View Full Version : Netherland is confirmed! And requirements!
General SupaCrunk
12-03-2008, 20:47
United Provinces
The United Provinces are a Protestant stronghold in North-western Europe, a place where science, trade and freedom of thought have flourished since the Spanish were driven out in the last century. Having tamed their land and held back the sea, the Dutch have also embraced the sea and become the foremost naval power in the world. A mere generation ago, the Dutch navy sailed into the Thames and burned the English fleet at anchor: this kind of bravado and expertise is not quickly forgotten.
Dutch merchantmen range across the world’s oceans, and the wealth of the world passes through Dutch ports. Dutchmen can be found trading in the Indies, where they give the locals a run for their money, and the Caribbean. They are everywhere, in fact, where there is a profit to be made. Spanish claims to the New World and its trade are cheerfully ignored, as are Spanish threats. The Dutch have learned to live with Hapsburg threats hanging over their heads. Having beaten off brutal attempts to bring them to heel, the Dutch now have little love for Hapsburg-ruled Spain or Austria. A distant Catholic emperor holds no appeal for them. An expansionist France, on the other hand, does bear watching, and guarding against.
Other rivals close at hand are now less of a threat than they used to be. The British have been… tamed is too strong a word… brought to their senses by having a good, honest Dutchman on their throne. William III of Orange was an acceptable Protestant ruler for the British when they needed one. His presence has done much to calm relations, especially as the equally-mercantile British have designs on world trade that should rightfully be Dutch!
For the future, the Dutch have much to be hopeful about. They have a strong navy, and a tradition of victory. There is wealth aplenty in every corner of the world, if only the Dutch have the will to go and take it!
http://80.64.58.53/games/uploaded/units/United%20Provinces_1228324029_4764.jpg
Here are the minimum specs for Empire: Total War:
2.4Ghz single core processor
256MB Gfx card (DX9 compaitble)
1GB RAM (For XP, 2GB if using Vista)
It will run on my computer!!!!! :beam::beam::beam:
TevashSzat
12-03-2008, 20:52
Here are the minimum specs for Empire: Total War:
2.4Ghz single core processor
256MB Gfx card (DX9 compaitble)
1GB RAM (For XP, 2GB if using Vista)
It will run on my computer!!!!! :beam::beam::beam:
Wow, that seems really really low there. The processor is extremely low there since 2.4Ghz single core would be considered antiquated for a couple years now.
The videocard and RAM seems okay though
Wow, that is low; my system's two years old so I was half expecting not to be able to run Empire, but in fact I think I have at least double the minimum requirements in every component.
I almost wonder whether those specs are a little on the optimistic side? My computer starts to struggle in large sieges on M2TW and Empire looks like it's going to be a lot prettier (and thus resource-intensive), so I'm doubtful that it'll run smoothly on my system.
General SupaCrunk
12-03-2008, 21:11
Same as mine!
Mailman653
12-03-2008, 21:15
I always tried to strike a balance between medium and high settings with MTW2. I think those requirements are pretty forgiving, I look forward to seeing how much I can push my PC before it lags.
Hooahguy
12-03-2008, 21:31
yeah! i can run it!
Megas Methuselah
12-03-2008, 21:55
Time to check my specs. They were always high enough not to worry about, but it never hurts to be sure...
Sol Invictus
12-03-2008, 21:55
Those do seem like very low specs. My two year old comp has twice the juice as those mins; which I am hoping will allow me to run ETW a notch below highest settings. I would really love to avoid having to upgrade for this, though I will if need be.
Outstanding news -- both about the Dutch being playable, and the relatively low system requirements. ~:cheers:
I'm guessing that you'll have to turn down and/or disable most of the graphical options in order to run it on the minimum specs. Nevertheless, it's still better than I'd dared hope for -- it makes me think that perhaps I'll actually be able to run ETW on moderately high settings. I hope, I hope....
As for the Dutch, it'll be very interesting to see how they play. While focusing on the navy and colonial expansion is the obvious rout, being in close proximity to France will also force one to maintain a fairly strong army for home defense.
seireikhaan
12-04-2008, 00:09
Just remember one big thing, folks. System requirements can be VERY different from system recommendations. Recommendations are what you'll want to meet to run the game decently enough, such as mid level settings.
Just remember one big thing, folks. System requirements can be VERY different from system recommendations. Recommendations are what you'll want to meet to run the game decently enough, such as mid level settings.
This right here.
If you only have 1g of RAM you may want to look at getting another stick just for insurance. Meeting the bare minimum for a game as far as RAM is concerned will let you run it, but don't be surprised if you run into hardware issues. Not to worry, though. In the last few years the price of RAM has dropped significantly. :yes:
For all of us who may be looking at barely having the requirements, we've got until Feb to get our comps ready. Best of luck! :laugh4:
Megas Methuselah
12-04-2008, 02:08
In the last few years the price of RAM has dropped significantly. :yes:
:dizzy2: Why?
Belgolas
12-04-2008, 04:24
Yup ram is so cheap now except for DDR3 whitch is still expensive.
Well it looks like I beat the minimum lol....
4ghz i7 920 cpu
6gb DDR3
4870 X2 2gb(1GB useable) Maybe I can get medium settings :p. I am soo excited!
Plus I get to play as the Dutch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
why does vista always use more RAM? (and i dont want the answer "because vista is a stupid operating system. more detail, please).
That said, this is great news-a nice economy/naval state, and ill be able to run empire on moderately high settings!
You never look at the minimum specs anyway. You look at recommended ones, and usually even that is not enough. This has been a true hard solid fact for how long now, for over 10 years?
why does vista always use more RAM? (and i dont want the answer "because vista is a stupid operating system. more detail, please).
I don't really know the details but just because they say you should have 1GB more I wouldn't say it uses 1GB more, it uses a bit more but I never felt it had that much of an impact. After playing a game it usually uses less than before so my guess is it gives the game a bit more RAM when required.
Of course that is wrong because I'm stupid and so is Vista but then it works fine on both my computers.
You never look at the minimum specs anyway. You look at recommended ones, and usually even that is not enough. This has been a true hard solid fact for how long now, for over 10 years?
Yes, pretty much, you may be able to watch a dia show of what looks similar to Shogun Total War if you meet the minimum specs. :dizzy2:
Good news!!!
Tha Dutch will kick your ass!!!
why does vista always use more RAM? (and i dont want the answer "because vista is a stupid operating system. more detail, please).
That said, this is great news-a nice economy/naval state, and ill be able to run empire on moderately high settings!
There's a few reasons but one of the big ones is because of Aero, the GUI that vista uses. A low end system that only has 1g of RAM, while technically able to run Vista, won't run it very well (I should know, I tried!) alone. You'll see long load times and frequent lock ups just because you don't have the resources to run effectively. When I tried to run Vista on this aging beast and saw how horrible it did, I couldn't even imagine trying to play TW on it. My comp may have committed seppuku if i even attempted it.
For more information on this subject you should try google, or even pose the question to the guys and gals who lurk the Hardware & Software section here at the .org. I'm sure they'd love to tell you all the reasons Vista needs more system resources than XP. ~D
BUT NOW BACK TO TOPIC!
Good news seeing another faction confirmed.. but still no news on Russia. Come on CA, don't leave the Motherland out of this as far as playability goes! :beam:
I've no worries on Russia. I think CA is just taking their time confirming them as a playable faction, is all. (Personally, I predict Prussia or Spain will be the next faction to be revealed.) ~:)
Terraforce
12-04-2008, 18:31
2.4Ghz single core processor
256MB Gfx card (DX9 compatible)
1GB RAM (For XP, 2GB if using Vista)
http://www.sega.com/empire/gameinfo/news.php?n=2741
Excellent I just meet them, I still will get an upgrade though.
Merged with existing thread on same topic.
The minimum system spec above can run the game... in single player... with autoresolve battles...
Annie
Julius_Nepos
12-04-2008, 20:27
Well let's see I have a 2.4 Ghz dual Core Athlon 64 X2 4800+, a 512MB GeForce 7950 GT and 2GB of RAM, I'm sure the game will run at least at 3.7FPS and if I'm lucky I'll probably hear sound, from time to time. Oh well, at least I know my old machine will RUN the game, that's a plus in of itself. At any rate, the min-specs don't seem too hefty, but surely I wish I had a whole lot of spare cash to really upgrade my machine too. I'll probably need to avoid custom battles involving 20000 men and so forth for a while. Alas, such is life.
CrackedAxe
12-05-2008, 20:18
If ETW is running on the same engine as MTW II then maybe the necessary specs won't be high. Still, even MTW II wouldn't have run well with maxed graphics and unit sizes on the reqs mentioned. Those specs must be the bare minimum to play with graphics and unit size set to lowest possible.
CrackedAxe
12-05-2008, 20:21
There's a few reasons but one of the big ones is because of Aero, the GUI that vista uses. A low end system that only has 1g of RAM, while technically able to run Vista, won't run it very well (I should know, I tried!) alone. You'll see long load times and frequent lock ups just because you don't have the resources to run effectively. When I tried to run Vista on this aging beast and saw how horrible it did, I couldn't even imagine trying to play TW on it. My comp may have committed seppuku if i even attempted it.
You can disable all of Aero's fancy bells and whistles if you're running Vista on a low end system and having performace problems with games.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
12-05-2008, 20:52
256MB Radeon X1300 card,2.8 GHZ, 512 RAM.
Now I need more RAM, which I'm going to upgrade to 1 Gig, Maybe 1.5-2 Gig Of RAM. Will My Video Card be fine with it? It was with M2TW....
TevashSzat
12-05-2008, 20:59
256MB Radeon X1300 card,2.8 GHZ, 512 RAM.
Now I need more RAM, which I'm going to upgrade to 1 Gig, Maybe 1.5-2 Gig Of RAM. Will My Video Card be fine with it? It was with M2TW....
Technically it would be fine, but I wouldn't expect the performance to be too great when playing ETW. I would think that one would probably need a mid range DX10 card like a Nvidia 8600GT or the ATI Radeon 3650 or something like that to play the game pretty comfortably
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
12-05-2008, 21:01
Well If I get about 1.5-2 Gig of RAM plus put settings on low, I can play it fine I think. Not Real Good, but good enough to play MP.
If ETW is running on the same engine as MTW II then maybe the necessary specs won't be high. Still, even MTW II wouldn't have run well with maxed graphics and unit sizes on the reqs mentioned. Those specs must be the bare minimum to play with graphics and unit size set to lowest possible.
It's said that ETW will use completely new engine. Though, Infinity Ward claims using completely new engine with Call of Duty 4 too. However, that engine has some code from Quake III: Team Arena (or just id Tech 3).
Megas Methuselah
12-06-2008, 21:13
I'm scared now. I've only got 2.27 GHz (dual core), Nvidia GeForce 9600 GT (512 MB RAM), & 4 Gigs'o RAM. Do you guys think my processor will bring my performance down significantly? ~:mecry:
seireikhaan
12-06-2008, 23:50
I'm scared now. I've only got 2.27 GHz (dual core), Nvidia GeForce 9600 GT (512 MB RAM), & 4 Gigs'o RAM. Do you guys think my processor will bring my performance down significantly? ~:mecry:
You'll probably have some slowdown issues with any kind of heavy forests, possibly towns as well depending on how those get laid out. If you get into any REALLY massive battles, you might run into issues also. However, I'm not quite an expert on the issue.
Belgolas
12-07-2008, 00:59
I'm scared now. I've only got 2.27 GHz (dual core), Nvidia GeForce 9600 GT (512 MB RAM), & 4 Gigs'o RAM. Do you guys think my processor will bring my performance down significantly? ~:mecry:
I think you will be fine on medium settings. This game is going to be more optimized then medieval 2. I would say wait till the game comes out then decide if you want/need to upgrade. By that time hardware prices will be cheaper and you could get a better computer for the same price if you bought today.
CrackedAxe
12-07-2008, 13:00
I'm scared now. I've only got 2.27 GHz (dual core), Nvidia GeForce 9600 GT (512 MB RAM), & 4 Gigs'o RAM. Do you guys think my processor will bring my performance down significantly? ~:mecry:
Surely that CPU is 2x 2.27 Ghz, which is almost twice the quoted specs as they state 'single core'. I really don't think you'll have a problem with that system on medium settings, even for large battles. If you did, then the devs are going to have a problem with sales. According to a recent Nvidia survey over 60% of PC gamers still have single core CPU's and rather mid to low specs. I'm betting the devs are smarter than to req themselves out of the market.
You never look at the minimum specs anyway. You look at recommended ones, and usually even that is not enough.
Amen to that. CA always leaves gobs of room for future PC enhancements.
Megas Methuselah
12-07-2008, 18:29
Surely that CPU is 2x 2.27 Ghz
I'm not sure, how can you tell? It's a Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8400, btw...
I'm not sure, how can you tell? It's a Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8400, btw...
Eh, you said dual core and since it's a Core 2 Duo it is certainly a dual core and he is right.
guys i could run me2 at high settings and only time it bog down when i tryed massive battle with around 12000 or more men fighting i have quad core 6700 4 gig ram 2 8800gtx in sli with 2 10000 speed raptor hard drives . From what yall have seen where do you think this will go thanks
Megas Methuselah
12-07-2008, 19:28
A little bird told me you can murder Empires with a blink of your eye. :yes:
Yeah, I was concerned about my processor. Thanks for the help, guys.
Dutch_guy
12-07-2008, 22:13
guys i could run me2 at high settings and only time it bog down when i tryed massive battle with around 12000 or more men fighting
I think you just answered your own question right there.
:balloon2:
guys i could run me2 at high settings and only time it bog down when i tryed massive battle with around 12000 or more men fighting i have quad core 6700 4 gig ram 2 8800gtx in sli with 2 10000 speed raptor hard drives . From what yall have seen where do you think this will go thanks
Oh, Im so sorry to be the one tell you this. Your computer is to slow. Its nothing but a miracle that you can play even ME2 on that computer... :inquisitive:
TevashSzat
12-07-2008, 22:44
guys i could run me2 at high settings and only time it bog down when i tryed massive battle with around 12000 or more men fighting i have quad core 6700 4 gig ram 2 8800gtx in sli with 2 10000 speed raptor hard drives . From what yall have seen where do you think this will go thanks
/sarcasm
What the hell? The intel i7 965 has been out for 3 weeks already and you still don't have it? Quad cores are a joke when compared to it.
4 Gigs? Hell, you can get 16 gigs on some computers already.....4 gigs is so last year
Also, why didn't you upgrade your GPUs already? You should have at least Crossfire 4870 X2s by now....
You would be lucky to run ETW on min resolution with min settings with at max 2 men on the field....
/end sarcasm
Alexander the Pretty Good
12-07-2008, 22:51
TevashSzat - my suitemate is building your sarcastic computer, just with 3 nVidias instead of 2 ATI's. :P
Belgolas
12-08-2008, 02:24
2 months, 1 day and 17 hours till the game comes out :)
Well when i fixed this one i was going to buy a falcon northwest mach 5 to play med2 . did not want it to bog down like my last compute did .
I'm contemplating upgrading my video card. I *really* don't want to, as I'm paranoid about a new card not being able to run Shogun and MTW (which I still play), but I only barely meet the requirements as it is right now.
I suppose if nothing else, I can try out the demo (whenever it comes out) and see how well my computer handles it. I can then make a decision after that. :sweatdrop:
@Martok: I believe ATi, much as I loathe their hardware (they're just not as good as nVidia...), is probably the video card company of choice for you if you want to upgrade and still play STW and MTW.
But in any case: Hell, I think even MTW2 had steeper requirements than that (IIRC)! Even I was worried about having to upgun my two-year-old rig for ETW on max settings. Then I remembered it's playing Dead Space in all its horrifying glory on max settings =P
But wow, I didn't know that about the Dutch Navy burning the British Fleet at anchor...I must read up on that. The Dutch shall be among the first of my conquests... (insert evil laugh here)
Hehehe...I will have just enough money to buy another set of computer parts, to smoothly run ETW on both machines for a mere $500 at medium high settings on one, high to very high an another. This of course means I must cannibalize a third computer, but eh, sacrifices must be made :shrug:
TevashSzat
12-09-2008, 20:46
I loathe their hardware (they're just not as good as nVidia...)
That would be true maybe 6 months ago, but it is hardly the case now.
The ATI Radeon 4870 X2 easily beats the Nvidia GTX 280 in terms of performance. Also, Nvidia doesn't seem to have any plans of releasing a videocard that can beat the 4870 X2 anytime close in the future
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
12-09-2008, 23:50
My comp can run it, just need to cut down settings like I had to do for M2TW MP.
Belgolas
12-10-2008, 06:04
@Martok: I believe ATi, much as I loathe their hardware (they're just not as good as nVidia...), is probably the video card company of choice for you if you want to upgrade and still play STW and MTW.
That simply isn't true. I have has plenty of cards from both companies and all of them were good except for one ATI card I had to RMA. Right now for price/performance you would get an ATI card. A year ago you would have gotten a Nvidea card. Things change about every six months. But if I could go back in time I would have got 2 GTX 280 in SLI instead of a 4870 X2 only because it is easier to find after market cooling for the 280. But that has nothing to do with what company is better. All in all just go for the best price/performance with a few minor variables included like warranty and heat/power. I just don't care about brand names anymore.
Oh and if ya want to continue playing STW then I would skip out on any modern computer because you will get graphical errors in STW. But it is still playable. Him though there is one thing I haven't tried yet and that is turning crossfire off. So maybe that will help. Well got to install STW again :p.
I suppose it depends what you play. My experience of ATi has been a much rockier road than my experience with nVidia - Knights of the Old Republic being the key example. I presume they've probably sorted this out in the years I've stuck with nVidia but back then their cards just couldn't make KotOR work right...something to do with OpenGL or whatnot (not just a Vista thing - this was before Vista was even released, though I suppose it can't help matters much). Got a nVidia, worked like a dream.
On the other hand, players of old Total War games had better experience with ATi. I believe they fixed their problems whereas nVidia didn't really bother. I'm sure it's somewhere on this forum or on twcenter that I read it...not sure, but this (http://shoguntotalwar.yuku.com/topic/10688/t/Warning-for-NVIDIA-graphics-users.html) is just one example. There was uproar on the nvidia forums about it too but their tech support gurus subscribe to the Apple iPod school of hardware support - 'They'll eventually shut up and get with the times. It's only an old game/model anyway.'
ATi, on the other hand, fixed the problem when it was brought up, which is why I advise them to anyone who wants to keep playing the old one when they upgrade...personally I've never taken the opportunity so I don't know what I'm missing :laugh4: all I know is they both crash when I try and load them up and it's apparently a problem with my nvidia's graphics card drivers. KotOR playability's more important to me than STW or MTW playability (I've never played them, only been playing since Rome which works dandy) so I just roll with it :P
gardibolt
12-12-2008, 21:35
I think you will be fine on medium settings. This game is going to be more optimized then medieval 2. I would say wait till the game comes out then decide if you want/need to upgrade. By that time hardware prices will be cheaper and you could get a better computer for the same price if you bought today.
I do hope that CA have done their optimization work properly, since M2TW only used one core of dual core machines---if Empire does that a dual core 2.2 isn't going to do you any good at all.
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