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LittleGrizzly
02-25-2009, 22:17
Tough days for the hoaxers
Yes they're beginning to look like the lackeys of the oil and coal industries and various others... some will still believe though...
LittleGrizzly
02-25-2009, 22:34
Must be that conspiracy theory flu you caught...
Must be that conspiracy theory flu you caught...
You mean the one in which governments raise all sorts of silly envirometl taxes because of fat useless enviroment-lobbyists?
LittleGrizzly
02-26-2009, 01:47
You mean the one in which governments raise all sorts of silly envirometl taxes because of fat useless enviroment-lobbyists?
No it is the one where people think that people on the payroll of Oil companies and others with various P.H.D's usually on the wrong subject know better than experts in thier field... crazy i know ~;)
No it is the one where people think that people on the payroll of Oil companies and others with various P.H.D's usually on the wrong subject know better than experts in thier field... crazy i know ~;)
tada http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/02/17/william-schlesinger-on-ipcc-something-on-the-order-of-20-percent-have-had-some-dealing-with-climate/
Furunculus
02-26-2009, 10:33
You mean the one in which governments raise all sorts of silly envirometl taxes because of fat useless enviroment-lobbyists?
No it is the one where people think that people on the payroll of Oil companies and others with various P.H.D's usually on the wrong subject know better than experts in thier field... crazy i know ~;)
is that the same army of world spanning super climate experts known as the IPCC, who were recently admitted to be composed of 80% non climate related people, and even less than that who might be considered climate specialists?
LittleGrizzly
02-26-2009, 17:10
Its not really about the percentage amount of climatologists in the IPCC, its about the fact that the vast majority of those studying the appropriate field say global warming is real, and the vast majority of people who say its not don't have thier qualifications in the right field...
Anyway i was simply making a joke as frag and one or two others who love calling it a conspiracy theory, so i was simply returning the favour... now you go and make things all serious ?!
can't we just get back to accusing each other of being conspiracy theorists and wearing tin foil hates and falling for the propaganda of the other side.. ~;)
I don't call it a conspiracy theory, I call it a religion, because that is what it is. Famous quote from a dutch Bishop to a feudal landlord 1400 or so: "you keep them poor and I'll keep them stupid".
LittleGrizzly
02-26-2009, 17:20
:laugh4:
Ok it was me that used conspiracy theorist... you called them hoaxers...
I call it a religion, because that is what it is.
If global warming can be a religion does that mean things like gravity and relativity and maths are all religions too ?
If global warming can be a religion does that mean things like gravity and relativity and maths are all religions too ?
They can be I guess, but that's sophism.
http://enigmanically.blogspot.com/2007/10/two-proofs-that-1-1-0.html
CITIZENS OF THE WORLD, WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE, I REPEAT, WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126921.500-one-last-chance-to-save-mankind.html
But I am already dead, acid rain finished me of in 2000, I am just a bit slow....
Seamus Fermanagh
02-27-2009, 17:19
CITIZENS OF THE WORLD, WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE, I REPEAT, WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE
Fragony, if you find some means of altering this, please don't tell anyone....you see, I sell life insurance....
Furunculus
03-03-2009, 15:16
Climate scientist generously admits that at least a portion of recent climate warming may be attributed to natural fluctuation:
“It is possible that a fraction of the most recent rapid warming since the 1970’s was due to a free variation in climate,” Isaac Held of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/03/02/cooler-heads-at-noaa-coming-around-to-natural-variability/
Furunculus
03-16-2009, 15:42
for some light relief, i give you the Guardians take on the ICCC 'deniers' conference:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/mar/12/climate-change-sceptic-environment
The 600 attendees (by the organisers' count) are almost entirely white males, and many, if not most, are past retirement age. Only two women and one African-American man figure on the programme of more than 70 speakers.
somehow this is incisive commentary on the quality of the attendees, and hence on the weight of their message.
:dizzy2:
HopAlongBunny
03-17-2009, 07:05
Couldn't vote for Bush.
WMD, in fact all of the reasons for invading Iraq were pretty much discredited on the media in Canada.
(well, okay one reason held up: Saddam was not a nice guy...doesn't get my support for an invasion)
Climate change is pretty much a fact: listened to an interview with an Inuit hunter in the far North; the ice is often unreadable ie: someone born, raised and taught how to live with the ice, doesn't feel safe on the ice; he sees flora and fauna his language has no words for...whatever is happening hasn't happened for a very, very, very long time; all of the "polar states" are accelerating their claims in the North because this baby is in play.
Worst part, Bush left a gift in the form of the financial collapse.
a completely inoffensive name
03-17-2009, 07:11
Worst part, Bush left a gift in the form of the financial collapse.
Please don't blame economic crisis's on the presidents that had the misfortune of having it begin during their term. It is one of the most common misconceptions in politics that annoys the heck of out me. Hoover did not single handily create the Great Depression and Bush did not single handily make this crisis either, these things are always formed over decades before they burst, most likely beginning even in the aftermath of the previous crisis.
he sees flora and fauna his language has no words for...
Here's why, goes like this "well son do you see that big white thing that is charging? That my son is a polar b-"
Alexander the Pretty Good
03-17-2009, 07:22
Heh, didn't previously see this thread. I was too young to vote for Bush but would've, at the time. I was a good little conservative Republican. The internet, cynicism, and Bush's policies themselves helped change that.
a completely inoffensive name
03-17-2009, 07:38
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HopAlongBunny
03-17-2009, 08:52
Please don't blame economic crisis's on the presidents that had the misfortune of having it begin during their term.
Granted Bush alone did not create the whole mess. The administration certainly saw the freight train coming, did nothing to slow it, and certainly provided the policies and tools to accelerate it. I stand corrected.
Strike For The South
03-17-2009, 08:54
Granted Bush alone did not create the whole mess. The administration certainly saw the freight train coming, did nothing to slow it, and certainly provided the policies and tools to accelerate it. I stand corrected.
As did every president, administration and congress going back to at least Carter.
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