unit source material

[pyrrhus17]

High I just started playing 1.2 and I was wondering what source material do you use for a paticular Army ? and Do you have a list of your sources for each somewhere like books etc for fans of Pyrrhus or selucid units etc . Sorry if someone has already asked this but I want to read more on the hellenistic Armies and I want good books . Patrick

[MeinPanzer]

Most of the EB units are reconstructed from original evidence, that is from archaeological sources published in scholarly works. If you want some good books on the Hellenistic militaries dealing with arms and military equipment, look at the two volumes written by Nick Sekunda for Montvert Publications, titled "Seleucid and Ptolemaic Reformed Armies 168-145 BC." Volume 1 is on the Seleucid army and volume 2 is on the Ptolemaic army. Hellenistic Bactria is featured in "The Armies of Bactria 700 BC - 450 AD" by Valerii P Nikonorov, while some Osprey titles also deal with the Antigonid Macedonian army (just search their site). For a more scholarly work, you can also consult Sekunda's "Hellenistic Infantry Reform in the 160's BC."

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Europa Barbarorum Bibliography

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=70698&highlight=eb+books

[pyrrhus17]

I have all three of those book and Love them thanks for the suggestions and my osprey collection is looking more like a store front as I buy more and more (I wish Nick Sekunda had more published. I feal that his book on early roman and Italian armies is really on the mark with his theory/interpitation of the Samnites fighting technique . (it is also largly ignored in the wargaming and hitorical comunity he would have had a better reaction if he said they came from space instead of that the roman had copied their sword/pilum fighting from them as well as the etruscans . thanks for the Bib I am off to get some books .Patrick

[MeinPanzer]

I have all three of those book and Love them thanks for the suggestions and my osprey collection is looking more like a store front as I buy more and more (I wish Nick Sekunda had more published. I feal that his book on early roman and Italian armies is really on the mark with his theory/interpitation of the Samnites fighting technique . (it is also largly ignored in the wargaming and hitorical comunity he would have had a better reaction if he said they came from space instead of that the roman had copied their sword/pilum fighting from them as well as the etruscans . thanks for the Bib I am off to get some books .Patrick

His theories have been thoroughly discussed among the "wargaming community" as far as I know (see, for instance, the discussions on the AncMed and Tabulae Novae Exercituum yahoo groups), but they have been met with some criticism for a number of reasons.

[pyrrhus17]

oh yes I have read some of those. I think its a possiblity and old historians minds change like rusted shut gears move .along those lines I always thought that it was interesting that no one has ever done a study on pyrrhus's sicillia campaign to find out what influcence if any his troops might have had on Carthages units or local units . First time meeting a macedonian sysytem in the flesh or if they Carthage had any contact with the ptolemaic army etc . Everyone dimisses these possible cultural exchanges granted this is all possiblity but it took historians years to accept viking landings outside of europe proper .