Faces of History - how many can you name?

[Conqueror]

Found this wonderful picture that's just chock full of figures from ancient history to modern times. Do you spot familiar ones in the crowd?
https://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2025/culturalpaintingdv8.jpg

[Yoyoma1910]

That's really funny.


It looks like Putin is Mike Tyson's drinking buddy.

[KukriKhan]

A little more than half, I think. The guys on the balcony, on the right, are a complete mystery to me.

[Ferret]

:laugh4: at George Bush in that pic, how did he even get there?

[LittleGrizzly]

I didn't get too many.... a fair few were just educated guesses...

Is the tall black guy Jordan ?

Is the woman halfway across the picture Queen Victoria ?

Who is the woman next to the piano ? some famous actress im assuming ? audrey hepburn ?

The little girl ?

and which ones supposed to be ceasar ? i did have one down until i noticed the other 2...

Great picture!!

Is it supposed to be clinton at the back holding something ?

Edit: I can't find bush!

[Yoyoma1910]

A little more than half, I think. The guys on the balcony, on the right, are a complete mystery to me.

The guy in the bush is Dante, from Boticelli's portrait.

[Hooahguy]

the little girl is shirley temple, i think

[Rhyfelwyr]

What is that monstrocity next to Putin? It's like some kind of octoman.

[Hooahguy]

mike tyson

[lars573]

A little more than half, I think. The guys on the balcony, on the right, are a complete mystery to me.
The guy with the laruel wreath and the red robe is Martin Luther.



The little girl ?
Shirely Temple-Black.


and which ones supposed to be ceasar ? i did have one down until i noticed the other 2...
The guy next Arafat is supposed to be Caesar I think.

Anyone else find Hiedeki Tojo?

[Rhyfelwyr]

To the right of Putin. :laugh4:

[Yoyoma1910]

To Little Griz:


I didn't get too many.... a fair few were just educated guesses...

Is the tall black guy Jordan ?
Next to the Basketball, yes.

Is the woman halfway across the picture Queen Victoria ?

I think it's Elizabeth 2, Victoria had less squinty eyes


Who is the woman next to the piano ? some famous actress im assuming ? audrey hepburn ?

Yesh.

The little girl ?

Shirley Temple (as Hoohah guy said)

and which ones supposed to be ceasar ? i did have one down until i noticed the other 2...

Not sure, haven't found him

Great picture!!

Is it supposed to be clinton at the back holding something ?

Me Thineth so.

Edit: I can't find bush!

Top row... under somebody else, and looking for him.




Also, behind Elvis, I believe I see Bukowski drinking a beer.

[Quintus.JC]

That's a great picture there, how did you find it?

There's seems to be a lot of Chinese historical figures there... Any one knows who the balcony people are except Dante?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I like michael jordan just chillin out. And Osama marching off into th distance.

[drone]

Who's the guy flashing a gang sign next to Lincoln's head?

[Hosakawa Tito]

Nice find. That would make a great screen saver.:2thumbsup:

[CountArach]

Nice pic! I got several that I was quite surprised by.

[Yoyoma1910]

Another Update Thanks everyone for helping!!!



So, this is where I'm at with it right now..


https://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo312/mexico1910/culturalpaintingdv8Namessmaller-4.jpg


Let me know if I have anything wrong so far. I'll try and finish up tomorrow.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

The one next to Marx could be Nietzsche. Maybe.

[Yoyoma1910]

The one next to Marx could be Nietzsche. Maybe.

Right, and behind him, maybe Steinbeck?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

The soccer player on the left is pele.

And surely that's moses behind him with the scroll.

[Yoyoma1910]

The soccer player on the left is pele.

And surely that's moses behind him with the scroll.


No, I believe that's Socrates. And I have Pele already listed.


I've added a couple more names.


Thanks for the Nietzsche heads up.

[seireikhaan]

I believe the old man with the staff next to master Kong is supposed to be Moses. Also, I believe the man in the throne looking bored next to Guan Yu is Rameses of Egypt.

[Hosakawa Tito]

The person at Prince Charles left shoulder, playing the flute, looks like Nelson Mandela. The one tipping the bottle between FDR & Elvis looks like Hemmingway. The one standing below DeGaulle in the vest looks like Sun Yat-sen. And sitting at the table to Custer's left looks like Ferdinand Marcos.

[Strike For The South]

William Barret Travis next to FDR

[Yoyoma1910]

Also, I believe the man in the throne looking bored next to Guan Yu is Rameses of Egypt.

I've though about that, but there's no Pharonic Beard


The person at Prince Charles left shoulder, playing the flute, looks like Nelson Mandela. The one tipping the bottle between FDR & Elvis looks like Hemmingway.

I'm not sure if that Mandela, again because of the beard.

And that may be Hemingway, but I'm pretty sure that's Charles Bukowski. (http://bukowski.net/)
Edit: Then again, he is wearing a sweater, so maybe it is Hemingway.


William Barret Travis next to FDR

uh...

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

St. Peter might be a candidate for the shepherd in the front. Compare. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Pope-peter_pprubens.jpg)

[PBI]

I believe the old man with the staff next to master Kong is supposed to be Moses. Also, I believe the man in the throne looking bored next to Guan Yu is Rameses of Egypt.

Isn't it Xerxes, watching the destruction of his fleet at Salamis?

[Strike For The South]

uh...

NVM. He's in there though

[Hooahguy]

is that just me, or is that moses in the bottom, leading some sheep?

[Yoyoma1910]

NVM. He's in there though


Actually, I think that's Simone Bolivar.

[LittleGrizzly]

Im pretty sure its Kofi Annan (old un sec) next to prince charles... looks more like him than mandela imo...

the old guy between confucious and eisenhower might be Adam smith... looks fairly similar unless anyone has a better guess

also the jolly old guy next to jordan is ariel sharon i believe....

[Yoyoma1910]

Im pretty sure its Kofi Annan (old un sec) next to prince charles... looks more like him than mandela imo...

the old guy between confucious and eisenhower might be Adam smith... looks fairly similar unless anyone has a better guess

also the jolly old guy next to jordan is ariel sharon i believe....


I agree with Annan and Sharon. Not sure about Smith, though.

[Yoyoma1910]

Isn't it Xerxes, watching the destruction of his fleet at Salamis?

I don't know. All classical imagery of Xerxes had him with a grand beard.




Edit: Just Added Sharon, Annan, and Pu Yi (last emperor of China, hanging on first Emperor) to the image.


Edit2: Also, note this image of Sun Tzu:
https://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo312/mexico1910/SunTzu.jpg

Do you think the elderly man under castro may be him?

[LittleGrizzly]

Smith is a bit of a strech... don't think he wore glasses so might be wrong... keep in reserve i guess.....

Sun Tzu seems good enough... probably one of the few historical asians i know off...

[cmacq]

Whats the picture called; 'Party Down in Hell?'





CmacQ

[Megas Methuselah]

I hope not. It'd be a shame for Napoleon Bonaparte to be burning down yonder. He was so kool. :yes:

[Yoyoma1910]

I just looked it up, it's called Discussing the Divine Comedy with Dante. I can't find an answers page yet, though...

[shlin28]

The guy above Mao wearing the Mao suit I think is Zhou En Lai

[Joooray]

I think you got Picasso wrong. Although I don't know whos the guy with the picture in the front. I'm pretty sure that Picasso is the one to the right of Nitzsche.

Also I think the guy in front of Che is Beethoven.

[Quintus.JC]

List of Chinese historical figures I could see in the picture:
(Next to Pele) The guy in green robe with the long beard is Guan Yu, a top general in the three kingdoms and a famous character in dynasty warriors.
(Under Beethoven) The person in army uniform reading a book is Lei Feng, a model patriot soldier serving Chairman Mao.
(Above Churchill) Bruce Lee
(Under De Gule and Thatcher) Sun Yat-sen, Chinese revolutionary leader who played an instrumental role in bring down the last Chinese dynasty down.
(Beside Maxim Gorky) Deng Xiaoping, the Chinese revolutionist that abandoned dogmatic communist method and led to modern rich China.
(Next to Lincoln) Chairman Mao, the fellow above him is Zhou Enlai, the prominent Chinese foreign minister in the cold war.
(Next to Ghandi) Confucius
(Under Castro) I think its Laozi, but not sure.
(Next to Prince Charles) The lady is Empress Dowager Cixi, powerful conservative ruler (through her son and nephew) of the last few decade of the Qing dynasty
The Chinese general on the far right side is probably Yue Fei.

There’s the first emperor somewhere in the picture, the guy kneeling is either the last emperor Pu Yi, or he looks like Tojo to me. Don’t know about the old man behind him.
The three men on the balcony is a mystery to me. Same as the photographer on the right side and the man next to mother Theresa. The horseman next to Napoleon looks Chinese but I’m not sure whom he is.

[shlin28]

Hmmmmm... the more I think about it the more the guy Yoyoma labelled as "Yao" looks like Liu Xiang, instead of Yao Ming.

Edit: The guy next to Elizabeth II I think is Chiang Kai shek (Jiang Jie Shi), leader of the KMT.

Also, the guy Yoyoma labelled as Marcos is Deng Xiaoping, as QCJ said above.

[Hosakawa Tito]

is that just me, or is that moses in the bottom, leading some sheep?

Could be Noah too. I think the one behind Einstein, playing the accordian, is Leo Tolstoy.

[cmacq]

I just looked it up, it's called Discussing the Divine Comedy with Dante. I can't find an answers page yet, though...

So, if they're discussing the Divine Comedy with Dante, what Circle of Hell would that be???
Right, now I get it, each little goup of faces, are their own little Circle in Hell. Nice touch. Imagine that, an artist with a sense of humor? Although... it kind of reminds me of the Dogs Playing Poker picture.


CmacQ

[drone]

Why would Pele be in Hell? :inquisitive:

[cmacq]

Do you see him in the picture???




CmacQ

[Yoyoma1910]

The guy above Mao wearing the Mao suit I think is Zhou En Lai

Check.


List of Chinese historical figures I could see in the picture:
(Next to Pele) The guy in green robe with the long beard is Guan Yu, a top general in the three kingdoms and a famous character in dynasty warriors.
(Under Beethoven) The person in army uniform reading a book is Lei Feng, a model patriot soldier serving Chairman Mao.
(Above Churchill) Bruce Lee
(Under De Gule and Thatcher) Sun Yat-sen, Chinese revolutionary leader who played an instrumental role in bring down the last Chinese dynasty down.
(Beside Maxim Gorky) Deng Xiaoping, the Chinese revolutionist that abandoned dogmatic communist method and led to modern rich China.
(Next to Lincoln) Chairman Mao, the fellow above him is Zhou Enlai, the prominent Chinese foreign minister in the cold war.
(Next to Ghandi) Confucius
(Under Castro) I think its Laozi, but not sure.
(Next to Prince Charles) The lady is Empress Dowager Cixi, powerful conservative ruler (through her son and nephew) of the last few decade of the Qing dynasty
The Chinese general on the far right side is probably Yue Fei.

There’s the first emperor somewhere in the picture, the guy kneeling is either the last emperor Pu Yi, or he looks like Tojo to me. Don’t know about the old man behind him.
The three men on the balcony is a mystery to me. Same as the photographer on the right side and the man next to mother Theresa. The horseman next to Napoleon looks Chinese but I’m not sure whom he is.

Thatnks, I had gotten or been given a couple of them, but you helped out an amazing amount. Also thanks for Gorky, that's his head on a famous Custer pose (http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:NjM8Uw5fmkyfcM:http://www.old-picture.com/civil-war/pictures/General-George-Custer-001.jpg).

I'm pretty sure that's Qin Shi Huang being hung upon.

I don't know if it's Yu Fei, but I'm mainly basing that off of the armor, and lack of giant beard I've seen him portaryed with.


And who's the guy with just the head next to Lenin?




Hmmmmm... the more I think about it the more the guy Yoyoma labelled as "Yao" looks like Liu Xiang, instead of Yao Ming.

Edit: The guy next to Elizabeth II I think is Chiang Kai shek (Jiang Jie Shi), leader of the KMT.

Also, the guy Yoyoma labelled as Marcos is Deng Xiaoping, as QCJ said above.


Thank you so much.




I think you got Picasso wrong. Although I don't know whos the guy with the picture in the front. I'm pretty sure that Picasso is the one to the right of Nitzsche.

Also I think the guy in front of Che is Beethoven.
A & B) That's definitely possible. Perhaps it's Braque.
C) I'm pretty sure that's Beethoven on piano to the left. Note the hair and red scarf often seen in portraits of him.


Could be Noah too. I think the one behind Einstein, playing the accordian, is Leo Tolstoy.
Completely Agree

[Hooahguy]

Could be Noah too. I think the one behind Einstein, playing the accordian, is Leo Tolstoy.
but wouldnt he have had an ark near him? moses was a shepard, after all.

[Yoyoma1910]

Do you see him in the picture???




CmacQ


He's all the way to the left.



Also, The Divine Comedy consisted of Three Parts: Inferno, Purgatorio, and Paradiso.

[cmacq]

I'm sure with all the undergloom, that's no Limbo nor heaven. Overall that gang looks very Hell-Bent. Maybe, that footballer just hung around with the wrong kinds.



CmacQ

[PBI]

I'm sure with all the undergloom, that's no Limbo nor heaven. Overall that gang looks very Hell-Bent. Maybe, that footballer just hung around with the wrong kinds.



CmacQ

Huh?

What would Ghandi and Mother Teresa be doing in hell?

[Hosakawa Tito]

but wouldnt he have had an ark near him? moses was a shepard, after all.

If one looks closely he has the reins of the camel in his hand, there's also a cow,dragon fly, cat & 2 doves flanking that camel. He also is carrying a staff and not a shepherd's crook, nor is he carrying a stone tablet. Just speculation...

Here's a link (http://www.chekim.com/blog/2008/04/12/discussion-with-dante/#more-201)
with a table that has most names.

[Hooahguy]

o man... didnt see the camel...

[Yoyoma1910]

Here's a link (http://www.chekim.com/blog/2008/04/12/discussion-with-dante/#more-201)
with a table that has most names.



Must.... not ..... look........argh....

[Yoyoma1910]

I'm sure with all the undergloom, that's no Limbo nor heaven. Overall that gang looks very Hell-Bent. Maybe, that footballer just hung around with the wrong kinds.



CmacQ

Shoos away the pointlessly grey clouds.

I imagine its actually referring to the divine comedy that is man, since many of those people are not dead.

[cmacq]

Huh?

What would Ghandi and Mother Teresa be doing in hell?

Right,

maybe it’s like when Homer due to his want for the 'forbidden doughnut' discovered that Flanders was actually the Devil. And... Flanders said; 'sometimes Homer, its the ones you least expect?'

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/thumb/2/27/Flandersdevil.gif/200px-Flandersdevil.gif

And... you mean, 'those people are not dead... yet,' as in the painting I think the cloudless, but gloomy sky is a bit more underearthy-brown than dingy-grey.

[Pannonian]

Is the woman halfway across the picture Queen Victoria ?

Who is the woman next to the piano ? some famous actress im assuming ? audrey hepburn ?

I recognised four women in the picture. The giraffe with a crown is Elizabeth II, the blonde is Marilyn Monroe, the one next to the piano is Audrey Hepburn from her Breakfast at Tiffany's poster, and the Mad Woman (aka Thatcher). There's a fifth, who I presume is Empress Dowager Ci Xi. Oh, almost forgot Mother Teresa.

[Yoyoma1910]

Right,

maybe it’s like when Homer due to his want for the 'forbidden doughnut' discovered that Flanders was actually the Devil. And... Flanders said; 'sometimes Homer, its the ones you least expect?'

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/thumb/2/27/Flandersdevil.gif/200px-Flandersdevil.gif

And... you mean, 'not dead... yet,' as in the painting I think the cloudless, but gloomy sky is a bit more underearthy-brown than garish-grey.

There are clouds painted in the sky.

[cmacq]

There are clouds painted in the sky.


You're right, then Hell does have clouds?

[Hosakawa Tito]

A little more than half, I think. The guys on the balcony, on the right, are a complete mystery to me.

Besides Dante, the three men on the balcony are the Chinese artists, Dai Dudu, Li Tiezi, and Zhang An, that created this.

[Yoyoma1910]

You're right, then Hell does have clouds?


Or maybe the artist doesn't come from a religious or philosophical background that recognizes the Christian idea of Hell.

[Hosakawa Tito]

Or maybe the artist doesn't come from a religious or philosophical background that recognizes the Christian idea of Hell.

The artists are Chinese, which explains why Tojo is kneeling/supplicating before Qin Shi Huang.:laugh4:

Also, the one you have listed as Valasquez is actually Peter The Great. My guess is that the Pharoah is Rameses II, but could also be Tut.

[Yoyoma1910]

The artists are Chinese, which explains why Tojo is kneeling/supplicating before Qin Shi Huang.:laugh4:

Also, the one you have listed as Valasquez is actually Peter The Great. My guess is that the Pharoah is Rameses II, but could also be Tut.


You're right about Peter...


I was looking at the site you linked, and I'm not sure about some of the choices they themselves have speculated on.

[Quintus.JC]

The artists are Chinese, which explains why Tojo is kneeling/supplicating before Qin Shi Huang.:laugh4:


So I've noticed, there's an unusual large amount of Chinese figures present. Not saying that they are unimportant in history but most Westerners have little ideas about people like Laozi and Empress Dowger Ci Xi. Not to mention the sportsmen and the balcony fellows.

[Hosakawa Tito]

You're right about Peter...


I was looking at the site you linked, and I'm not sure about some of the choices they themselves have speculated on.

Yeah, I'm not either. They're just speculating/educated guessing same as us. Part of the key, however, is to think/see things through the Chinese artist's eyes. Didn't someone else here speculate that the artist was Asian? If so they were spot on.

I can't believe that Michaelangelo or Darwin aren't in this picture. I'm speculating that the guy in the robe *with a chisel?* on the right of Cao Cao is Michaelangelo.

My wife claims the man between Gandhi & Van Gogh is the French sculptor Rodin.

[Quintus.JC]

Yeah, I'm not either. They're just speculating/educated guessing same as us. Part of the key, however, is to think/see things through the Chinese artist's eyes. Didn't someone else here speculate that the artist was Asian? If so they were spot on.

I can't believe that Michaelangelo or Darwin aren't in this picture. I'm speculating that the guy in the robe *with a chisel?* on the right of Cao Cao is Michaelangelo.

Where's Cao Cao?

Who's the guy holding the food above Mao?

Edit: just noticed the godfather... lol.

[Hosakawa Tito]

Here you go, Quintus.


Another Update Thanks everyone for helping!!!



So, this is where I'm at with it right now..


https://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo312/mexico1910/culturalpaintingdv8Namessmaller-4.jpg


Let me know if I have anything wrong so far. I'll try and finish up tomorrow.

[Yoyoma1910]

Sorry double post instead of edit... argh.

[Yoyoma1910]

Yeah, I'm not either. They're just speculating/educated guessing same as us. Part of the key, however, is to think/see things through the Chinese artist's eyes. Didn't someone else here speculate that the artist was Asian? If so they were spot on.

I can't believe that Michaelangelo or Darwin aren't in this picture. I'm speculating that the guy in the robe *with a chisel?* on the right of Cao Cao is Michaelangelo.

I think that might be right... I'm trying to find the image its based off of to confirm though.



My wife claims the man between Gandhi & Van Gogh is the French sculptor Rodin.


I've been debating with myself whether it were he or Donatello.

[Quintus.JC]

Another Update Thanks everyone for helping!!!



So, this is where I'm at with it right now..


https://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo312/mexico1910/culturalpaintingdv8Namessmaller-4.jpg


Let me know if I have anything wrong so far. I'll try and finish up tomorrow.

Nice one Yoyoma.

Here's my thoughts...

Not sure about Picasso, the fellow next to Steinbeck looks rather like Picasso to me. Although the Picasso you labelled did have a Picasso’s picture with him.
Also not sure about Cao Cao, the Chinese normally portrayal him as an intellectual, instead of a military man. He could be Sun Tzu, but the armour seems too advanced for his age.
I’m sure the Valasquez fellow is actually Peter the great of Russia.
The man above Einstein is positively Leo Tolstory.
The old man next to Qin 1st is either Mozi, Zhuangzi, or Wenzi, all of whom are famous Chinese philosophers in the Spring-Autum/Warring states period of China.
The horseman beside Napoleon doesn’t look like Genghis Khan to me, although that’s just personal opinion, plus the armour looks like Han-period armour rather than 12th century Mongol armour.

The following two finding I own to my mother:
The fellow with glasses on the left side of Freud is Norman Bethune, a Canadian physicist famous for his contributions in the Spanish civil war and more famously the Sino-Japanese and Chinese civil war.
The Pol Pot guy is actually madam Soong Ching-ling (according to the mom), the wife of Sun Yat-sen.

List of people I desperately want to know:
The guy holding the food above Mao, he looks like an Roman/Greek slave type of guy.
The man under the table beside Putin, who is he?
The Chinese fellow having the drink and having a fit, who is he?
Who the heck are the balcony Asians?

[cmacq]

Or maybe the artist doesn't come from a religious or philosophical background that recognizes the Christian idea of Hell.

Tell me again why they called it, 'Discussing the Divine Comedy with Dante?'



CmacQ

[drone]

I'm somewhat disappointed that the artists didn't paint Waldo in there.

[Hosakawa Tito]

The man under the table beside Putin, who is he?


I'm going to guess... Lewis Carroll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Carroll)

[Yoyoma1910]

I'm going to reupdate the image when I get home tonight. He's a couple I'm not convinced on though:



The following two finding I own to my mother:
The fellow with glasses on the left side of Freud is Norman Bethune, a Canadian physicist famous for his contributions in the Spanish civil war and more famously the Sino-Japanese and Chinese civil war.

I've never seen an image of Bethune wearing glasses, so that makes me believe it isn't him.


Edit: Found one!



I'm going to guess... Lewis Carroll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Carroll)

Lewis Carroll always looks really really sad in ever photo of him I've ever seen.

For some reason, I think that's an actor that I just can't place, possibly from the silent movie era... But I know I've seen that face before.

[naut]

Is that Freud standing next to Tyson.

Looks like Mussolini next to Saddam.

If I'm not mistaken Henry Ford is next to Charlie Chaplin.

I love how Marlon Brando is just chilling with Che and Fidel. Hehe.

[Jolt]

Also not sure about Cao Cao, the Chinese normally portrayal him as an intellectual, instead of a military man. He could be Sun Tzu, but the armour seems too advanced for his age.

That would definetly be Sun Tzu. Cao Cao is rather unknown outside China, whereas Sun Tzu is known everywhere. Guan Yu has been a major diety of China since the Ming (Or was it Tang?), so it's normal he's in there. I have sincere doubts about that being Cao Cao.

[Quirinus]

Who on earth is that Chinese bloke throwing his head back having a fit?

[Celtic_Punk]

Is that maggie thatcher?! oh what I would have given to have been that security guard when she dropped at that speech... just to have gotten a few quick ones in you know? for those 200 lads.

[Hosakawa Tito]

Who on earth is that Chinese bloke throwing his head back having a fit?

According to one blog I've read he's a Chinese philosopher named Mozi. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozi)

The same blog speculates that the one behind Lincoln giving that three fingered sign is Steven Spielberg, and the one sitting at the table to Freud's left is B.F. Skinner.

No one seems to have any idea who the man with the stethoscope standing at the table next to Freud is. *Edit* Another speculator states the man with the stethoscope is Canadian physician Norman Bethune (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Bethune)