In Arab culture, throwing shoes is a grave sign of disrespect [Archive]

Tribesman

12-15-2008, 00:00

Funny as **** .
Who remembers the TV footage of Saddams statues and the shoes with the commentator saying locals shoes really show the contempt for Saddam and his policies ?:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
But antway since Bush is celebrating the provisional acceptance of Iraqi(Iranian) terms how does that leave all the other members of the coilition of the gullible once January comes around ?

On another note both shoes struck the American flag , showing such disrespect to the banner of freedom surely deserves a response in the strongest manner possible , hence I put forward the motion that all freedom loving American patriots should apply pressure to their reprasentatives to invade Iraq now , especially as it is rumoured that the shoes in question had insoles to fight odour and as such would contain chemicals that are on the UN proscribed list for Iraq .
These shoes in the wrong feet could be turned into weapons of mass destruction , we must act now in case Iraqi journalists join with Al-Qaida and before you know it the good citizens of NY will be bombarded with terrorist shoes on the MTA....for the sake of freedom invade Iraq now or we will be facing shoes in our own homelands tomorrow .
Now some of you liberal weenyanti american cheese eating surrender monkeys might say that the link between journalist and Al-qaida is weak , but I ask you to google for facts andyou will discover that the overwhelming majority of Al-qaida links you find originate with journalists .
That is irrefutable evidenc of the link between journalists and Al-qaida , one manifestation of which you have just witnessed on you-tube .
Act now .

Crazed Rabbit

12-15-2008, 00:39

Great gif Sasaki.

I have to hand it to George, he dodged that pretty well.

And he had an appropriate reaction after the whole incident too.

CR

CountArach

12-15-2008, 00:46

I think the Journalist did well to get to his second shoe.

Louis VI the Fat

12-15-2008, 00:59

Impressive reflexes! Bush is dodging that shoe almost as well as he dodged service in Vietnam!

Alexanderofmacedon

12-15-2008, 00:59

Hilarious and well deserved.

Marshal Murat

12-15-2008, 01:17

Evidently Bush does have fighter pilot reflexes.

Sarmatian

12-15-2008, 02:28

:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4: How can you not love ol' George

Evil_Maniac From Mars

12-15-2008, 03:49

Impressive reflexes! Bush is dodging that shoe almost as well as he dodged service in Vietnam!

Zing!

Husar

12-15-2008, 05:15

Meh, dodging a shoe makes an old man a hero now? I could think of more heroic deeds than that. :inquisitive:

JAG

12-15-2008, 05:59

Bad shot.

Good game secret service...

Reverend Joe

12-15-2008, 06:25

Banquo's Ghost

12-15-2008, 08:41

I am saddened by the degradation of the Iranian education system that we have allowed.

This fellow was clearly unable to fathom that in English, when trying to usher an unwanted critter from the back yard, simply saying "Shoo, shoo" is enough, and does not require bared feet.

Fragony

12-15-2008, 08:49

At least we can now all agree that the iraqi's have biological weapons.

Sasaki Kojiro

12-15-2008, 08:54

I don't get how his reaction time was that good. He saw the guy being pissed off, taking off his shoe and taking aim for at least a second. Thats plenty of time for basic instinct to kick in. I mean, just look at the second shot; he hardly ducks, he just kinda waves impotently at the incoming shoe.

I disagree, he had to read the trajectory of the shoe in the air before moving out of the way. Kept a smile on his face too. Better than you'd expect from a president. On the second throw he was clearly going to block it if it showed any threat of hitting him, that just shows his composure under fire.

The reporter, on the other hand, had fairly good aim, especially considering the time he had to throw, take off his second shoe and throw again.

Sorry to support the terrorists, but this dude was pretty damn good.

Nonsense, you have to assume that your target is going to duck and aim closer to the center of mass. He threw too high. What he really should have done was thrown one in an arc and one in a straight line so that they both arrived at the same time.

Abokasee

12-15-2008, 10:00

The Iraqi journalist was clearly wearing daps, just a look them fly in the air and how quickly he takes and throws them, If I was tossing my shoes it would take far longer, unless he had them both off before he was going to throw them, which I think he did, if you look at him between the first and second shot, he bends down to pick one up.

Rhyfelwyr

12-15-2008, 11:39

The guy next to Bush clearly risks his hand to deflect the second shoe, what a hero. :yes:

Fragony

12-15-2008, 13:36

Warning, extremely childish and thus funny.

http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2008/12/bush_schoen_gifs.html#comments

JR-

12-15-2008, 14:04

* ponders to oneself - who would have had the balls to throw a loafer at Saddam back in the day? *

Hooahguy

12-15-2008, 14:51

nominated as funniest video of 2008

Fragony

12-15-2008, 18:59

Scrap funny this is going for hysterical. Apparently thousands of iraqi's are celebrating this heroic last stand, maybe I just want it to be true because it would be reduce my carbon-footprint but omg get the roflcopter I feel dizzy

Devastatin Dave

12-15-2008, 19:03

The irony about this incident is that while this is causing mass masterbatorial reactions by the usual suspects, this journalist would have NEVER dared do a similar action to the person that would have been speaking at that podium 6 years ago. So while the BDS (Bush derangement syndrome) folks enjoy this moment, remember this: Bush made it possible for this man to display his displeasure without fear of immediate execustion of himself, his family, and possibly destruction of his entire community.

When Bush leaves office, he should join a professional dodgeball team.

HoreTore

12-15-2008, 19:09

The irony about this incident is that while this is causing mass masterbatorial reactions by the usual suspects, this journalist would have NEVER dared do a similar action to the person that would have been speaking at that podium 6 years ago. So while the BDS (Bush derangement syndrome) folks enjoy this moment, remember this: Bush made it possible for this man to display his displeasure without fear of immediate execustion of himself, his family, and possibly destruction of his entire community.

He's still facing a possible two years jail time. So whatever....

Fragony

12-15-2008, 19:15

He's still facing a possible two years jail time. So whatever....

Not to mention that just throwing a glove in europe would have had him killed in the old days

Goofball

12-15-2008, 19:17

I'm not gonna lie, I was grudgingly impressed not only with how easily Bush dodged the incoming shoe, but also that he did so with a certain amount of panache...

Vladimir

12-15-2008, 19:36

Once people are finished with the Obamagasm they're really going to miss 'ol 43. :laugh4:

CrossLOPER

12-15-2008, 20:26

Warning, extremely childish and thus funny.

http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven/2008/12/bush_schoen_gifs.html#comments
I liked the one with the Pokeball.

Evil_Maniac From Mars

12-15-2008, 20:26

I'm not gonna lie, I was grudgingly impressed not only with how easily Bush dodged the incoming shoe, but also that he did so with a certain amount of panache...

Agreed.

He's still facing a possible two years jail time. So whatever....

Better than a long drop and a short stop.

Hosakawa Tito

12-15-2008, 21:00

I'm not gonna lie, I was grudgingly impressed not only with how easily Bush dodged the incoming shoe, but also that he did so with a certain amount of panache...

Yeah, not bad for a guy that can't chew pretzels and breath at the same time. However, I am disappointed that a secret service agent didn't dive in front of George and take that barrage of shoes for POTUS. Miliki should have caught George in the face with a cream pie as he ducked just for laughs!

Devastatin Dave

12-15-2008, 21:19

Was the guy yelling "Armani Akbar!!!" when he threw the shoe?:laugh4:

Papewaio

12-15-2008, 21:46

Like all politicians he is good at ducking spin from journalists. He did do it in style.

Pretzels 1 : Journo's 0

I wonder if any SS will get in trouble for their lack of reaction speed.

drone

12-15-2008, 22:16

Some American journalist should have done that years ago. The only thing they threw at W when it would have really mattered were softballs.

spmetla

12-15-2008, 22:21

Isn't throwing shoes at someone a grave sign of disrespect in any culture?

Furunculus

12-15-2008, 22:42

nah, just considered rude in most of them.

Odin

12-15-2008, 23:45

The sad part is that special services failed miserably on this detail. Note that there was no one visably standing behind the President (yes hate or not, he's the President) to look over the crowd. Even if security had confirmed that there was no threat via a weapons search its still a breech of protocol unless the president requests that security stand down.

Now that may have happened, but the fact the guy got the 2nd shoe thrown is an indication that security services are either now completely inept, or politically correct each of which is a failure of duty. Protocol dictates that any object coming toward the president of a threatening nature should be blocked by the detail and or the president brought to the ground immediately. That didnt happen, once the person was Identified they are either taken down or a red dot appears on the head somewhere.....

Once he motioned for the second throw a loud "pop" should have been heard and his head splatter over the people behind him. Funniest part for me is the arabs have taken to the streets to protest the guy being detained lol, wonderful burn your own streets down genius's.

Sure it was an ultimate insut to Bush he had it coming, dosent negate the fact, in my view that the failure of the security detail is appaling and at the very least the conversation should be more people pissing and moaning about the "killer" bush as they burn american flags at that guys funeral (if they could find his head that is). hypothetically of course, hope they do a better job for the incoming clown, hes going to get more the shoes thrown at him....

Never should have gotten the second shoe in the air, wouldnt happened on my security detail. :thumbsup:

Tribesman

12-16-2008, 03:20

Funniest part for me is the arabs have taken to the streets to protest the guy being detained lol, wonderful burn your own streets down genius's.

Have you got any details of that Odin as the only thing I have seen the protesters burning is your flag .

Beren Son Of Barahi

12-16-2008, 03:31

Nonsense, you have to assume that your target is going to duck and aim closer to the center of mass. He threw too high. What he really should have done was thrown one in an arc and one in a straight line so that they both arrived at the same time.

This is classic food fighting technique; it shows that somethings can't be taught at Yale (or where ever jnr went to be "educated")..

i lol'd

Fragony

12-16-2008, 03:35

Isn't throwing shoes at someone a grave sign of disrespect in any culture?

Muha! I'd say.

Odin

12-16-2008, 05:46

Have you got any details of that Odin as the only thing I have seen the protesters burning is your flag .

Its a hope, not a fact. One of the stories i read eluded to it in Sadr city but it merely piqued my hope that it would be one of the outcomes. See burning the flag dosent do much anymore, thats an old trick thats been done. Hopefully they become so inflamed with Bush and there defeat at his hands that they revolt....

Really, attack the puppet governments in Iraq and afghanistan and usher in a new Shiite regime that will lead Islam to its enevitable creshendo (sp?) the sunni shia schism. This way the muslim we elected as president can fulfill his campaign promise have us out of there ASAP and they can begin killing themselves.

Its also not to late to start lining up oil tankers in basra and drain the oil fields there, you see im from the old school of war. Kill your enemy and take thier bounty, Im glad Bush got "dissed" lol, he earned it he went to war for idelogical purposes which always fall flat. Much better to go with a clear objective of land, resources or blood.

By the way did I mention its great popping in here from time to time? Seeing you around as well as the other euro jackals is great, dam near 4 years now... Its great watching a dog chase its tail from time to time particularly dogs that believe there smarter then everyone else lol.

Tomorrow when you wake up step outside and point to the sky and yell "hey its blue" as loud as you can, you'll be proclaimed an expert from Dublin to Sofia... lol :toilet:

Lemur

12-16-2008, 06:07

The sad part is that special services failed miserably on this detail.
Not surprisingly, the SS claims it did okay (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/15/AR2008121502723.html?hpid=topnews).

The episode underscored the limits of the large security apparatus that surrounds U.S. presidents, a detail that must balance safety concerns against the need to be accessible, according to security experts.

"They are already so protected as it is that it's hard to imagine how they could guard against something like this," said John E. Pike, director of GlobalSecurity.org, a think tank on defense and security issues. "It just comes with the territory."

Zahren said that those at the news conference at the prime minister's palace were screened with magnetometers and were given additional pat-downs to ensure that no weapons were brought into the room. U.S. officials also conducted background and identity checks on all participants ahead of time as usual, he said.

"This was a room full of cleared and screened press, and that could be the case anywhere," Zahren said. "We wouldn't expect this type of behavior out of our press corps, but within the security structure, people can still misbehave."

William H. Pickle, a former Secret Service agent and former sergeant at arms in the Senate, said, "Other than the shoes, the most deadly weapon in that room was probably going to be a chair or a pen." He said there are limits to what security officers can do in such situations.

"Unless you isolate the president from human contact, I'm not sure you can entirely prevent someone from doing something like that," Pickle said.

Tribesman

12-16-2008, 10:03

Its great watching a dog chase its tail from time to time particularly dogs that believe there smarter then everyone else lol.

It doesn't take someone very smart to be smarter than someone who writes

wonderful burn your own streets down genius's.
or

there defeat at his hands
or even

This way the muslim we elected as president
.....So Odin , is it drugs that screwed up your mind or is it just the way you were born ?

CountArach

12-16-2008, 10:11

Australian Protesters throw shoes at Prime Minister look-alike (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/12/16/2447688.htm)

I feel a meme coming on...

LittleGrizzly

12-16-2008, 14:57

Its great watching a dog chase its tail from time to time particularly dogs that believe there smarter then everyone else lol.

Have you been getting the monitor and the mirror confused again.... even a euro brainiac like me can get the two confused

Its also not to late to start lining up oil tankers in basra and drain the oil fields there, you see im from the old school of war. Kill your enemy and take thier bounty, Im glad Bush got "dissed" lol, he earned it he went to war for idelogical purposes which always fall flat. Much better to go with a clear objective of land, resources or blood.

So you enjoy terrorist attacks and wish to encourage more ?

Or do you not understand the causes of terrorism and are just after some wild revenge ?

Fragony

12-16-2008, 15:06

Or do you not understand the causes of terrorism

Which are?

LittleGrizzly

12-16-2008, 15:20

Which are?

well theres loads, the one i was specifically referring to would be;

Public Relations, one of the most important ones, announicng you are going into Iraq just to take the oil would be bad pr for example, or good pr for AQ, which all in all would encourage more would be suicide bombers

theres loads of others though.... poverty, ignorance, negative western interference (recent and long gone) dictatorships, some long standing grievance.... and a whole bunch of others i probably can't think of right now...

Fragony

12-16-2008, 15:27

theres loads of others though.... poverty, ignorance, negative western interference (recent and long gone) dictatorships, some long standing grievance.... and a whole bunch of others i probably can't think of right now...

So just about everything on this clay grown tall, that's good because that means we can just neglect just about everything on this clay grown tall and just shoot them wherever we find them (borrowed but if it's old it is at least wise unless it's really stupid)

Ser Clegane

12-16-2008, 15:28

A gentle reminder:

This thread started on the "light" side - but some of the last psots have been unnecessarily caustic and borderline flame baiting.
Please keep it civil (people can disagree and argue about it without insulting each other)

Thanks

:bow:

Devastatin Dave

12-16-2008, 15:42

Vladimir

12-16-2008, 15:58

http://flash.vg.no/grafikk/2008/bush/kast_sko.html

Go Norway! :norway:

LittleGrizzly

12-16-2008, 16:23

So just about everything on this clay grown tall, that's good because that means we can just neglect just about everything on this clay grown tall and just shoot them wherever we find them (borrowed but if it's old it is at least wise unless it's really stupid)

I think its some kind of counter point your making but it has gone completely over my head, what is this clay grown tall ?

can you make your point again but in simple english...

Vladimir

12-16-2008, 16:57

http://www.kurdmedia.com/article.aspx?id=15287

On December 14, 2008 President Bush and Prime Minister Maliki had a press conference in Baghdad. An Iraqi journalist threw his shoes one at a time at the American president. Interestingly Mr. Bush moved very quickly and dodged the shoes so none of them hit him. Apparently he is physically very fit and might have an extensive experience in dodge ball. Most likely dodge shoes becomes the favorite game of children who watch Al-Jazirah. I am wondering if the angry man had thrown the shoes at his own current leaders who welcomed Mr. Bush, would Prime Minister Maliki or President Talibani have been fit enough to protect themselves from being hit; probably not.

:2thumbsup:

Husar

12-16-2008, 17:40

Its great watching a dog chase its tail from time to time particularly dogs that believe there smarter then everyone else lol.

You like looking into mirrors, don't you? ~;)
Oh, I'm soo much smarter than you...

Needless to say I disagree with your blood and booty preaching, you can flush it down the toilet with yourself(that's what the smiley means, isn't it?), I prefer peace.

Fragony

12-16-2008, 17:54

what is this clay grown tall ?

can you make your point again but in simple english...

No less then the greatest example of english poetry what are you english kids up to while we study??

Futility

Move him into the sun - <
Gently its touch awoke him once, <
At home, whispering of fields unsown. <
Always it woke him, even in France, <
Until this morning and this snow. <
If anything might rouse him now <
The kind old sun will know. < life

Think how it wakes the seeds, - <
Woke, once, the clays of a cold star. <
Are limbs, so dear-achieved, are sides, <
Full-nerved,- still warm,- too hard to stir? < one valid question
Was it for this the clay grew tall? < guess it is, clay=planet
- O what made fatuous sunbeams toil
To break earth's sleep at all? < hence futility

Written by a soldier during the battle of the Somme in France, I cannot think of a more powerful outcry.

Kekvit Irae

12-16-2008, 18:02

http://www.robotparty.us/WoWBush.gif

Hosakawa Tito

12-16-2008, 18:27

In all the media hub-bub I wonder if anyone reflects upon the fact that an Iraqi journalist had the ability/chutzpah/freedom from instant annihilation of family/friends/associates that would have resulted if he had tried that a mere 6 years ago...

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88

12-16-2008, 18:38

I would have toss the shoe back! Why Not? Tell him to take it with him with his new terroist buddies in Jail.

HoreTore

12-16-2008, 22:35

Hosakawa Tito

12-16-2008, 23:23

I wonder if anyone reflects upon the fact that his family/friends/associates died in the war ~;)

Yes, and at whose hands?

LittleGrizzly

12-17-2008, 00:24

Futility

ohh right, well we can help solve those other problems as well to varying degrees, the pr is a big part imo. Never much liked poetry, did some ww1 poems don't remember that one though....

HoreTore

12-17-2008, 00:45

Yes, and at whose hands?

The shoe-throwing angry journalists....?

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88

12-17-2008, 01:04

I wonder if anyone reflects upon the fact that his family/friends/associates died in the war ~;)

Well, we came to help. If he didn't want it, we could have stayed back and let him get killed also :yes::yes:.

CrossLOPER

12-17-2008, 03:31

Well, we came to help. If he didn't want it, we could have stayed back and let him get killed also :yes::yes:.
Pardon me good sir, but it appears your statement is not a fully formed thought and therefore perplexes me. Please elaborate, if you will, so that I can better understand your position on this most important issue.

banananut

Banquo's Ghost

12-17-2008, 09:12

I must say, this thread is redolent of the high-pitched lamenting song of the Lesser Imperialist in full flight.

"All we did for them. Brought civilisation, not many dead really. Ungrateful oiks."

(For interested observers, the song modulates up and down, rising to a thin whining at the end).

It's sadly amusing when Americans find themselves channelling George III in defence of George W.

CountArach

12-17-2008, 14:05

Gregoshi

12-17-2008, 14:54

It's sadly amusing when Americans find themselves channelling George III in defence of George W.
If the shoe fits...(throw it).:laugh4:

Fragony

12-17-2008, 15:06

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/335441/7b7c0a90/bush_schoen_wetenschappelijk_bekeken.html

HoreTore

12-17-2008, 17:11

Pardon me good sir, but it appears your statement is not a fully formed thought and therefore perplexes me. Please elaborate, if you will, so that I can better understand your position on this most important issue.

There's a slight difference between "helping the people overthrow a despot" and "invade country and bomb it to pieces"...

It's not like good ol' Saddam was impossible to overthrow. Do remind me, what happen that time they tried to overthrow him?

Tribesman

12-18-2008, 00:04

Do remind me, what happen that time they tried to overthrow him?

Was that the time they told the Shias in the south to rise up but then realised that if the shias overthrew Saddam then the likely outcome would be that the shia groups would be in power and that meant that as they were backed by Iran the result would be the supreme council for islamic revoluion taking over thus extending Irans influence in the middle east ?
See the western invasion gave a far better result than supporting the uprising would have , since now the Iranian backed supreme council for islamic revolution are the new government and they have extended Irans influence in the middle east .
Errrrr.....:oops:

KarlXII

12-18-2008, 00:34

http://www.robotparty.us/WoWBush.gif

Bush just plays Alliance.

I would have toss the shoe back! Why Not? Tell him to take it with him with his new terroist buddies in Jail.

Lol. Shoe throwing=Terrorism. I'm terrified.

Oh, and the SS thing, it's not that the fact he threw the shoe, no one saw that coming, it is that the journalist was given enough time to bend down, pick up, and throw the other shoe with no SS in sight.

Or did they get cold feet?