The Golden Rule [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

According to the rules, I can begin recruiting now. Sign up here... the game will begin shortly after Beefy's game ends.




The Golden Rule
Small Mafia game
13~ players

Hosted by Askthepizzaguy



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The Story:
..........December, 2029.

..........The Federal Reserve Bank of New York has been infiltrated by a dedicated gang of international criminals bent on taking the grandest prize of them all; the largest repository of gold in the United States. This elite group has been preparing for two decades to pull off this heist, taking down smaller targets here and there over the years, slowly gaining the technical knowledge and experience necessary, as well as the finances to prepare the perfect getaway.

..........A senior diplomat from Beijing travelled to the United States to discuss making a large deposit in the most secure bank in the world. Somewhere over the Pacific Ocean, this diplomat met his untimely end. However, the meeting went on as scheduled. The Gang of 13 had the resources to hire the most experienced plastic surgeon in the world, and pay him quite handsomely for his services. The face was altered, and the fingerprints were removed from the man from Beijing and placed on someone else. Finally, a single eye was removed and replaced with another. The end result was someone who looked exactly like the Chinese diplomat, had the same fingerprints, and the same retina.

..........On the inside, they had a man. Someone who had served his country for decades, and was given the same lousy pay and terrible pension, and was harassed one too many times by government bureaucrats. He wanted out of his boring, tedious life... and he wanted the retirement he earned and deserved. When budget cuts eliminated his pension, that was the final straw. He knew all the security systems, because he was a master at catching criminals. He was no mere security guard, he was the facility's top counter-infiltrations expert.

..........There was the matter of transportation. Gold is very heavy, and it would not be worth the time and investment to get away with merely a truckload or two of solid gold. This was an expensive, massive operation, and the equipment alone was worth more than one truck's worth of gold. They needed a ship. That's where the Somali pirates came in.

..........An oil tanker was hijacked off of the coast of Africa, but they again had a man on the inside. Once the pirates had taken over the oil tanker, the agent killed all the pirates with some toxic darts under the cover of night. Before the ransom demands were issued, the vessel was already back on course for New York. No one even knew the vessel had been hijacked.

..........The oil itself was sold to the very same customers, and the gang of 13 enjoyed the rewards that came with that kind of money. But the oil was worth only several hundred million dollars. A tanker filled with gold bullion would be worth hundreds of billions of dollars. As it happens, they already had several buyers for the gold. They would be travelling to Egypt, where the gold would be loaded on freight trains and sent to the various African totalitarian regimes who would buy the gold at a reduced price, giving them an instant profit, and relieving the gang of 13 of the burden of carrying and storing all that gold, in exchange for a deposit in several bank accounts. Some in the Cayman Islands, some in Switzerland, some in Africa.

..........China and Russia were also interested in the gold, and some of it was sent via freight train across the Middle East. More currency was deposited into the bank accounts of the gang of 13, and yet more of the weight was lifted from their shoulders. Finally, the last of the gold would remain on the tanker, which was headed for Dubai. The tanker itself and the gold would be sold to a consortium of Arab shieks at a bargain, and the Bank of Dubai would always have money waiting for the gang of 13, accumulating interest.

..........The end result was a master plan which finally would give the gang of 13 nearly unlimited money, in secured bank accounts all across the world, and the protection of the Russian and Chinese governments. There would never be any extrication back to the United States, there would never be any trial, or any jail time. The bottom line is, everyone in the gang of 13 would be filthy rich and their identities would be altered surgically so that they could never be traced back to this heist.

..........The only tricky part was getting the gold from the Reserve to the tanker. For that, a forged acquisitions request was sent and processed by the head of security at the Federal Reserve. The paperwork was massive and authentic looking, and the man in charge of verifying the authentication was the most trusted man inside the vault, the master of counter-infiltration.

..........Several armoured vehicles would make trips to the Reserve, over the span of one week. Because of the security systems, decades went by without a single bar of gold being misplaced. Because of budget cutbacks, there were only a handful of people watching the vault at any given time. Because the withdrawl had all the necessary paperwork and the approval of the man in charge of security, none of the guards noticed anything suspicious. It was just another routine transaction. Gold bars went in and out of the vault all the time, but only when it was authorized.

..........The plan was risky, but thanks to bloated bureaucracy and rank and file complacency, the transaction was nearly automatic. With the arrival of the Chinese diplomat, all of the guards were informed that a large transaction was taking place. None of them questioned the removal of the gold, and several of them even assisted in loading the armoured trucks. Whom else could be trusted to transport such precious material? The Chinese diplomat passed the palm reader and the retinal scan, and gained access to the vault.

..........Distracted by the negotiations of this faux emissary, and due to the hush-hush nature of operations, most of the actual guards were not informed of the precise nature of the supposed deal, and when the head of security and other bureaucrats were engaged in closed door talks, everything seemed to be in order. All the security systems in the world could not prevent someone with the proper paperwork and security clearances from removing gold from the vault.

..........So much money spent on the security systems themselves, and not enough was spent of the people working inside, whose loyalty could be bought for an enormously high price...

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..........The transaction was successful, and the gold bullion was loaded onto the stolen oil tanker by armoured truck. The Chinese diplomat shook hands with the head of vault security, and all the other bureaucrats assigned to the visit. 500 billion dollars in gold bullion had been stolen right in front of everyone's eyes, in spite of layers of countermeasures and the finest security systems in the world. Just another simple transaction, done by the most secure Banking system in the world.

..........But not everyone in charge of oversight was blind to what was going on. In fact, these events were being monitored by the FBI. But no one in the department knew about the stolen oil tanker, or where the gold was heading once it left the Reserve, or if the transaction was legitimate or not until after the final night.

A Federal Agent was dispatched as soon as the paperwork was revealed to be fraudulent.

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..........Among the Gang itself, all was not well... years of working together had strained their relations, and some former members of their group had been taken down by Federal Agents. Some had turned on them and tried to blackmail them before the operation took place, threatened to blow the cover off of their scheme unless they got a bigger cut of the gold. They were promptly shot, and their bodies were never found.

..........But everyone in the group was certain they had a traitor among them, someone so obsessed with greed that they would not be satisfied with the billions they were promised. On the eve of their getaway, one of their ranks was murdered. Suspicions ran rampant.

..........On this tanker filled with enough gold to buy and sell entire nations, the remaining 13 members of this group convened to decide who among them was the traitor... and who among them might have been an informant to the FBI... perhaps, even an FBI agent undercover. They watched each other very carefully. Any FBI agent would not simply kill them, he would be waiting for the appropriate moment to contact headquarters, gathering information every night. But if cornered, the FBI agent could use deadly force to defend himself.


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..........The Gang of 13 met in the daytime, and decided amongst themselves who had betrayed them. That person was determined by a vote, and the unlucky winner was shot to death on the spot. Everyone brought an automatic weapon with them for safety, and if someone tried to shoot their weapon without the Gang's approval, they would be gunned down as well.

..........At night, each person locked themselves inside their cabin, making night murders difficult. The traitor waited for the appropriate moment to make his move. If he could survive long enough, he would not be so outnumbered, and he could gun down the others.

..........Over the cold waters of the Atlantic, on this stolen tanker filled with gold, the Gang of 13 would be competing for their very lives, and their vast fortune. They were all about to experience... the Golden Rule.

Rules and Information:

No quoting the host's private messages. You can quote one another and communicate outside this thread. Suicide is not allowed, and everyone must post and vote every day phase.

YOU MUST VOTE. ABSTAINS ARE NO LONGER ALLOWED. VOTE: NO LYNCH IS ACCEPTABLE.

This is not your typical mafia game, and night phases will be uneventful for the most part. The traitor or traitors will have difficulty killing anyone. Simply make the correct guess and you are home free. As the game progresses however, it will become more dangerous.

Night actions must be sent in during the day phase. Extensions may be granted, but for the most part, the night phase itself will be skipped and the results will simply be posted.



List of players

Yoyoma1910
Shlin28
Quintus.JC
Aries777777
WhiteEyes
El Diablo
Beefy187
GeneralHankerchief
Chaotix27
Reenk Roink
Seireikhaan
woad&fangs
TevashSzat
YLC

Possible roles:

explosives expert
ex-SWAT
false diplomat
forgery expert
Armored truck driver
Tanker Hijacker
communications expert
computer engineer
security guard
plastic surgeon
accountant
foreign liason
mastermind
ex-marine

[Yoyoma1910]

I like danger.




December, 2029.



:clown::robot:Will we get lasers?:robot::clown:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Sure, why not. But you may want to stick with your sub-machine guns, they fire more rapidly.

Welcome to the game, Yoyoma!~

[shlin28]

IN!

[Quintus.JC]

In.

[Thermal]

joining, im in no org mafia games currently, through elemination or lack of game creation, the sooner we start the better :balloon2:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Thanks Shlin, Quintus, and Aries for joining. :bow:

[ULC]

:clown:

[Yoyoma1910]

Alright Pizza, I have one but last question before I officially join your game.


Since we're on a ship, and super villans with lasers...



Instead of shooting just each other, couldn't we catch some angry mutant seabass, and attach our lasers to their foreheads?:quiet:

[White_eyes:D]

I am IN and I second Yoyoma's plan to attach laser beams to the mutant sea basses head's:clown:

[Thermal]

I am IN and I second Yoyoma's plan to attach laser beams to the mutant sea basses head's:clown:

no attach it to the manshees! seeing as el diablo likes them so much

[El Diablo]

no attach it to the manshees! seeing as el diablo likes them so much

No it's Manatees - and they are good for helping write th storyline.

:embarassed: nevermind..


Oh IN if numbers permit.

[Beefy187]

In :2thumbsup:

[Thermal]

No it's Manatees - and they are good for helping write th storyline.

:embarassed: nevermind..


Oh IN if numbers permit.

:laugh4:

[GeneralHankerchief]

I'm in, but won't really be active until after Tuesday.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Thanks everyone for signing up.

Between 4 and 6 slots left.

[Beefy187]

speaking of sign up... You gonna join my large game? :inquisitive:

Jokes... You don't have to :clown:

PS: my game might take a while to end..

[Askthepizzaguy]

Looks complicated. I tend to shy away from the multiple mafia family ones... I dont have a strategy for those games yet.

However, if you would kindly private message me and explain the general idea to me as if I were a five-year old, I may feel better about joining.

[Chaotix]

In.

[Thermal]

In.

care to try mine? i tried your first one!


(the sympathy vote :clown: )

I'm in, but won't really be active until after Tuesday.

and as the person who brought mafia here, im sure you'd be happy to see if i can do it proud or not by joining mine!

( :juggle2: )

sorry for the spam, but i only need 3 more slots :sweatdrop:

[Reenk Roink]

:bow:

[seireikhaan]

:charge:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I just need one more person, but if more people volunteer in time, it could be 2 or 3 more.

[woad&fangs]

:throws fedora into the ring:
~:flirt:

[Yoyoma1910]

:throws fedora into the ring:
~:flirt:


Who are you, Marlin Brando?

[woad&fangs]

All quality criminal activity must be accompanied by a fedora. It is what seperates the professionals from the pickpockets, and I sir, am a professional:toff:

[Thermal]

with white hair, woad skin paint and the look of a of a... god forbid a barbarian! :clown:

[TevashSzat]

Oh, what the heck, I'll join too

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ok I have 14. I think that's plenty.

[Beefy187]

Are you starting or are you going to wait for my game to finish? :sweatdrop:

[ULC]

Are you starting or are you going to wait for my game to finish? :sweatdrop:

It would help if you did finish your game and all :whip:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Are you starting or are you going to wait for my game to finish? :sweatdrop:

I will be asking to start the game now.

I'd actually like to send out the role Pm's tonight, even if the game cannot begin.

[Beefy187]

It would help if you did finish your game and all :whip:

Sorry YLC. If only I can drop a huge meteoroid in the middle of the palace, killing everyone in the little puny world I created...

But I rather finish this well as I could in order to satisfy everyone. As I did ruin the game for few players

But ill get working :yes:

[Askthepizzaguy]

No mods responded yet to my request to begin the game now.

Possibly in two days. Please keep watching.

[ULC]

Please remove me from the sign up.

[Sigurd]

No mods responded yet to my request to begin the game now.

Possibly in two days. Please keep watching.
I read your PM... But this should be decided by the moderators that control the lists (Andres or Seamus). I just make sure you all behave. :whip:

[Andres]

ATPG, you got mail :bow:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Thank you.

As requested, and as indicated by the rules, I shall be patient. :bow:

[ULC]

Could you be merciful ATPG and put me back in? I had issues with Vista, the registry, and connecting to the internet, and truly thought my computer was finished until Linux kinda saved it (Vista installer hated my HD for some awful reason) adn was able to format it through it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Of course. I trust you will be staying with us until the end this time?

[ULC]

Vista appears stable, so, yes :wink::beam:

[Sigurd]

I guess Pizzaguy can PM Andres and Seamus to get this baby going now that Beefy's game is over.

[Beefy187]

I guess Pizzaguy can PM Andres and Seamus to get this baby going now that Beefy's game is over.

Finally over :sweatdrop:

[Andres]

This can start now.

Have fun :2thumbsup:

[ULC]

Yes! Finally!

Vote: ATPG

...oh, wait...um:sweatdrop:

[Thermal]

Yes! Finally!

Vote: ATPG

...oh, wait...um:sweatdrop:

:laugh4:


Ummm, i'll try not to get myself in the lime like to much on this game :beam:

So, without doing any hasty voting, it would be nice to see who everyone is :yes: (only i don't know myself yet)

[Quintus.JC]

Just in case this thread needs a second checking in... I am HERE. :bow:

[Chaotix]

Let's get this heist on the road!

Or... um, ocean, I suppose.

[White_eyes:D]

Awaiting PM....:bow:

[Quintus.JC]

In play?! Where's my PM??? :inquisitive:

[TevashSzat]

Umm......same question, where my PM?

[Thermal]

ATPG is online, so notification would be pleasant :bow:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Greetings all.

Sorry for the delay. As you know I've been working very hard to annihilate some scum in the Family Guy game. We shall see how that goes.

RULES additions and modifications.

You cannot quote the host's private messages. At all.

You can claim a role, but you cannot quote me.

The dead cannot talk or communicate with anyone about this game.

____________________________


Voting for the "lynch" will happen as scheduled, and I need everyone with night actions to get them to me by the end of each day phase.

You have 3 days per day phase.

This game is not your typical mafia game. I highly encourage everyone to vote and discuss. Clues will be scarce, as I usually give you oodles of clues. You must solve this mystery if you are serious about winning, or your chances will be minimized.

Rules may be added later at my discretion. Read every post I make, ok? Pms going out.

EDIT: If you are done voting and want the day phase to end earlier than scheduled, just add that to your vote. As such:

Vote: Askthepizzaguy, end Day early.

Or at any time post:

End Day early.

Edit Edit:

Do not edit posts with your vote in them.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Roles are being sent out now. Give me a few minutes.

Please follow my rules exactly for this game. Certain types of infractions will result in expulsion, unfortunately. Others will simply get a warning.

[Askthepizzaguy]

All Roles have been sent out. Remember to read all of the rules, in the opening post and every post I make, please. You have a gang of 14 now, due to unexpected popularity of the game.


Day One:




CLASSIFIED FBI LOG
Agent 824, Headquarters.


The Gang of 14 was en route to Africa, the tanker loaded up with more gold that any one person could count. Each of the crew members were certain to live a life of luxury, security, and prosperity from now on.

They were certain by now that the FBI had found out about them. It was also possible that they were being watched, and that their position was being reported back to headquarters by an agent. But they could not be sure.

They did not know who they could trust, and they were certain they had a traitor among them. Was it the munitions expert, or their "diplomat"? Could it be the security systems analyst, or was it their driver?

They would lock themselves in their rooms at night, and vote on who the traitor was during the daytime. Everyone was armed with a sub-machine gun.

They met for the first time since the massive heist. What follows is a transcript of their communications and activities.

[GeneralHankerchief]

So now we're a group of Senators that forged a bipartisan agreement to end judicial filibusters for the 109th Congress in return for the dropping of some of President Bush's nominees for the federal bench? :smartass:

Vote: Ares

[Beefy187]

Vote:YLC

Hosts most hated player :clown:

[TevashSzat]

Vote: El Diablo

How the hell can we trust someone called the devil???

Also, Tally:

Ares: 1 (GH)
YLC: 1 (Beefy)
El Diablo: 1 (Tevash)

[Thermal]

Vote: Ares

I assume your meatballing at this stage?

[Yoyoma1910]

Who's the dirty rat that killed my brother?

[woad&fangs]

vote: whiteeyes :D
Because I have no idea who the heck you are :balloon3:

[Askthepizzaguy]

The original post has been modified to highlight the rules and update certain information. The story part has not changed.

14 players, alive and well...


Alive

Yoyoma1910
Shlin28
Quintus.JC
Aries777777
WhiteEyes
El Diablo
Beefy187
GeneralHankerchief
Chaotix27
Reenk Roink
Seireikhaan
woad&fangs
TevashSzat
YLC

Tally:

Ares: 1 (GH)
YLC: 1 (Beefy)
El Diablo: 1 (Tevash)
WhiteEyes: 1 (woad&fangs)

[White_eyes:D]

vote: whiteeyes :D
Because I have no idea who the heck you are :balloon3:

Vote:woad&fangs because I have no idea who you are :shrug:

[Thermal]

Possible roles:

explosives expert
ex-SWAT
false diplomat
forgery expert
Armored truck driver
Tanker Hijacker
communications expert
computer engineer
security guard
plastic surgeon
accountant
foreign liason
mastermind
ex-marine

Interesting, ATPG said night phrases may be uneventful at first, so perhaps the mafia get more contagious in the later stages? Does anyone claim any of these roles? we have 3 days of discussion, so we should start delving into this a bit, better than mindless voting at least.

[Chaotix]

I would vote for Aries just be all spiteful and stuff, but I pretty much just got him lynched in Fillet Royale, unless Reenk Roink saves him. So... I'll let him off easy for these first couple'a rounds.

Vote: Beefy

What's with the name change on you two? It could be a secret code... :clown:

[Thermal]

I would vote for Aries just be all spiteful and stuff, but I pretty much just got him lynched in Fillet Royale, unless Reenk Roink saves him. So... I'll let him off easy for these first couple'a rounds.

Vote: Beefy

What's with the name change on you two? It could be a secret code... :clown:

my name change was before his, and i belive i'm still active in the Fillet Royale mafia game, and i want answers from you :smash:

[White_eyes:D]

Well, I am the Armored truck driver:beam:

[ULC]

I would vote for Aries just be all spiteful and stuff, but I pretty much just got him lynched in Fillet Royale, unless Reenk Roink saves him. So... I'll let him off easy for these first couple'a rounds.

Vote: Beefy

What's with the name change on you two? It could be a secret code... :clown:

I highly doubt it's a code ~;p

It's kinda weird though, makes me tempted to change my name to "Abstain", to see what happens :laugh4:

Hmmm...well, it's day one, and with nothing to go on, I'll Vote:GeneralHankerchief

Making me stab myself in Spirit Mafia still stings a little...

[Askthepizzaguy]

It's kinda weird though, makes me tempted to change my name to "Abstain", to see what happens :laugh4:

LOL

I'd appreciate it if people would inform me if they change their name. It is rather inconvenient for me.

[Chaotix]

Incidentally, how do you change your name? Do you have to ask a moderator or is it possible manually?

[Askthepizzaguy]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/profile.php?do=editprofile

Change username is center, top. Change username, email, password.

I am out of here for a little bit. I will be back tomorrow or in couple days.

[El Diablo]

But for the fact that he named a street after me and kept the juggling kittens happening, I would have had to vote for Yoyoma.

As it is WhiteEyes killed me last time and that, is the best reason that I can come up with for a Day 1"no reason" lynch (we have no information).

Vote WhiteEyes

[Yoyoma1910]

Vote: El Diablo

How the hell can we trust someone called the devil???




Are we preachers or criminals?

[Askthepizzaguy]

You'd think someone called El Diablo would be a perfect codename for a person involved with a heist!

:grin:

[Yoyoma1910]

You'd think someone called El Diablo would be a perfect codename for a person involved with a heist!

:grin:

That's what I'm sayin'!





And what do we need a bunch of preaching around here for? Save it for Sunday brother.

[seireikhaan]

Vote: YLC

Sting or not, that's a pretty bad excuse for a first round vote.

[TevashSzat]

Interesting, ATPG said night phrases may be uneventful at first, so perhaps the mafia get more contagious in the later stages? Does anyone claim any of these roles? we have 3 days of discussion, so we should start delving into this a bit, better than mindless voting at least.


Well, I am the Armored truck driver:beam:

Well, I think every should just fess up now and tell everyone their role. ATPG said that there would be clues for us so it would be helpful to know who everyone is.

I am the Mastermind so technically, I set up the whole group :2thumbsup:

Anyways,



Explosives expert
Ex-SWAT
False diplomat
Forgery expert
Armored truck driver - White_eyes:D
Tanker Hijacker
Communications expert
Computer engineer
Security guard
Plastic surgeon
Accountant
Foreign liason
Mastermind - TevashSzat
Ex-marine

[seireikhaan]

I am the Mastermind so technically, I set up the whole group :2thumbsup:
:inquisitive:

Is this a confession? Everyone knows the only masterminds needed in a mafia game are the mafiosi.

:inquisitive:

[TevashSzat]

:inquisitive:

Is this a confession? Everyone knows the only masterminds needed in a mafia game are the mafiosi.

:inquisitive:

But what good group of criminals doesn't have a Mastermind?

Edit: I see that you aren't willing to disclose who you are yet. Got something to hide?????

[seireikhaan]

But what good group of criminals doesn't have a Mastermind?

Edit: I see that you aren't willing to disclose who you are yet. Got something to hide?????
Any good group of criminals is a pure democracy. If we need a cap'n, we get one in order. :pirate2:

And if you really are so curious, I am the plastic surgeon.

[ULC]

Vote: YLC

Sting or not, that's a pretty bad excuse for a first round vote.

Well, then how would you have me vote? It's not like the rest of everyone's votes have more punch behind them. If they do, then I'll happily change my vote :grin2:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Computer engineer here, and yes, my vote was just a random meatball. As was everyone else's, probably.

[White_eyes:D]

But for the fact that he named a street after me and kept the juggling kittens happening, I would have had to vote for Yoyoma.

As it is WhiteEyes killed me last time and that, is the best reason that I can come up with for a Day 1"no reason" lynch (we have no information).

Vote WhiteEyes

:inquisitive:........you should NOT carry grudges over games, it's B-A-D....:whip:

[ULC]

Tally

Ares: 1 (GH)
YLC: 2 (Beefy, Khaan)
El Diablo: 1 (Tevash)
WhiteEyes: 2 (woad&fangs, El Diablo)
woad&fangs: 1(white eyes)
Beefy: 1(Chaotix27)
GeneralHankerchief: 1(YLC)

So we know where we stand :bow:

[El Diablo]

I was the third gunman on the grassy...er Tanker Hi-jacker reporting for duty, Sir.


....does this make me a Somali pirate....??

[Yoyoma1910]

First off, you can call me Louis 7 Fingers. That should tell you what my job here is.


Second off:


Well, I think every should just fess up now and tell everyone their role. ATPG said that there would be clues for us so it would be helpful to know who everyone is.

I am the Mastermind so technically, I set up the whole group :2thumbsup:

Anyways,



This game is not your typical mafia game. I highly encourage everyone to vote and discuss. Clues will be scarce, as I usually give you oodles of clues. You must solve this mystery if you are serious about winning, or your chances will be minimized.



I don't know that we can count on any sort of obvious clues, if you could call Pizzas clues at all obvious.


Third off, I don't trust no Mastermind, especially one who don't want to keep company with the devil.

Vote:TevashSzat

[Quintus.JC]

I'm the false diplomat.

I always say this; in the early stages of the game there is hardly any one to suspect against, so i'll Vote: Abstain

[Thermal]

I was the third gunman on the grassy...er Tanker Hi-jacker reporting for duty, Sir.


....does this make me a Somali pirate....??

that sounds supicious, tanker hijacker, perhaps gold hijacker no? :inquisitive:


I'm the forgery Expert :bow:

[shlin28]

Ex-SWAT reporting for DUTY! LETS KILL THAT FED SCUMBAG! *shoots submachine gun into the air*

Vote: Yoyoma

Why did you vote for da boss? I could kill you right now! :furious3:

:clown:

[Yoyoma1910]

Ex-SWAT reporting for DUTY! LETS KILL THAT FED SCUMBAG! *shoots submachine gun into the air*

Vote: Yoyoma

Why did you vote for da boss? I could kill you right now! :furious3:

:clown:

Why did you threaten to shoot the guy with all the explosives?


Plus, maybe I'm thinking that he's thinking that he don't need us around anymore. So everywhere we walk we're going to be falling through trapdoors or be attacked by fembots. And then there's that cat he's always petting... Dang thing makes me sneeze.

[shlin28]

You didn't say you have the explosives :no:

Anyhoo... care to explain this?


Who's the dirty rat that killed my brother?

If not, I may just shoot you :beam:

[Yoyoma1910]

First off, you can call me Louis 7 Fingers. That should tell you what my job here is.

Suppose I could have been more obvious.




Who's the dirty rat that killed my brother?

That was my best James Cagney.

[shlin28]

Gah! I just know how to shoot guns and can't read... sorry...

Still keeping my vote on you though.

[Yoyoma1910]

No problem. I wouldn't expect less from an ex cop.

[Thermal]

Supposed Roles


explosives expert - Yoyoma 1910 ?
ex-SWAT - Shlin 28
false diplomat - Quintus JC
forgery expert - 777 Ares 777
Armored truck driver - White Eyes
Tanker Hijacker - El Diablo
communications expert - 187Beefyz
computer engineer - General Hankerchief
security guard -
plastic surgeon - Seirei khaan
accountant -
foreign liason - Woad & Fangs
mastermind - Tevash Szat
ex-marine - YLC

Tally, alphabetical and vote ordered :grin:

WhiteEyes: 2 (woad&fangs, El Diablo)
YLC: 2 (Beefy, Khaan)

Ares: 1 (GH)
Beefy: 1 (Chaotix)
El Diablo: 1 (Tevash)
GeneralHankerchief: 1 (YLC)
Tevash: 1 (Yoyoma)
woad&fangs: 1 (white eyes)
Yoyoma: 1 (Shlin)

[Yoyoma1910]

Ahem.



I make things go boom.

[ULC]

*drums fingers* Not much to say, not much going on...Ex-Marine here though.

*begins idly cleaning M590* I do hope people will start speaking up soon, it's getting rather boring around here, and were not getting anywhere. So, how does the CO of this operation handle ties?

[Thermal]

Well i haven't voted yet for those precised reasons, and i'd like a lead before i vote, which is differcult to get presently lets look through the roles....



explosives expert - agent material? i doubt it FBI and spies would be more tactful IMO

ex SWAT - special weapons and tactics, hmmmm, that sounds like a spy to me (though i'm not accusing yet, just trying to piece it together)

false diplomat - so-so, doubt it but still a tad suspicious

forgery expert - in my eyes a forgery expert doesn't make FBI material

Armoured truck driver - i imagine if any an accomplish to the head guy, though i think it's probably an innocent role

Tanker Hi-Jacker - The most suspicion IMHO, He would work in the same way as a gold hi jacker, there was ment to be a greedy guy on board, thats putting FBI out of the equation

communications expert - again quite suspicious, a spy could communicate with the FBI in various ways

computer engineer - have his uses, though i doubt he's agent material

security guard - security for the gang or for the bank? if for the gang then he's probably innocent

Plastic surgeon - again, can't see mafia here, just a feeling, cosmetics hardly makes for a traitorous killer

accountant - this guy could easily get his hands on the money, maybe not the main culprit but still along the lines of a traitor

foreign liason - could be crafty, but probably good

mastermind - i would say a mastermind is the gang leader, kind of, in such a way i would think there innocent

ex-marine - sounds to insignificant to be dangerous, not suspicious yet....


Please bare in mind i only considered the roles, not the players, i don't want to accuse anyone

out of them the most guilty i think are:

Ex SWAT
Tanker Hi-Jacker
Communications expert
Accountant

would anyone agree that these four sound more shifty?

Seeing as the accountant and communications expert haven't come forward, from the players who haven't claimed a role, we can piece together who they are, and if they don't reveal who they are, then we should lynch them i think, though you all have your say if you disagree

[woad&fangs]

Foreign Liason.

Also, remember that this game was originally designed for 13 players. That means 1 role had to of been come up with at the last second. This role is probably blander than the original 13 and is most likely innocent.

edit: ex-marine is most likely the additional role. So YLC is probably innocent.

[Beefy187]

I would vote for Aries just be all spiteful and stuff, but I pretty much just got him lynched in Fillet Royale, unless Reenk Roink saves him. So... I'll let him off easy for these first couple'a rounds.

Vote: Beefy

What's with the name change on you two? It could be a secret code... :clown:

I saw Aries changed his name (So he did change before me.) And I went.. "Wow cool! You can change names? Then I shall change mine to 187Beefyz so it looks like theres 187 of me... They shall fear me rawl!!!" Then I found out that I cannot change it back to my original name... So im stuck with this for now..

I am the Communication expert. My job is to hide somewhere, and report to you guys if there is anything suspicious coming in your way. If you seen "Bank Job" im that guy who hides on top of the roof.

[Thermal]

explosives expert - Yoyoma 1910 ?
ex-SWAT - Shlin 28
false diplomat - Quintus JC
forgery expert - 777 Ares 777
Armored truck driver - White Eyes
Tanker Hijacker - El Diablo
communications expert - 187Beefyz
computer engineer - General Hankerchief
security guard -
plastic surgeon - Seirei khaan
accountant -
foreign liason - Woad & Fangs
mastermind - Tevash Szat
ex-marine - YLC


Reenk Roink is yet to reveal, i'm thinking the accountant will get my vote


any ideas guys? i feel alone discussing with myself :laugh4:

[Beefy187]

explosives expert - Yoyoma 1910 ?
ex-SWAT - Shlin 28
false diplomat - Quintus JC
forgery expert - 777 Ares 777
Armored truck driver - White Eyes
Tanker Hijacker - El Diablo
communications expert - 187Beefyz
computer engineer - General Hankerchief
security guard -
plastic surgeon - Seirei khaan
accountant -
foreign liason - Woad & Fangs
mastermind - Tevash Szat
ex-marine - YLC


Reenk Roink and Tevash szat are yet to reveal, i'm thinking the accountant will get my vote, so i'm sure they'll both claim to be a security guard with that knowledge :juggle2:


any ideas guys? i feel alone discussing with myself :laugh4:

Tevash is the mastermind.
So its Reenk and someone else

[Thermal]

Tevash is the mastermind.
So its Reenk and someone else

i see sorry tevash, but i looked at the op, who else?

for now

vote: reenk roink
and at least i've tried to be logical about it ok? :beam:

edit: tally

WhiteEyes: 2 (woad&fangs, El Diablo)
YLC: 2 (Beefy, Khaan)

Ares: 1 (GH)
Beefy: 1 (Chaotix)
El Diablo: 1 (Tevash)
GeneralHankerchief: 1 (YLC)
Reenk Roink (Ares)
Tevash: 1 (Yoyoma)
woad&fangs: 1 (white eyes)
Yoyoma: 1 (Shlin)

[Thermal]

I realise the rule is not to edit posts with votes in, i confirm vote: reenk roink

[Chaotix]

Well, if you wanted to vote for the accountant, Aries, then you can vote for me. Because that's who I am.

However, I believe that voting solely based on the character roles is unreliable- if ATPG based his traitor and government agent upon the fake roles that they had, it would indeed be far too easy to find the two.

Also- with me in the mix this leaves one person without a role! Are you sure you copied all of them, Aries? If not, they we may have one of our traitors pretending to be a different role.

EDIT: Oh, I saw your edit- nix on that last point, there.

[White_eyes:D]

Well, if you wanted to vote for the accountant, Aries, then you can vote for me. Because that's who I am.

However, I believe that voting solely based on the character roles is unreliable- if ATPG based his traitor and government agent upon the fake roles that they had, it would indeed be far too easy to find the two.

Also- with me in the mix this leaves one person without a role! Are you sure you copied all of them, Aries? If not, they we may have one of our traitors pretending to be a different role.

EDIT: Oh, I saw your edit- nix on that last point, there.

No, there are fourteen roles there.....so, cover roles is the key word of the day....:juggle2:
We need to think on which role's are likely to be Mafia......but ATPG is random and I think it may take a while to find out who.....(as we have no clues, apart from are roles...:shrug:)

[Thermal]

im aware assuming a role is bad isnt reliable, though its far more reliable than meatballing, anything is more reliable than that, i'll stick with reenk roink then, the security guard until he speak, hes the only one who hasnt, if he does though i may change my mind

[GeneralHankerchief]

Just because I haven't played with a bunch of people before, can anyone confirm if Ares is always like this?

[Thermal]

Just because I haven't played with a bunch of people before, can anyone confirm if Ares is always like this?

sometimes i spam sometimes i really delve into it and investigate, my playing style is quite varied, though i realize your not asking me

[Beefy187]

Just because I haven't played with a bunch of people before, can anyone confirm if Ares is always like this?

His a forum spammer, who can be quite good with analysis and taking leading ship as he have sharp observation. When he dies, he often attempts to come back as zombies

As for lynching by the role, I think its not that bad idea, as we are pretty much blind on round one and we won't feel as bad if we lynch someone important.

I would make the mastermind the mafia but ATPG done those tricks before in Futurama. I doubt he will do it again.

[Yoyoma1910]

forgery expert - in my eyes a forgery expert doesn't make FBI material





You have no idea what the FBI does, do you?


Forgery expert is classic FBI material.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Rule change.

Andres told me that the rules state that a 3 day long day phase is too long, and I'm still waiting on his response to my explanation.

Until then, days will be 2 days long, I'm afraid.

[Reenk Roink]

Why is everyone revealing their roles? :inquisitive: Mafia has changed so much with you kids from the good old days...

Anyway, I'm the security guard and I abstain, courteously :bow:.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Well, where we're at now is everyone claiming a legitimate role, leaving it to pretty much total guesswork as to find which one is the one that ATPG made the traitor. :yes:

Alternatively, we could assume that things were done randomly and try a different, more precise route, but of course that would be too easy. :laugh4:

[Askthepizzaguy]

*rubs his hands together evilly*

[Reenk Roink]

I think the roles are smoke and mirrors. However, they give good material for role playing.

:stop: I'm watching you...

[Yoyoma1910]

I would make the mastermind the mafia but ATPG done those tricks before in Futurama. I doubt he will do it again.

I don't know... He might do it again just to throw everyone off, because no one would expect him to repeat himself. Oh, the wine that sits before me.


The only idea I have is that he probably wouldn't pick 'Khaan, because he might feel that was too obvious of a mafia choice. But that's just a hunch, and might be completely wrong.




Then again, he might have picked all the roles at random...

[Beefy187]

Then again, he might have picked all the roles at random...

That would be a safe choice for a host to avoid favoritism.

Still going by the characters aren't bad for round one

[shlin28]

Oh hurry up with the voting thingy, me wanty to shooty someone.

:clown:

[Thermal]

You have no idea what the FBI does, do you?


Forgery expert is classic FBI material.

honestly? No i'm not up to date with FBI info, but i doubt a forgery expert would kill, more on the crafty side if anything

El Diablo: 2 (Tevash, Ares)
WhiteEyes: 2 (woad&fangs, El Diablo)
YLC: 2 (Beefy, Khaan)

Ares: 1 (GH)
Beefy: 1 (Chaotix)
GeneralHankerchief: 1 (YLC)
Tevash: 1 (Yoyoma)
woad&fangs: 1 (white eyes)
Yoyoma: 1 (Shlin)

i will change my vote because reenk roink turned up, and i hope i don't get lynched for being active like i was on fillet royale, me not happy about that :no:

unvote: reenk roink
vote: el diablo

the most suspicion sound role in my eyes, with a dodgy username as a back up :laugh4:

just to make the top of the board more interesting, and give YLC and white eyes company up there

[Thermal]

again i have to confirm my vote in an unedited post

vote: El Diablo

seeing as ATPG is hosting, maybe i can try and find connections and clues, i'm around enough to concentrate on this game anyway :yes:

[Quintus.JC]

again i have to confirm my vote in an unedited post

vote: El Diablo

seeing as ATPG is hosting, maybe i can try and find connections and clues, i'm around enough to concentrate on this game anyway :yes:

Yeah true, ATPG always leaves tiny clues in his write-ups. Although its not easy spot though.

[El Diablo]

Umm Aries that's pretty scummy to change your vote "because someone showed up".

FoS: Aries

Also Mr PizzaHostGuy will lynch all three of us and then we will really be in trouble.

A triple lynch does not help town does it? Especially when we have nothing to go on.
ATPG will give us something to work off next round, so lets get to that stage...

Thus to save us from a triple lynch and an early mafia victory...

Unvote WhiteEyes vote YLC

YLC: 3 (Beefy, Khaan, El Diablo)
El Diablo: 2 (Tevash, Ares)

Ares: 1 (GH)
Beefy: 1 (Chaotix)
GeneralHankerchief: 1 (YLC)
Tevash: 1 (Yoyoma)
woad&fangs: 1 (white eyes)
Yoyoma: 1 (Shlin)
WhiteEyes: 1 (woad&fangs)

[TevashSzat]

Updated role list. It should be complete now:


Explosives expert - Yoyoma 1910
Ex-SWAT - Shlin 28
False diplomat - Quintus JC
Forgery expert - 777 Ares 777
Armored truck driver - White Eyes
Tanker Hijacker - El Diablo
Communications expert - 187Beefyz
Computer engineer - General Hankerchief
Security guard - Reenk Roink
Plastic surgeon - Seirei khaan
Accountant - Chaotix
Foreign liason - Woad & Fangs
Mastermind - Tevash Szat
Ex-marine - YLC

@El Diablo

Hmm.....trying to save your own skin????

YLC: 3 (Beefy, Khaan, El Diablo)
El Diablo: 2 (Tevash, Ares)

Ares: 1 (GH)
Beefy: 1 (Chaotix)
GeneralHankerchief: 1 (YLC)
Tevash: 1 (Yoyoma)
woad&fangs: 1 (white eyes)
Yoyoma: 1 (Shlin)
WhiteEyes: 1 (woad&fangs)

[ULC]

Umm Aries that's pretty scummy to change your vote "because someone showed up".

FoS: Aries

Also Mr PizzaHostGuy will lynch all three of us and then we will really be in trouble.

A triple lynch does not help town does it? Especially when we have nothing to go on.
ATPG will give us something to work off next round, so lets get to that stage...

Thus to save us from a triple lynch and an early mafia victory...

Unvote WhiteEyes vote YLC

YLC: 3 (Beefy, Khaan, El Diablo)
El Diablo: 2 (Tevash, Ares)

Ares: 1 (GH)
Beefy: 1 (Chaotix)
GeneralHankerchief: 1 (YLC)
Tevash: 1 (Yoyoma)
woad&fangs: 1 (white eyes)
Yoyoma: 1 (Shlin)
WhiteEyes: 1 (woad&fangs)

Any reason to jump on me ED, instead of Ares? Honestly, ATPG, if memory serves, only ever lynches one person, and one person only, in a case of having a tie of more 2 or more players. It is random, but we won't risk an "early mafia victory" by tieing it up and getting discussion going, which, if memory serves again, will be what wins this one - ATPG is not handing out clues in this one, he said so himself, any clue he gives will be very imbedded, esoteric, and rare, if not all three.

So instead of the day ending early and therefore stifling discussion -

Unvote: GeneralHankerchief
Vote: El Diablo

[Thermal]

Umm Aries that's pretty scummy to change your vote "because someone showed up".

FoS: Aries

Also Mr PizzaHostGuy will lynch all three of us and then we will really be in trouble.

A triple lynch does not help town does it? Especially when we have nothing to go on.
ATPG will give us something to work off next round, so lets get to that stage...

It isn't scummy changing my vote because he turned up, because it shows he isn't lurking by talking on the thread, and your role sounds shifty, sorry if it's a lame excuse

Furthermore, i would of thought ATPG would lynch no one in the case of a tie, as most hosts do, so i'm not sure about that reasoning, unless i missed a rule.

Finally FoS: El Diablo
for doing the exact same thing as what got me into trouble on fillet royale, self-preservation doesn't work i should know, i urge everyone to vote for him :smash: your case of "trying to save people" doesn't cut it with me, as the exterior motive is clearly to save yourself


edit: i believe YLC is entitled to do what El Diablo has, considering the circumstance

[White_eyes:D]

It isn't scummy changing my vote because he turned up, because it shows he isn't lurking by talking on the thread, and your role sounds shifty, sorry if it's a lame excuse
Furthermore, i would of thought ATPG would lynch no one in the case of a tie, as most hosts do, so i'm not sure about that reasoning, unless i missed a rule.
Finally FoS: El Diablo
for doing the exact same thing as what got me into trouble on fillet royale, self-preservation doesn't work i should know, i urge everyone to vote for him :smash: your case of "trying to save people" doesn't cut it with me, as the exterior motive is clearly to save yourself


edit: i believe YLC is entitled to do what El Diablo has, considering the circumstance

As long as there is a tie for now, we can at least wait until people come up with more clues...
for now it would just be a random lynch which is a 2-14 chance of nailing a Mafia(never good odds:no:) but is better then zero, I will admit but for now I see no reason to help lynch anyone..........:smash::smash:

[Thermal]

Well he equally said i was suspicious, when i believe he's suspicious himself, considering the majority have meatballed, i assumed my vote would have gone done smoothly with at least a bit of logic behind it

[El Diablo]

Fair call then. I see that it is unfair to target YLC. I will admit I was trying to save myself but more for trying to figure out ATPG riddles and hints.

Unvote YLC Vote Aries


Finally FoS: El Diablo
for doing the exact same thing as what got me into trouble on fillet royale, self-preservation doesn't work i should know, i urge everyone to vote for him your case of "trying to save people" doesn't cut it with me, as the exterior motive is clearly to save yourself


Were you mafia in Fillet Royal?

[Yoyoma1910]

Furthermore, i would of thought ATPG would lynch no one in the case of a tie, as most hosts do, so i'm not sure about that reasoning, unless i missed a rule.



I don't think lynching no one is the common rule.


I've seen Pizza do double lynches and coin flips. Anyway, the host hasn't told us what will happen in the case of a tie to my recollection. It might end up with all the front runners getting lynched, which could be hazardous to our numbers. It could also end up in a run off. Maybe no one will get lynched, but I doubt it. And unless we know for sure, putting three people up front is potentially reckless.

[Thermal]

Were you mafia in Fillet Royal?

Nope, but according to andres i reeked of scum using that tactic

tally
El Diablo: 3 (Tevash, Ares, YLC)

Ares: 2 (GH, El Diablo)
YLC: 2 (Beefy, Khaan)

Beefy: 1 (Chaotix)
Tevash: 1 (Yoyoma)
woad&fangs: 1 (white eyes)
Yoyoma: 1 (Shlin)
WhiteEyes: 1 (woad&fangs)

[GeneralHankerchief]

Sorry, it's been a busy day and I really haven't had time to check the thread. I'll enter discussion more thoroughly tomorrow.

[Quintus.JC]

Self preservation is a perfectly valid reason, especially early in the game. But El Diablo is normally a very astute player, Lynching in the first round was pretty common for him because of his name (The Devil...), but his behaviour so far doesn't fit in his normal pattern. So I'll:

Unvote: Abstain
Vote: El Diablo

[Quintus.JC]

[QUOTE=El Diablo;2087176]Umm Aries that's pretty scummy to change your vote "because someone showed up".

FoS: Aries

Also Mr PizzaHostGuy will lynch all three of us and then we will really be in trouble.

A triple lynch does not help town does it? Especially when we have nothing to go on.
ATPG will give us something to work off next round, so lets get to that stage...

Thus to save us from a triple lynch and an early mafia victory...

[QUOTE]

When did thePizzaGuy done a triple lynch in his game?

Vote: El Diablo

Forgot to bold my vote in the previous post.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Accurate tally?



tally
El Diablo: 4 (Tevash, Ares, YLC, QJC)

Ares: 2 (GH, El Diablo)
YLC: 2 (Beefy, Khaan)

Beefy: 1 (Chaotix)
Tevash: 1 (Yoyoma)
woad&fangs: 1 (white eyes)
Yoyoma: 1 (Shlin)
WhiteEyes: 1 (woad&fangs)

Day One is over.

[Thermal]

[QUOTE=El Diablo;2087176]Umm Aries that's pretty scummy to change your vote "because someone showed up".

FoS: Aries



as i said previously, if you let me explain, him showing up shows he wasn't lurking, i already believed the role of tanker hi-jacker to be more suspicious than security guard, however to be fair to el diablo i didnt vote for him straight away, on the thought Reenk might not turn up in time or deliberately dodged the thread :bow:

[Askthepizzaguy]

Day One Results

The sun set on the tanker, halfway across the Atlantic ocean.

The 14 had gathered together for the first time. Everyone was a little uneasy, but they all had their weapons down. El Diablo seemed particularly nervous with every vote that was read aloud. He knew that his days were numbered.

Before the speaker was even done, he quickly stood up and lifted his weapon, and began firing bullets. However, the bullets missed everyone else, because as soon as he stood up and pulled the trigger, he was dead. His fingers released the trigger and his body hit the ground with a sickening thud, and blood flowed quietly all over the deck.

El Diablo's face was riddled with bullets, as was his chest. His lifeless eyes peered back at the gang, as if trying to convey some message.

The rest of the gang sat silently. They were used to seeing former comrades turn their back on them, and they were used to gunning them down. El Diablo's death was no different. He may have hijacked the tanker for them, but he was ready to kill them all. No one grieved for him, at least not openly. This was a dangerous game, and sometimes winning was more important than feeling remorse.

They went back to their quarters that night, without incident. Each of them locked themselves into their separate cabins, bolted and barred the doors, and slept with one eye open. They all clutched their weapons, preparing for any possible intrusion.


Begin Night One.

The night seemed to last forever. All that could be heard was the rocking of the ship against the motion of the ocean, and even this noise was quiet. In the middle of the ocean, it was very calm. You could hear a pin drop, or listen to the rats breathing. The engine room continued to hum, but by now everyone had gotten used to that sound and could no longer hear it.

Cold sweat accumulated on the backs of many, but in the morning, they were all alive, tired, and cranky.

Players: 13 remaining.

Yoyoma1910
Shlin28
Quintus.JC
Aries777777
WhiteEyes
El Diablo
Beefy187
GeneralHankerchief
Chaotix27
Reenk Roink
Seireikhaan
woad&fangs
TevashSzat
YLC



Begin Day Two.

[Yoyoma1910]

This is going to be the No Country For Old Men of mafia games, I can feel it.







Silent ultra violence.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I think a new tactic is needed.

Vote: Abstain

For now.

[Thermal]

If it carries on at that rate we'll still be going in a year when we reach "day 101...." no kills on the first night is puzzling

[Reenk Roink]

That was one of the saddest voting rounds ever and there have been some bad ones. :no: :shame:

[Thermal]

El Diablo's face was riddled with bullets, as was his chest.

this is highlighted, i don't see what it tells us though, a clue?

[woad&fangs]

vote: Reenk Roink
because someone has to get the voting started.

[Yoyoma1910]

this is highlighted, i don't see what it tells us though, a clue?


Let's see, face and also chest...


I believe the clue there is that El Diablo's dream was always to be Swiss Cheese, and we all helped to make it so.

[Quintus.JC]

Mmm... No murder on night 1, is there someone among us thats really unactive recently?

[GeneralHankerchief]

I think the lack of murder is part of the game:


This is not your typical mafia game, and night phases will be uneventful for the most part. The traitor or traitors will have difficulty killing anyone. Simply make the correct guess and you are home free. As the game progresses however, it will become more dangerous.

[Thermal]

Mmm... No murder on night 1, is there someone among us thats really unactive recently?

nope....

Chest could refer to money chest, accountant, though thats really vague, and i doubt it (though the clues were ment to be vague)


edit: @ GH, perhaps mafia can recruit people or something, and until they recruit someone they can't get kills, maybe there will be a kill tonight?

[shlin28]

Vote: GH

Why should there be no lynches? I DEMAND DEATHS!

[GeneralHankerchief]

edit: @ GH, perhaps mafia can recruit people or something, and until they recruit someone they can't get kills, maybe there will be a kill tonight?

It's possible, but ATPG would have to put a cap or some kind of restrictions on recruitment or otherwise the game could get unbalanced quickly.

Anyway, methinks we are once again delving into the realm of speculation.

Vote: khaan

[Askthepizzaguy]

Speculation can be a good thing. I highly encourage discussion.

[Yoyoma1910]

nope....

Chest could refer to money chest, accountant, though thats really vague, and i doubt it (though the clues were ment to be vague)


edit: @ GH, perhaps mafia can recruit people or something, and until they recruit someone they can't get kills, maybe there will be a kill tonight?


Or maybe he wanted breast implants? And a nose job.

[woad&fangs]

Vote: GH

Why should there be no lynches? I DEMAND DEATHS!

Is that really all you got?

unvote: Reenk; vote: shlin

[Yoyoma1910]

El Diablo's face was riddled with bullets, as was his chest. His lifeless eyes peered back at the gang, as if trying to convey some message.



What message was he trying to communicate? Face and chest? Maybe he was the secret lover of the plastic surgeon.

[Thermal]

What message was he trying to communicate? Face and chest? Maybe he was the secret lover of the plastic surgeon.

foreign liason? i though he was the hi-jacker, unless the plastic surgeon and hi-jacker are connected somehow? also Shlin, explain your random vote, all of your posts consist of wanting to kill people and leaving no explanation, not good :inquisitive:



edit @ shlin, i think he's been told to roleplay every post hes made makes reference to killing someone, FoS: Shlin

[shlin28]

~:smoking:

An Ex-SWAT's gotta do what he's trained to do. Ain't no other way to live. No there ain't.

I just want to kill some ungrateful theif who will take our gold with my modified submachine gun with questionable accuracy... is that a crime???

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yes. But then again, you're all a bunch of criminals anyway. Why should you be any different? :laugh2:

[shlin28]

Cos I know how to use a gun better :smash:

[Yoyoma1910]

foreign liason? i though he was the hi-jacker, unless the plastic surgeon and hi-jacker are connected somehow? also Shlin, explain your random vote, all of your posts consist of wanting to kill people and leaving no explanation, not good :inquisitive:



edit @ shlin, i think he's been told to roleplay every post hes made makes reference to killing someone, FoS: Shlin

How did you get foreign liaison out of that?


And according to the write up El Diablo was the Tanker Hijacker.



He may have hijacked the tanker for them, but he was ready to kill them all.


Look kid, if you're going to go and pull at a bunch of straws, at least get a little information straight first. Otherwise you might pull the short one.


One of the traditional focuses of the FBI is fraud, which forgery is a part of. AKA, fraudulent checks and crap. AKA, Catch Me if You Can for all yous guys that don't "keep up" with things, or however you put(s)ed it. I mean, they friggin' got Al Capon on tax evasion!


And a foreign liaison ain't some Greek hooker.


:holmes:

[TevashSzat]

Hmmm.....I dunno, we're still just randomly voting....I would think that ATPG assigned the roles randomly rather have some predetermined role be the FBI/traitor

[seireikhaan]

Vote: Quintus

It was already noted that there was no deaths, and the question of why already posed. That was an empty post attempting to sound like it was trying to create discussion, even though the discussion had already been created.


Tally:

Quintus I(seireikhaan)
GH I(Shlin28)
Shlin28 I(Woad&Fangs)
seireikhaan I(GH)

[woad&fangs]

And a foreign liaison ain't some Greek hooker.



Putin was such a sexy beast...I just couldn't resist...

also unvote:shlin
That explanation satisfies me.

[Chaotix]

Err... did anyone else notice that GH decided to vote immediately after Shlin went after him for not voting? Seriously, there was only a three minute interval between their posts. That looks to me like he's trying to save his own skin here... although I'd think GH would be more careful about doing something like that.

Vote: GH

Until he explains the reasoning behind his sudden change of mind.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I don't interpret it as him going after me for not voting.

[Chaotix]

Well, how did you interpret it, then, and why did you decide to vote right then after his post?

[GeneralHankerchief]

I interpreted it as a random vote plus the voicing of his desire to see blood. As I believe the subsequent discussion confirmed.

As for why I voted, that was to see a reaction. I'm still deciding on what to make of it.

[Chaotix]

I see. That definitely makes more sense than you just blatantly voting for self-preservation. I would expect nothing less from a mafia vet. :bow:

Unvote

Now as I have no other leads, I'll leave myself abstained for now.

[Thermal]

It also says in the write up that these are practically random guesses when choosing who to lynch, so it looks like were going to be stripped of leads throughout

[Beefy187]

As there are little clues so far, I suggest we try the traditional way of analyzing who voted who for what reason.

Ill read the thread again and make the decision later

[White_eyes:D]

I agree with Reenk, (unfortunately:juggle2:)That was a sad round.....I mean this game feels like the Prometheus as it should have been.....I bet the Mafia are just randomly throwing votes around hoping to lynch someone.....(why did everyone break the tie?....I mean we don't even know hardly anything yet, El Diablo was lynched......:inquisitive:)

[Beefy187]

I agree with Reenk, (unfortunately:juggle2:)That was a sad round.....I mean this game feels like the Prometheus as it should have been.....I bet the Mafia are just randomly throwing votes around hoping to lynch someone.....(why did everyone break the tie?....I mean we don't even know hardly anything yet, El Diablo was lynched......:inquisitive:)

Theres both sides of argument in regards of first round lynch

Benefit of round 1 lynch would be actually having a go at the mafia. It may be 1/14 or what ever but we still have a chance to get it right. Plus we get a better chance with medic revival and detective investigation. Plus it creates discussion more I guess.

As for demerits, one less townie.

I personally dislike lynching round 1, but some says it gives advantage to the towns .

[ULC]

Theres both sides of argument in regards of first round lynch

Benefit of round 1 lynch would be actually having a go at the mafia. It may be 1/14 or what ever but we still have a chance to get it right. Plus we get a better chance with medic revival and detective investigation. Plus it creates discussion more I guess.

As for demerits, one less townie.

I personally dislike lynching round 1, but some says it gives advantage to the towns .

Know something we don't Beefy?

[Beefy187]

Know something we don't Beefy?

High school education and math probability course:clown:.

Other then that. Nah

[Quintus.JC]

With all this 'sad nights' maybe we should cease lynching anyone until the mafia actually makes a kill, I mean if no one is dying at the hands of mafia or lynches then there's no way for the town to lose. But obviously we don't want this game to drag on forever.

[woad&fangs]

I have a feeling that Pizzaguy would give the traitors the ability to kill if we tried that strategy.

Also, I'll be gone most of today and tomorrow so don't be surprised if I don't respond to questions. Since I have to get a vote in I'll vote:TevashSzat because he is the mastermind and masterminds always try to off their underlings to get a bigger slice of the pie.(yes, horrible reasoning, but I don't have much to go off of right now.)

People I'm leaning towards being innocent...

YLC- I think the ex-marine role was the additional role and is therefor likely innocent(unless the mafia's cover role was assigned at random, in which case are discussion for the last page or two has been mostly useless)

Shlin- He's roleplaying. Roleplaying a violent exswatman is likely to raise a few eyebrows. not something that most mafioso would want to do.

[TevashSzat]

With all this 'sad nights' maybe we should cease lynching anyone until the mafia actually makes a kill, I mean if no one is dying at the hands of mafia or lynches then there's no way for the town to lose. But obviously we don't want this game to drag on forever.

I have a feeling that ATPG won't just let everyone live because then the game will literally drag on forever. Odds are that he'll just lynch everyone that is tied or, more likely, choose a random person to lynch

[Thermal]

I have a feeling that ATPG won't just let everyone live because then the game will literally drag on forever. Odds are that he'll just lynch everyone that is tied or, more likely, choose a random person to lynch

yeah, no abstaining either i would think

[White_eyes:D]

In any case the only thing that worries me, is that maybe the FBI agent can recruit.......I think that the traitor wants all the Gold for himself and will likely want everyone dead....(unless I missed something and the traitor is working with the Feds....)*goes back to check opening write-up*:book:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Unvote: khaan
Vote: White eyes

I think if we continue the discussion about the possibility that X role might be the traitor solely because of the role's name, we could talk about this until the cows come home and still not be anywhere.

[White_eyes:D]

Unvote: khaan
Vote: White eyes

I think if we continue the discussion about the possibility that X role might be the traitor solely because of the role's name, we could talk about this until the cows come home and still not be anywhere.

Reason? or are you Mafia and trying to slowly get rid of town? (I helped with discussion....~:argue:)
but you seem to want someone Lynched......(as you didn't vote last round......thought town's paranoia was enough?:inquisitive:)

[shlin28]

SWAT sense tingling...



I think if we continue the discussion about the possibility that X role might be the traitor solely because of the role's name, we could talk about this until the cows come home and still not be anywhere.

We have been discussing this for the past 5 pages, surely there is no point in bringing it up again?

Methinks GH has jumped to the top of my to-kill list :beam:

[Chaotix]

To GH's defense, often points that have already been made need to be repeated in order to remind those not paying as much attention... but of course we are all very active and paying much attention to the game anyway! :clown:

Vote: shlin

For looking for a reason to lynch someone.

[shlin28]

You my friend has also jumped up on Da List :verycool:

:smg:

[Thermal]

You my friend has also jumped up on Da List :verycool:

:smg:

i am with woad and fangs that a traitor wouldnt otherwise be so bold and violent, i'll give you the benifit of the doubt for now

[Yoyoma1910]

His lifeless eyes peered back at the gang, as if trying to convey some message.


What if this is a clue? As if El Diablo had some sort of ability that might have helped us?


Anyway, I don't have any idea at the moment.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Reason? or are you Mafia and trying to slowly get rid of town? (I helped with discussion....~:argue:)
but you seem to want someone Lynched......(as you didn't vote last round......thought town's paranoia was enough?:inquisitive:)

Wrong twice over, my friend. :yes: Firstly, I did vote last round, for Ares. Secondly, there is good discussion and bad discussion. Bad discussion, such as when we're trying to determine the mafia based on role names alone, not only distracts the town but is also good foil for a mafioso trying to blend in. Again, we could talk about this forever and still not get anywhere, but you would still look good because, hey, you're helping discussion while in reality just leading the town in circles.

I'd prefer it if we focused on thread behavior, such as the current trend towards figuring out what shlin is playing at. But I don't think we'll have to worry about that if you get lynched.

[Beefy187]

In any case the only thing that worries me, is that maybe the FBI agent can recruit.......I think that the traitor wants all the Gold for himself and will likely want everyone dead....(unless I missed something and the traitor is working with the Feds....)*goes back to check opening write-up*:book:

Wouldnt that be a contradiction? If traitor wants all the gold for them selves? Why would they recruit?

Unless I got the concept of this completely wrong and FBI agent and the traitor are two separate thing.

[Askthepizzaguy]

GH- Vote: WE
WF- Unvoted
Shlin- Vote: GH
SK- Vote: Quintus
Chaotix- Vote: Shlin


That's it so far. I highly encourage everyone on the sidelines to vote, abstain, or otherwise participate. You do not want to be WOG'ed in this game.

[TevashSzat]

Wouldnt that be a contradiction? If traitor wants all the gold for them selves? Why would they recruit?

Unless I got the concept of this completely wrong and FBI agent and the traitor are two separate thing.

I think they actually are 2 separate people. Or at least, that was the impression I got from what ATPG posted so far

[woad&fangs]

Atpg, I voted for TevashSzat on the previous page.

[Askthepizzaguy]

GH- Vote: WE
WF- Vote: Tevash
Shlin- Vote: GH
SK- Vote: Quintus
Chaotix- Vote: Shlin

Corrected.

I'm bringing out my super Wrath-Of-God Bazooka against those who don't post... :yes:

[Chaotix]

Perhaps you should try the Freem Cannon instead.

Pkeeeeeeeeeeeew! Pkeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!

[Askthepizzaguy]

It was delightful using the Freem Cannon at the end to annihilate the survivors. There are some wonderful things about being the host.

[Beefy187]

Vote: White_eyes

No hard feelings White_eyes. You just seemed lonely without any votes on you. :clown:

On serious note, I don't see anyone standing out just yet. I say we should wait for the kill to take place before we go around lynching peoples.

[ULC]

Vote:Beefy

Pay attention soldier.

[Beefy187]

Aye... :sweatdrop:

I can't. I gotta start studying and then go off to watch some soccer :clown:

[GeneralHankerchief]

ATPG, I'm pretty sure that khaan had a vote in there too. You might want to double-check.

[ULC]

ATPG, I'm pretty sure that khaan had a vote in there too. You might want to double-check.

It's counted if you check -

GH- Vote: WE
WF- Vote: Tevash
Shlin- Vote: GH
SK- Vote: Quintus
Chaotix- Vote: Shlin

He's seiriekhann now, so when abbreviated it's SK...which is Serial Killer...hmmm....

:clown:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Ah, the name change keeps throwing me off. Sorry about that.

[Reenk Roink]

I see you all eying the gold, pretending to be innocent and the voting off your cohorts for bad reasons so you can have all the treasures to yourselves... :inquisitive:

Vote: woad&fangs

I think he used to be Destroyer of Hope (?) who used to big time lurk unless he got a role...

[GeneralHankerchief]

Nope, DoH is now Lord Winter.

[Reenk Roink]

My mistake, vote: abstain, courteously :bow:. For now... I am the security guard, and I will be watching all of you...

[Yoyoma1910]

My mistake, vote: abstain, courteously :bow:. For now... I am the security guard, and I will be watching all of you...

:flirt:

________________________________________________________________________

I have no strong leads, but I currently find Aries style of play the most suspicious.


Vote:Aries

[GeneralHankerchief]

How so?

[Yoyoma1910]

I have nothing strong.



But advocating that we look at roles to determine possible suspects, then stating that your role is the least suspicious, seems a bit scummy to me.


Especially claiming that a forgery expert would not be FBI material.


Interesting, ATPG said night phrases may be uneventful at first, so perhaps the mafia get more contagious in the later stages? Does anyone claim any of these roles? we have 3 days of discussion, so we should start delving into this a bit, better than mindless voting at least.


Well i haven't voted yet for those precised reasons, and i'd like a lead before i vote, which is differcult to get presently lets look through the roles....



explosives expert - agent material? i doubt it FBI and spies would be more tactful IMO

ex SWAT - special weapons and tactics, hmmmm, that sounds like a spy to me (though i'm not accusing yet, just trying to piece it together)

false diplomat - so-so, doubt it but still a tad suspicious

forgery expert - in my eyes a forgery expert doesn't make FBI material

Armoured truck driver - i imagine if any an accomplish to the head guy, though i think it's probably an innocent role

Tanker Hi-Jacker - The most suspicion IMHO, He would work in the same way as a gold hi jacker, there was ment to be a greedy guy on board, thats putting FBI out of the equation

communications expert - again quite suspicious, a spy could communicate with the FBI in various ways

computer engineer - have his uses, though i doubt he's agent material

security guard - security for the gang or for the bank? if for the gang then he's probably innocent

Plastic surgeon - again, can't see mafia here, just a feeling, cosmetics hardly makes for a traitorous killer

accountant - this guy could easily get his hands on the money, maybe not the main culprit but still along the lines of a traitor

foreign liason - could be crafty, but probably good

mastermind - i would say a mastermind is the gang leader, kind of, in such a way i would think there innocent

ex-marine - sounds to insignificant to be dangerous, not suspicious yet....


Please bare in mind i only considered the roles, not the players, i don't want to accuse anyone

out of them the most guilty i think are:

Ex SWAT
Tanker Hi-Jacker
Communications expert
Accountant

would anyone agree that these four sound more shifty?

Seeing as the accountant and communications expert haven't come forward, from the players who haven't claimed a role, we can piece together who they are, and if they don't reveal who they are, then we should lynch them i think, though you all have your say if you disagree

[shlin28]

Eh? He said that he was a forgery expert but considers himself not FBI material? That would be very suspicious.

IF the statement was not written by Ares, I would totally go behind you. However, because of this, I don;t think you should vote him on that sole basis. (If it was by anyone else who claimed that I would totally sneak upon them in the night like a silent vigilante and gut them in their sleep :clown:)

:book:

[ULC]

Eh? He said that he was a forgery expert but considers himself not FBI material? That would be very suspicious.

IF the statement was not written by Ares, I would totally go behind you. However, because of this, I don;t think you should vote him on that sole basis. (If it was by anyone else who claimed that I would totally sneak upon them in the night like a silent vigilante and gut them in their sleep :clown:)

:book:

How does that make sense at all? Think with your brain, not your bullets, moron! Ares looks likes he trying to throw suspicion of himself without directly stating "I'm innocent". I'll say it before, I'll say it again, roles don't mean squat in this unless something new comes up. Right now, we should go with posting behavior, nothing more, until more information crops up.

So am going to agree with Yoyoma on this one, Ares is standing out a bit more then everyone else.

Unvote: Beefy
Vote: Ares

[GeneralHankerchief]

Isn't this his usual style though?

[shlin28]

I'm just saying Ares' playstyle is more along the line of er... simpleness... and I think it is VERY likely that he know in fact probably nothing about the FBI, so his behaviour IMO is justifiable.

(Sorry if my previous post was unclear, I was in a rush)

[ULC]

I'm just saying Ares' playstyle is more along the line of er... simpleness... and I think it is VERY likely that he know in fact probably nothing about the FBI, so his behaviour IMO is justifiable.

(Sorry if my previous post was unclear, I was in a rush)

I'm sorry, but what is that again? I don't think Ares is that simple at all, least not that simple. Why so willing to cover for the man using such "simple" logic? I find it hard to "justify" his behavior, especially since knowing him from the past. My vote stays until someone else incriminates themselves more deeply.

Just so everyone knows, all the slurs and swears in my posts are all IC :bow:

[White_eyes:D]

Hate to say it...(I am in the lead and will likely die......:sweatdrop:) but Vote:abstain since I know that my online time is cut in half till Tuesday, at family's home for Christmas (with wireless.....:thumbsdown:) BTW, IDK about Ares.....he always plays like a simple person and always gets killed right away.....:juggle2:

[Yoyoma1910]

I'm not saying I know he is guilty, or that it is even a strong lead.

Aries can play however he wants, but I'm not going to not vote for someone just because they always have a style of play that makes them suspicious.

Ignorance is never a plea. The idea that someone is innocent because they wouldn't know what they are saying is a fallacy. He has the same access to information as everyone else, as far as I know.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Woo! Real discussion! :cheerleader:

Btw, I'm willing to give Ares the benefit of the doubt here, at least for another round. I've played with several "terminally suspicious" townies in the past and Ares may fit that mold. Also, White eyes is still more suspicious in my mind.

[Yoyoma1910]

Alright, So here's how the current round of voting has gone so far, in order of when the first vote was placed:

GeneralHankerchief: Abstain, Khaan, White Eyes
woad&fangs: Reenk, Shlin, TevashSzat
Shlin28:GeneralHankerchief
Seireikhaan:Quintus.JC
Chaotix: General, Shlin28
Beefy187:WhiteEyes
YLC:Beefy, Ares777777
Reenk Roink: woad, Abstain
Yoyoma1910: Aries777777
White Eyes: Abstain


so then:

Abstain-2
W.Eyes-2
Aries77-2
Tevash-1
General-1
Quintus-1
Shlin28-1

[Beefy187]

I prefer keeping Ares.

He reminds me of Beefy in the old days when I got lynched 7 times in a row being innocent

[GeneralHankerchief]

Yeah, you were who I was thinking of. :tongue:

[Beefy187]

Yeah, you were who I was thinking of. :tongue:

Oh....aww.... :shame:

I can't help it.. I blame my playing style

[TevashSzat]

Vote: White_eyes

No hard feelings White_eyes. You just seemed lonely without any votes on you. :clown:

On serious note, I don't see anyone standing out just yet. I say we should wait for the kill to take place before we go around lynching peoples.

Hmm.....GH voted for white_eyes a few post above yours. Were you trying to break the huge 1 vote tie to get someoney lynched?

Vote:Beefy

As for White_eyes I don't really see anything from him thats suspicious. Ares isn't acting that scummy either so I dunno who we should lynch....

[GeneralHankerchief]

so I dunno who we should lynch....

Except Beefy, maybe, since you voted for him and all. :dizzy2:

[Thermal]

Yoyoma seems obsessed with a forgery expert being the traitor, i was just giving my opinion, i thought there were more suspicious role than someone who can forge, if i was a necromancer and said it was an innocent role then u know im just lying though my teeth, the fact that it warrants reason to vote for me is a bit baseless don't you think? I'm suprised you didn't notice it earlier, it's not like i was sub consciously trying to brainwash you, i clearly stated i was the forgery expert before doing that post, :shrug: in fairness though i know very little about the FBI, i just assumed there a gang of spies....but if FBI is to do with fraud then yes, your right.

edit: my post shouldnt read quick, i just forget to put full stops in :clown:

[Yoyoma1910]

Yoyoma seems obsessed with a forgery expert being the traitor, i was just giving my opinion, i thought there were more suspicious role than someone who can forge, if i was a necromancer and said it was an innocent role then u know im just lying though my teeth, the fact that it warrants reason to vote for me is a bit baseless don't you think? I'm suprised you didn't notice it earlier, it's not like i was sub consciously trying to brainwash you, i clearly stated i was the forgery expert before doing that post, :shrug: in fairness though i know very little about the FBI, i just assumed there a gang of spies....but if FBI is to do with fraud then yes, your right.

edit: my post shouldnt read quick, i just forget to put full stops in :clown:

You're putting words in my mouth.


A) It has nothing to do with your job, it's how you present it to us.

B) I did notice it earlier, and I discussed it in previous posts. Look at #158.

C) Again, I don't trust people who play ignorant. I've seen enough guilty people try to dumb themselves down to look less suspicious.



Look, you asked everyone to disclose their roles, then listed your own as one of the least likely to be guilty. You don't think that's at least a bit funny?

I repeat, I don't care what your job is, it's the fact that you A) Were the first to try and bring it as a way of vetting suspects, and then B) try to use your own role as a shield.

[White_eyes:D]

Woo! Real discussion! :cheerleader:
Also, White eyes is still more suspicious in my mind.
Then Ares? yeah I know :grin: (but just about everyone is more suspicious in my mind....:juggle2:) But why did you and Beefy, vote for me all of a sudden? (It's like you want someone lynched.....) but for now it's a tie.....and I have no idea how to tell if we are getting anywhere in this discussion or are just voting and lynching at random....:sweatdrop:

[Beefy187]

Then Ares? yeah I know :grin: (but just about everyone is more suspicious in my mind....:juggle2:) But why did you and Beefy, vote for me all of a sudden? (It's like you want someone lynched.....) but for now it's a tie.....and I have no idea how to tell if we are getting anywhere in this discussion or are just voting and lynching at random....:sweatdrop:

Mine is a completely random vote, as I thought no one has voted for you this round and obviously I was wrong.

When I use the word mafia, your name comes in my mind first :clown:

[Quintus.JC]

Guys, no one really have any solid evidence against anyone, except hunches that's likely to be wrong. I think we should avoid any lynches this round, we can afford it. If the mafia isn't going to cut down on our numbers then neither should we?

[Beefy187]

I second QJCs plan if the host is fine with it

[Askthepizzaguy]

Day Two is over. We have a tie, so the next vote is the tiebreaker.

GH- Vote: WhiteEyes
woad&fangs- Vote: Tevash
Shlin28- Vote: GH
Seireikhaan- Vote: Quintus
Chaotix27- Vote: Shlin
Beefy187- Vote: WhiteEyes
Reenk Roink- Vote: Abstain
Yoyoma1910- Vote: Ares
YLC- Vote Ares
White_Eyes- Vote: Abstain
TevashSzat- Vote: Beefy
QJC: Abstains

White Eyes: 2
Ares: 2
Abstain: 3
Tevash: 1
GeneralHankerchief: 1
Quintus: 1
Beefy: 1

Choose wisely.

[Quintus.JC]

Neither party looks guiltier than the other, or anyone else in fact.

I'd hate to be the one that have to lynch either of them, so I won't. Vote stays (abstain).

[Askthepizzaguy]

I need a clear winner to proceed. Your vote remaining the same means I still need a tiebreaker.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Apologies, QJC, you werent in the tally as an abstain.

That makes 3 for abstain. There is no tie.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Day Two Results


CLASSIFIED FBI LOG
Agent 824, Headquarters

The tanker continued on it's journey.

The 13 remaining sat with their guns pointing down, and they read off the votes. White_Eyes and 777Ares777 were the only ones with more than one vote, and more people decided not to vote. As a result, they concluded that no one was going to die today. Everyone breathed a sigh of relief and began to relax.

We will continue the surveillance. Everyone has revealed who they are, and so working out who the traitor is should be relatively simple.



Begin Night Two.

The traitor among them had once again decided not to execute anyone. This night passed uneventfully.

Players: 13 remaining.

Yoyoma1910
Shlin28
Quintus.JC
Aries777777
WhiteEyes
El Diablo
Beefy187
GeneralHankerchief
Chaotix27
Reenk Roink
Seireikhaan
woad&fangs
TevashSzat
YLC



Begin Day Three.

Time is running out.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I have a gripe - technically, "abstain" means you have no preference as to who is lynched, and is more to indicate your continued particpation. There has always been a difference between that and "no lynch".

Anyways, Vote: White Eyes

[Askthepizzaguy]

Understood, GH.

I had to decide whether we were going to lynch White_Eyes or Ares, and there was no clear winner, and we were past the deadline. I was either going to randomize it, double lynch, or no lynch. However, more of you voted to abstain than to lynch a particular person, so in fairness this round, no one should have been lynched.

I'm sorry, but the responsibility rests on town to come up with a clear winner. And I do agree with you, GH. From now on, Vote: Abstain is not allowed. You must vote, and if you don't want a lynch, please vote: No lynch.


Rule change:

Vote: Abstain is prohibited as it is not technically a vote.
Vote: No lynch is acceptable however.
You must vote.

[shlin28]

GH seems to be talking and voting, thats good. So this round I'm gonna vote...QJC, for his cowardly dislike for killing people because there is a small chance they could be the killer.

Vote: Quintus JC

Let there be DEATHS! :devilish:

[Quintus.JC]

Logics Shlin. :thumbsdown:

We can't lose unless the traitor kills, and the traitor cannot win unless he kills. Why should we help him win?

If we vote for people to lynch then we have a small chance of killing the traitor, true. But I think the possibility of lynching a innocent townie is far higher than the former. Therefore the safest, although not the most exciting way is to avoid any lynches altogether until the traitor decides to show-up and actually do something for a change.

Maybe you have some other motive for my lynch other then seeing some blood?

[shlin28]

Pretending to be a diplomat has weakened your resolve my friend, where is the good old berserker who hungered for blood before?

Anyways, if you are such a firm believer in "no deaths", at least vote no lynch... :beam:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I encourage people, if they are going to be wishy-washy, to at least vote: No lynch so I know they've put in their two cents.

[shlin28]

Indeed, kids these days, no respect for the good old ways.

Back in the day, there were no "No Lynches"! We had to vote even if we have lynch our mothers! We don't have these wishy washy people preaching peace.. nope... not back then...

*sigh* Kids these days...

[Quintus.JC]

I'm not voting no lynch yet because I know in this game Day and Night phrase is combined and therefore longer than normal. Also I have lots of time on my hands since the holidays, so I'll sure to throw in my vote at whoever when I feel its the right time to do so.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Indeed, kids these days, no respect for the good old ways.

Back in the day, there were no "No Lynches"! We had to vote even if we have lynch our mothers! We don't have these wishy washy people preaching peace.. nope... not back then...

*sigh* Kids these days...

Yes, us old fogies gotta stick together.

[Quintus.JC]

Indeed, kids these days, no respect for the good old ways.

Back in the day, there were no "No Lynches"! We had to vote even if we have lynch our mothers! We don't have these wishy washy people preaching peace.. nope... not back then...

*sigh* Kids these days...

Welcome to the 21st century.

:clown:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Vote: Abstain is prohibited

Reenk will be so pleased. :laugh4:

[seireikhaan]

Vote: Quintus

You're awfully talkative, but seem to be hiding your motives and suspicions exceedingly closely.

[Reenk Roink]

Well this is different. Most games usually prohibit no lynch votes because it is so easy to avoid lynching (and makes it much harder for the Mafia). It takes a nice combination of abstains and maybe ties to get the result of a no lynch and so that route is much more satisfying. :yes:

Still, as a big proponent of the no lynch movement, I will use it. But not just yet, seireikhaan seems eager for a lynch, and that makes me eager for his... :inquisitive:

[seireikhaan]

Still, as a big proponent of the no lynch movement, I will use it. But not just yet, seireikhaan seems eager for a lynch, and that makes me eager for his... :inquisitive:
I suppose you have an alternative method of catching the traitor?:inquisitive:

[Quintus.JC]

Yeah Seriekhann seems especially eagar to see me die. Why does no one listen to me! The mafia cannot win unless he start killing, we are only helping him if we start killing each other.

FoS: Khann

[seireikhaan]

Yeah Seriekhann seems especially eagar to see me die. Why does no one listen to me! The mafia cannot win unless he start killing, we are only helping him if we start killing each other.

FoS: Khann
So you really think the traitor will not start killing if we do not lynch anyone? That's like playing prevent defense, it only prevents the town from winning.

Additionally, only through voting can we ferret out the mafia. Best example, methinks, is Prometheus. Myself, Reenk, and Pizzaguy, when it came down to actually having to lodge votes, voted very similarly. This game is following a similar pattern in that there are no early kills. Is the mafia(traitor) bribing others to join him?

Regardless, if we are to win, we MUST vote. If we do not, discussion is meaningless, as people can state whatever they want with near impunity. Make them back up their talk with conviction.

[Quintus.JC]

I suppose you have an alternative method of catching the traitor?:inquisitive:

Alright, alright... Vote: Khann. Happy now. :stare:

[seireikhaan]

Alright, alright... Vote: Khann. Happy now. :stare:
No.

You misspelled my name :whip:

[Quintus.JC]

Additionally, only through voting can we ferret out the mafia. Best example, methinks, is Prometheus. Myself, Reenk, and Pizzaguy, when it came down to actually having to lodge votes, voted very similarly. This game is following a similar pattern in that there are no early kills. Is the mafia(traitor) bribing others to join him?



Sorry but I wasn't part of Prometheus and have little idea of what had happen in that game, but I'll take a peek now.

[Quintus.JC]

Vote: seireikhaan

I prefer you old name:smash:

[Reenk Roink]

I suppose you have an alternative method of catching the traitor?

Discussion! Like right now, you are making yourself suspicious to me just by talking. And Quintus.JC is making himself suspicious to you just by talking.

Mafia are stupid; they will make blatant mistakes. The only question is if they will be caught...


Additionally, only through voting can we ferret out the mafia. Best example, methinks, is Prometheus. Myself, Reenk, and Pizzaguy, when it came down to actually having to lodge votes, voted very similarly. This game is following a similar pattern in that there are no early kills. Is the mafia(traitor) bribing others to join him?

That was one game, in which you and Pizzaguy always found yourselves in deep trouble EVERY round. :laugh4:

Seamus and I in Mafia V never voted together except once. Proletariat and I in Rise of the Mob never voted together at all.