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Askthepizzaguy
12-15-2008, 02:53
When I have something important to say, I uncheck my signature line so you read what I have to say.
When I don't feel like it, the sig stays. Back to topic.
CountArach
12-15-2008, 04:19
CountArach-
One problem.The mafia could sacrifice one of their own to this "investigator" and then we trust him.
True. I hadn't considered that.
Askthepizzaguy
12-15-2008, 04:21
It's quite all right. Just remember that most everything that comes our way from these letters is bogus.
We may consider their meaning, but always with real skepticism.
Beefy187
12-15-2008, 13:27
Aries: 4 (Chaotix, Andres, CA, Aries)
Chaotix27: 1 (Reenk Roink)
CA: 1 (YLC)
Clocks ticking for Sarathos and Bladeceath
Soon as I wake up ill finish this phase
Soon as I wake up ill finish this phase
You made this post while sleeping?
:inquisitive:
Ok, what is Aries trying to do? Seems like a crazy, crazy approach to this game!
I have a bad gut feeling about Andres. He's sneaky.
So, Vote: Andres.
I guess cross-gaming is an unavoidable affect of playing with the same people all the time. sigh. Makes catching up on this thread after a weekend without too much internet time twice as confusing though.
I have no sense of anyone having incriminated themselves:dizzy2:. White Eyes' posts since his death have been thoroughly confusing - I'd be tempted to vote for him if he was still alive just for befuddling me with talk of secret townie groups and subsequent nonsensical intimations:laugh4:.
From a pure 'poker face' intuition I found CA's posting before night 1 very mildly suspicious, but that was just his assumption that a reader should assume his innocence. It certainly wasn't enough to hang him by, but as it looks as if Aries is doomed to be lynched unless the situation evens up, and so I shall vote: Count Arach - to see if anyone changes vote, or adds their vote.
Aries: 4 (Chaotix, Andres, CA, Aries)
Chaotix27: 1 (Reenk Roink)
CA: 2 (YLC, Boudica)
Andres: 1 (Rythmic)
Beefy187
12-15-2008, 14:00
You made this post while sleeping?
:inquisitive:
Yes I used my psycho power to type while I sleep....
Nah. I enjoy sleep. When I sleep, I try not to think about anything... Although I occasionally wake up with Zombie apocalypses scenario or Battle Royale scenario...
Im about to head of to sleep. Im on GMT+ 9 according to LEN just for the reference
Ok, what is Aries trying to do? Seems like a crazy, crazy approach to this game!
I have a bad gut feeling about Andres. He's sneaky.
So, Vote: Andres.
Rythmic, is it just me, or is your post...almost Aries like in it's nature? Like It's actually attempting, putting it's whole life on the line, giving it everything it's got, to not make sense? In a very Dr.Seuss, forgot your medication, ADHD kid with 20 pounds of sugar and a six pack of energy drinks who just-had-the-adrenaline-rush-of-his-life kind of way. That's not you, so far as I can tell....
HoS: Rythmic
Yes I used my psycho power to type while I sleep....
Nah. I enjoy sleep. When I sleep, I try not to think about anything... Although I occasionally wake up with Zombie apocalypses scenario or Battle Royale scenario...
Im about to head of to sleep. Im on GMT+ 9 according to LEN just for the reference
I hope I didn't influence that in anyway :smartass2:
unvote: me
vote: CA
:shrug:
i believe andres was suspicious, if reenk roink changes his vote to him, i will change my vote, as im only voting like this so we can all avoid a lynch, again.....
Quintus.JC
12-15-2008, 19:38
I am having my suspcisions on CountArch. Aries is also behaving scummy, first he votes for himself and askes to be lynched, now he sees a chance of survival and places his vote on CountArch, despite self-preservation coming to mind that is still scummy behaivor.
FoS: CountArch and Aries
I am having my suspcisions on CountArch. Aries is also behaving scummy, first he votes for himself and askes to be lynched, now he sees a chance of survival and places his vote on CountArch, despite self-preservation coming to mind that is still scummy behaivor.
FoS: CountArch and Aries
well duh, im happy to kill myself, but im not gonna complain if i can survive :yes:
if we can all survive for that matter, see it as a OMGUS vote, he voted for me so meh im entitled regardless
Quintus.JC
12-15-2008, 20:23
well duh, im happy to kill myself, but im not gonna complain if i can survive :yes:
if we can all survive for that matter, see it as a OMGUS vote, he voted for me so meh im entitled regardless
To me self-preservation is a valid reason. I know alot of people says that as townie they should be happy to die and shouldn't complain about getting lynched as its in the town's best interests. But personally I say whether town or mafia, every player want to surive till the last day. Voting CountArch is in your best interest since he's got the second most votes to you, but lets forget OMGUS vote, self-preservation is as good as any reason in the early stages and a much better reason then a OMGUS vote.
Quintus.JC
12-15-2008, 20:27
well duh, im happy to kill myself, but im not gonna complain if i can survive :yes:
I understand that statement perfectly, but its one of your above votes that attracted my attention.
i've done this is previous games.......... but just to show i'm not looking for sympathy
lynch me im mafia*
there :bow: (though i do think its pathetic how non contributors avoid suspicion day in day out!
*size 7 writing should be ignored
About posting this earlier than trying to safe yourself like this, this was the scummy behaivor I was talking about.
Reenk Roink
12-15-2008, 21:47
unvote: me
vote: CA
:shrug:
i believe andres was suspicious, if reenk roink changes his vote to him, i will change my vote, as im only voting like this so we can all avoid a lynch, again.....
I believe Andres is very suspicious. However, I'd rather avoid a lynch right now as well (unless Andres was going to be lynched where then I would be for lynching him :bow:).
I personally believe that if someone says that they're mafia, no matter how jokingly they say it it's still grounds for a lynch. That was very scummy for Aries to do.
But anyway, I think our first priority is getting the lurkers to vote and post. We could really use any kind of help at this point.
CountArach
12-15-2008, 22:25
Can those voting for me explain why they are voting for me so that I might have something to respond to?
I think there shouldn't be even any suspicions against White Eyes, since he was the first killed. Any orders (if he can make one) would have been canceled. Having 3 (?!) murders should indicate that all(?) killers had acted.
Vote: Andres
Sarathos
12-16-2008, 00:02
Vote:CA
Seems to be the way to go...
CountArach
12-16-2008, 00:37
Vote:CA
Seems to be the way to go...
Errrr.... would you care to elaborate on that?
White_eyes:D
12-16-2008, 01:36
Errrr.... would you care to elaborate on that?
I guess it had something to do with how you pointed a FoS against me last round and when I helped tie it up......:laugh4:
i could leave CA out in the lurch but i'm going to be respectful for once :bow:
unvote: CA
vote: Andres
and through some of my weaker posts i believe my arugments against andres were clear, the fact that he tells us to role block others gets attention from himself, as he knows being blocked will mean no kill for him, furthermore i've never seen him play like this, people have said he used to, but from my experience, this is a first, so overall i think my reasons are valid, oh and about all this not wanting to/wanting to be lynch, i'm basically trying anything to prove my innocence, unfortunately my techniques are appalling :wall:
Beefy187
12-16-2008, 02:52
boudica... I think your gorgeous.. Just look at those scums who doesn't keep up the tally.. Thanks heaps :2thumbsup:
Aries: 3 (Chaotix, Andres, CA, )
Chaotix27: 1 (Reenk Roink)
CA: 3 (YLC, Boudica, Sarathos)
Andres: 3 (Rythmic, Andres, Aries)
Sarathos is saved from WoG.
We have a three way tie. Ill wait for 1 hours till the tie breaks
:sweatdrop: 2nd time lucky for me perhaps, i can just see a lurker steping in and randomly voting for me now....
Hmm... my vote will stay on Aries for now. Although I'm getting a scummy sort of vibe from CA, I'm also getting a really scummy vibe from Aries... as in, I've never seen him fight so hard to save his own skin. Self-preservation is one thing, but the franticness in Aries' recent demeanor suggests something more.
Also, notice how he tied it up right before the write-up. He would have been safe from lynch, but now it seems he wants to protect CA as well.
Hmm... my vote will stay on Aries for now. Although I'm getting a scummy sort of vibe from CA, I'm also getting a really scummy vibe from Aries... as in, I've never seen him fight so hard to save his own skin. Self-preservation is one thing, but the franticness in Aries' recent demeanor suggests something more.
Also, notice how he tied it up right before the write-up. He would have been safe from lynch, but now it seems he wants to protect CA as well.
no, i said that i thought andres was guilty but voted for CA for self preservation, i will happyily change my vote back to CA if andres convinces me he's innocent....
Beefy187
12-16-2008, 03:07
Tick tick tick... Another no lynch rounds approaching :clown:
if choatix believes me or CA are mafia (which i can say hand on heart i'm not) then vote for CA, at least they'll be a lynch, if you don't want to then fine, suits me fine too
TevashSzat
12-16-2008, 03:11
I guess I'll try to break the tie then. I will vote: Aries because he just wants to live wayyyyy too much for it to be normal.
Aries: 4 (Chaotix, Andres, CA, Tevash)
Chaotix27: 1 (Reenk Roink)
CA: 3 (YLC, Boudica, Sarathos)
Andres: 3 (Rythmic, Andres, Aries)
unvote andres
vote CA
:clown:
Aries: 4 (Chaotix, Andres, CA, Tevash)
Chaotix27: 1 (Reenk Roink)
CA: 4 (YLC, Boudica, Sarathos, aries)
Andres: 2 (Rythmic, Andres, )
Proper tally:
Aries: 4 (Chaotix, Andres, CA, Tevash)
CA: 4 (YLC, Boudica, Sarathos, Aries)
Andres: 2 (Rythmic, glyphz )
Chaotix27: 1 (Reenk Roink)
TS put andres in twice? wishful thinking aye? if i dont make it through tonight and you find im innocent, lynch andres and Tevash please :juggle2:
Well, that was an even dirtier trick to play there, Aries... I wonder if our extra hour was just a single tiebreaker round, or if it was to be used for a whole slew of vote manipulation....
Not lynching anyone is a bad idea. Unvote: Aries, Vote: CA.
You die tomorrow, Aries. You yourself have ensured it.
Reenk Roink
12-16-2008, 04:41
boudica... I think your gorgeous.. Just look at those scums who doesn't keep up the tally.. Thanks heaps :2thumbsup:
I also kept the tally! And the tracker! Aren't I gorgeous too? ~:flirt:
Anyway:
Unvote: Chaotix27
Vote: Aries
Not lynching someone is a great idea.
Aries: 4 (Andres, CA, Tevash, Reenk Roink)
CA: 5 (YLC, Boudica, Sarathos, Aries, Chaotix)
Andres: 2 (Rythmic, glyphz )
Somebody (not voting for CA) vote Aries now!
Beefy187
12-16-2008, 05:22
I also kept the tally! And the tracker! Aren't I gorgeous too? ~:flirt:
Anyway:
Unvote: Chaotix27
Vote: Aries
Not lynching someone is a great idea.
Aries: 4 (Andres, CA, Tevash, Reenk Roink)
CA: 5 (YLC, Boudica, Sarathos, Aries, Chaotix)
Andres: 2 (Rythmic, glyphz )
Somebody (not voting for CA) vote Aries now!
:no:
Your sexy ~:flirt:
I think Aries is a much better lynch candidate then CA.
Also, Reenk Roink, you're not giving much of a reason for voting me.
I believe Andres is very suspicious.
Explain. A vote without proper explanation smells scummy and leads to bandwagoning.
I think there shouldn't be even any suspicions against White Eyes, since he was the first killed. Any orders (if he can make one) would have been canceled. Having 3 (?!) murders should indicate that all(?) killers had acted.
That is simply not true. If you have three mafia families, then it's perfectly possible for one family to kill members of the other family; also, mafia A targeting mafia B does not automatically mean B's kill of that night will be cancelled.
If Beefy uses a "real time" system, like GH does since Mafia VI, then B's kill would still go through, if B got his orders in earlier then A.
There are also plenty of hosts who, in case of mafia A targetting mafia B, would allow the kill of mafia B, no matter what. I'm such a host myself.
When you have more then one mafia family in a game, getting killed by night is not = confirmed innocent.
CountArach
12-16-2008, 10:08
No one has provided a reason for me to be lynched yet...
No one has provided a reason for me to be lynched yet...
Hey CA,
AT the point I voted for you, Aries had 4 votes and you, Andres and Chaotix27 had 1 each. I wanted to see how/if people changed their voting if there was another possible 'runner' for lynching. I picked you, as i said at the time, not because I had any conclusive evidence, but purely from intuition/poker face/whatever based on your aggressive work before night 1. The way you were pursuing people as if your innocence was beyond question - and the fact that you changed your vote twice to either tie up the vote/protect Aries is specifically why i picked you instead of Andres or Chaotix27. And look what happened: The voting has gone crazy since then. I don't have any 'evidence' - I don't see how anyone can, but I wouldn't be suprised that if you were lynched we wouldn't be getting 3 murders a night any more :)
CountArach
12-16-2008, 11:51
So you believe that, despite all the evidence against Aries, I am a worthy lynch candidate simply based on a hunch?
I picked you, as i said at the time, not because I had any conclusive evidence, but purely from intuition/poker face/whatever based on your aggressive work before night 1.
That is how discussion is sparked and that is what gives us evidence to use against people at a future date. I have played like this in all my recent games.
The way you were pursuing people as if your innocence was beyond question - and the fact that you changed your vote twice to either tie up the vote/protect Aries is specifically why i picked you instead of Andres or Chaotix27.
Two things:
1) Accusing me of defending Aries is a little strange seeing as I am currently voting for him.
2) You still choose to ignore the evidence against Aries - I can understand that he might be your scumbuddy, but I can't see any other possible reasoning.
And look what happened: The voting has gone crazy since then.
Which is just more discussion and hence more evidence. The town rarely has anything more to go by other than posting and voting habits.
I don't have any 'evidence' - I don't see how anyone can
If you check the last few pages you will see the case against Aries. That is how people can get evidence.
well - lots of beef for thought. Now I'm really confused:embarassed:
CountArach
12-16-2008, 13:19
well - lots of beef for thought. Now I'm really confused:embarassed:
If you unvote to tie the vote up that would give you time to mull it over.
I agree. As I said, my motive for voting for you was to see if/how it changed things - not because i think you are necessarily guilty - unfortunately so much changed I'm not at all sure how I should process it yet, so:
unvote CA
vote: abstain
Aries: 4 (Andres, CA, Tevash, Reenk Roink)
CA: 4 (YLC, Sarathos, Aries, Chaotix)
Andres: 2 (Rythmic, glyphz )
Abstain: Boudica
Despite the fact OMGIS vote, there was that letter that you claimed not to write, with confused me alot, it said beef organization leader so wouldn't that of been a good thing? or maybe it was just made up? anyway i've had a case too, the case against me merely preys on my self-preservation and attention seeking antics, which to me don't indicate i'm guilty at all, it's as if townie isn't even associable with me anymore and you call me mafia regardless, when your on no basis to make such false assumptions, so if you want a question answered about my behavior, go ahead and ask, i'm willing to answer :bow:
if i was mafia i would never bring this much attention to myself, i'm not that dim-witted, this whole interigation sparked because i voted for tevash who claimed to be god, truly an insult to the kingdom of beef, throughout the same people choose to go against me, rather annoying that they don't give me a chance, and decide to criticize me rather than ask me constructive questions
Yoyoma1910
12-16-2008, 18:48
:drama3:
Dun dun dun
:clown:
well if your going to undermine my posts at least put some effort into it :clown:
CountArach
12-16-2008, 22:17
Despite the fact OMGIS vote, there was that letter that you claimed not to write, with confused me alot, it said beef organization leader so wouldn't that of been a good thing? or maybe it was just made up?
That post claimed that everyone should follow me and that I have evidence. I did not have evidence and as such it would have been a bad thing for me to claim. I would have been intentionally misleading the town. It was certainly written by someone else (I never put a space between CountArach).
anyway i've had a case too, the case against me merely preys on my self-preservation and attention seeking antics, which to me don't indicate i'm guilty at all, it's as if townie isn't even associable with me anymore and you call me mafia regardless, when your on no basis to make such false assumptions, so if you want a question answered about my behavior, go ahead and ask, i'm willing to answer :bow:
There have been several questions answered and several posts that you simply have not address, especially Andres'. Your only responses to any posts have been to say "CA is more guilty - lynch him".
if i was mafia i would never bring this much attention to myself, i'm not that dim-witted, this whole interigation sparked because i voted for tevash who claimed to be god, truly an insult to the kingdom of beef, throughout the same people choose to go against me, rather annoying that they don't give me a chance, and decide to criticize me rather than ask me constructive questions
Two things:
1) You could just be drawing attention to yourself so that we will think that you would be innocent, whereas you are in fact guilty. That is no proof and is a clear WIFOM situation.
2) If you simply address our criticisms point-by-point then there is no case you against you.
Voting yourself is usually seen as scummy behaviour.
Also the "oh well, I'm just a townie, lynch me if you must" attitude is not very convincing at this stage of the current round. Add to that the fact that you did all you could to save your own skin so far.
recent post from andres no question asked there, but simply affirming something, instead of discussing it
I think Aries is a much better lynch candidate then CA.
again not a question, yet he doesn't even explain himself here
I suggest the role blocker blocks either Aries or Reenk Roink. Both are behaving suspicious.
a question? no, an explanation? no reenk roink isnt the only who doesnt explain himself, these are full quotes im taking, his explanations are pitiful
No lynch rounds don't get us anywhere. We won't get mafia if we don't lynch and at this pace, the town needs to take every opportunity it has to take out mafiosi.
Unvote : Reenk Roink;
Vote : Aries
Aries: 2 (Chaotix, Andres)
Andres: 1 (Aries)
Chaotix27: 1 (Reenk Roink)
CA: 1 (YLC)
And I suggest the role blocker to block Reenk Roink next night.
I heard rumours about the townie group not really being a townie group, but an attempt at fooling the mafia.
Or maybe the townie group really was a townie group and the mafia did get lucky...
Chew on that, mafiosi. You're not the only ones who can play mind games :smash:
White Eyes is no longer on my possible scum list at the moment.
EDIT: missed ATPG's post; White Eyes back on possible scum list.
he changes his vote to me without reason other than we need to get rid of mafia, which to be honest, you have no reason to believe
rumours of the townie group not being innocent, explain! god almighty
i thought he was contributing highly to avoid suspicion, but after reading his only 4 posts in the last 100 ive looked at, his sole contribuation arent helpful and more importantly, ask me NO questions
so CA where on earth are those questions you lied about asking? :furious3:
There aren't any from him, the only reason i can see me being interrogated more perhaps is because i have a more unique playing style and Andres is a mod, something along those lines at my bidding, i'm convinced andres is mafia, and i've never been convinced like this is any game before, which is why i'm showing it so much attention
jeez i play an active role and get 4 votes against me, yet some that have barely posted get none :wall:
Askthepizzaguy
12-17-2008, 00:52
Quick question; do you guys want my active participation or would you like to keep it simple.
jeez i play an active role and get 4 votes against me, yet some that have barely posted get none :wall:
Tough love. ~:flirt:
Quick question; do you guys want my active participation or would you like to keep it simple.
depending on whether you slate me or not, i would be happy to hear from you :yes:
Tough love. ~:flirt:
tough hide to, my head hurts after hitting it against that wall :wall:
Beefy187
12-17-2008, 01:31
Sorry guys. I had a random family trip thing. So I didn't have chance to update this yesterday.
Once again the council had a heated discussion. At one stage CA, Aries and Andres was tied on the same amount of vote. However when night came, the council decided that no one will be jailed tonight.
"Decent folks of this town.. Have a good rest. Lock your downs. And god bless. As for you scums out there.... You be very careful when you walk out today... Coz our folks can be nasty... Very nasty..."
"Sir! Bladeceath has deceased. He couldn't bear the smell of the foreign meat and commited Sepuku!!"
"Bladeceath. We will miss him....Dearly..."
Aries: 4 (Andres, CA, Tevash, Reenk Roink)
CA: 4 (YLC, Sarathos, Aries, Chaotix)
Andres: 2 (Rythmic, glyphz )
Alive players 12/16
Glyphz
Andres
Aries
Sarathos
Reenk Roink
QJC
Rythmic
Seireikhaan
Chaotix
CA
boudica
YLC (Came back from WoG)
Killed 3/16
White_Eyes (Porked day 1)
Yoyoma (Lambed day 1)
ATPG (Chickened day 1)
Lynched (jailed) 0/16
WoGged 1/16
Bladeceath
This is not good. There are three maf on the loose, and we haven't had an effective lynch yet. Damn.
This is not good. There are three maf on the loose, and we haven't had an effective lynch yet. Damn.
Reenk Roink changed his vote to me to even it out, he didn't want a lynch
and i assume meat mafia are going to keep me alive, like i wasn't already prime suspect through my efforts for town
Alright then. Now that you presumably have no way out unless you pull another change-vote-trick, you are dead, Aries.
Unvote: CA
Vote: Aries
New Tally
Aries: 5 (Andres, CA, Tevash, Reenk Roink, Chaotix)
CA: 3 (YLC, Sarathos, Aries,)
Andres: 2 (Rythmic, glyphz )
Abstain: Boudica
Goodbye. Have a nice stay at the Beeftown jailhouse!
Alright then. Now that you presumably have no way out unless you pull another change-vote-trick, you are dead, Aries.
Unvote: CA
Vote: Aries
New Tally
Aries: 5 (Andres, CA, Tevash, Reenk Roink, Chaotix)
CA: 3 (YLC, Sarathos, Aries,)
Andres: 2 (Rythmic, glyphz )
Abstain: Boudica
Goodbye. Have a nice stay at the Beeftown jailhouse!
It would be night time Chaotix :bow:
Alright then. Now that you presumably have no way out unless you pull another change-vote-trick, you are dead, Aries.
Unvote: CA
Vote: Aries
New Tally
Aries: 5 (Andres, CA, Tevash, Reenk Roink, Chaotix)
CA: 3 (YLC, Sarathos, Aries,)
Andres: 2 (Rythmic, glyphz )
Abstain: Boudica
Goodbye. Have a nice stay at the Beeftown jailhouse!
i thought that was the end of day 2??? if so that is irrvelant
furthermore i've been slaving away making paragraphs and heaps of trials for town, just for you to not ask me questions or regard anything i say, well fine, mafia ftw, if you are townie, its not a townie i want to be sided with
if thats the case i suggest that choatix stop making a fool out of himself
oh and its ares so invalid vote anyway :tongue:
also choatix readpost 299 in detail and reply :smash: it's insulting how little your doing for a town win, unless your mafia that is
Oh. I seemed to have missed that fact. :blush:
For some reason I just thought Beefy was only popping in to WOG Bladeceath. S' about time this day ended, anyway.
Ah, well. We'll have to wait for tomorrow, Aries. :tongue:
Beefy187
12-17-2008, 10:44
Sorry, I should've made it more clearler. It is night time :bow:
Quick question; do you guys want my active participation or would you like to keep it simple.
Simple?:dizzy2:
I'd be interested to hear more from you ATPG. I don't think it'll help much, but for my own understanding I was interested to hear that you no longer trusted White Eyes after night one and I'd like to know why you would randomly trust someone in the first place if you had a role.
Oh. I seemed to have missed that fact. :blush:
For some reason I just thought Beefy was only popping in to WOG Bladeceath. S' about time this day ended, anyway.
Ah, well. We'll have to wait for tomorrow, Aries. :tongue:
i said answer my questions on post 299, i made the effort to type them, least you can do is reply :smash:
i'm convinced andres is mafia, and i've never been convinced like this is any game before, which is why i'm showing it so much attention
Ares - why?
Finally a question, i have provided my evidence above though too
1: Intially he tells players to role block others, rather than himself, suggesting he doesn't want his ability to be immobilized, perhaps his killing no?
2: He is behaving differently to usual, and is investiaging more, against his usual personality, he says he used to be like this a while ago, perhaps hes paying this thread attention because he has an important role, like mafia
3: He says hes asked me questions, when he hasn't, all hes doing is voting for people without strong reason, and he doesn't explain his theories
4: just a gut feeling, he hasn't been mafia in any game for a while, he's overdue the role, and i've just been mafia in Beefy's previous game, so not likely me in comparison
5: hes telling people how to vote instead of discussing it, suggesting he knows who the innocence are, and strives to protect his mafia friends
6: not answering the questions i put forward, almost turning into a lurker of late
the only other leads i've found is choatix siding with andres immensely, showing there connected, and ATPG is unusually quiet ....
Beefy187
12-18-2008, 01:07
night 2 summery
Aries was about to head off to night club when he heard a door knock.
"Whos there?"
"Hey Mr Aries. I'm the interviewer from The Watcher!! Do you have a minute?"
"Hmm I was about to head off but... Seeing as your that famous interviewer... Make me famous dude"
"Sure... Heres couple of questions for you..."
Aries was blocked tonight
.................................................................................................... ........................................
Chaotix was relaxing at his house when he heard his door creek open.
"What the?" he thought, taking out his shot gun. Three seconds... No one was there.
"Im here.." said the strange voice, grabbing Chaotix from the back. Chaotix immediately turned around and took a shot. After a brief wrestling, Chaotix emptied his shotgun, not hitting the attacker once.
"You are weak old man. Compared to I... Who trained in the way of chicken... dedicated this whole life to chicken... Now you die!"
"but I...."
"You have to curse your self for your weakness. You have to die to pay for your foolishness.."
"Curse you!!"
Chaotix is chickened
.................................................................................................... ..........................................
Man was searching Chaotix rubbish bin. He then heard a gun shot. When he looked inside the house, Chaotix was dead.
"First Pizza guy, now him..."
he cursed at him self.
.................................................................................................... ........................................
"Another man died yesterday... Mr Chaotix is believed to be murdered by a horrific killer, once again using a chemical weapon of "Chicken." Police are still investigating the killers.
Yesterday Beef town news received a video clip anonymously. Please watch the video clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6R-LZ25Te0
Towns council will once again meet in the hall, deciding who is likely to be responsible for the murders...."
Alive players 11/16
Glyphz
Andres
Aries
Sarathos
Reenk Roink
QJC
Rythmic
Seireikhaan
CA
boudica
YLC (Came back from WoG)
Killed 4/16
White_Eyes (Porked day 1)
Yoyoma (Lambed day 1)
ATPG (Chickened day 1)
Chaotix (Chickened day 2)
Lynched (jailed) 0/16
WoGged 1/16
Bladeceath
In the write up i was clearly not bothered about having to wait to be interviewed, plus the evidence there already stops me from being a chicken guy, what i want to know is why choatix stuck up for andres so much :smash:
Wow. We're both dead, now. That ain't cool.
Anyway, I wasn't so much 'sticking up' for Andres as much as I was suspicious of you, Aries, and merely agreeing with him. I found your frantic defense way more suspicious than Andres' sensible words.
Wow. We're both dead, now. That ain't cool.
Anyway, I wasn't so much 'sticking up' for Andres as much as I was suspicious of you, Aries, and merely agreeing with him. I found your frantic defense way more suspicious than Andres' sensible words.
sensible words maybe, but with no explanation or logic, also im not dead, another mistake please pay attention!
Also people here no me and u arent agreeing so i bet you were killed in an attempt to put me in trouble, bad luck that i was blocked, so it didn't work
oh yes, im onto you mafia, i know what your trying, and you got caught proper
also choatix your post number, 666 :death: :balloon2:
You're right, I do need to be paying more attention. Last week of school before break for me an' I been swamped with tests.
You're right, I do need to be paying more attention. Last week of school before break for me an' I been swamped with tests.
well seeing as your dead i'll let you off :laugh4: :balloon2:
Beefy187
12-18-2008, 03:06
You're right, I do need to be paying more attention. Last week of school before break for me an' I been swamped with tests.
Dude... What you doing on mafia? Go study!! :whip:
(If you already finished them all...)
Dude... What you doing on mafia? Go party!! :whip:
Sarathos
12-18-2008, 03:18
Just a hint to everyone...EAT BEEF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Beefy187
12-18-2008, 03:22
Just a hint to everyone...EAT BEEF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I actually prefer pork :juggle2:
I actually prefer pork :juggle2:
:inquisitive: vote:187beefyz
:clown:
unvote:creep:
Reenk Roink
12-18-2008, 04:23
Enjoying the writeups Beefy. :2thumbsup:
Only 1 kill tonight by the Chicken Mafia. Aries was blocked and Chaotix was killed... Clear pattern...
Vote: Aries
Yesterday Beef town news received a video clip anonymously. Please watch the video clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6R-LZ25Te0
What the bunny is this about?
CountArach
12-18-2008, 04:42
I think we might have gotten lucky with the two mafia groups killing each other off OR they may only be able to kill every second night to balance out their numbers advantage. I am thinking the second one sounds more likely, as the first option would be highly coinidental.
I have to go out now and I won't have computer access for the next 18 or so hours.
seireikhaan
12-18-2008, 06:17
For now, I will Vote: Aries. What with only one kill, and him being blocked, well...
Beefy187
12-18-2008, 09:32
Post on the watcher
The Watcher has been investigating people who will die, but this time, unlike Askthepizzaguy, The Watcher noticed Chaotix's garbage smelled like lamb. It seems there are different Mafia families, and one has been knocked off by the other!
Dedicated to the Lamby Chaotix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c720fVF4A3k
Askthepizzaguy
12-18-2008, 09:35
:whip:
Don't invoke my name unless you want to cause Ragnarok.
Post on the watcher
The Watcher has been investigating people who will die, but this time, unlike Askthepizzaguy, The Watcher noticed Chaotix's garbage smelled like lamb. It seems there are different Mafia families, and one has been knocked off by the other!
Dedicated to the Lamby Chaotix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c720fVF4A3k
To believe, or not to believe...
~:handball:~:handball:~:handball:
If true, that's glorious news
Quintus.JC
12-18-2008, 09:52
Vote: Aries
Aries has to go. He was blocked tonight and only 1 murder occured, of course further discussion is warranted, but this is as good as any evidence we got for lynching anyone right now.
Post on the watcher
The Watcher has been investigating people who will die, but this time, unlike Askthepizzaguy, The Watcher noticed Chaotix's garbage smelled like lamb. It seems there are different Mafia families, and one has been knocked off by the other!
Dedicated to the Lamby Chaotix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c720fVF4A3k
If this post is true, that would explain why there was only 1 murder (out of a possible 3). Aries was blocked and Chaotix was the Lamb mafia, that would be mean that Aries is possibly the pork mafia. Or it could be what Khaan was saying and that some mafia only get one kill every second nights.
I think we might have gotten lucky with the two mafia groups killing each other off OR they may only be able to kill every second night to balance out their numbers advantage. I am thinking the second one sounds more likely, as the first option would be highly coinidental.
I don't see how your second theory can work as we have a chickening on both nights. Reenk Roink's theory in the post above regarding Ares guilt seems very clearly possible:- it almost strikes me as TOO obvious and I am very wary of this being a mafia set-up. But I don't recall Ares indicating in any way that he may have a pro-beef role. Until I have read back through the posts again for more clues, I am currently inclined to believe he is an agent of Pork or Lamb and that the other mafia was accidentally dedded:skull: on the first night.
So for now: vote:777Ares777
Current tally:
777Ares777 4 (Reenk Roink, Seireikhaan, Quintus.JC, Boudica)
Quintus.JC
12-18-2008, 14:27
Question to the host: How many mafias are there in each mafia family. Are most of the chicken, Lamb and Pork mafia by themselves or do each family have 2 members?
I don't see how your second theory can work as we have a chickening on both nights. Reenk Roink's theory in the post above regarding Ares guilt seems very clearly possible:- it almost strikes me as TOO obvious and I am very wary of this being a mafia set-up. But I don't recall Ares indicating in any way that he may have a pro-beef role. Until I have read back through the posts again for more clues, I am currently inclined to believe he is an agent of Pork or Lamb and that the other mafia was accidentally dedded:skull: on the first night.
So for now: vote:777Ares777
Current tally:
777Ares777 4 (Reenk Roink, Seireikhaan, Quintus.JC, Boudica)
tank you for getting my name right, i thought this cleared me me apprently hating choatix, someone trying to kill me, though this will be my last post on this thread, my discussion isn't EVEN BEING LISTENED TO ANYWAY! read post 299 andres and reply, i dont care if i die, i just need answers, and im unhappy that YOU FAIL TO PROVIDE THEM! and no one even cares! it's massively possible mafia restrained from killing to again make you belive it was me, your all so gullible
Andres would easily do something like that to drop me in trouble, choatix being a lamby almost clears me completely from that, and im not the chicken guy as i was blocked and there was a chicken death, so that only leaves pork, which i am not, uhhh read the clues like i am.
(also i want massively apologizes at the end of the game when you realise i was innocent)
in contradiction MAFIA FTW! you townie fools can rot for all i care, Mafia are crafty and deserve a win over people that just bandwagon on me
edit: never did like beef anyway, lamb is better :P
and bah 59 detailed posts and those with 1 2 3 or 4 posts are seen in a good light, skin crawling
*** ignores 777Ares777 ***
~;p
Mafiosi never go down quiet...
777Ares777, I am not 100 % sure of your guilt. I am not a detective in this game.
However, your overall behaviour screams "scum" to me.
It's not just the self preservation, I can appreciate a townie trying to save his own skin, but it's the aggressive tone, the bad logic, anxiously trying to divert attention to anybody but yourself. Trying to save your own skin as a townie is ok, but it's suspicious when that's the only thing that's important to you.
I could understand that from somebody who is completely new to mafia, but this is not your first game.
Your behaviour is extremely suspicious and allthough not 100 % sure, I'm pretty sure you indeed are scum.
The fact that you got blocked tonight and we only had 1 kill doesn't speak in your advantage either.
I can be wrong. I have been wrong before. I have even convinced the town once to lynch a powerful townie role in Omanes' first version of The Brotherhood (so sorry Orb :shame:).
But this isn't my first mafia game either and so far, you seem like the best lynch option. Don't take it too personal.
*** ignores 777Ares777 ***
and you say i'm scum?
regardless you can say i'm a terrible player all you like, but i've made contributions no other player has
and you say i'm scum?
My "ignores 777Ares777" post was an attempt at humour :shame:
regardless you can say i'm a terrible player all you like, but i've made contributions no other player has
I never said you are a terrible player.
However, your overall behaviour screams "scum" to me.
well as good as terrible from this fragment, no?
i did make 6 points against you some points back too, none of which addresses so i belive "ignore 777ares777" is in fact what your doing, and only addressing my temper tandrums, not my case against you, my aggression doesnt mean im mafia, im agressive very often when im accused of being something im not, believe me
hear are highlights on hotseat games firstly
Oh yes, and so the Romans shall invade Russia. Tough luck, Kypchaks, for it is through verbal trickery and distraction that I was coerced into declaring this war on you. It seems the Roman Emperor and I are both quite vulnerable to suggestion.
But not to worry, after the war we can ride our horses together into the sunset along the vast, cold steppes, hand in hand.... noting that the cold winter air is making us shiver, I cooly suggest that we ride the same horse, and that we cling to one another for body heat. Then, I whisper into your ear in a soft, sensual but manly voice, how desperately, and how passionately I need to exterminate your people because the Omani man said so.
Prepare to die, Kypchaks! May the blood of your family paint a glorious future for the Roman Empire!
In all seriousness, let's get this game moving again with at least semi-in-character dialogue.
my favourite quote of ATPG's :laugh4:
now mine
the kypchak stands a reels of a speech in an mad erratic voice...
let me make one thing clear, the kypchaks are independent, are nations would not give into vast amount of slavery, and any that has been done has been agreed with BOTH parties, you seem not to care what the other nation wants though you servant of that old decrepit infidel you call your master
(the kypchak is clearly bursting aas his previous messenger did...)
the africians cannabals? what? how can you insult them like this ive never heard such rabble! and the catholics are also correct, they were sent there to protect christians and have formed strong bonds with all orthadox CHRISTIAN factions, there religions differ little, so keep your wretched sour diseased poisoned mouth to your evil self!!!!!!!
and you, abbasid, what do these maps prove? oh yes! that you've prized a batch of settlements from your borders in a similar fashion to day light robbery! its proposterous, and is this goldent crescent bond of the map ment to impress us? if every other major power was to strike an anti- golden crescent confedation your puny lands wouldnt scratch up to much then would it!?
(then in his joyous manner)
i want not your clothes, im happy with fur oman
could i perhaps hav some wine? im feeling dizzy :laugh4:
oh do shut up you snivelling fool, the turks are already are allies, nothing would of been said if you didnt feel the need to expect them to betray us, the ERE are most pleased with you my turks friends, and your previous ruler was close to my khan, we should unite once more, under the western allaince to join makuria, Eastern Roman Empire, georgia, armenia, kingdom of jerusalem, the great seljuks and our peoples, the kypchaks to raise a defense against those infidels to our eastern borders, the 'caliph' whos arrogance has truely offended cilvilized folk, while they greedyily ask other nation to give them settlements, these cunning abbasids want turkish, sind and seljuk regions! the omans, whos greed and trade ambition wont let them stop at anything, as they threaten to attack the makurians and underhandedly conspire against the indians, and finally the egypts, that snivelling fool who believes our friends should be submitted to slave trade! and brings vast armies to cilvilzed borders! well the western coalation our proud allies with your peoples, i hope you continue this, or you will really ruin our plans of a more peaceful society (decimator, the last turkish guy was on the westerncoalation, iask you stay in it to else our plans will be obliterated, to many people come and go, i think it would be harsh to leave our coalation now at such a crucial time)
nothing to do with this game, but it explains my aggressiveness in many scenarios, you interpret it wrong
also add point 7 to my list
7: you appear offline andres, hiding when your on isnt good, its sneaky and a bad mafia habit
7: you appear offline andres, hiding when your on isnt good, its sneaky and a bad mafia habit
I've always used invisible mode ever since I became a moderator :shrug:
I've always used invisible mode ever since I became a moderator :shrug:
fair enough, but it still looks bad i thought
by the way i am aware this is a game, i wouldnt usually bludgeon a moderator like this in out of game context :beam:
CountArach
12-18-2008, 23:04
I've always used invisible mode ever since I became a moderator :shrug:
Yep, lots of mafia players use Invisible Mode as well. I did for quite a while after Capo I.
For now, I will Vote: Aries. What with only one kill, and him being blocked, well...
So true.
Vote: Ares
I don't see how your second theory can work as we have a chickening on both nights.
I thought about that just after I posted the theory and realised the mistake. Of course it is possible that there is just one Chicken mafia who acts as a Serial killer, but has no teammates. However, if we take into account Ares being blocked then we are left with only 1 missing kill unexplained which would indicate that:
1) We have already killed this mafia.
OR
2) The mafia is not very active.
Next round might be the time to go for some of our less-active members.
Beefy187
12-19-2008, 00:25
This day will finish in about three hours. Although I never actually finished it on time.. :sweatdrop:
TevashSzat
12-19-2008, 00:53
Vote:Ares
Well, I think the reasons here are pretty obvious. He got blocked and only 1 murder occurred. Also, don't want him to escape another lynch
You all pray on one reason, yet i have about 7 reasons for my lynch choice :juggle2:
Even if you had 777777 reasons for your lynch choice, Ares, that would not necessarily make them all good reasons. :clown:
One good, well evidenced, backed-up reason can trump any number of other ones.
And it seems mostly everyone else shares that philosophy, by the number of votes on you.
Beefy187
12-19-2008, 06:07
Day 3 summery
"Those in favor of sending Ares to Jail? Say aye"
"Aye!"
"Seven... Those in favor of lynching others?"
"...."
"Its done. The supreme court of Beef towns orders Mr seven seven seven Ares seven. What ever number of seven he has to go to jail. Any defense for your selves Mr Ares?"
"I like sevens"
"Any thing else?"
"I'm innocent"
"Very well... Take him to the jail and we will see if he is really.... that innocent..."
777Ares777 7 (Reenk Roink, Seireikhaan, Quintus.JC, Boudica, Andres, CA, Tevash)
Start night 3
Alive players 10/16
Glyphz
Andres
Sarathos
Reenk Roink
QJC
Rythmic
Seireikhaan
CA
boudica
YLC (Came back from WoG)
Killed 4/16
White_Eyes (Porked day 1)
Yoyoma (Lambed day 1)
ATPG (Chickened day 1)
Chaotix (Chickened day 2)
Lynched (jailed) 1/16
777 Ares 777
WoGged 1/16
Bladeceath
7: you appear offline andres, hiding when your on isnt good, its sneaky and a bad mafia habit
Invisible mode or not has nothing to do with being mafia or not, it's just a privacy option.
Beefy187
12-19-2008, 07:30
Message from the watcher
With the Lamby Chaotix dead AND exposed and the Porky Aries jailed and also basically exposed we only need to find the Chickenator. The odds are against him however, as The Watcher remains alive and well.
Also, this is dedicated to the Chicken killer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZkllM8znx4
White_eyes:D
12-19-2008, 09:32
Message from the watcher
With the Lamby Chaotix dead AND exposed and the Porky Aries jailed and also basically exposed we only need to find the Chickenator. The odds are against him however, as The Watcher remains alive and well.
Also, this is dedicated to the Chicken killer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZkllM8znx4
Ok, This 'Watcher' reminds me of the situation off, Death note like 'L' taunting 'Kira' style:thrasher:
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
Edit: only two people I know of crazy enough to do this would be Khaan or Reenk.......:grin2:
Beefy187
12-19-2008, 09:45
Whats the video btw? It doesnt show up on my region :sweatdrop:
CountArach
12-19-2008, 10:27
Whats the video btw? It doesnt show up on my region :sweatdrop:
IT'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!!!!
IT'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!!!!
Given the previous tunes it was 'only a matter of time':shame:
Love the summary Beefy:laugh4:
"Very well... Take him to the jail and we will see if he is really.... that innocent..." [/I]
777Ares777 7 (Reenk Roink, Seireikhaan, Quintus.JC, Boudica, Andres, CA, Tevash)
WHEN! :furious3:
also 7 votes for me, oooh spooky :clown:
and i would never be pork, lamb at least, much yummier :yes:
edit: and you just no i'm not going to give up! so i'm an add on to this game permanantly, whether you like it or not :grin:
Yoyoma1910
12-19-2008, 18:37
WHEN! :furious3:
also 7 votes for me, oooh spooky :clown:
and i would never be pork, lamb at least, much yummier :yes:
edit: and you just no i'm not going to give up! so i'm an add on to this game permanantly, whether you like it or not :grin:
Give it up porky.
Give it up porky.
having said this i live for beef, and your going to buy me a herd of cows before the end
And only on the assumption that choatix was mafia, you still have 2 meat types to kill as i was innoceNt, and i thought choatix was suspicious too, for example Andres didnt suspect choatix, yet i did (then again i suspect all of you)
Mafia FTW
Quintus.JC
12-19-2008, 19:06
And only on the assumption that choatix was mafia, you still have 2 meat types to kill as i was innoceNt, and i thought choatix was suspicious too, for example Andres didnt suspect choatix, yet i did (then again i suspect all of you)
Mafia FTW
Aren't you the pork guy?
Aren't you the pork guy?
NOOOOOOO! I'm innocent, besides i have no need to lies after death anyway
Yoyoma1910
12-19-2008, 20:11
NOOOOOOO! I'm innocent, besides i have no need to lies after death anyway
Well you're not quite dead yet, are you?
I smell bacon... frying.
Quintus.JC
12-19-2008, 20:55
NOOOOOOO! I'm innocent, besides i have no need to lies after death anyway
Really? The host seems to think otherwise. Unless this whole watcher thing is just crap. I'm less certain about Chaotix since he was murdered rather then lynched, but I'll trust the watcher now because it makes since that there were 3 kills on night 1. On night 2 lamb is dead and pork is blocked, and only one kill occured.
Message from the watcher
With the Lamby Chaotix dead AND exposed and the Porky Aries jailed and also basically exposed we only need to find the Chickenator. The odds are against him however, as The Watcher remains alive and well.
Also, this is dedicated to the Chicken killer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZkllM8znx4
I think I'll trust the host right now.
I think I'll trust the host right now.
that was a message from the watcher, not beefy personally, he cannot influence the game like that himself, else he'd be giving false information, the fraudster watcher declared this, the host was merely delivering it
Quintus.JC
12-19-2008, 21:31
that was a message from the watcher, not beefy personally, he cannot influence the game like that himself, else he'd be giving false information, the fraudster watcher declared this, the host was merely delivering it
I just realized :sweatdrop:... Aries is right. All those messages are posted by the watcher, not the host. That means these post would lose its reliablity, although the decreased number of murders would fit with the fact of the remove of 2 mafias. But what ever happens I'm uncertain about Aries and Chaotix's guilt now.
Who is this watcher fellow anyway? :inquisitive:
Askthepizzaguy
12-19-2008, 21:32
I'd be interested to know who everyone is as well.
CountArach
12-19-2008, 22:37
Ares was guilty and don't believe anything else beyond that which he tells you - everything he says from here on out should be taken as misdirection. The case against him was too strong to be wrong.
Ares was guilty and don't believe anything else beyond that which he tells you - everything he says from here on out should be taken as misdirection. The case against him was too strong to be wrong.
CA, the case against Ares, although strong, was still circumstantial. I know I haven't been active lately, and I apologize - L4D has stolen my life away, along with Combat Arms and work. But to be honest, Andres and you have been the most active in leading the town - far to many times have I seen the mafia do this by actually setting up another person and "create" evidence against someone to continuously gain credibility with the town until it is to late.
FoS: Andres and CountArach
I'll listen to Ares as much as I want until to me he is guilty, not before.
CountArach
12-19-2008, 23:21
What about it was circumstantial? On the night that Ares is blocked we get one less kill - how does that not point to him being guilty?
FoS: YLC for sticking up for his scum-buddy.
Ares was guilty and don't believe anything else beyond that which he tells you - everything he says from here on out should be taken as misdirection. The case against him was too strong to be wrong.
with an opinion as pig headed as that, you must be the fraudster watcher, me and choatix have disscussed and we're both adamant about are innocence, the only things saying were guilty after death is these messages, the same message ATPG said to ignore in all there entirety as anyone could have wrote them, i'm sure you know that CA, seeing as you probably sent them
ONE LESS DEATH MEANING NOTHING! an attack could have been made on someone with a mafia defense, or mafia could have done this on purpose to frame me, your opinion is so narrow minded
FoS: YLC for sticking up for his scum-buddy.
So players can't even have opinions now? Andres was far from innocent in my eyes yet you change the subject directly to me instead of address the points i made, none of you even did answer post 299# and my jailing shown no sign of me being mafia at all, though it's rather pointless me saying this now i'm dead
I can confirm Aries' words here. We are both fairly certain of each other's innocence, and so if you choose to believe us rather than the unknown Watcher, then the truth is he's been lying this whole time. I wouldn't go so far as to say CountArach is the Watcher, but he's definitely been trying his utmost in order to make everyone else believe the Watcher. Perhaps he's either Pork or Lamb mafia, and wants everyone to think they're gone?
Beefy187
12-20-2008, 00:26
Letter arrives on a towns hall
Здравствулте!
Who should I protect?
Русский
Letter arrives on a towns hall
Здравствулте!
Who should I protect?
Русский
YLC, or perhaps yoyoma :bow:
CountArach
12-20-2008, 00:30
with an opinion as pig headed as that
Read the forum rules about personal attacks.
you must be the fraudster watcher, me and choatix have disscussed and we're both adamant about are innocence, the only things saying were guilty after death is these messages, the same message ATPG said to ignore in all there entirety as anyone could have wrote them, i'm sure you know that CA, seeing as you probably sent them
Hahahahaha
Hahahaha
Hahaha
ahhahah
Oh wait...
You were serious...
So you expect me to believe that you (Likely mafia) and Chaotix (Confirmed mafia) have confirmed each other's innocence?
Hahahahaha
ahaha
hahah
hahah
I wouldn't go so far as to say CountArach is the Watcher, but he's definitely been trying his utmost in order to make everyone else believe the Watcher.
Seriously? Did you actually read my posts earlier in the game where I urged everyone to ignore every single message that is posted in this thread by anyone purporting to be The Watcher.
hahahahaha yes so funny, to think you two so narrowly avoided a lynch last round
well town, heres your chance to try again, and lynch him successfully this time
Beefy187
12-20-2008, 00:38
Read the forum rules about personal attacks.
You havnt seen the "noble sons". I could've wogged pretty much everyone for personal attacks :sweatdrop:
Im about to head off soon, but should be able to update in with in 4 hours. If not sometimes today
Reenk Roink
12-20-2008, 00:40
Look, I was the one who started the bandwagon on Aries before the watcher posted because of the simple reason that Aries was blocked and the kills dropped from 3 to 1. The added element of Chaotix27 being yet another Mafia is plausible though, as in the opening story Beefy tells us there are three families, and the math works.
Remember, I tried my hardest to save Aries the round before. I don't like lynching without a darn good reason, and we had a darn good reason. Can Aries and Chaotix27 give us good reasons why the kills went down to 1 from 3 when they were blocked or killed? Well? Can you?
If there is a Pork or Lamb Mafia kill today, then obviously we were wrong and the watcher was a liar. Also, the fact may be that the watcher could be the last Mafia...
i already gave a reason why the kills could have easily gone down
ONE LESS DEATH MEANING NOTHING! an attack could have been made on someone with a mafia defense, or mafia could have done this on purpose to frame me, your opinion is so narrow minded
:bigcry:
pig headed
I had to look that up (not a native speaker).
pig-headed
Adjective
stupidly stubborn
Debates have been heated lately. I don't mind a though game, but please refrain from further personal attacks.
I don't like giving warning points :brood:
Chaotix27, why the sudden change of heart?
Quite a few lurkers in this game as well. If this game doesn't end tonight, then some of them will need to talk :whip:
i would have thought a phrase equaling to being stupidly stubborn was very fitting considering the post, its not like i was swearing
Beefy187
12-20-2008, 02:53
Night 3 summery
[B]
"Knock knock"
"Whos there?"
"Oh hello [B]Reenk...."
"You are!!...... the interview dude!!"
"Yes! Hello Reenk! You have been selected tonight. For our interview!! How do you feel about the murders in our town?"
"Quite terrible... I.... Wait.. I have a job, if you excuse me."
"Oh no no Reenk. No one refuses my interview. Not one so far... Are you going to be the first man to refu...."
"Right right!! Throw me your questions."
.................................................................................................... ...........................................................
"Yes.. Again tomorrow. We go bother peoples yea? Aye. See you then"
Tevash was heading home. He spotted a man staring at him in the dark alley. He wanted to run. But at the same time, he was interested in this man.
"Hey stranger. What you doing?"
"Punishing" the man replied. He slowly appeared out of darkness with his intimidating costume.
Tevash started shivering. Not because it was cold, but because of the mans terrifying voice. And his knife.
"Ah this? Not to worry. I am not going to stab you...."
"What do you want!!"
"I am how ever going to kill you... DIE!!"
The chicken warrior, jumped on Tevash. Then he slowly pulled out the deadly roast chicken.
"I am going to enjoy this...."
"No please... Spare me... I...."
"Die!!"
Chicken warrior shoved the chicken in Tevashs mouth and waited for it to come in effect. He danced while Tevash suffered in agony.
"Ah joy of killing!!!"
Tevash is Chickened
.................................................................................................... ......................................................
"Че, на хуй?!?!! Man I thought I can be like superman... Wheres those damn villains??"
.................................................................................................... .......................................................
CountArach hanged his clothes on the shelf and sighed. Tired from another day of work. What he needs is a nice shower and a bath to relax.
"Hey CA"
CountArach looked over his shoulder and saw someone charging at him. He had no time to react. The raider had the knife on his throat.
"Hi there... Today you are going to have some fun... Because you are going to eat my meat... And you are going to love it..."
"Pfft. You think i'm one of those ordinary Beef villagers? If you think you can convert me, your making a big mistake."
"We'll see about that... Now take a bite of my lamb..."
"Never! I hate your meat."
"Aww come on... For decades, I've been smelling yours.."
"Go smell again. I die with my meat."
"Gah, just shut up and eat."
CA was forced to chew the meat. As expected he had a extreme allergic reaction and died.
"Ah.... Thats unfortunate. I thought I could've made friends with him..."
Lamb mafia left the room...
CA was Lambed
Alive players 9/16
Glyphz
Andres
Sarathos
Reenk Roink
QJC
Rythmic
Seireikhaan
boudica
YLC (Came back from WoG)
Killed 4/16
White_Eyes (Porked night 1)
Yoyoma (Lambed night 1)
ATPG (Chickened night 1)
Chaotix (Chickened night 2)
Tevash (Chickened night 3)
CA (Lambed night 3)
Lynched (jailed) 1/16
777 Ares 777
WoGged 1/16
Bladeceath
seireikhaan
12-20-2008, 03:02
:inquisitive:
Why on earth was Reenk blocked. I would like to say whoever the the blocker is made a poor choice. Methinks Reenk is innocent.
Vote: Glyphz
Speak up bud.
Why did the lamb mafia not kill anyone on night 2? Maybe they forgot? Or maybe they can only kill every two nights?
Yes, right CA...hmm, what are everyone's thoughts? Since I am trying desperately not to sound sarcastic, I am sure Aries can be believed now. The Pork was killed early on, obliviously, the Lamb either was inactive last night, or better yet, has decided to work with the Chicken mafia, otherwise the ploy would not have been so well coordinated. I am almost certain we can firmly belive in Ares at the very least.
Vote:Andres
Post on the watcher
The Watcher has been investigating people who will die, but this time, unlike Askthepizzaguy, The Watcher noticed Chaotix's garbage smelled like lamb. It seems there are different Mafia families, and one has been knocked off by the other!
Dedicated to the Lamby Chaotix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c720fVF4A3k
So The Watcher was a liar then? I doubt there can be more than 1 member for each mafia family as there's only 16 players to begin with, and 3 killers is enough. MOre than that is overkill, IMO.
Could The Watcher be mafia then?
Reenk Roink
12-20-2008, 05:28
Methinks Reenk is innocent.
And why is this? :inquisitive:
Also why do people think Aries is innocent though? :inquisitive:
seireikhaan
12-20-2008, 07:13
And why is this? :inquisitive:
Because I think Ares was guilty, and I don't think even you have the stones to throw your buddy under the bus twice in a row.
Sarathos
12-20-2008, 08:24
Vote Quintus because....
Quintus.JC
12-20-2008, 10:21
Vote Quintus because....
Because?
Why did the lamb mafia not kill anyone on night 2? Maybe they forgot? Or maybe they can only kill every two nights?
Vote: Sarathos
Not meatballing here, I was going to vote Sarathos anyway because he was one of the players that was inactive on night 2, plus as a townie hasn't been contributing much/at all. Sarathos seems to post to avoid a clear WOG, scummy behaviour to me.
Quintus.JC
12-20-2008, 10:26
So The Watcher was a liar then? I doubt there can be more than 1 member for each mafia family as there's only 16 players to begin with, and 3 killers is enough. MOre than that is overkill, IMO.
Could The Watcher be mafia then?
I also don't trust the watcher. I also doubt there could be more than 1 member of each mafia family, so it could mean:
1. The watcher was lying, Chaotix wasn't the lamb mafia, and now the lamb guy is still on the loose.
2. The watcher was telling the truth, and now there's a lamb turncoat/convert on the loose.
3. The watcher was telling the truth, and there are suprisingly 2 lamb members, the remaining is doing all the murder.
One reasoning is as likely as the last, I'm not sure which one to believe now...
Also what's up with the Russian fellow, he seems to be one of the good guys.
CountArach
12-20-2008, 11:01
This is going to be hard for us to win.
This is going to be hard for us to win.
made all the harder for lynching me last round :no:
pork cant hide forever, you all believed me to be pork mafia so the porky doesnt attack, coinceidence, or just plain crafty tactics, at least you can see that at least choatix is half cleared, with a lamb killer around, besides the fact that theres a 4% chance of lynching 2/3 mafia in the first 2 days :inquisitive: and only 8% of lynching one first
Quintus.JC
12-20-2008, 21:09
made all the harder for lynching me last round :no:
pork cant hide forever, you all believed me to be pork mafia so the porky doesnt attack, coinceidence, or just plain crafty tactics, at least you can see that at least choatix is half cleared, with a lamb killer around, besides the fact that theres a 4% chance of lynching 2/3 mafia in the first 2 days :inquisitive: and only 8% of lynching one first
You really used the probability tree diagram for that didn't you? :beam:
Anyway yes, this doesn't look good for town, and assuming if the porky is still alive then it would be even worse for town. We need to take some serious action, or else it could all be too late here.
Beefy187
12-21-2008, 00:35
Tally
Glyphz: 1 (Seireikhaan)
Andres: 1 (YLC)
Quintus: 1 (Sarathos)
Sarathos: 1 (Quintus)
4 more hours
Vote: Andres
We cannot allow things to end in a no lynch, IMO.
Unsure who to vote for:stwshame:, so I'll have to stick to the last one I did vote for...
Tally
Andres: 2 (YLC,glyphz)
Glyphz: 1 (Seireikhaan)
Quintus: 1 (Sarathos)
Sarathos: 1 (Quintus)
Come on guys, place your votes!
I'll change my vote in the case of a tie, unless you convince me why there should be a no lynch this round...
Reenk Roink
12-21-2008, 04:52
Vote: glyphz
We must tie!
Andres: 2 (YLC, glyphz)
Glyphz: 2 (Seireikhaan, Reenk Roink)
Quintus: 1 (Sarathos)
Sarathos: 1 (Quintus)
We must tie!
May I know your reason for possibly preventing a lynch, Reenk?
Askthepizzaguy
12-21-2008, 06:03
Yeah... forgive me, but that Reeks, Roink.
:quiet:
At the rate townies are dropping, I think not lynching anyone would be a tragic mistake- we need to get these two remaining killers.
I'd take back my vote, but knowing my true allegiance (whether you believe me or not:shrug:), my lynch isn't gonna help town
CountArach
12-21-2008, 06:45
FoS: Reenk
That is resoundingly un-townie play. The town may only kill through the day and to deny that gives the mafia a free pass.
4 more hours
Request for an extension, for the others who have not voted.
Please?
:cake:
Beefy187
12-21-2008, 06:54
Request for an extension, for the others who have not voted.
Granted.. I had some job to do anyway.. Now i'm off to watch some soccer
Also letter has arrived to the Beef town police station
Andres has been cleared of wrong doing by investigation
Reenk Roink
12-21-2008, 07:36
Because nobody has a good reason for voting anybody. The reasons are, to be frank, terrible; and the 'suspicion' I'm getting is contradictory.
Unlike the Aries lynch, the guy (Andres) is probably not guilty (suspicious he is, but right now is not a good time to go after people for that weak reasons). Beefy's tie rules are extremely generous. I'm going to do my best to make use of them.
Why are you lot so eager to dwindle our numbers and help the Mafia? :inquisitive: FOS on all of you...
Because nobody has a good reason for voting anybody. The reasons are, to be frank, terrible; and the 'suspicion' I'm getting is contradictory.
Unlike the Aries lynch, the guy (Andres) is probably not guilty (suspicious he is, but right now is not a good time to go after people for that weak reasons). Beefy's tie rules are extremely generous. I'm going to do my best to make use of them.
Why are you lot so eager to dwindle our numbers and help the Mafia? :inquisitive: FOS on all of you...
Please kindly explain then how you plan, or what your plan is, on actually disposing of the mafia is? If you refuse to tell us, you actually expect us to listen to you?
Unvote:Andres
Vote:RR
Reenk Roink
12-21-2008, 08:08
Please kindly explain then how you plan, or what your plan is, on actually disposing of the mafia is? If you refuse to tell us, you actually expect us to listen to you?
Unvote:Andres
Vote:RR
Who is refusing to tell anyone anything? You are attributing something false to me, pretty darn scummy.
As if the reason behind not lynching isn't self evident, I'll spell it out so YLC can be 'satisfied'.
Lynching somebody with bad reasons, a paragon being your non sequiter vote on Andres which I quote:
Yes, right CA...hmm, what are everyone's thoughts? Since I am trying desperately not to sound sarcastic, I am sure Aries can be believed now. The Pork was killed early on, obliviously, the Lamb either was inactive last night, or better yet, has decided to work with the Chicken mafia, otherwise the ploy would not have been so well coordinated. I am almost certain we can firmly belive in Ares at the very least.
Vote:Andres
...is just bad play. Especially when the rules are so relaxed that we don't have to lynch in cases of ties AND given the fact that this game was large to begin with although the full 25 wanted people did not sign up.
The thoughts behind my proposed strategy of tying the rounds up:
When there is strong evidence for someones guilt, such as the Aries case, I am more than happy to cast a lynching vote
However, when not present, such as in this round, not lynching would be are best option. Especially true in the earlier rounds where the probability of RANDOMLY getting a Mafia is less likely than getting an innocent (as obviously, in the late stages we should lynch unless absolutely no evidence pops up, which is unlikely).
The reason for this is obviously to keep our numbers intact and make it one more kill that the Mafia must do. I really honestly thought this was all but self evident and ampliative from the strategy. I guess I was wrong?
Now, how to determine what is strong evidence or not? Well, tough question to answer, though I think most can agree that your post and your vote gives absolutely no substance whatsoever. It is one of the worst votes ever in Mafia history, I'm sad to say...
Was this a good enough reason to:
1) show the inadequacies of the "lynching is good for the town" mentality (the only defense of which has been "it is the only way the town can kill") :no:
2) show the benefits of pursuing a non lynch strategy unless we have clear information, especially in the earlier rounds? :yes:
Eh YLC? :rolleyes:
Also unvote: glyphz
I think your relying on a few things here - numbers, timing, and clues
I already see how such a strategy may have value, but what I don't see is how it will actually hold up in practice.
There are nine of us left, and we are not fully aware of everyone's alignment, but if we throw in probable figures of two remaining mafia, then we have exactly two nights before things go downhill without a lynch. Meaning, evidence would have to appear quite quick, since tonight we will be 7 left, then 5, then 3, meaning two nights at max, or if were lucky and one of them off another, then we have 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 which is an extension of four nights, if he gets him this night, or worse 7, 5, 4, 3, 2.
But were actually counting on one of the mafia to off the other this way - not practical. And as can be seen, Beefy hasn't handed out any clues to indicate whom may be one of the mafia factions.
In either case, the sooner we kill them, the better the outcome. The longer we wait to lynch someone, the less time we have.
That is my analysis of the situation Reenk, and now pokes some holes in it :beam:
Reenk Roink
12-21-2008, 08:46
Your post this time is a lot more helpful to the town, I commend you for it. :bow:
I believe that a no lynch at this point is critical. As you pointed out (and as I admitted) we can't just not lynch throughout the game. That does leave it to the Mafia (or the pro-town roles which I'll get to) to do the work for us, and is too passive an approach, I agree.
But in this round, is anyone really even somewhat convinced that one of Andres, Sarathos, Quintus, glyphz, or myself is Mafia? Note that the probability that one or more of us is a Mafia is high, but the fact that we have named 5 different people with really no evidence is just poor.
I did not feel Andres's suspicious play earlier was enough to offset the harm of lynching an innocent at this stage. Would I feel differently if there were 5 left? Yes. But at this point, I believe that we have a better shot at letting pro town roles have one or two more shots (an interviewer (roleblocker?) and someone who goes through garbage (detective?) were present in the write ups, and this watcher guy seems to say he does investigations). It's better then shooting wildly in the dark.
Also, I at least am using this time to figure out who is doing what. I suggest other members read the thread, especially Beefy's offical posts. For example, I cannot be the roleblocker and could not be active last night...this kind of data is needed. :wink:
Sorry guys - ended up having to babysit last night with no connection. will be back to normal tomorrow but time actually over xmas - new year also very limited
vote: abstain
Beefy187
12-21-2008, 12:11
Sorry guys - ended up having to babysit last night with no connection. will be back to normal tomorrow but time actually over xmas - new year also very limited
vote: abstain
Probably not my line to say but don't worry about it. RL is more important then mafia
What the hell is going on. I cannot see how refusing to lynch is a good tactic, sure it may buy some more time, but how much? Maybe one day, if we're lucky?
But, again, I haven't found nor seen anything of worth that may incriminate anyone. So a no lynch maybe crazy and risky enough to perhaps work.
Quintus.JC
12-21-2008, 17:36
My opinion is against no lynch, I recommended this tactic in the Golden rule; where the mafia isn't killing anybody. Problem is that there are 1/2 murders happening per night in this game. No lynches will spare innocent townies, yes. But if we don't lynch anyone then we're never going to find the mafia, we'll all just be sitting beefs. We don't have the time for no lynches, especially at this stage of the game.
My vote stands. Sarathos is behaving rather scummily, he's posts are largely there to avoid the WOG. Worse of all as a townie he is making no contribution what so ever and therefore we wouldn't miss him much. I don't have any evidence against anyone else so Sarathos has my vote for now.
Beefy187
12-22-2008, 00:10
I'm ready to end this phase, if glyphz agrees
I finished your cake :laugh4:
I finished your cake :laugh4:
Already finished? I should have sent 2 cakes for twice the time:7jester:
Anyway, I'm assuming 'most' people are against no lynching
Unvote: Andres ; Vote: Sarathos
Beefy187
12-22-2008, 00:23
Already finished? I should have sent 2 cakes for twice the time:7jester:
Anyway, I'm assuming 'most' people are against no lynching
Unvote: Andres ; Vote: Sarathos
Then I would've ate it twice as fast. Quit trying your tricks of bribing the host :smash:
So can I finish the phase?
By all means. You've been generous enough to grant an extension:bow:
Much thanks
Beefy187
12-22-2008, 00:48
No worries. Thanks for kind words and... cake!! Tally would make my day even more but...:inquisitive:
Day 4 summery (yes? Is that right?)
After a heated discussion, Sarathos was decided to be jailed along with Ares.
"Firstly let us thank the cows for todays triumph! We found Sarathos to be guilty and thus we send him to jail."
"I like cows" replied Sarathos.
"Shut up you! Off to jail! Now then. Let us hope that the murders are over. If our Beef town is going to remain unpolluted or royal to Beef is up to you folks. Gents. Please watch your backs when you go home. And make sure you don't go out tonight."
Alive players 8/17
Glyphz
Andres
Reenk Roink
QJC
Rythmic
Seireikhaan
boudica
YLC (Came back from WoG)
Killed 4/17
White_Eyes (Porked night 1)
Yoyoma (Lambed night 1)
ATPG (Chickened night 1)
Chaotix (Chickened night 2)
Tevash (Chickened night 3)
CA (Lambed night 3)
Lynched (jailed) 1/17
777 Ares 777
Sarathos
WoGged 1/17
Bladeceath
Glyphz: 1 (Seireikhaan)
Quintus: 1 (Sarathos)
Sarathos: 2 (Quintus, Glyphz)
Reenk Roink: 1 (YLC)
Start night 4!! Night orders please!
Sarathos
12-22-2008, 01:54
But I was just a simple beef-loving town.....
But I was just a simple beef-loving town.....
join the club, town havent a chance on this game
Reenk Roink
12-22-2008, 04:40
join the club, town havent a chance on this game
You would like that wouldn't you Porkster? :laugh4:
The Sarathos lynching was just :wall: after all my hard work to try and convince the town otherwise... :shame:
CountArach
12-22-2008, 06:20
join the club, town havent a chance on this game
Then would you care to actually... you know... contribute something!?
Really, this no lynch madness has to stop.
How do you guys expect to kill the mafia if we are not going to lynch round after round?
We have only 8 players left. In a worst case scenario, there are two mafiosi left.
Please, keep in mind that we absolutely need to lynch next round or we lose this game.
tonight: 2 kills
tomorrow: 6 left : no lynch
next night: 2 kills
final day: 4 left : number of mafiosi equals number of townies = game over, mafia win.
FoS : Reenk Roink
Reenk Roink
12-22-2008, 17:44
Really, this no lynch madness has to stop.
How do you guys expect to kill the mafia if we are not going to lynch round after round?
We have only 8 players left. In a worst case scenario, there are two mafiosi left.
Please, keep in mind that we absolutely need to lynch next round or we lose this game.
tonight: 2 kills
tomorrow: 6 left : no lynch
next night: 2 kills
final day: 4 left : number of mafiosi equals number of townies = game over, mafia win.
FoS : Reenk Roink
This simplistic scenario ignores:
1) protown roles and their impact
2) mafia killing each other
3) actual evidence popping up justifying a lynch
But what else can I expect from the rmisguided masses? :shame:
Do we know for sure that Chicken mafia do not know the identities of Pork/Lamb etc?
During the Lambing of CA, was a possible conversion attempted? and would CA have been converted if he didn't have a (hinted at) role?
Was CA one of the Russians?
Will there be a surprise porking tonight?
:inquisitive:
CountArach
12-22-2008, 20:03
During the Lambing of CA, was a possible conversion attempted? and would CA have been converted if he didn't have a (hinted at) role?
Hmmm, interesting theory. I certainly didn't get any PM indicating anything like that. I certainly hope the mafia families don't have the ability to convert.
Was CA one of the Russians?
Nup.
Beefy187
12-23-2008, 01:11
Night 4
"Good morning ladies and gentlemen! And this is.... Beef Town news!! We have Jarred Lee, live from tonights victim."
"Good morning all! Yesterday, we Beef town news started our own investigation squad. What we did was patrol during the night and see if we can get the identity of the killers."
"Its very dangerous isnt it Jarred?"
"Indeed it is. But we think that it is our duty as Beef town community to catch the killers."
"Ok. Please tell us what the town is like recently."
"According to the scientists, some towns man of Beef town are so stubborn Beef lovers that they will get allergic reaction when they eat meats other then Beef. Those stubborn Beef lovers are the ones who got in the meeting."
"So are you saying that average townies don't mind eating other meat products?"
"Yes indeed. They seem to dislike it at first, but after a few steak, they will like foreign meats which is going around like porks, lambs and chickens."
"What is the reaction of our community towards those traitors?"
"Police have been arresting those who publicly eats foreign meat and investigates others. However as none of them seems to be guilty of murdering other townies, police still suspects that the murderers were amongst and still are in the stubborn Beef loving community. One of these people might be the murderer..
Glyphz
Andres
Reenk Roink
QJC
Rythmic
boudica
YLC"
"Jarred? I thought there were 8 people left in the meeting. You only mentioned 7?"
"Unfortunately Mr Seireikhaan was brutally murdered by what it seems to be lamb."
"Rest in peace Mr Khaan..."
"Also our crew found a drunken Russian wondering around yesterday. How this relates to the murders are still being investigated."
"Russians these days... Thank you Jarred. Now I will read the excerpts from The watcher today. Theres two separate articles. Heres the first one.
Excerpts 1
The watcher would like to tell you the happy news that Sarathos was found guilty of betraying the name of beef by eating lamb.
Excerpts 2
The Watcher is would like to tell the town to stand firm in resolve. He is the guardian of the town and will ensure a victory against the Lamb and Chicken mafioso groups.
Let it be known that Chaotix was indeed investigated and confirmed as a Lamb mafioso. How the Lamb killers continued to operate leaves several possibilities. Conversion perhaps, or perhaps they were two people strong, or perhaps even I was misguided though that is unlikely given my role.
Let the Chicken and Lamb mafiosos know this, they are https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k99h5aikc4g and will be caught.
"That would be all for today. May the cows bless those who go to the meeting today. Wish them good luck as they decide who the murderer was..."
Alive players 7/17
Glyphz
Andres
Reenk Roink
QJC
Rythmic
boudica
YLC
Killed 7/17
White_Eyes (Porked night 1)
Yoyoma (Lambed night 1)
ATPG (Chickened night 1)
Chaotix (Chickened night 2)
Tevash (Chickened night 3)
CA (Lambed night 3)
Seireikhaan (Lambed night 4)
Lynched (jailed) 2/17
777 Ares 777
Sarathos
WoGged 1/17
Bladeceath
Start day 5!!
Beefy187
12-23-2008, 01:33
Angry letter arrives on the watcher
Town! The first excerpt note from The Watcher is fake! The second is authentic The Watcher as you should be able to tell by style. Also, the Watcher investigated khaan last night and he was a 100% beefy and innocent and dead.
CountArach
12-23-2008, 02:44
Alright, now the problem with The Watcher manifests itself...
We have no true way of verifying whether the most recent angry letter was from The Watcher or whether it was simply the Mafia pretending to be The Watcher to fool us into disregarding the first message. All we have is text analysis. Below I have copied every single message that The Watcher has sent (If I missed one, feel free to alert me):
First message:
You will succeed as long as I am alive
Second message:
Disregard every message that comes to you except from The Watcher. I will also make sure to tell you if any fakes show up.
Askthepizzaguy was innocent, both by The Watcher's investigation and by kill. It is pointless theorizing about him.
Third message:
The Watcher has been investigating people who will die, but this time, unlike Askthepizzaguy, The Watcher noticed Chaotix's garbage smelled like lamb. It seems there are different Mafia families, and one has been knocked off by the other!
Dedicated to the Lamby Chaotix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c720fVF4A3k
Fourth message (Excerpt 1):
The watcher would like to tell you the happy news that Sarathos was found guilty of betraying the name of beef by eating lamb.
Fifth Message (Excerpt 2):
The Watcher is would like to tell the town to stand firm in resolve. He is the guardian of the town and will ensure a victory against the Lamb and Chicken mafioso groups.
Let it be known that Chaotix was indeed investigated and confirmed as a Lamb mafioso. How the Lamb killers continued to operate leaves several possibilities. Conversion perhaps, or perhaps they were two people strong, or perhaps even I was misguided though that is unlikely given my role.
Let the Chicken and Lamb mafiosos know this, they are https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k99h5aikc4g and will be caught.
Alright things that can be noted from each one, in order:
First - No punctuation at the end of the message. Certainly legitimately from The Watcher because I find it highly unlikely that any true Detective would take the same name that a Mafia group made up earlier (Ie - in this post). Use of the first person.
Second - A decent grasp of the English language, but a bit of confusion in the second sentence with the use of the word "also", hinting the person may either be somewhat sloppy sometimes or a bit younger (And hence more likely to be prone to mistakes). Also note the American spelling of the word theorising, hence indicating that the person is American. Use of the first person.
Third - A good grasp of punctuation. First use of the youtube link, this time showing a good grasp of western culture; most probably someone who lives in England/US. Also the first time that the third person is used.
Fourth - The message that is most in dispute. There is an awkward use of the word "happy" here (The standard English idiom being "great" or "good"), perhaps pointing to one who lives outside the English speaking world. Also the way that lamb is referenced to me seems rather different to how it is referenced in message three. Quite crucially the name "Watcher" is not capitalised here AND ONLY here. I would say this message is definitely faked.
Fifth - Incorrect use of the word "is" in the first sentence. The constant use of the third person again seems reminiscent of the third message. The youtube link again shows a western cultural connection. The seamless use of the youtube title shows a great grasp of the language.
So from these messages I would say that the fourth message was faked and that the rest are legitimate. That then begs the question of who wrote number 4 - I would personally think it is a non-native speaker of English. Also the person is clearly experienced at mafia - no new players wouold try to get this complicated and try a gambit such as this. I personally would FoS: Andres for that reason.
I leave it with you now guys and girls.
Well, I don't think we should be able to trust any of them- who's sure that the "original" Watcher was definitely an investigator anyway? Now that there's conflicting views, we have even less reason to trust anything that is said, and it is hardly worth the time determining which ones are legitimate and which are not.
Of course, nobody is going to listen to a word I say, anyway, because the Watcher is saying I'm mafia. :wall:
Beefy187
12-23-2008, 07:50
"What is this?"
"Its from the watcher again."
The Watcher's Facts
===================
Askthepizzaguy - innocent (dead)
Chaotix - Lamb mafioso (dead)
Andres - innocent (alive)
khaan - innocent (dead)
The Watcher's Conclusions
=========================
These are based primarily on the writeups and my investigations but also on the happenings throughout the game
Game Mechanics:
***The three Mafia groups each have two members - This may seem like overkill to some, but let us remember that this was supposed to be a Large Mafia game which only got 17 signups.
***When one member dies, his group does not get to kill the following round and then resumes activity - Based on the fact that after Chaotix (confirmed Lamb mafioso) died there was no 'Lambed' kill
State of Game at the moment:
The Pork group died with Aries (meaning the first Pork mafioso probably died even earlier unnoticed and that roleblocking Aries on night two was redundant). The Chicken group had their first non kill night tonight meaning that Sarathos was a Chicken mafioso (khaan was innocent by investigation). Furthermore, by the nature of Beefy's PM's to me, the khaan investigation really stressed he was innocent wheras the Askthepizzaguy and Andres investigations were less forceful. I believe that this, in combination with the fact that the roleblocker did not show up in the latest write-up, points to khaan being the roleblocker. It should be noted that khaan criticized the roleblocker earlier. That seems like a perfect statement to make with the purpose of not looking like the roleblocker (and being targeted).
It seems by this reasoning, that there is currently one remaining Chicken mafioso and one remaining Lamb mafioso. The roleblocker is dead and the detective is alive (The Watcher).
Of course, there may be other explanations and interpretations of the events so far, such as people not sending in PM's. However, the interpretation of the events I have given seems to be a good bet.
This will be difficult to pull off, and we are all just https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUSDS9pkA2Y, but it can be done.
hear hear! Good stuff CA. Certainly alot more logical than what appears to be an elaborate attempt by 'The Watcher' to convince everyone of Andres' innocence :inquisitive:
And certainly more logical than my post below :D
really confused though. If Chaotix & Sarathos were Lambites then a third lambing would have been unlikely. And why no chickening last night?
Maybe mafias need two members to kill every night and can only kill every other night when reduced to membership of one?
I'm going to be limited with time this evening (GMT) and I don't want to miss a vote, so I'll have a think and post up in a couple of hours. If anyone has an opinion of who should be jailed, It'd be good to hear it. for now:
vote: Andres
reason: Having re-read the entire thread, I'm still just going on instinct
Sarathos
12-23-2008, 14:36
Then would you care to actually... you know... contribute something!?
Sure CA, I will jump right in with the guys (and girl) who killed me...
Sure CA, I will jump right in with the guys (and girl) who killed me...
I was just about to contest that, but yeah - I guess my abstain vote did help lock the door on you Sarathos. Even so, if you are town, surely you still want to help out. What say if I feed you a little pattie through the bars of your cell, you could tell me what you think of my vote for Andres?
Please, tell me, why would I fake a message from the Watcher?
Also, do you think I'm capable of faking this one as well:
"What is this?"
"Its from the watcher again."
The Watcher's Facts
===================
Askthepizzaguy - innocent (dead)
Chaotix - Lamb mafioso (dead)
Andres - innocent (alive)
khaan - innocent (dead)
The Watcher's Conclusions
=========================
These are based primarily on the writeups and my investigations but also on the happenings throughout the game
Game Mechanics:
***The three Mafia groups each have two members - This may seem like overkill to some, but let us remember that this was supposed to be a Large Mafia game which only got 17 signups.
***When one member dies, his group does not get to kill the following round and then resumes activity - Based on the fact that after Chaotix (confirmed Lamb mafioso) died there was no 'Lambed' kill
State of Game at the moment:
The Pork group died with Aries (meaning the first Pork mafioso probably died even earlier unnoticed and that roleblocking Aries on night two was redundant). The Chicken group had their first non kill night tonight meaning that Sarathos was a Chicken mafioso (khaan was innocent by investigation). Furthermore, by the nature of Beefy's PM's to me, the khaan investigation really stressed he was innocent wheras the Askthepizzaguy and Andres investigations were less forceful. I believe that this, in combination with the fact that the roleblocker did not show up in the latest write-up, points to khaan being the roleblocker. It should be noted that khaan criticized the roleblocker earlier. That seems like a perfect statement to make with the purpose of not looking like the roleblocker (and being targeted).
It seems by this reasoning, that there is currently one remaining Chicken mafioso and one remaining Lamb mafioso. The roleblocker is dead and the detective is alive (The Watcher).
Of course, there may be other explanations and interpretations of the events so far, such as people not sending in PM's. However, the interpretation of the events I have given seems to be a good bet.
This will be difficult to pull off, and we are all just https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUSDS9pkA2Y, but it can be done.
Is it me, or is the Watcher very Pizzaguy-esque in nature?
It's definitely written by a native speaker.
Vote : Rythmic
11 posts, 2 of which to say he's in, which leaves only 9 in game posts.
He has succesfully been flying under the radar. None of his posts really contain something substantial.
One post in particular is very interesting:
What the hell is going on. I cannot see how refusing to lynch is a good tactic, sure it may buy some more time, but how much? Maybe one day, if we're lucky?
But, again, I haven't found nor seen anything of worth that may incriminate anyone. So a no lynch maybe crazy and risky enough to perhaps work.
Refusing to take a stand = typical mafia behaviour.
Quintus.JC
12-23-2008, 21:44
Please, tell me, why would I fake a message from the Watcher?
Also, do you think I'm capable of faking this one as well:
The fact that you are among the innocents in the watcher's report does seem a motive, although too obvious and silly. Although not a native speaker, your English seems fluent enough to produce such a report.
Vote: Rythmic
I have my reasons, which I shall not disclose to the public. Anyone who wishes to know is welcome to PM me. :bow:
Reenk Roink
12-23-2008, 23:20
CA's analysis is good, but he left out what probably is a watcher post here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2086386&postcount=318) and definitely one here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2087333&postcount=353).
I do believe with the exception of the Sarathos post, the watcher's posts are all from one person and that that person is probably the detective.
The watcher's latest post is a very good analysis of how the game is run and what is the state of the game right now, and I am surprised that lady boudica thought it was confused and had only the motive to save Andres.
In fact, this letter (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2088861&postcount=406) is anonymous, but there is a good reason it came from the watcher, as it gives an "investigation" result as is the MO. It cleared Andres consistently with the watcher's rounds way before any suspicion on him.
On the native speaker issue, don't buy into that for a second. In Mafia V I used British English the entire time (ou instead of o, s instead of z, words like "flat" instead of "apartment", and European words like 'schwedentrunk') and I am a native American English speaker.
Anyway, I am surprised at the bandwagon on Rhythmic. While he isn't a bad choice, as some suspicious things have been said by him, I think Quintus.JC should be looked at far more. The most suspicious of them all is boudica, who disregarded the watcher and she also seemed not to have read his post.
Vote: boudica
CountArach
12-23-2008, 23:37
That is certainly legitimately The Watcher, so I would trust Andres.
Please, tell me, why would I fake a message from the Watcher?
My theory is that it is the sort of thing that an experienced Mafia player would attempt because it is clearly a risky move to put yourself out there like that. However, I find it highly unlikely that you would write that message. Still, The Fake Watcher message was written by a non-native speaker and this new one narrows down the list a bit.
Is it me, or is the Watcher very Pizzaguy-esque in nature?
Hmmm, I would say that the youtube links seem very un-ATPG. Also I asked Beefy if it was possible to send messages after you died and he said no, so that rules ATPG out.
Alright something that might be worth following is the uncapitalised 'watcher' in The Fake Message. Here are the people who have left it uncapitalised at some point, with links to the posts:
Andres - 208 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2083551&postcount=208)
Reenk Roink - 380 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2087883&postcount=380), 411 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2088911&postcount=411) and 444 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2091050&postcount=444).
Quintus - 365 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2087713&postcount=365), 367 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2087735&postcount=367), 393 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2088123&postcount=393), 443 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2090995&postcount=443)
Andres has been cleared, so it is down to Reenk (Who has a history of messing with the town's head at every opportunity), or Quintus. Strangely, both Quintus and Reenk continued to leave things uncapitalised after I alerted the town to it.
Alright, now for the stuff Reenk just posted...
The first message (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2086386&postcount=318) he links to (Message 6 from now) contains nothing but a YouTube link and hence only helps to confirm the cultural connection we knew. The second message (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=2087333&postcount=353) (Message 7) doesn't contribute much. The capitalisation of AND is important to provide emphasis, but I am the only person in this game who does that regularly as far as I know, so I'm not sure what that contributes.
On the native speaker issue, don't buy into that for a second. In Mafia V I used British English the entire time (ou instead of o, s instead of z, words like "flat" instead of "apartment", and European words like 'schwedentrunk') and I am a native American English speaker.
This is a good point, but I think that being able to differentiate between American and British English is one of those things which require a good grasp of the language in the first place. Regardless, it is probably better we don't get too close to revealing the identity of The Watcher as that would leave them open to be killed - I have my suspicions though.
Anyway, I am surprised at the bandwagon on Rhythmic. While he isn't a bad choice, as some suspicious things have been said by him, I think Quintus.JC should be looked at far more. The most suspicious of them all is boudica, who disregarded the watcher and she also seemed not to have read his post.
I agree that they would be two of the best lynches at this point. That said, I think that boudica is genuinely overwhelmed and uncertain. She has agreed with the longer, better thought-out posts throughout the game with the sole exception of The Watcher's. Quintus, on the other hand really piqued my suspicions with his non-existant explanation for the latest vote for Rythmic, and also the fact that he does not capitalise The Watcher.
Wait does the watcher say im pork, or that im innocent and that pork was killed before me, his report doesn't say whether i'm supposedly innocent or mafia, if CA saying care to contribuate was addressed at me then i dont see why seeing as im dead, i did enough when i was alive
Beefy usually has a soft spot for new ones, i still am suspicious about Andres, ATPG like reports and CA's overly pro-townie posts make them 2 minor suspects, with andres as a lead on, and perhaps boudica, as she does more agreeing than contribuating, and is voting for andres, if there mafia partners it could make a diversion, i will see if she changes her vote before the days end, if she does it can be seen suspiciously, but seeing as i'm not a confirmed innocent why bother taking my advice. :wall:
regardless i will continue
Suspicious
Andres
Boudica
Minor
ATPG
CA
CA has proven hes an accomplished writer, another candidate for this shadowy watcher role, though the watcher could be innocent quite possible, again beefy likes the new ones and boudica fits that role, plus we dont know her from previous games, girls are supposed to be more accomplished at languages, it's entirely possible.
ATPG has spoke less than usual and these over interrogative posts keep slipping through, similar to his style, yet he tells us not to listen to this posts, hmmm either an unhelpful massive cover up, or truly nothing to do with him.
Andres for reasons previous, plus his writing is no more detailed than before, as a moderator and a tentative mead hall guy i assume he could write like this too, but again the watcher could be simply a town role, so not all so clear.
Well i told you you weren't going to get rid of me so take that as you will, if any evidence comes to show my innocence, then this post may be something to build on, though the fact people still think i have overwhelming evidence against me, well i don't get how, deaths are clearly more random by the day anyway, and the whole bandwagon on me sparked from a little bit of spamish posting, something many can be accused of, which i soon turned into serious talking, besides if i was a dead mafia i wouldn't put myself out like this and bother typing pointless words, as a townie i still feel involved in the case
Tally:
Rythmic: 2 - (Andres, Quintus)
Andres: 1 - (boudica)
boudica: 1 - (Reenk Roink)
Beefy187
12-24-2008, 02:51
Beefy usually has a soft spot for new ones
What do you mean? Depending on the answer, your gonna get farted on your general direction :inquisitive:
EDIT: If I lived near you, I would've given you a hug Glyphz
Hahahahahahahahah.
Alright lynch me. Go on. I'm pure unadulterated, steak, beef loving town. I'd post my townie role PM, but I'm not sure it's allowed.
If I've been under the radar, what's boudica been? Off the map entirely.
Vote: boudica
[/Blazing Glory]
What do you mean? Depending on the answer, your gonna get farted on your general direction :inquisitive:
you have a way with words beefy, a way i can't quite put my finger on :inquisitive:
Funny, who you might find while lurking around...
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=36846&page=25 (Post # 735)
OMG!!! :laugh4:
Guess who else you can find there... :7jester:
LOL AND HE WAS QUOTING QUINTUS
ALARM BELLS!
(if quintus even in this game?)
CountArach
12-24-2008, 04:00
Lol, I am apparently mafia because I am too pro-town...
Well, look at ATPG in the Prometheus. It's certainly possible. Though I'm not getting that scummy vibe from you here. More likely, is that you are the supposed Watcher.
Lol, I am apparently mafia because I am too pro-town...
are you mad, pro-town roles often end up being mafia, they win towns support and act like a townie leader when really scum, i've seen pro-town be mafia in other games, and thats how u defend yourself? :shrug:
Beefy187
12-24-2008, 04:30
Is everyone going to be happy if I do a update now? Or should I extend it a bit more?
CountArach
12-24-2008, 04:56
Is everyone going to be happy if I do a update now? Or should I extend it a bit more?
Why would you listen to us? You're the host...
are you mad, pro-town roles often end up being mafia, they win towns support and act like a townie leader when really scum, i've seen pro-town be mafia in other games, and thats how u defend yourself? :shrug:
Why would I be defending myself? I'm dead... All I'm doing is providing primary evidence and then giving an opinion. People are able to have different opinions to me. You are just stifling debate.
Beefy187
12-24-2008, 05:02
Why would you listen to us? You're the host...
:laugh4:
I started writing the update then I realized the votes are still tied. :juggle2:
Ill come back again in few hours
Why would you listen to us? You're the host...
Why would I be defending myself? I'm dead... All I'm doing is providing primary evidence and then giving an opinion. People are able to have different opinions to me. You are just stifling debate.
ok lets be fair here, i forgot you were dead :clown:
seireikhaan
12-24-2008, 05:15
I know who the Watcher is. However, for the sake of His safety, I think I shall not mention Him by name.
Beefy187
12-24-2008, 07:48
Ill wait for 4 more hours so people in America can get there votes in.
At 6 pm in New York, I will conclude the phase what ever the votes are.
Rythmic: 2 - (Andres, Quintus)
boudica: 2 - (Reenk Roink, Rythmic)
Andres: 1 - (boudica)
Still to vote: glyphz, YLC
Was hoping to see who seem to be ganging up on 1 person, but IF there's 2 mafia left & IF they're from diff. mafia families, then it would be for naught...
...
Hopefully one of them (Rythmic, boudica) is mafia...
I'm a hard core beef eater. BEEF! Goddamnit!
i would have said boudica, though you'll do the opposite to what i say most likely :clown:
No offense to QJC, but...
Vote: Boudica
Preventing any chances of a tie
Vote: boudica
I'll just assume that Rythmic falls into the "stubborn hard core beef eaters," based on his defiance.
I'll also assume that Quintus is less suspicious based on the Night 1 summary:
Night 1 summery
.................................................. .................................................. ........................................
Quintus was preparing to leave his house when news reporter came in his house.
"Mr Quintus!! Soo good to see you! May I ask a few questions?"
"Umm... Actually I was about to go out to buy my beef"
"Sir! May I ask you a few questions?"
"Like I said..."
"I have a camera on you..."
"Fine go ahead.."
.................................................. .................................................. ..........................................
unvote: andres vote: Rythmic
Rythmic: 3 - (Andres, Quintus, boudica)
boudica: 4 - (Reenk Roink, Rythmic, YLC, glyphz)
I can see why you would have voted for me, but the only correct assessment of me is CountArachs.
FoS @ the bandwagoning scum who jumped on me over the last few posts:thumbsdown:
unvote: andres vote: Rythmic
Rythmic: 3 - (Andres, Quintus, boudica)
boudica: 4 - (Reenk Roink, Rythmic, YLC, glyphz)
I can see why you would have voted for me, but the only correct assessment of me is CountArachs.
FoS @ the bandwagoning scum who jumped on me over the last few posts:thumbsdown:
while i believe you could well be mafia, i would have expected them to explain themselves why they think your suspicious, sloppy play
Quintus.JC
12-24-2008, 12:08
Boudica's performance is quite immaculate, and I would say she's had a good game wether she is town or mafia. But the way she's been playing had none the less arose suspcion from the others; frequently in game, but never seems to attract too much attention. I have discussed with YLC about this over PMs, even if Rythmic get lynched this round, you'll be lynched the next day.
It seems you are dead anyway so I won't be switching my vote, anyone trying to make a tie and I will have to intervene.
I'm certainly very interested to see how this develops and to find out the role structure when it is complete.
I shall certainly seek out a couple more 'vanilla'-y games to get more experience, as I love this type of game ('Diplomacy' anyone? ;D)
Next time I play, I shall definitely be a little more formulaic in taking notes about different players contribution/voting trends etc. as i found it really difficult to translate all that suggestive data once the game was well under way.
Thanks for the comment Ares - I am still fairly convinced that you ARE mafia:laugh4: as you are the only player where there has been weighty - although still circumstantial - evidence against you.
Suffice to say - I am not mafia and those that are shall be very pleased about my imminent incarceration. Good luck town - I'll have my fingers crossed for those of you who are left, from behind the bars of beeftown gaol, while I watch the mafia strike again tonight.
Quintus.JC
12-24-2008, 12:10
I agree that they would be two of the best lynches at this point. That said, I think that boudica is genuinely overwhelmed and uncertain. She has agreed with the longer, better thought-out posts throughout the game with the sole exception of The Watcher's. Quintus, on the other hand really piqued my suspicions with his non-existant explanation for the latest vote for Rythmic, and also the fact that he does not capitalise The Watcher.
Non-existant? I told you I had my reasons and if you wish to know them you're welcome to ask over PMs, YLC did, and he knows why.
Beefy187
12-24-2008, 12:11
Day 5 summery
"The court found Boudica to be guilty of murder. Arrest her now!!"
"Aww but..."
"Yes? What do you want to say?"
"I'm innoc..."
"Oh yea. Thats what they all say. Just arrest her anyway."
Alive players 6/17
Glyphz
Andres
Reenk Roink
QJC
Rythmic
YLC
Killed 7/17
White_Eyes (Porked night 1)
Yoyoma (Lambed night 1)
ATPG (Chickened night 1)
Chaotix (Chickened night 2)
Tevash (Chickened night 3)
CA (Lambed night 3)
Seireikhaan (Lambed night 4)
Lynched (jailed) 3/17
777 Ares 777
Sarathos
boudica
WoGged 1/17
Bladeceath
Sorry im watching TV. This is the best I can do :sweatdrop:
Quintus.JC
12-24-2008, 12:12
Funny, who you might find while lurking around...
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=36846&page=25 (Post # 735)
Only 1 post?! That's lurking that is! :laugh:
OMG!!! :laugh4:
Guess who else you can find there... :7jester:
:idea2:
Boudica's performance is quite immaculate,
wow thanks! this is good fun - here's to many more!:2thumbsup:
I have discussed with YLC about this over PMs, even if Rythmic get lynched this round, you'll be lynched the next day.
FoS!
It seems you are dead anyway so I won't be switching my vote, anyone trying to make a tie and I will have to intervene. :help:
Deeply sorry Buodica, it seems you are innocent and I jumped the gun on voting for you. I should have recognized a few clues about you, and I should remind myself not to vote when sleepy.
That said, I am willing to agree with Glyphz right now unless you can clearly state in the open QJC why you find Rythmic suspicious so he can actually defend himself.
Beefy187
12-25-2008, 00:54
Waiting for one more order from teh Russian. Since yesterday was a long day, ill extend the night phase for another 12 hours.
Beefy187
12-25-2008, 12:28
Night 5 summery
Unfortunately for the town. The murders did not stop.
Tonights victim was Glyphz. Glyphz was coming back from the local shop when he was stopped by a man.
"Hey Glyphz wait up!!"
"You are...."
"You making dinner? Can I join you?"
"Sorry.. But considering the situation this town is in, I don't think thats a good idea. See I could be the killer."
"Are you?" the man asked.
"Haha.. No mate. But even if I am, I wouldn't tell you."
"Well... What we need in time like this... is some honesty. And luckily that Im honest enough to tell you that I'm a murderer."
"You... what... Why did you tell me??"
"It doesn't matter Glyphz. Because your about to taste my meat.. And from what I gathered from people in this town, they don't seem to like it.."
Glyphz was not fast enough to get away from the killer. He was caught, tackled to the ground and forced to eat unfamiliar meat.
"This is called Lamb Glyphz... Chew..."
Glyphz was lambed
.................................................................................................... ........................................
"Unfortunately body of Glyphz shows that the killers are still amongst you. One of you five gentleman! Now please discuss who that may be.."
Alive players 5/17
Andres
Reenk Roink
QJC
Rythmic
YLC
Killed 7/17
White_Eyes (Porked night 1)
Yoyoma (Lambed night 1)
ATPG (Chickened night 1)
Chaotix (Chickened night 2)
Tevash (Chickened night 3)
CA (Lambed night 3)
Seireikhaan (Lambed night 4)
Glyphz (Lambed Night 5)
Lynched (jailed) 3/17
777 Ares 777
Sarathos
boudica
WoGged 1/17
Bladeceath
Start day 6!!
Good Grief! Tackled and offed at the wee hours of Christmas...
Haven't even opened a present yet:san_cry:
And... MERRY CHRISTMAS!STOP!DON'TLOOK:tnt:...here.:shocked2:*whistles* You, OK?
There, there...
Sorry, I didn't get my orders in on time last night (Christmas Eve...)
I probably won't be able to make another post this round, so here is my role pm:
Greetings.. You fellows are Russians. You do like Beef steak and all... But you have something you love more then Beef steaks... Vodka!!
Vodka is the mystical liquid from north which can heal any diseases, blow away depression, slay a dragon... Basically anything you want to do.
Although, you arent exactly accepted in the community, you both wants to do something about the non beef eating infidels and best you can do is go around the town with your vodkas, healing people suffering in allergic reactions
Group: Town/ Medic
Goal: Eliminate all non beefers
Ability
1: Each night, each of you are able to save one player (so two per night) But you are not allowed to save each other as it looks Sus..
2. Also you are able to write an letter to any group (for example townies, detectives, pork mafia etc) or to any players anonymously by simply sending to the host. Also you can sign your name or other players name to make it look like its someone ales. Be creative. This can be done, any time of the day or night.
Vote : Rythmic
And also:
MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!
:birthday2:
EDIT: to avoid false reveals: my buddy was Askthepizzaguy. There are no other Russians.
Since were revealing PMs in public, I'll go next. I'm town, and I love steak.
Edit: Removed townie PM.
Reenk Roink
12-25-2008, 17:44
Please edit your posts. You aren't allowed to reveal PM's in this game.
Also Merry Christmas, will talk about the game later. :bow:
Quintus.JC
12-25-2008, 20:13
Guys, firstly PM quoting isn't allowed, secondly a townie's PM is already posted in page 2 by the host. So Andres and Rythmic's posts really doesn't matter.
Vote: Rythmic
Your playing style is identical to the one in Family Guy, you don't attract much attention, you haven't even received a vote before Andres noticed you. You got through the whole game without suspscion from others, directly under the radar.
Askthepizzaguy
12-25-2008, 20:28
Is it me, or is the Watcher very Pizzaguy-esque in nature?
To be honest, I haven't even been participating. I don't know why people are still discussing me, I am dead and not mafia, nor a very useful townie.
Askthepizzaguy
12-25-2008, 22:27
I'm dead and I still Vote: QJC :tongue2:
edit: joke.
Quintus.JC
12-25-2008, 22:33
Vote: QJC
May I ask why?
May I ask why?
Maybe I can ask you to PM me first?
Quintus.JC
12-25-2008, 22:35
You PMed me first to ask why I've placed my vote on Rythmic, I explained myself. Then we exchanged a fair few PMs.
Correct, but I disliked the general nature of your reasons for voting Rythmic - I'm sorry, but it was a good try.
Askthepizzaguy
12-25-2008, 22:38
I've always liked mafia that try to win the game using convincing private messages. It's deviousness encased in secrecy.
Quintus.JC
12-25-2008, 22:39
I am willing to reveal my reasons for voting Rythmic, as long as everyone will keep it within this game - Fillet Royale.
Askthepizzaguy
12-25-2008, 22:41
But the Watcher doesn't seem to want to do that...
Quintus.JC
12-25-2008, 22:44
@ATPG & YLC: everything you see in this thread, remains in this thread, deal?
Askthepizzaguy
12-25-2008, 22:46
I wouldn't do what you're proposing to do.
First of all, it's not convincing, and second, it potentially ruins a different game for some.
Quintus.JC
12-25-2008, 22:47
Well heck, no one listens to me in this game! Why do you all think I'm lying? Because of the PMs, I'll bloody go public I will.
Askthepizzaguy
12-25-2008, 22:51
Now, now... you shouldn't do that. If you were telling the truth, your partner suffers in the other game, violating the forum guidelines for mafia game play. Players are expected to compete with the goal of winning the game, otherwise it ruins the game for others.
I can dig it out if necessary.
Second, if you did do so, then I would suspect it's further fiction, because it might be ever more misleading data. Your proposed course of action smells desperate and stabs a teammate in one game to satisfy another... and that's if it's honest.
Quintus.JC
12-25-2008, 22:52
I am actually town in this game! PM obviously isn't working at all, what do you propose me to do then?
Askthepizzaguy
12-25-2008, 23:22
Well, it's just a game so it's no big deal either way.
My that ham was delicious... mmm.... there are some traditions worth keeping. *burp*
I mean, if you're townie in this game, then you are. No biggie. I find that the players that are most cautious about losing are typically mafia. Think about it... townies are willing to do just about anything to win, but they take it as a matter of course that some will die, and they may still lose.
Mafia, on the other hand, tend to play very cautiously (myself excluded) or play risky behind the scenes while always cautioning town about the consequences of such and such an action. But it's bad psychology; town isn't afraid of losing, mafia is.
Quintus.JC
12-25-2008, 23:25
The following Spoiler is my anaylsis of Rythmic in both Family Guy and Fillet Royale, the Spoiler tag exists for a reason, the information in the spoiler stays in this thread only. :bow:
Reading the following message would ruin Family Guy Mafia, so don’t if you are still in it.
Rythmic is the teddy snatcher in Family Guy, I’m the serial killer that has been cooperating with him along the game. Kudos to Rythmic because he has played brilliantly in Family Guy, fooled everyone. Got into the circle of trust. Now he is on his way to win the game. Me – as he’s partial partner, knows his method in Family Guy, not getting noticed, and it has proved successful. In this game, Rythmic has applied identical tactics… and it has worked all the same, the town is behind his feet. Everyone thinks he’s innocent, and anyone who tries to accuse Rythmic gets voted out. Well now I’m accusing him!
List of all of Rythmic’s posts in Family Guy, apart from the post where he basically said ‘IN’
I am sooo confused... I'm a bit pressed for time currently. I'll be back later to cast a vote, and actually try and understand what has happened/is happening?!
Ok, it's late here and I need to get to bed. But, before I do that I'll cast my vote. Although I hate to bandwagon, the last couple posts are rather convincing at pointing towards Shlin28 aka Brian. It does afterall make sense in terms of the show that Brian would snatch Rupert.
Vote: Shlin28
Night y'all. :bow:
Tally:
Shlin28- 5(Askthepizzaguy, Yoyoma1910, Shlin28, WhiteEyes, Rythmic)
El Diablo-1(Chaotix)
ATPG-1(Khaan)
White_eyes-1(El Diablo)
Well there is anywhere between 9-16 hours of time difference between me and the rest of you, so it's hard to make a timely addition or response. By the time I get here, I usually don't bother adding anything, since well it's all been said.
Alright to the write up. This caught my eye:
To me this seems to say that the Doctor was targetting Quagmire, but he couldn't since he was killed in the previous segment with a bullet to the head. Now, I don't know about y'all but to me this seems to point out that there are two killers, which we already knew, but the two killers don't know who each other are. Otherwise I'd find it unlikely that they'd target the same person.
Time to cast my vote. I'm fine with the role block. If it'll clear me then sure.
Vote: Seireikhaan
OOC: My laptop's display broke yesterday, I had a big response planned, by that got lost while trying to fix my computer. Give me a second to go over what I've missed.
Short version of what I did before, picked clues from the write up:
The role makes sense as to why he didn't get WoG'd but it sounds distinctly scummy to me, I think that taking a neutral backseat is at the least distinctly useless for a townie. Why would a townie have the ability to abstain, the ability to lynch is a townie's only ability. Odd, very odd.
My computer rather unexpectedly gave up the ghost
Smells of trying to go under the radar
I also disagree with his analysis, I don't see why he keeps pointing at El Diablo
I'm unsure about Chaotix
May be related to the reference about the Doctor working on disguises?
Ah, woops, I didn't realise you didn't want me to stop using my ability altogether. The wording of your PM threw me off. No worries, I can understand why you don't want me to use it, it's not the most useful of abilities anyway.
The evidence against the chicken is very very strong. Which reminds me I have to vote, and it's a pretty easy choice, again.
Vote: Quintus
Also I think seireikhaan is just trying to disrupt the flow of play, I really don't think his references or statements are particularily helpful.
I have to agree, Sarathos's style of play and "ability' hasn't sat well with me these last couple days.
Vote: Sarathos
I think he's questioning the reliability of your sources and the credibility of your information.
The write up is interesting. A bit more overt this time. Was Chris scum? I damn well hope so, otherwise we're in for some rough times.
Edit: Why was I with Choatix, aka Tom Tucker!?
Alright, look at the last night write up...
That may be a long shot, but could it relate to the fact there was a hamper of body parts, etc in the Griffin House?
Yeh, I found that just as perplexing.
All of Rythmic’s posts on Fillet Royale
Lol, I didn't realise I joined twice. Woops.
Anyway.... random vote: Chaotix.
Random vote, nothing suspicious there.
Hmmm, a public message like that looks like someone trying to pin suspicion away from themselves onto CA.
And, I'm having a bit of difficulty getting a read on some of the newer players. Some unusual playing styles so far.
Nothing important here.
Ok, what is Aries trying to do? Seems like a crazy, crazy approach to this game!
I have a bad gut feeling about Andres. He's sneaky.
So, Vote: Andres.
Gone with gut feeling, voted for Andres who one of the Russian protector.
Tough love. ~:flirt:
Siting Aries’ overwhelming votes.
This is not good. There are three maf on the loose, and we haven't had an effective lynch yet. Damn.
Nothing contributory, just an comment he made.
Invisible mode or not has nothing to do with being mafia or not, it's just a privacy option.
A reply to a earlier question, again have little to do with the actual game and seems rather he is merely trying to say something without attracting any attention to himself.
Why did the lamb mafia not kill anyone on night 2? Maybe they forgot? Or maybe they can only kill every two nights?
Stating the obvious, something I get voted for (Golden Rules).
Good analysis CA. :bow:
Again a short post with the purpose of avoiding unwanted attention from the town.
Hahahahahahahahah.
Alright lynch me. Go on. I'm pure unadulterated, steak, beef loving town. I'd post my townie role PM, but I'm not sure it's allowed.
If I've been under the radar, what's boudica been? Off the map entirely.
Vote: boudica
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Boudica has been under the radar, but so are you.
I'm a hard core beef eater. BEEF! Goddamnit!
Since were revealing PMs in public, I'll go next. I'm town, and I love steak.
The town PM was posted by Beefy on page 2, so that doesn’t prove anything.
Compare his posts in Fillet Royale with Family Guy, its very similar if not identical. And no one notices this!
Look, just as Andres has pointed out; Rythmic has been living completely under the town’s radar, everyone over looks him, its almost feels like he isn’t even playing. Before Andres voted for Rythmic no one has even voted for Rythmic. He has skipped through everything unnoticed, with short posts to merely remind us he is there. And when someone actually accuses him with sufficient reasons, everyone thinks that person is lying and they want to lynch me. Maybe I should just do what Rythmic does; make obvious points only and don’t provoke anyone so I could remain in the shadows… How could the town still remain oblivion about this?! So I am getting voted for all this. There, I've said everything! Do what you wish now everyone.
Askthepizzaguy
12-25-2008, 23:30
Well that only compounds my suspicions.
Why would any of the above make you innocent in this game? It doesn't. It doesn't prove anything, it merely correlates past mafia performances with present games. And that is NOT a reliable indicator, as we all already know.
Your analysis may indeed be valid, but that doesn't mean you're innocent here.
So I am getting voted for all this. There, I've said everything! Do what you wish now everyone.
A more common than not mafia gambit. Deliver an impressive speech on your deathbed, and accept your fate, hoping the drama of it all will convince people. I've warned people what drama usually indicates.
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