Minor 1.2 "impostor" problem...

[Irishmafia2020]

I just have one minor bug to report from 1.2. As Baktria, all of my starting family members received the trait "Recruited General" on turn 2. That meant that my initial family members could not govern any settlements throughout their entire career without receiving the "Impostor" trait with all of its penalties. My king therefore could not govern any settlements, and neither could his sons. Fortunately, this only affected the first generation of generals, and the rest of the family could govern normally... Still, I assume this is a bug!

[bovi]

That's odd. They all have the FamilyMember trait from descr_strat, so shouldn't get RecruitedGeneral. I'll check in game.

[bovi]

No, they're all good and don't get the RecruitedGeneral trait after two turns. Are you sure you haven't installed a submod that screws up descr_strat?

[Irishmafia2020]

I am running off of the BI.exe, but otherwise I am not using any modifications. I will check and see the desc_strat file to find out if my family members have the "family-member" trait before I start my next campaign. It is good to see that this is not a widespread bug, but rather may be caused by my own installation...

[Victor1234]

I have the same problem with Carthage, but only with three of my family members. The three sons of the starting faction leader all get the recruited general trait, but nobody else does.

I am using standard EB 1.2 with no sub-mods, but configured to use BI.

[Victor1234]

Hanno, Carthalo and Gisgo are the recruited generals in my game. Here's what the descr_strat spits out for them:

; City: Ippone
; Region: Mashiliem
; --------------------
character Gisgo ofcarthago, named character, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 17, , x 59, y 102
traits NaturalIntelligence 3 , NaturalCharisma 2 , NaturalEnergy 2 , Selflessness 4 , Temperament 1 , Loyalty 4 , TurnsAlive 1 , QarthadastimKarthadastei 1 , GisgoBiography 1 , CommandExperience 2 , GoodTactician 1 , GoodDefender 1 , BadAdministrator 1 , BadAttacker 1 , BadRecruiter 1 , BlackBileHumour 1 , NumAncillariesAcquired 2
ancillaries merchant , spear_carrier
army
unit carthaginian cavalry generals bodyguard exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit carthaginian infantry mishteret izrahim feenikim exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

; City: Lepki
; Region: Syrthim
; --------------------
character Hanno ofcarthago, named character, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 26, , x 101, y 76
traits NaturalIntelligence 4 , NaturalCharisma 3 , NaturalEnergy 6 , Selflessness 2 , Temperament 2 , Loyalty 3 , TurnsAlive 3 , QarthadastimKarthadastei 1 , HannoBiography 1 , Energetic 3 , GoodAdministrator 1 , GoodTactician 1 , HarshJustice 1 , GoodTaxman 1 , Cheapskate 1 , AntiBarcid 1 , NumAncillariesAcquired 2 , FirstBorn 1
ancillaries merchant , family_retainer
army
unit carthaginian cavalry generals bodyguard exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit carthaginian infantry mishteret izrahim feenikim exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit carthaginian infantry mishteret izrahim feenikim exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


; City: Karali
; Region: Sardin
; --------------------
character Carthalo ofcarthago, named character, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 18, , x 79, y 113
traits NaturalIntelligence 4 , NaturalCharisma 6 , NaturalEnergy 2 , Selflessness 2 , Temperament 5 , Loyalty 2 , TurnsAlive 1 , CommandExperience 1 , QarthadastimKarthadastei 1 , BadAttacker 1 , GoodAdministrator 1 , GoodTrader 1 , Girls 1
ancillaries clerk
army
unit carthaginian cavalry generals bodyguard exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit carthaginian infantry mishteret izrahim feenikim exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0



As an example, here is someone who got the proper trait (family member):


; City: Mastia
; Region: Bastetania
; --------------------
character Hasdrubal ofcarthago, named character, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 21, , x 35, y 111
traits NaturalIntelligence 4 , NaturalCharisma 5 , NaturalEnergy 2 , Selflessness 3 , Temperament 2 , Loyalty 3 , TurnsAlive 2 , CommandExperience 2 , QarthadastimKarthadastei 1 , GoodTactician 1 , GoodDefender 1 , GoodAdministrator 2 , Handsome 1 , BadSiegeDefender 1 , PublicFaith 1 , NumancillariesAcquired 6
ancillaries high_priest_of_baal , priestess_of_astarte , merchant , accountant , astrologer , clerk
army
unit carthaginian cavalry generals bodyguard exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit carthaginian infantry mishteret izrahim feenikim exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit iberian infantry light milites exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

[bovi]

Have you considered the chance that "configuring for BI" makes changes to descr_strat? Mine says:


character Gisgo ofcarthago, named character, command 0, influence 0, management 0, subterfuge 0, age 17, , x 59, y 102
traits NaturalIntelligence 3 , NaturalCharisma 2 , NaturalEnergy 2 , Selflessness 4 , Temperament 1 , Loyalty 4 , TurnsAlive 1 , QarthadastimKarthadastei 1 , GisgoBiography 1 , CommandExperience 2 , GoodTactician 1 , GoodDefender 1 , BadAdministrator 1 , BadAttacker 1 , BadRecruiter 1 , BlackBileHumour 1 , NumAncillariesAcquired 2 , FamilyMember 1
ancillaries merchant , spear_carrier
army
unit carthaginian cavalry generals bodyguard exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
unit carthaginian infantry mishteret izrahim feenikim exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0

[Victor1234]

That seems to be the case. I've figured out the problem....and yes, it's my own stupid fault, not a bug. :oops:

I did step by step what it says to do here, like I've done for every EB since 1.0:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=1433613&postcount=85

As you can see, it doesn't involve changing anything in descr_strat, only copying the folder it's in. However, after checking the EB 1.2 files, they do have the correct descr_strat.

So what happened was that I did this BI setup guide when only EB 1.1 was installed, and then when EB 1.2 was installed over it, it obviously didn't overwrite the new barbarian_invasion folder created in order to let me play BI. Checking the EB\Data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign folder which contains descr_strat confirms that the descr_strat in that folder is correct like yours, but the one in EB\Data\world\maps\campaign\barbarian_invasion is not correct, since it was copied from the EB 1.1 install.

Whoops, sorry. :clown: