View Full Version : Will you miss Shrub?
InsaneApache
10-31-2008, 11:29
Less than a week to go before the US elections and I'm curious to see what the posters think of dubya now that he's on the home run.
I'll miss him if only for the comedy value. The things he says are hilarious.
"Rarely is the question asked, is our children learning?"
"I know how hard it is to put food on your family."
"Amigo, amigo!" calling out to the Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi.
"The problem with the French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur."
So guys, will you miss him?
Kekvit Irae
10-31-2008, 12:10
Considering he sent 4000 of our boys to their deaths, no.
LittleGrizzly
10-31-2008, 12:19
"I know how hard it is to put food on your family."
:laugh:
had a wicked mental image of bush chasing his wife and daughters around trying to put food on them...
I remember back in '04 quite a few impressonists were saying they going to lose a source of great material if he loses, also i suppose his politics gave me something to question something to disagree with, but all in all no, ill be glad to see the back of him...
If somehow Palin ends up in the oval office then I will surely miss Dubya.
Hooahguy
10-31-2008, 12:59
Considering he sent 4000 of our boys to their deaths, no.
so do you also hate johnson for sending 58,000+ of our boys to thier deaths in 'nam?
idk if ill miss GWB. depends if obama becomes prez. then i will miss him.
Louis VI the Fat
10-31-2008, 13:03
Bush legacy:
The Bad: a legacyof of lies and incompetence.
The Good: the incompetence of his administrations extend to his being usually incapable of following through his more insidious, sinister schemes.
~~~+~+~+~~ ><~><~>< ~~~+~+~+~~~
From today's Gruniad (Dubya's reign is nearly over. What impact did he have on the artistic life of his country? Twelve prominent Americans give their verdict):
Dubya's reign is nearly over. What impact did he have on the artistic life of his country? Twelve prominent Americans give their verdict.
Incompetence:
Enron, Afghanistan, Iraq, New Orleans, Wall Street. An untenable drug war. A non-existent energy policy. An obliviousness to climate change. An unwillingness to recognise our problems, much less begin the hard work of solving them. Incompetence - rank incompetence - has become the American standard. We are no longer a competent, responsible nation-state. America. The can't-do superpower. Quite a legacy. Mr Bush is a remarkable man.
Bush' cultural legacy: mistrust of intellect, pride in being a-cultured. America has gone from the homo universalis ideal as embodied by the likes of towering figures like Jefferson and Franklin, to a president who takes actual public pride in being a-cultured. Who's cultivated non-intellectual image is in fact his greatest selling point: 'he's a great guy to have a beer with at a barbeque'.
How can you even begin to speak of a cultural legacy? It's been wholly negative. Culture's a dirty word to these people, like "liberal" or "literate". We've experienced a complete bankruptcy of the culture of ideas over the past eight years. The intellect has been denigrated. Deep cuts have been made in education and in investment in cultural institutions.
At Ground Zero, we're not sure if the performing arts centre planned will ever happen. This was a key part of the masterplan, but all that's mattered in the World of Bush is the workings, and failures, of the market economy. So, Ground Zero could yet end up, unless we get a sympathetic new president, as a purely commercial venture, with a memorial, rather than as a springboard for American culture.
It's hard to believe Bush, a man who's proud not to read books and who makes fun of words longer than one syllable, has been the inheritor of the mantle of the Founding Fathers, or of Woodrow Wilson, FDR or even Bill Clinton. These people believed in the value of American culture being seen as an inspiring and civilising force around the world. Jefferson was a fine architect. All Bush has offered the world is military force. This is still a great country, but Bush and Cheney have ensured that only the negative side of US culture has spread around the world.
Art, though, ought to thrive under adverse circumstances. Alas, this seems not to have been the case in America during the Bush years. Criticism levelled at Bush must extend to his adversaries as well. The cultural world is almost uninimously oppossed to Bush. But what have we seen other than partisan bitterness, preaching before the choir, incoherent indignation?
The cultural onslaught of 'Bush' America' has left the US a cultural wasteland, his opponents have been incapable of sustaining or developing a thriving counter-culture. America's favourite cultural export product at the moment is the Daily Show. Which, apart from the odd fine joke, I find rather boring, politically bland caricatural rather than razor-sharp satirical.
As Oliver Stone's film illustrates, W has been a great inspiration, a beacon on the hill, if you will, for artists in every field. Although perhaps not the kind of inspiration that the president would have wished.
Among many other works, Michael Moore's mocking Fahrenheit 9/11, Ian McEwan's Saturday, Brian Haw's Iraq-protest-turned-Turner-prize-winner-turned-West-End-play (The State We're In), and David Hare's Stuff Happens all have a notoriously incompetent American president to thank for their success. Bush's inability to put a sentence together without repeating the same word five times and chronic mispronunciation "nucular" have provided a feast for comics all over the world.
So the Bush years have been great for the arts, restoring a collusive, adversarial climate last seen circa 1968. Hate figures are far more motivating than heroes, and W has graciously provided the collectively leftwing artistic community an embarrassment of riches. In fact, the biggest problem with the Bush era's artistic legacy is that this widely despised president has tended to inspire polemics and agitprop. Many novels, films, plays, and artworks from the last eight years have been spitting with indignation, painfully obvious in their political intent, sledgehammer subtle in their execution, and clubby - since most of these works are preaching to the converted. Thus W may have bequeathed a whack of subject matter, but whether any of this stuff will be of enduring value is open to question. You have to ask yourself whether the diatribes denouncing Bush in a novel, such as JM Coetzee's Diary of a Bad Year (a book trying enough when it was published in 2007), will hold the faintest interest after January 2009.
Gregoshi
10-31-2008, 14:00
No. And I won't miss the word "vigilant" either.
No. Wait, allow me to amend that: Hell no.
Seamus Fermanagh
10-31-2008, 14:10
It will be impossible to "miss" him. As a GOP supporter, I will be enjoying the results of his efforts for years to come.
Not really, and thanks for the quotes, hadn't seen them before and had a great laugh. :laugh4:
[QUOTE=InsaneApache;2051105]"The problem with the French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur."
oh no :laugh4:
woad&fangs
10-31-2008, 15:14
The only thing I liked about him was his comedy value. Luckily, Biden is on the Dem ticket.
So no, I will not miss him at all.:brood:
Hooahguy
10-31-2008, 15:15
o ya, biden will be a laugh riot!
biden- "karl marx never said that!"
hannity- (plays soundbyte of marx saying it)
biden- "oh"
yesdachi
10-31-2008, 15:18
no.
I do hope that he is a good ex-president. Carter was one of the worst Presidents but he has been a good ex-president. Maybe W will find a nice charity to support and go away from politics quietly. I just hope he doesn’t get fat and talk about global warming all the time.
The only thing I liked about him was his comedy value. Luckily, Biden is on the Dem ticket.
So no, I will not miss him at all.:brood:I'm so thankful for Biden. This election cycle would be so dull without him. :2thumbsup:
I'll be glad that Bush is out of office, yet I may wish we had him back in comparison to what may be coming. :sweatdrop: Although, after 8yrs of watered down 'big government', we may as well let Obama take a crack at bringing us the full blown version. :shrug:
Yoyoma1910
10-31-2008, 15:56
I'm so thankful for Biden. This election cycle would be so dull without him. :2thumbsup:
He's alright, but he's no Mike Gravel.
Kekvit Irae
10-31-2008, 17:01
so do you also hate johnson for sending 58,000+ of our boys to thier deaths in 'nam?
I was born five years after Vietnam ended, so I don't really have an opinion of him.
seireikhaan
10-31-2008, 22:28
Don't worry Apache, just listen to Biden go...and go... and go... he'll say something moronic eventually.
And NO, I will NOT miss him at all.
CountArach
10-31-2008, 22:31
Considering he sent 4000 of our boys to their deaths, no.
Not to mention the almost 100 000 (http://www.iraqbodycount.org/) reported Iraqi civilian deaths...
I don't see how anyone could honestly miss this man.
No. No, I will not miss W. At all. Any comedic value he may provide is completely and utterly outweighed by his seeming determination to single-handedly destroy my nation.
Koga No Goshi
10-31-2008, 23:32
The Bush Administration is not just incompetent. It is, as progressive radio says, an incompetence souffle. The culinary crowning glory of incompetence.
So, no.
Guildenstern
11-01-2008, 00:25
No, I won't. I think Bush is just a puppet in the hands of his handlers who are scrambling to get stuff happening. Iraq? Afghanistan? Whereistan? An incompetent, ruled by greed oriented overseers.
Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-01-2008, 06:11
These last eight years have been a laugh riot. So much good comedy came out of that Presidency.
Alexander the Pretty Good
11-01-2008, 06:24
Who?
CountArach
11-01-2008, 07:32
Who?
The still-President... or something?
No.
Loved the tax cuts, the initial campaign in Afghanistan, Supreme court appointees (yes, I'm pro-choice but conservative with respect to other judicial issues), school vouchers and uh... that's about it.
Alexander the Pretty Good
11-01-2008, 09:51
The still-President... or something?
Really? Doesn't ring a bell...
/:clown:
InsaneApache
11-01-2008, 12:39
Your thinking of Quasimodo. :clown:
LittleGrizzly
11-01-2008, 12:48
Something similar happened with Tony Blair, i hated the man in office (or really didn't like him after Iraq to be precise) and then when it comes down to it and they're leaving office my opinion tends to mellow, i think back to bush's record contribution to aids in Africa, him and blairs misguided democracy wars, and i start to think maybe he was just not the brightest guy trying to do the right thing, maybe he had some bad advisors around him and he had been around the politics of the rich (mutual backscratching) maybe he thought those riches going to those few companies was going to be best for america.... somehow...
When it comes to reflection my anger tends to mellow out quickly and im just left with a nice guy who tried to do the right thing but had terrible people around him and an unworkable ideaology to base it all on... though i still can't believe the guy got a second term...
CountArach
11-01-2008, 12:56
When it comes to reflection my anger tends to mellow out quickly and im just left with a nice guy who tried to do the right thing but had terrible people around him and an unworkable ideaology to base it all on... though i still can't believe the guy got a second term...
Being a nice guy personally shouldn't hide the fact that he repeatedly violated International law and has proven more of a threat to global security than just about anyone in recent history. Also, this quote ignores the fact that he put these terrible people in their positions and he could have replaced them at his whim.
Pannonian
11-01-2008, 13:09
In case anyone's missed the genius answer Don gave in the History Quiz.
Yay! I was sure my first answer was going to be right as well. Anyway...
I was seen as a republican by some, a tyrant by others. I led my armies in a brutal religious war, and achieved many great victories. But in the end my state would crumble under my less able son. Who am I?
Intended answer: Oliver Cromwell.
George Herbert Walker Bush. :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
LittleGrizzly
11-01-2008, 13:13
Being a nice guy personally shouldn't hide the fact that he repeatedly violated International law and has proven more of a threat to global security than just about anyone in recent history. Also, this quote ignores the fact that he put these terrible people in their positions and he could have replaced them at his whim.
Well, not that i want an argument on bush's intelligence but he either really didn't know what was doing or just really wasn't intrested, i get the feeling with Bush that he just naturally went towards politics after few less than successful business ventures, i think the only thing he really was intrested in when it came to poilitcs was stamping his christian morals onto america and tax cuts for the rich, beyond that he had his advisors and the republican party at large around him and he just kind of went along with it...
He could have replaced these people at any time but these people are respected in thier own circles, and with bush (imo) having so very little interest why would he doubt the word of these 'experts' ?
Im not saying i will miss the man, and i don't think im quite saying i forgive him, but i think i can understand why he did what he did over the last 8 years...
Basically i think bush was too dull or unintrested in politics (i suppose this is deserving of blame and scorn in a way) and was heavily influenced by those around him, which seemed to be a mix of idealogical similars and the good ol' boys club
Don :laugh: :laugh:
CountArach
11-01-2008, 13:37
Basically i think bush was too dull or unintrested in politics (i suppose this is deserving of blame and scorn in a way) and was heavily influenced by those around him, which seemed to be a mix of idealogical similars and the good ol' boys club
Yup. The most powerful man in the World can't be disinterested in his job.
LMAO @ Don
InsaneApache
11-01-2008, 13:39
@ Pannonian
Now that's funny. :laugh4:
KukriKhan
11-01-2008, 14:04
I think he aspired to be Reagan II, without ever really understanding Ronnie's strengths or appeal. Instead he moved from one "We never saw that coming" blundering moment to the next, until a whole string of "We never saw THAT coming" moments had him, and us, permanently on defense, operating out of fear of the next big boo-boo, which was just around the corner.
I'm sick and tired of cringing, and I think my fellows Americans are too.
I do hope I live long enough to see the History Channel special showing what was really going on in the 2001-2009 White House.
Won't miss him.
p.s. If some idiot makes him Commissioner of Baseball, which he half-jokingly said was his real career goal, that should put the final nail into that national pastime. I can see it now:
-Pre-emptive batting: batter swings before the ball is pitched; umpire rules that the bat moved correctly through the strike zone, and it's irrelevant where the ball actually went; batter awarded a double, for effort.
-No Runner Left Behind: as long as he scores well on the pre-game sprint testing, every runner is automatically "safe".
-Out-sourced, cut-back umpiring: Ya just need the 1 ump at home plate anyway, and you can get an Indian Cricket referee for a third the wage & no bene's. Disputed call? Offer viewer call-ins ala American Idol for a small fee to sort it out.
rory_20_uk
11-01-2008, 14:47
As a Brit, having an America that doesn't drag us into any wars would be great (yes, we have our own PM to partly blame for that: the last one never mentioned this facet of his persona in the manifesto, and the new one isn't even elected).
I prefer my slapstick comedy without a billion dollar surcharge.
~:smoking:
I prefer my slapstick comedy without a billion dollar surcharge.
That is *so* going into my sig. :laugh4:
rory_20_uk
11-01-2008, 18:16
That is *so* going into my sig. :laugh4:
Best... moment... ever!!! ~:cheers: :cheerleader: :dancing:
~:smoking:
Hosakawa Tito
11-01-2008, 19:52
Miss him like a bout of hemorrhoids, but then, whoever coined the phrase "familiarity breeds contempt" was on the money when applying it to most any political figure.
Gregoshi
11-01-2008, 20:07
Miss him like a bout of hemorrhoids...
Where is "Preparation W" when you need it?
InsaneApache
11-01-2008, 23:14
In the best tradition of British pantomime..."It's behind you!" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantomime)
Kekvit Irae
11-02-2008, 04:28
Well, look at it this way: If there was no Dubya, we would have never had someone to place blame on such great jokes as "What's the difference between the Taliban and British soldiers? Don't know? Neither does the US Air Force."
We also wouldn't have put pretzels on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted List for attempted assassination. :tongueg:
AlexanderSextus
11-02-2008, 05:58
Well, look at it this way: If there was no Dubya, we would have never had someone to place blame on such great jokes as "What's the difference between the Taliban and British soldiers? Don't know? Neither does the US Air Force."
OOOOOOOOOH :no: :shame: :sweatdrop:
That one hurt.
Proletariat
11-02-2008, 06:24
Well, look at it this way: If there was no Dubya, we would have never had someone to place blame on such great jokes as "What's the difference between the Taliban and British soldiers? Don't know? Neither does the US Air Force."
What the hell? This joke isn't funny number one, and secondly has nothing to do with Shrub.
:dizzy2:
I will not miss him.
However, I did enjoy his mess ups and pretty funny attitude, towards issues and jokes about him (See the White House Dinner).
I wish the man a very peaceful, satisfying and overall good life after his presidency.
What the hell? This joke isn't funny number one, and secondly has nothing to do with Shrub.
:dizzy2:
I thought it was hilarious. And the war started in 2001, Bush was elected in 2000.
Evil_Maniac From Mars
11-02-2008, 06:46
He may not have been the best President, but he is certainly a good person.
Proletariat
11-02-2008, 07:01
I thought it was hilarious.
Not surprising.
And the war started in 2001, Bush was elected in 2000.
Blue on blue tragedies aren't a phenomenon that began in 2000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendly_fire#Operation_Desert_Storm
I thought it was hilarious.
Not hilarious, but I smiled, that should do.
Not surprising.
Personal attack = ban.
Not surprising.
Do I smell a hint of personal attack?
Banquo's Ghost
11-02-2008, 20:15
Back on topic, please. :beadyeyes2:
PanzerJaeger
11-02-2008, 21:39
Compared to what's coming, I will definitely miss him (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/01/AR2008110100850_pf.html).
Compared to what's coming, I will definitely miss him (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/01/AR2008110100850_pf.html).
Oh PJ, is the big bad Commie boogeyman coming to get you? QUICK TO GERMANY!
Strike For The South
11-02-2008, 23:36
Misguided? yes. but a man who didnt compromise himself for others and thats something I can respect.
Strike For The South
11-02-2008, 23:37
Oh PJ, is the big bad Commie boogeyman coming to get you? QUICK TO GERMANY!
Personal attack = ban....
...
Oh, sorry,
"Yes PJ, I agree, Obama is going to ruin the nation. Hail Xenu!"
Strike For The South
11-03-2008, 00:12
Oh, sorry,
"Yes PJ, I agree, Obama is going to ruin the nation. Hail Xenu!"
better but I want more sincerity. :clown:
better but I want more Thetans. :clown:
Fixed :2thumbsup:
HoreTore
11-03-2008, 06:37
o ya, biden will be a laugh riot!
biden- "karl marx never said that!"
hannity- (plays soundbyte of marx saying it)
biden- "oh"
That was actually very funny, but unfortunately not in the way you tried ~;)
CountArach
11-03-2008, 07:39
no.
I do hope that he is a good ex-president. Carter was one of the worst Presidents but he has been a good ex-president. Maybe W will find a nice charity to support and go away from politics quietly. I just hope he doesn’t get fat and talk about global warming all the time.
I can't help but feel he will find himself on a board of directors for an oil company. Again.
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