OOC Thread and Chatroom

[everyone]

well there are a few problems; they're more expensive than normal troops, and we don't have the required MICs to recruit them in many cities (I think only Roma can recruit them, and we can't even have access to the whole range of Italic troops).

I think the only possibility of that is for a "Italic provincial legion", where some very influential provincial dictator persuades the CoL to recruit him a provincial army composed of Italic allies, then it could be role-played like the Italics are not satisfied with the senate or something, so they help that provincial dictator seize power.

[SwissBarbar]

i continued the discussion in the curia, feel free to join

[Mooks]

well there are a few problems; they're more expensive than normal troops, and we don't have the required MICs to recruit them in many cities (I think only Roma can recruit them, and we can't even have access to the whole range of Italic troops).

I think the only possibility of that is for a "Italic provincial legion", where some very influential provincial dictator persuades the CoL to recruit him a provincial army composed of Italic allies, then it could be role-played like the Italics are not satisfied with the senate or something, so they help that provincial dictator seize power.

Ha, a provincial dictator seizing power by using Italic Allies, now that would be sweet. Would be a recreation of the Social Wars.

[Mooks]

well there are a few problems; they're more expensive than normal troops, and we don't have the required MICs to recruit them in many cities (I think only Roma can recruit them, and we can't even have access to the whole range of Italic troops).

I think the only possibility of that is for a "Italic provincial legion", where some very influential provincial dictator persuades the CoL to recruit him a provincial army composed of Italic allies, then it could be role-played like the Italics are not satisfied with the senate or something, so they help that provincial dictator seize power.

I always remembered Rome having access to the Samnites, thats really all I was proposing in the senate.

[SwissBarbar]

Weren't the samnites the ones, that espeacially often rebelled and took every chance to fight rome aside roman enemies? After the romans finally exterminated them, they surely had access to them, but I think the would revolt again and again if they had the chance

[Mooks]

Weren't the samnites the ones, that espeacially often rebelled and took every chance to fight rome aside roman enemies? After the romans finally exterminated them, they surely had access to them, but I think the would revolt again and again if they had the chance

Yes, they were a rebellious bunch. Sulla had many of them killed after they surrendered their arms and equipment (All the while when the senate was in session btw). Read my post in the curia, it deals with the issue.

[navarro951]

well i just finished the save....so now i need to hold it to see what were gonna do with legio I.

[Mjolnir]

EDIT - nevermind.

[Potocello]

okay so i think things would be better if i officially proposed an edict but since a Congressional Council isn't going on, how could i do this? Would we hold an emergency council where i would then be able to do this?

[The Celtic Viking]

No, I don't think an emergency session should or will be held for this since this isn't an emergency. You'll have to wait until the next session starts.

[Potocello]

okay, thanks for the info =)

[Mjolnir]

Moved Qvintvs towards Legio I.

TCV - note:


@navarro - Unfortunately I must withdraw from playing Quintus. Sry if this comes in a wrong time! :shame:

[The Celtic Viking]

Blagh! Thanks Mjolnir, I didn't know that. Ah well, need to find me a new tribune then.

[Potocello]

woops Swissbarber, meant to call you Mamercvs not Memercvs:clown:

[/Bean\]

Has he had to leave the game?

@TCV-Sorry, my bad. I completely forgot to move you...my fault. I'll let you move yourself to Massilia then?

[SwissBarbar]

dear Potocello, my name here is SwissBarbar :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

[Potocello]

AH no not again:embarassed: barbar as in barbarian right?

Sorry Swiss :laugh4:

[/Bean\]

Couldnt you just change your name to Swiss Barbarian? :laugh4:

[Potocello]

Couldnt you just change your name to Swiss Barbarian? :laugh4:

haha that might be more helpful :2thumbsup:

[SwissBarbar]

right ^^ don't mind, everyone does spell it wrong *G*

can one change his nickname? i thought about it *G*

[SwissBarbar]

Your rhetoric is shameful, and far below that which should be the standard in these halls. Juno's cunt! Have you no honour? Show some respect!"

:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: simply funny

[Potocello]

haha yah i had a chuckle about the Juno's cunt comment

[The Celtic Viking]

What can I say? It's a part of my character's traits to disrespect the gods, and I thought that was a good time to let that enter my play here. I'm glad you agree. :grin:

[/Bean\]

You can change your name in the USER CP as long as its not already taken. I can't change my name back to Bean because it's been taken since I changed it first, so I'l stay as Baen :laugh4:

[navarro951]

haha Baen..Bean i see now! Ill be changing mine soon as I think of a better one.

[/Bean\]

Yeah, my nicknames Bean, but I had a phase where I thought swapping the vowels would look cool...I'm past that now...but I cant change back which is a shame:thumbsdown:

[Potocello]

hey Bean where is Legatus Cotta in this whole debate? =)

[/Bean\]

Many miles to the North. I like to use the fact that influence in the Senate can drop while away on campaign. Roleplay should be used in as many aspects of the game as possible. It just doesnt seem right that Cotta would be fighting in the North and sfind time to have converstaions in the Curia. I'll only really partake with a few letters, or if theres a very important decision to be made where an aide can inform me.

Oh and Tiberius, about the comments like 'in leage with Cotta', stuff like that, I don't take it personallt, but realistly you can't go around using sentences like that, describing me openly as if i'm a criminal. By all means let your character think that, but you would be chucked out for actually saying that in the Curia. Just a tip. :yes:

[Mooks]

Hopefully awaiting until we release a official proposal. Dictating exactly what we want to accomplish.

On that note, please read your msgs potocello!

On a completely different note altogether, why does navarro think Sicily will be easier then Greece? Syracuse is a tough city itself. And theres the mammertimes, which has a full garrison and the carthaginians themselves, which may land a stack (never know, they could).

[Mooks]

Many miles to the North. I like to use the fact that influence in the Senate can drop while away on campaign. Roleplay should be used in as many aspects of the game as possible. It just doesnt seem right that Cotta would be fighting in the North and sfind time to have converstaions in the Curia. I'll only really partake with a few letters, or if theres a very important decision to be made where an aide can inform me.

Oh and Tiberius, about the comments like 'in leage with Cotta', stuff like that, I don't take it personallt, but realistly you can't go around using sentences like that, describing me openly as if i'm a criminal. By all means let your character think that, but you would be chucked out for actually saying that in the Curia. Just a tip. :yes:

I was thinking you were doing that. I like it. Makes you need to have representatives in Rome to back you up.

[navarro951]

Hopefully awaiting until we release a official proposal. Dictating exactly what we want to accomplish.

On that note, please read your msgs potocello!

On a completely different note altogether, why does navarro think Sicily will be easier then Greece? Syracuse is a tough city itself. And theres the mammertimes, which has a full garrison and the carthaginians themselves, which may land a stack (never know, they could).

Im not pushing the invasion of Carthage im just making a point that you pro-greece peeps are hypocrites...IC speaking of course.

[Mooks]

Im not pushing the invasion of Carthage im just making a point that you pro-greece peeps are hypocrites...IC speaking of course.

Meh, all politicians are hypocrites.

[navarro951]

I suppose that cant be argued yes...

[/Bean\]

All the good ones anyway :2thumbsup:

[SwissBarbar]

I like the disputes in the Curia, keep it up :2thumbsup:

[Mooks]

Im getting the exact proposal finished. Potocello isnt asnwering his msgs but I dont want to post it without running it through him.

[navarro951]

I've also borrowed the diplomat from Arrimium to keep my fort, hope no one minds.

its okay, my job to move'm but i dont need that one right now. No luck with our spy on the gate huh?

[SwissBarbar]

I'm going to bed now anyway ^^ Gn8

[/Bean\]

85% chance but no, no luck. Oh well, wouldnt be able to play it until tomorrow night anyway. I'm gonna head off to bed in a mo as well

[navarro951]

okay wow and 85% and a no go??? well goodnight then haha

[Potocello]

phew. i think its about time we vote on this damn Greece issue. I want to test my command of the Legio III =)

[navarro951]

ya well a council has to be called...this aint exactly an emergency.

[Potocello]

then i can't wait until the next coucil is called ;)

[navarro951]

ya it will be a heated one.

[SwissBarbar]

You bet this will be a huge debate, hehe.


Edit: Uuuh guys, i already know who could have a Civil war against who later on ^^

[/Bean\]

Surely this isnt a civil war issue? If they had civil wars everytime they fell out over something or argued in the Curia there would be mayhem...earlier then when this happened...:inquisitive:

[SwissBarbar]

*G* I said "later on", theres much more argument between it.

[everyone]

damn it! another 12 hours at school and the debate rages on! and Cicero told me he can't make up his mind on what to decide on supporting; though I told him that he recently acquired the "agitator" trait.

[The Celtic Viking]

@TCV-Sorry, my bad. I completely forgot to move you...my fault. I'll let you move yourself to Massilia then?

Ah, didn't notice this until now. There's no harm done, at least not from my part. Actually, as it turns out it was better for my character as he will now get some battlepoints for himself. So it was actually a good thing for me. :grin:

(And yes, I'll move myself from now on. The reason I gave you the movement control was because you were in charge of the operation, but I'm no longer a part of it.)

[Mooks]

damn it! another 12 hours at school and the debate rages on! and Cicero told me he can't make up his mind on what to decide on supporting; though I told him that he recently acquired the "agitator" trait.

12 hours in school? Do you live in china or something?

Also, I dont expect a heated debate. Surely everyone will see the wisdom of my proposed edict?

;)

[everyone]

no, Singapore :egypt:

edict? what edict?
EDIT: oh that, I don't think that could be put forward as an edict, it isn't a congressional/emergency session

[The Celtic Viking]

Not only that, but tribunes can't propose edicts even when it is. ~:doh:

[/Bean\]

Can we end the turn now? I wanna get this battle done :smash:

[The Celtic Viking]

Not really. It's guaranteed 24 hours, so it's still some 2 hours left before it's allowed to be reclaimed. Not that it matters to me right now; I'm just mindlessly chanting the rules. :sweatdrop:

[/Bean\]

Maybe...we should have a game where we randomly spurt out a rule...for no reason...could be fun :2thumbsup:

[The Celtic Viking]

Like... everyone (and especially everyone!) has to worship The Celtic Viking, or suffer a long and cruel death? :idea:

[/Bean\]

I don't remember that rule...but what the heck...:help:

[Potocello]

man oh man after reading Swissbarbar's latest post in the curia i am convinced Avlvs is out to get Servivs! I don't think the two can every be friends in the curia :laugh4::laugh4:

I find it funny how this proposed invasion is causing so much anger throughout the senate, its kinda like attacking Carthage. i think this debate has man some clear divisions in the senate, i think its safe to say Servivs and Avlvs are enemies.

[/Bean\]

I'm quite glad I've stayed out of it, to be honest. Pretty heated.

Can we end the turn now? :beam:

[The Celtic Viking]

Now we can. (To be on the minute. ~;)

Edit: or not. Blasted forum clock is apparently one minute after my computer clock. Bah. But now it should be okay. :laugh4:

[Potocello]

I'm quite glad I've stayed out of it, to be honest. Pretty heated.

Can we end the turn now? :beam:

yah Bean i noticed that :beam: I was a little bummed about it though, i would have liked to see what you had to say.

please end the turn, this has dragged on for too long

[SwissBarbar]

man oh man after reading Swissbarbar's latest post in the curia i am convinced Avlvs is out to get Servivs! I don't think the two can every be friends in the curia :laugh4::laugh4:

I find it funny how this proposed invasion is causing so much anger throughout the senate, its kinda like attacking Carthage. i think this debate has man some clear divisions in the senate, i think its safe to say Servivs and Avlvs are enemies.

Hehe, it was our intention to create "houses" ^^ We 2 are pioneers, Poto *G*

[Potocello]

that we are Swiss :beam::beam: now we have to get the ranks to be able to do something about it

hmm civil war perhaps :clown:

[SwissBarbar]

unfortunately its too early in the game for that *G* but not every dispute has to turn out in a civil war. Actually Avlvs is not even in the curia anymore to argue, so just lets hate each other for now :laugh4: :laugh4:

[Potocello]

:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: I just read your post and you are indeed, not in the Curia. So basically my most recent post there was my character yelling at the air where you should have been. oops :sweatdrop:

[SwissBarbar]

no no, you yelled so loud, that he still could hear it :sweatdrop:

[/Bean\]

Did you not see, I said earlier: I don't take part in the Curia when I'm on campaign, seeing as I wouldnt be there. Its realistic that the senators would lose influence if not in the city, which is why victory is important to keep influence, and to work twice as hard behind the scenes and when you are in the city.

[Potocello]

oh right Bean, forgot you were off doing your duty.

@Swiss hahaha. i must say i am really looking forward to seeing where Servivs and Avlvs' relationship goes.

on another note. I just ordered my new macbook! i'm really excited, not gunna lie.

[/Bean\]

omg Spurs...do something...

[Il_Duce]

Did you not see, I said earlier: I don't take part in the Curia when I'm on campaign, seeing as I wouldnt be there. Its realistic that the senators would lose influence if not in the city, which is why victory is important to keep influence, and to work twice as hard behind the scenes and when you are in the city.

I think right now RP speaking Legatus Nero (your second in command) is in Rome speaking on your behalf while you get things settled up north before I rejoin the Legion before we march to battle.

So has anyone given any thought to starting up a house? I think it would simply be a good way for a few senators to share ideals and plans for future senate debates and votes, among other things. We could role play an adobe as the common house for those who have been accepted and then use a system of PMs for more private and personal dealings.

[/Bean\]

Houses can only start once their are Praetors, and yes, there are plans.

EDIT: COME ON YOU SPUUUURRRSSS!! COME ON YOU SPUUURRRSS!! Bloody close run thing

[Potocello]

Servivs' support is no where to be found:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

where are Mooks and Tiberius anyway?

[navarro951]

hey guys ill be ending the turn soon im at work ill be home in an hour...:sweatdrop:

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

Oh and Tiberius, about the comments like 'in leage with Cotta', stuff like that, I don't take it personallt, but realistly you can't go around using sentences like that, describing me openly as if i'm a criminal. By all means let your character think that, but you would be chucked out for actually saying that in the Curia. Just a tip. :yes:

Why would I be chucked out? I am an agitator and insolent and I want to turn people against you by making them think that you would make yourself a new king. The phrase "in league with" doesn't necessarily identify you with 'criminal' per se. It certainly loans a negative connotation to you, which is what I intend; but certainly 'criminal' doesn't come foremost to my mind at least.

Thoughts anyone?

[navarro951]

omg i fu**ing hate my boss...those are my thots.

and Baen fight that battle good luck!

[navarro951]

wow Cicero's wife is 12 haha

[Il_Duce]

Why would I be chucked out? I am an agitator and insolent and I want to turn people against you by making them think that you would make yourself a new king. The phrase "in league with" doesn't necessarily identify you with 'criminal' per se. It certainly loans a negative connotation to you, which is what I intend; but certainly 'criminal' doesn't come foremost to my mind at least.

Thoughts anyone?

I think he meant I would probably pick you up by your straps and throw you out of the Curia myself :laugh4:

Don't mess with Cotta, lol

[navarro951]

Houses can only start once their are Praetors, and yes, there are plans.

EDIT: COME ON YOU SPUUUURRRSSS!! COME ON YOU SPUUURRRSS!! Bloody close run thing

Just to clear that up Praetors dont start house, the sponsor them. Quaestors start houses.

If you want a run down its in the rules, ill show you another example using you guys.

Cotta becomes a Praetor...YAY!

Longvs becomes a Quaestor...YAY!

Longvs stands for blah blah blah so he befriends Cotta (yes this requires kissing some ass as houses should be worthy) and asks him to sponsor his house or family that is.

Cotta will OK it and announce said house/family in the Curia.

Longvs then does a long drawn speech as to what he will stand for and asks the dictator for the finalized okay. He will stand for cake baking and a Rome where each house deserves a cake.

Dictator okays.

Gamemaster, me, then will create a new thread for Longvs' house/family.

Longvs Cake Baking Family thread will then post in that thread what the family stands for, rules of how to enter the family, ranks within the family which he will delegate. And then get creative beyond that I dont care.

I will also be implementing a new legion type next council that will become House/Family legions that literally belong to said house/family so they can conduct their civil wars out of their own pocket so to speak. This way we do not waste away the senates legions. Provincial legions may also be used in a civil war if they belong to the family/houses in the war.

The Order of St.John (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=107888) is a great example in LoTR.

Also, how each house/family earns money to fund their personal legions will be delegated by a little idea ive been cooking up which ill unveil later as it will take good planning.

[navarro951]

update: orders for all Legio's are in my SOT!

[/Bean\]

I'll have to wait till I get home tonight to play it, seeing as you posted the new save at 02.19 this morning :beam:.

Oh yeah, and people need to update their SOT's, especially the tribunes and former tribunes who are no longer serving or have begun to serve with the legions.

@Navarro, You still need a Praetor to start a house though right? Or can a Quaestor start one without sponsership?

[Mjolnir]

I look forward to taking the first step towards Legatus. Cotta, please don't let any of us die. :sweatdrop:

[everyone]

yes, I'm particularly afraid of losing another character, fortunately we'll be auto-winning the battle that Legio I takes part in to simulate the city surrendering.
ah. I see the debate seems to have died down.

[SwissBarbar]

*GGG* Don't worry, I'd save you in battle :laugh4:

[everyone]

lol! I also just realised Cicero's wife is 12 years? :smash:
anyway, I'll take the save after baen fights the battle to retrain the units he wastedlost

edit: never mind, I'll take it now, I might not have time later

[SwissBarbar]

ouuuuuuu, thank you !!! maybe I can use that in our debates :laugh4: :laugh4:

[Mooks]

Iv been a bit busy lately. Meaning my Pontus campaign has got me hooked. Its the perfect campaign, I managed to get the Galacia city population up to 10,000 and my capital up to 3,000. The Seleucid, Egyptians, and Makedonians attacked me in turn. Im not rushing, capturing a city every 15 turns or so. Now the old generation is dying and the new generation are all Thracians or Kappadonians, and theres a lot of them. Im also trying to roleplay and use a few house rules.

Also in the debate I realised that the senate has in fact, no balls. Im willing to make it so 2 legions go to Greece instead of one.

Iv thought about making a house, but im not doing it unless im the co-leader or leader.

[/Bean\]

I'll take the save after baen fights the battle to retrain the units he wasted lost

:laugh4: Glad that wasnt in the Curia, Everyone.:beam:

[everyone]

good, now that you are online, perhaps you could take the save and waste - I mean use legio II to capture patavium now.

edit: I also intend to post something in the Curia but I am delayed because I can't think of what great oration to compose and finish my homework which has instructions which are impossible to comprehend at the same time

[Mooks]

How many units you think he will lose? 300?

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

The legions will do fine taking the cities up north, hell,there's enough pila to be thrown at the unarmored barbaroi. I would like to submit that if we "auto-win", it be voted on in the senate. I hate auto-winning; myself; but see it as completely useful for RP. My main issue with it is 'will it become just a standard tool in our arsenal?" I hope the commander who "wins" that way gets no battle points as they really didn't fight a battle, did they?

[everyone]

the taking of massilia auto-win thing was decided by the edict, and Cicero is starting to think the debate in the curia is starting to become really retarded. so I'm making him furious and say something. (actually I meant to post this part after I RP some stuff between Cicero and Cotta, but baen/bean doesn't seem to be online. so I'll just skip that.

[SwissBarbar]

we need to change the rules, so we really have a republic, or the game here is not worthy of rome, if the dictator decides everything on his own. In that case we'd better change that faction :inquisitive: :inquisitive:

[everyone]

perhaps I'll propose a CA as soon as possible to change it to
"The senate, proposing an edict, shall decide where it is to move and whom to attack"

anyway I have to go to sleep now.

[SwissBarbar]

Yes, this would be great for several reasons, I write it down for you.

We must turn Rome into a Republic, because this is what it is. Its the senates job to discuss all important matters, not the dictators. Or we have a Roman Kingdom here.


Proposal


Dictator's will decide who commands it, where it is to move (if at all), and whom to attack.

CA X.1: The senate shall decide where it is to move an army and whom to attack, because[/B]

- Roma is a Republic, not a Kingdom, so the Senate and not the Dictator has to decide.

- Only when the Legions belong to Commanders (or Houses) we can RP civil wars, otherwise the dictator could just draw all legions back, which would end in a pretty one-sided civil war

- More funny debates about bits and pieces are granted.



Players may not move avatars or armies into the territory of a neutral or allied faction without the permission of the Dictator.
Nor may they attack the settlements or armies of neutral or allied factions without a declaration of war from the Dictator, either Consul’s, or an Edict.


CA X.2: Players may not move avatars or armies into the territory of a neutral or allied faction without the permission of the Senate.
Nor may they attack the settlements or armies of neutral or allied factions without a declaration of war from the Senate. [/B]



If a Standard or Imperial Legion falls below the minimum strength level, all military recruitment must be allocated to restoring the Legions to minimum strength before money can be spent on other recruitment, unless the Dictator agrees otherwise.

CA X.3: If a Standard or Imperial Legion falls below the minimum strength level, all military recruitment must be allocated to restoring the Legions to minimum strength before money can be spent on other recruitment, unless the Senate agrees otherwise.




These are the most important ones, but there are more. We should change most "Dictators rights" into "Senates rights". Due to the gameplay, maybe we leave the giving away of Provincial Dictatorships to the Dictator, with the addition, that the senate could veto and vote, if the player is not accepted.


We don't even need sessions for voting, because the senate should vote ALL THE TIME for every matter. That's his job

[/Bean\]

I'm finally home, so I'll play the battle now.

I was at school when I came online earlier.

[SwissBarbar]

Taking the save.

Baen, did you forget to write that you took the save?

[/Bean\]

No, TCV nicked it before I got there :laugh4:

[/Bean\]

Patavium is captured. Fun battle, that. My tribunes are very good fighters btw. Well done Aemilii!

[Mjolnir]

Sweet, did any of the cavalry command squads gain any experience? :2thumbsup:

[/Bean\]

I'm making the battle report now, I'll post the scrolls for you to see while I do the screenshots and write the full report and whatnot.

[Mjolnir]

Looking forward to reading about the battle I fought in. :laugh4:

[Mjolnir]

The legions will do fine taking the cities up north, hell,there's enough pila to be thrown at the unarmored barbaroi. I would like to submit that if we "auto-win", it be voted on in the senate. I hate auto-winning; myself; but see it as completely useful for RP. My main issue with it is 'will it become just a standard tool in our arsenal?" I hope the commander who "wins" that way gets no battle points as they really didn't fight a battle, did they?

I think they should get battle points for auto-winning because they are still taking the risk of their avatar dying. Perhaps subtract 1 from the battle points they would have gotten from actually fighting the battle.

[SwissBarbar]

Congratulations, Legatus ;-)

[/Bean\]

Cheers. Navarro, where do I stick my battle points?

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

I think they should get battle points for auto-winning because they are still taking the risk of their avatar dying. Perhaps subtract 1 from the battle points they would have gotten from actually fighting the battle.

There's no threat of losing your character. If the avatar dies, just reload the save and auto-resolve the battle again. It's not really cheating when you're cheating to begin with :juggle2:

I suppose you could RP something like in "Ben Hur" when the new governor of Jerusalem is thrown from his horse and killed when slate roof tiles fall to the ground and startle the horse; but who wants to die like that?

No battle points I say!

Edit: GJ Beaney!

[/Bean\]

We're only autowinning it because it's not meant to be a battle. It's meant to be a diplomatic mission, but because of the limits of the engine conquering the city is the only way of getting an alliance with a free city.

[Potocello]

hmmm what to do about Carthage? they are getting a little too close for comfort and their alliance with the Epeiros is disconscerting.

[/Bean\]

Bring it up in the Curia, I'd be happy to express my opinions.

EDIT: I'm going to have to compose future letters more carefully, haha

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

EDIT: I'm going to have to compose future letters more carefully, haha

Yes, yes you will. My goal is to destroy you!

Why? I don't know. I am probably jealous that you started the game before me and so therefore have a higher position in the legions and are one of the few characters to actually get to do anything.

Oh well, just hope we never get the ability to RP assassinations, because I'd take you out!:yes:

[Potocello]

hahah whoa now Tiberius, i didn't know you had such hostility towards Bean

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

hahah whoa now Tiberius, i didn't know you had such hostility towards Bean

It's all RP of course, I don't know the guy IRL and he seems to take it all in stride; but yeah, my character is a spoiled little prick who always wants his way and will make it hell for everyone until he gets it.

[Potocello]

:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: funny, Tiberius

[Il_Duce]

It's all RP of course, I don't know the guy IRL and he seems to take it all in stride; but yeah, my character is a spoiled little prick who always wants his way and will make it hell for everyone until he gets it.

I'm going to be honest-- it's all fun and RPing and stuff, but RPing against fat prick that gets on everybody's nerves is not what I joined up for.

[/Bean\]

Agggggghhhhhhhhhhhh (No, its not an assassin...) I just accidently got rid of everything I wrote in the last half hour in my Battle Report...

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

I'm going to be honest-- it's all fun and RPing and stuff, but RPing against fat prick that gets on everybody's nerves is not what I joined up for.

Wow, that was strangely.....out of place. What gives with the OOC hostility? Maybe you need to hone your RP skills then? :-P

[Mjolnir]

Come on Il_Duce, do you really want an RPG where we all get along? :P

[/Bean\]

I'll finish the battle report tomorrow, I'm so knackered. I'm home before lunch tomorrow so I'll have plenty of time. See ya later y'all

[Il_Duce]

Wow, that was strangely.....out of place. What gives with the OOC hostility? Maybe you need to hone your RP skills then? :-P

No, it's just the fact that sometimes you take it too far. It's just not fun when somebody is RPing such a ridiculous character.

Also, was I moved from Legio II? I don't remember anything about it in the dictator reports.

[Potocello]

it is in his character traits and that's how Tiberius chooses to rp him. In all honesty i think this would be boring without such ridiculous characters...

[navarro951]

we need to change the rules, so we really have a republic, or the game here is not worthy of rome, if the dictator decides everything on his own. In that case we'd better change that faction :inquisitive: :inquisitive:

i am aware, and yes changes will be made


Yes, this would be great for several reasons, I write it down for you.

We must turn Rome into a Republic, because this is what it is. Its the senates job to discuss all important matters, not the dictators. Or we have a Roman Kingdom here.


Proposal



CA X.1: The senate shall decide where it is to move an army and whom to attack, because[/B]

- Roma is a Republic, not a Kingdom, so the Senate and not the Dictator has to decide.

- Only when the Legions belong to Commanders (or Houses) we can RP civil wars, otherwise the dictator could just draw all legions back, which would end in a pretty one-sided civil war

- More funny debates about bits and pieces are granted.





CA X.2: Players may not move avatars or armies into the territory of a neutral or allied faction without the permission of the Senate.
Nor may they attack the settlements or armies of neutral or allied factions without a declaration of war from the Senate. [/B]




CA X.3: If a Standard or Imperial Legion falls below the minimum strength level, all military recruitment must be allocated to restoring the Legions to minimum strength before money can be spent on other recruitment, unless the Senate agrees otherwise.




These are the most important ones, but there are more. We should change most "Dictators rights" into "Senates rights". Due to the gameplay, maybe we leave the giving away of Provincial Dictatorships to the Dictator, with the addition, that the senate could veto and vote, if the player is not accepted.


We don't even need sessions for voting, because the senate should vote ALL THE TIME for every matter. That's his job

I agree with everything cept for the senate deciding on recruitment and retraining, CoL does that and nothing will ever get done if everyone is bickering over what to recruit or to retrain for. I trust that whoever is CoL will get the job done to par. And the civil war legions thing will be handled as well. Youll like what ive got in store im sure.

But the idea of not voting in a session will never happen. It would be chaos if we missed a proposed edict or things were passed up. It is good to keep it organized for a proper time.


I think they should get battle points for auto-winning because they are still taking the risk of their avatar dying. Perhaps subtract 1 from the battle points they would have gotten from actually fighting the battle.

they will receive points. its an edict we voted on so it is agreed.



Cheers. Navarro, where do I stick my battle points?

all taken care of man!:smash:


hmmm what to do about Carthage? they are getting a little too close for comfort and their alliance with the Epeiros is disconscerting.

this is what the hell ive been trying to propose lol!


I'm going to be honest-- it's all fun and RPing and stuff, but RPing against fat prick that gets on everybody's nerves is not what I joined up for.

cmon Il_Duce easy now, everything in game is strictly for fun. if you have a serous problem with someone lemme know in a PM and we will try to resolve the issue.

[Potocello]

navarro i know i know, but now they're really getting close! hahah

[navarro951]

you know what i really fear and may come as a good thing for some of you with all these proposal ideas as well need an emergency council?

in most of my Romani campaigns, in 264 its either scripted or coincidence, but Carthage seems to attack Messana in that year alot and starts the 1st Punic. Im about to end the turn and it may happen at anytime in this following year. So then it will be to hell with greece and the epirotes, but ALL FREAKIN LEGIONS REPORT SOUTH haha.

[navarro951]

@SwissBarbar your SOT has given me an idea. ill be adding a part to the library showing each battle each legio has been involved in so we can better argue our experience in the Curia. :idea2:

[Potocello]

you know what i really fear and may come as a good thing for some of you with all these proposal ideas as well need an emergency council?

in most of my Romani campaigns, in 264 its either scripted or coincidence, but Carthage seems to attack Messana in that year alot and starts the 1st Punic. Im about to end the turn and it may happen at anytime in this following year. So then it will be to hell with greece and the epirotes, but ALL FREAKIN LEGIONS REPORT SOUTH haha.

I'm game, i think it would be sweet if we had the 1st Punic war, i think it would be a lot of fun :2thumbsup:

[navarro951]

I know i actually am hoping for it to put all these dumb greece invasion arguments down. At least now well have a reason to attack another faction, not just for money. :laugh4:

[Potocello]

:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: Well if they attack Messena we should attack them saying that they are too close or they will attack rome next. I dunno :clown:

[desert]

Why not discuss reports of Carthaginian attacks in the Curia, but with a twist - all of them are false!

I'm sure Tiberius would love to fabricate a casus belli. :smash:

[navarro951]

well, they would be false, but that angle is not necessary. They have imposed forces close to us and we havent at all. Thats reason enough. The real treaty the Romans and Carthaginians had was that none of their forces could enter Messana or the region there either. They have utterly violated it for some 5 years now.

[desert]

O rly? Proof or it didn't happen. :magnify:

[Mooks]

Potocello, Iv been saying what you have long before you ever did. Your arguement is nothing fresh.

[navarro951]

you mean you want proof that was the treaty?

[desert]

Nah, I'm just messing with you! :laugh4:

[navarro951]

oo haha i can give it to you tho

[navarro951]

The conflict began after both Rome and Carthage intervened in Messana, the point of Sicily closest to Rome.

In 288 BC the Mamertines -- a group of Italian (Campanian) mercenaries originally hired by Agathocles of Syracuse -- occupied the city of Messana (modern Messina) in the northeastern tip of Sicily, killing all the men and taking the women as their wives.[4] At the same time a group of Roman troops made up of Campanian "citizens without the vote" also seized control of Rhegium, which lies across the straits on the mainland of Italy. In 270 BC the Romans regained control of Rhegium and severely punished the survivors of the revolt. In Sicily the Mamertines ravaged the countryside and collided with the expanding regional empire of the independent city of Syracuse. Hiero II, tyrant of Syracuse, defeated the Mamertines near Mylae on the Longanus River.[5] Following the defeat at the river Longanus the Mamertines appealed to both Rome and Carthage for assistance, and acting first the Carthaginians approached Hiero to take no further action and convinced the Mamertines to accept a Carthaginian garrison in Messana. Either unhappy with the prospect of a Carthaginian garrison, or convinced that the recent alliance between Rome and Carthage against Pyrrhus reflected cordial relations between the two, the Mamertines petitioned Rome for an alliance, hoping for more reliable protection. However, the rivalry between Rome and Carthage had grown since the war with Pyrrhus; an alliance with both powers was simply no longer feasible.[6]

A considerable debate took place in Rome on the question of whether to accept the Mamertines' appeal for help, and thus likely enter into a war with Carthage. While the Romans did not wish to come to the aid of soldiers who had unjustly stolen a city from its rightful possessors, and although they were still recovering from the insurrection of Campanian troops at Rhegium in 271, many were also unwilling to see Carthaginian power in Sicily expand even further. Leaving the Carthaginians alone at Messana would give them a free hand to deal with Syracuse; after the Syracusans had been defeated, the Carthaginian takeover of Sicily would essentially be complete.[7] A deadlocked senate put the matter before the popular assembly, where it was decided to accept the Mamertines' request and Appius Claudius Caudex was appointed commander of a military expedition with orders to cross to Messana.

Its on any site you look at. This is wiki's.

[navarro951]

Scipio eyes him back, unfaltering.

Or it would merely take a vote.

*Scipio takes his seat. Obviosly exhausted. His education ended years ago yet hes stuck in Rome, wasting his time because the senators wont send Rome's legions abroad. Why recruit them then? Shouldnt they be at home, farming their fields and making babies, then in the drilling fields? What kind of nation recruits armies then keeps them at home? Scipio decides to relax his throat, and start making friends and alliances to get his rank above a mere legatus. First he needs to get out of this city though.*

hmm a bit odd considering all but 1 legion is involved in a combat action right now. Legio III is just awaiting orders as every legio has done at least once.

[Mooks]

Im done argueing for my proposal. Someone please move my character to the Capuan fort with Legio III.

Also how are we going to roleplay Carthrage's navy? Their navy destroyed time and again Rome's fleet (that and storms) it just feels wrong to try to roleplay and not include a major factor, like the navy of a major seafaring power.

[navarro951]

well, and i know you have a fare knowledge of Rome and Punic wars (i enjoyed our AIM chat by the way haha was very intelligent) the Romans did start out winning on land but getting their asses handed to them at sea. I do kno that eventually they raised a good size navy and one some big sea battles. So i guess an edict could be proposed to raise navy with the add_money cheat. We could say that merchant ships were scrapped and the wood was used to make new fleets. Idk, its up 2 the curia of course well see what happens.

[Potocello]

Potocello, Iv been saying what you have long before you ever did. Your arguement is nothing fresh.

umm the alliance with Epeiros is new...that was the turning point for me, i was against it before. plus i dont want to go to war unless they attack Messana or us...

and fresh or not, what does it matter?

[navarro951]

^^^granted, but it would be smarter to gain the upper hand. i mean sure we could wait for them to attack us and then what? Rhegion would be besieged while the plebs wait for a legio to arrive???

[desert]

Did they really make an alliance with Epeiros?
I thought they just had a ceasefire.

[Potocello]

oh no i think you're right desert i think it was a ceasefire.

@navarro i think Longvs will end up supporting a war with Carthage due to their most recent maneuvers.

[navarro951]

oh no i think you're right desert i think it was a ceasefire.

@navarro i think Longvs will end up supporting a war with Carthage due to their most recent maneuvers.

well i hope, as much fun as civil war can be, i would hate for these political differences to get any worse. I hope everyone does not abuse the civil wars and start calling them on every little bickering. I plan to be as intelligent as possible before i ever end up doing that sort of mess.

and yes it was a ceasefire, which sort of bothers me, or rather Blasio, but at the same time who was it Mooks or sumone who in the curia said it was an already concluded war. Sorta true, but their are definitely now other reasons as to why we may need to take action against them.

[Potocello]

yah at this point, Carthage has gone a bit too far. Your right about the civil wars too, I mean Rome didnt have a civil war every time they disagreed. If they did, they would have had a civil war a day. It would have been absurd if a civil war had come from this whole Greece thing, i mean it was only an idea, and people went to far with the insults i think; myself included :laugh4:

[navarro951]

ya i suppose we all got carried away, just started watching that show Rome. Gift from my girlfriend, gotta love her haha! its pretty good so far.

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

Why not discuss reports of Carthaginian attacks in the Curia, but with a twist - all of them are false!

I'm sure Tiberius would love to fabricate a casus belli. :smash:


My true skills have been noticed! :laugh4: At least there's a couple here who like my theatrics :juggle2: :clown:

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

well i hope, as much fun as civil war can be, i would hate for these political differences to get any worse. I hope everyone does not abuse the civil wars and start calling them on every little bickering. I plan to be as intelligent as possible before i ever end up doing that sort of mess.

I wholeheartedly agree. I like decrying the treasonous behaviors of others to better my own position; but a Civil War should only be available (and it is according to the rules) when we're much more established and have significant groups who want to vie for power - just like you could only march on rome in vanilla RTW if you reached a certain threshold. We should also make a CA that says only one civil war per decade (or some other time limit) to symbolize order being restored and then unhappiness/plotting running its course leading up to new bloodshed.

Also, I don't want to step on the toes of RP'ers, but perhaps we could all come to an agreement (or vote on it in the Curia) to have an official code of conduct with permissible things to say about others and viable punishments. Real governments have their own rules and codes of conduct for their legislators, so I don't think it would be too much of a stretch to create one in our Curia for realism and for continued flow of events without such chaos.

Odd that I would suggest such a thing :dizzy2:

[everyone]

ok, who is the person who started the idea that Epeiros allied with Carthage? they're not. they're neutral.
bah.
and are we going to take mediolanum any time soon? because I'm still deciding what to do with S.P. Carbo, other than letting him scout around.

[desert]

Yeah, like when someone called Blasio "Basileus" in the Curia (I'm assuming he used the actual Greek word, and not rex) - in ancient Rome that would have been disrespect like woah and if someone had said that they'd better have had a lot of Vaseline ready for the impending ass-rape. Figuratively speaking, of course.

[Mooks]

I personally would only wage a civil war if I could honestly roleplay my troops being loyal to me and not Rome.

I dont want a war with Epiros because of how unnatractive their provinces are and how hard they are too attack. I also dont want a war in Sicily because of the full garrisons and nearby Punics (Sometimes they do land troops from the mainland). Greece on the other hand is pretty much pie compared to the other 2 options.

Also, we didnt go too far with the insults. We were barely insulting eachother at all. You totalwar forumers really have no idea what internet insults truely are. I used to play a browser game called Drugrunners. Sounds wierd but it was highly addictive (Until new manangement screwed everything up). It attracted alot of thugs and internet ego's, now THOSE were some flame wars. Curse words every post, a witty post every once in a while followed by a "well **** you". Really had some fun in those days....

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

I know Bean mentioned that you could change your Name in the User Control Panel (and I did it once before) but I can't for the life of me find where to do that again. Any help?

[everyone]

that sounds like a really uncivilised place where people can't think of creative insults. orgahs are known for a strange sense of humour.

actually, if you were to double-click the Epirote settlements, you would notice almost all (except their capital) has only a few units, and the Illyrian regions have mines (which means +2000 mnai per turn for each mine!!!)

edit: gah! TTCM posted before I did. to answer that, it's under "settings & options" , "edit email, password & username"

[SwissBarbar]

@SwissBarbar your SOT has given me an idea. ill be adding a part to the library showing each battle each legio has been involved in so we can better argue our experience in the Curia. :idea2:

Hehe, I'm a SOT freak, you know.

Another idea: I wanted to propose the thing about the Influence and the Curia when I would become Legatus, but feel free to propose it yourself, I'd second it.

Would be like this:

Every Avatar has 1 representative in the Curia. So he can debate, even when he's far away with the Legion. If one has 2 Influence-Points, he can have 2 Senatores in the Curia and one more per Point. So we not only roleplay, that the senate has more than 8 or 9 members *G* but also larger houses.

[navarro951]

Consul of the Legion's report, Spring 264

Military
units of Legio I Apulia merged as far as possibled and moved towards Arretium for retraining

Internal Affairs
nothing to report

Intelligence
S.P. Carbo has encountered a rather large Gaulish force while scouting the Alpine region. The army is stationed at the mountain pass northwest of Mediolanum.

Misc.
Regulus (TCV) may wish to move Legio I Apulia towards Massilia.

new save:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4354

edit you military part. I will assume you ment II latium as they are the only ones requiring retraining in Patavium hehe. I Apulia is still heading to Massilia. And on the matter of mediolanum, remains to be seen as that would mean war with Arverni. Im not worried about them, i just dont think its time to expand THAT far north. I completely agree with taking Epiros for their mines rather then pay for our own :beam:. I checked it out to when our diplomats were traveling through there, would be an easy take guaranteed. Greece requires a navy...not happening till we DO get mines or better means of making money. Patavium really helped though, once the plebs their are happy enough to get taxes to very high, the place makes over 1000. Its at normal and already makes 800:smash:

[navarro951]

Hehe, I'm a SOT freak, you know.

Another idea: I wanted to propose the thing about the Influence and the Curia when I would become Legatus, but feel free to propose it yourself, I'd second it.

Would be like this:

Every Avatar has 1 representative in the Curia. So he can debate, even when he's far away with the Legion. If one has 2 Influence-Points, he can have 2 Senatores in the Curia and one more per Point. So we not only roleplay, that the senate has more than 8 or 9 members *G* but also larger houses.

would get confusing keeping track. And really if someone represents you avatar, its really just your avatar in the sense that its you :clown:. So not truly necessary.

[everyone]

oh right, I was too used to typing "I Apulia" after every 'legio' that I type.
I'll go edit it now

[SwissBarbar]

~:doh: okaay. Then only I will RP it

[SwissBarbar]

Concerning the rights of the Senate and the Dictator, i agree in the point of recruitment and retraining.

[Mooks]

that sounds like a really uncivilised place where people can't think of creative insults. orgahs are known for a strange sense of humour.

actually, if you were to double-click the Epirote settlements, you would notice almost all (except their capital) has only a few units, and the Illyrian regions have mines (which means +2000 mnai per turn for each mine!!!)

edit: gah! TTCM posted before I did. to answer that, it's under "settings & options" , "edit email, password & username"

Ahh mines! To Epira patriots!


Also, yes very uncivilized. Not very healthy on a 14 year old mind. I can see why im so :daisy: right now.

[/Bean\]

Top left of every .org screen. Your user name is on the top right, just look to the other side of the screen and down a bit. Then it's on the side bar to change your name

EDIT: Woo I'm Dux, I didn't realise:laugh4:

[everyone]

did anyone notice anything strange about Adrumeto and Byzacena in the game?
https://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg90/greatkuningaz/weirdprovincebehavior.jpg
for one, there are three different types of roads in the province: normal, paved and another one which looks like it marks a province border
also, the city seems to belong to Qart-Hadast but on the minimap appears as eleutheroi-controlled.

what do you think would happen if we were to take the city?

[/Bean\]

Maybe its just yours...I'll check mine when I get home

Battle reports done at last now...phew.

[The Celtic Viking]

Blasio replies, Legatus, the only reason the consuls have been appointed is that no one is of rank able to become a consul. However, do not worry, for I am proposing a change in law next session allowing even legatus to run for the job. At that session, I will also step down as dictator and we will elect two new consuls. And as the rules already state, yes they can be impeached.

I'd just like to point out that Pvblivs isn't in the Curia and you're addressing an empty seat. :sweatdrop:

[navarro951]

ah yes, well then lets just say it is too keep the curia aware as well. Also, when i step down in 263, from now on the faction leader and heir will not be acknowledged in game. Those ranks will be removed, and the two consuls will lead.

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

Ok, I go to the spot in my Control panel to edit my password / email; but I don't have the option to change my user name. I've already changed it once, is there a limit?

[/Bean\]

Should the bottom two boxes on the screen when you follow that line of threads...

[The Celtic Viking]

Ok, I go to the spot in my Control panel to edit my password / email; but I don't have the option to change my user name. I've already changed it once, is there a limit?

There's no limit to how many times you can change your name, but there's a limit to how frequently you can do it. After you change your username you have to wait a while before you can do it again. (I don't know how long, though.)

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

There's no limit to how many times you can change your name, but there's a limit to how frequently you can do it. After you change your username you have to wait a while before you can do it again. (I don't know how long, though.)

Bollocks! I did it like 2 weeks ago :furious3:

[everyone]

oh, and who else also noticed the strange province behavior I noticed?

[navarro951]

wow thanks to TCV, we made 10k this season. :2thumbsup::2thumbsup::2thumbsup:

See, we dont need freakin Greece to make good money.

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

wow thanks to TCV, we made 10k this season. :2thumbsup::2thumbsup::2thumbsup:

See, we dont need freakin Greece to make good money.


:furious3:

[navarro951]

hehe just admit im right...take it, juust take it youll feel better about yourself :logic:

[everyone]

wow. I have to see this great income for myself.
anyway the things in the curia seem to have died down. though I still think the topic currently discussed is rather major and I want to see where it goes, so does cicero because he's particularly concerned about the ranks and stuff changing

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

Was up late tonight playing my own Romani campaign: 224 BC, all of Italia, taking Austria/Lower Germany, took Patavium, all of sicily, sardinia and corsica, and have slaughtered the Carthaginians. Of their territories in Africa I own Lepki, Carthage, Adrumento, Atiqa, and the ones to the west/southwest.

Anywho, I'm messing around wiping out all of their towns as part of my victory requirements and I sent a full stack army of Numidian Skirmishers to take out their town furthest to the southwest in Africa. I besiege the town for 4 turns and the stupid 190 man army outside the town attacks me, rather than their 1800 man army from the town itself. Well, battle commences and I annihilate the little army and lo and behold I get the "Enemy reinforcements delayed?" notification. "End Battle" w/ "Clear Victory" pop up.



CTD, autosave is 10 turns back




screw that, I'm going to bed.

[/Bean\]

Haha, that'll teach you not to save it before you end the turn. :beam:

Whens our next congressional session?

[/Bean\]

Idea: New thread; Cursus Honorum-Each Senator and their history of ranks, while alive and after they are dead?

[SwissBarbar]

I intend to do that in my SOT-Post. I'm a SOT-Freak anyway

[/Bean\]

Its more of a long term thing, so that subsequent family members can use their ancestors' ranks to effect in influence and so on. Makes for better role play when we are on our second or third characters

[SwissBarbar]

Ah, I see. Nice idea.

[navarro951]

Haha, that'll teach you not to save it before you end the turn. :beam:

Whens our next congressional session?

Winter 263...soon :jumping:



Idea: New thread; Cursus Honorum-Each Senator and their history of ranks, while alive and after they are dead?

Ya i will be doing this in the Pomoerium for you guys as more people die.

[desert]

I notice that even Baen, the most moderate senator, is calling for war. It's always a question of not IF Rome will attack, but who. Historically Rome did not run around attacking people just because they had the capacity to.

1. Why attack Carthage? Rome only attacked IRL because the Mamertines started asking everyone for help; your reasoning is that they made peace with Epirus? You guys did that too!
2. You destroyed the Po Celts for no reason, and then started talking about the Transalp Celts and the threat they posed - well, in IRL, those Po Celts were on good terms with the Romans BECAUSE they kept out the Transalpine Celts.

Greece, Jesus Christ! You could at least PRETEND that the Romans haven't become superhumans guided by the gods themselves.

[navarro951]

mm well said desert, but I think if we follow every real life expansion of the Roman Republic this game would become dull very quickly. If we can expand, why not? Lets just go about it right.

[desert]

I'm just saying that there's no need to Juggernaut the world. "We could get more trade and tax revenue" isn't a good reason to invade.

[navarro951]

it may not be a GREAT reason, but it can suffice. were making good money now, but more is always better. Not to be greedy or anything, but having more troops gives us more options.

[SwissBarbar]

if the game's getting boring we still can destroy ourselves by civil war ^^but I agree. We need to have good reasons to attack

[/Bean\]

If this was real then thats a very good argument. However, this game revolves around going to war-we need to go to war, or completely rewrite the rules of the game...I know which one I'd prefer.


EDIT: Haha, take that Marcellus :beam:

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

If this was real then thats a very good argument. However, this game revolves around going to war-we need to go to war, or completely rewrite the rules of the game...I know which one I'd prefer.


EDIT: Haha, take that Marcellus :beam:

You would perfer to re-write the rules of the game .......so you could be King of EB!?!?!?!? :yes:

[/Bean\]

Oh god...Order, order! :smash: Actually, that would be quite fun...

[everyone]

hmmm when navarro meant that he's going to use the rebels to kill off a RGB, I think he meant that guy (forgot his name) who has been sitting around in Arpi for some time but I recently saw him in Taras when I took the save earlier today.

[/Bean\]

So, fight the battle with him before Legio III get there you mean? So that he dies and we lose the first one?

Also Navarro you need to update the army orders in your SOT thread

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

I'd laugh my butt off if someone played the battle in person w/ the RGB we want to kill off and tried to win......and actually did. I did it w/ one family member in a campaign I was playing. I made the enemy keep marching up and down the mountain I was on until they were exhausted and then I would charge them from the rear/flank. I lost about half my body guard; but routed 2 units of Pedites Extrordinarii.


BTW: it looks like we have a new player! Welcome. Don't ally with Dux Cotta - he's seeking to be king! O:-)

[/Bean\]

Blates :2thumbsup:...I'm really not...I dont think that would work anyway. Shame really..:beam:

[Kipfizh]

Thanks for the welcome.

[/Bean\]

Doesnt cost anything to be nice :beam:

Only remember this thread has nothing to do with inside the Curia. Things may be very different in there

[Kipfizh]

Yes I am accustemed to online forum based RP. OOC and IC is obviously kept very far apart.

[/Bean\]

ok no probs

[Mooks]

If this forum game decided to be peaceful and all, I might visit here every 2 weeks or so. No war=no action. I can have fun being at peace in the game while playing it, but I really dont see the point of doing that with this.

[SwissBarbar]

welcom, Kipfizh :2thumbsup:

[Kipfizh]

Once again thanks. :clown:

[Potocello]

oh hey Kipfizh, welcome and have fun!

[Potocello]

i will take the legio III to get rid of those rebells soon. i have some stuff to do during the day so it will be late.

[desert]

If thats the case, "then the whole universe is going to die!"

At least come up with better reasons. :juggle2:

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

No one has been writing any stories lately, we've taken several towns since then. Even the battle reports are *weak*. Let's keep the history of our game a rich tapestry of many colors and layers.

(Edit: I was edited by a metal bovine. It's really sad that the intertubes are considered family friendly)

Also, Tiberius won't be in the Curia until at least the Rebels are dealt with. Possibly even a while longer if we are sent to engage a real enemy. My freeman clerk will be in attendence to keep me informed; but he will not speak; only deliver letters.

[navarro951]

Hey Kip! good to have you with us, im the gamemaster i hope you enjoy BtSH.

To answer all these questions no need for quotes

Yes ill update SOTs

Yes Ill update the library as i always do during the Cong. Session

No, this is not a "peaceful" game so to speak...I think it will be illyria as our next target.

[navarro951]

TCV, great piece their in the stories :2thumbsup:

And of course Blasio will honor his word :laugh4:

[The Celtic Viking]

Thank you, I appreciate it. ~:)

[navarro951]

Thank you, I appreciate it. ~:)

sure thing!

[Potocello]

okay note that there was an issue with the save...Scipio and Longvs were not with the Legio III.

Tiberivs is with the Legio III which is good, but so is Nero who should not be. I moved Longvs and Scipio to the Legio III

Longvs will be there in one season.
save:
http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Rtw_Uploads/RTWupload/BtSH-263-1-2TAKE_THIS.rar


Also posted in the save thread. there was an issue so i thought to post here too

[navarro951]

okay note that there was an issue with the save...Scipio and Longvs were not with the Legio III.

Tiberivs is with the Legio III which is good, but so is Nero who should not be. I moved Longvs and Scipio to the Legio III

Longvs will be there in one season.
save:


Also posted in the save thread. there was an issue so i thought to post here too

??? I posted the last save given...everyone else seems to be in the right place.

[Potocello]

bahhh whats going on then! i started it up and some characters were in the wrong place

could you test mine to see if it is okay? I dont know maybe its my computer...

[navarro951]

which characters were moved? everyone is in the right place from what i just saw.

[Potocello]

I noticed that Longvs never left Segesta. Nero was in the fort outside Capua. Scipio was in Roma. Im checking the save i downloaded now and that's what im seeing :embarassed:

[Potocello]

could someone just check the save navarro posted? Longvs should be outside of capua in the fort. Decimvs Scipio should not be in rome but should be in the fort outside of Capua.

[Mooks]

Potocello, my avatar goes where the ladies go, and the ladies arent at no legionnaires camp :2thumbsup:

[navarro951]

lol^^^

ill check it when i get a chance...(loading times are an a-hole)

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

Now that's what I'm talking about! These stories hitting the thread are excellent. It really brings the characters alive imo, whether they're a novel or just a paragraph. I love how we can go from drinking with the guys and talking about women to a hauntingly sad farewell between father and son which leads to a new page for the entire Res Publica. Well done on everyone's part.

Now, if only I knew the code, I might award a balloon to a story that really pulls me in hint hint

[navarro951]

hehe you can still give one of these babies :balloon2: hehe

[navarro951]

Just a quick OOC, their is still an opening for the position of Aedile of Segesta. Any of you tribunes who do not have a military post and want to eventually have a province of their own, Aedile is a great way to start. :hourglass:

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

:balloon2:

cool beans, now i know

[/Bean\]

I would write more stories, but I simply do not have the time that I had during the crimbo holidays when I did my long ones. I have a lot of commitments in the evenings and weekends, go school during the day, and have a lot of homework, seeing as I'm doing my A Levels. Stories can become low priority.

[everyone]

gah! I can't access potocello's save! all it does is take me to this weird site with loads of irrelevant stuff:
http://www.atomicgamer.com/

[Potocello]

bahahahaha. im sorry everyone I uploaded it to this site so it should work. i have an exam at 11 to 2 so i will have to do it after that.

[The Celtic Viking]

I got the save you (Potocello) linked to in this thread alright... is that the right one?

[Potocello]

I think it is but im not sure. when i took navarro's save some characters were in the wrong place.

[The Celtic Viking]

I'm gonna go ahead and use it then. It is different from Navarro's (for example, there's a third avatar in the third), but still the same year and season, so I guess it is.

[Potocello]

okay sounds good. i will deal with the Legio III later then.

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

Bean asked me to write a story outlining our failing relations with Carthage, which will lead up to our war with them (when we vote on it, of course - or they attack us!) If you have any story lines or ideas that you would like me to incorporate then post them here and when I get a good gist of what we all want it to look like I'll post in the stories thread.

TCM

[Mooks]

Bean asked me to write a story outlining our failing relations with Carthage, which will lead up to our war with them (when we vote on it, of course - or they attack us!) If you have any story lines or ideas that you would like me to incorporate then post them here and when I get a good gist of what we all want it to look like I'll post in the stories thread.

TCM

Write how Baen bribed the secretary to make up false messages from Carthrage.

also if you could, put me in the story at least once. Not really doing anything important and completely neutral. But just some mention of my character.

[Potocello]

nice story navarro, it will be nice to see how Dentatvs got to where he was. I like the idea

speaking of stories i haven't posted anything yet...hmm...

[navarro951]

o thanks ya ill be writing that story for a long time, 4-5 parts or so and most of it is fact.

[Potocello]

EDIT: nevermind the man of great potential will not be taken as it is the beginning of the turn

[navarro951]

well its Baens MoGP anyway.

[/Bean\]

We cant accept him anyway though can we?

[everyone]

yeah, didn't the rules say that
No 'Man of Great Potential' offers at the start of the year will be accepted.
(well I suppose it meant to say turn) and anyway even if bean accepts it, we'll still get a message that the adoptee died or something.

[/Bean\]

Haha yeah, those messages make me laugh every time :laugh4: < See

[everyone]

when I took the save, I tried accepting the adoption offer to see what happened, the guy was reported to have died.
anyway congrats navarro on becoming chancellor in WotB

[Kipfizh]

Well now that I am Aedile, I will probably have to use my SoT extensively. So, how will I edit?

[Potocello]

hey Kip, just send one of the Mods a pm and they will make you full member

[SwissBarbar]

yes, good idea. when you are member, you can upload your savegames here in the forum :2thumbsup:

[Kipfizh]

Cool, I've been having to use filefront.

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

I'm impatient for Potocello to vanquish the rebels! BTW, save the replay of the battle and PM me if you are able to.....I'll send you my personal e-mail. I want to watch!

[navarro951]

when I took the save, I tried accepting the adoption offer to see what happened, the guy was reported to have died.
anyway congrats navarro on becoming chancellor in WotB

thanks, I look forward to it :laugh4:

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

ok taking the save now
! :-D

P.S. Don't get us killed! :-P

[Potocello]

hahaha about time eh Tiberius? just warning you though, it may be one more season until we get there, Longvs is tired coming from Segesta.

i'll save the replay as you requested Tiberius. =)

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

i'll save the replay as you requested Tiberius. =)

cool beans. E-mail was sent to your PM

[Potocello]

navarro or everyone take the save please and end the turn. the legio III is tired and is right on top of the rebels. they retreated and the legio III is tired.

[everyone]

done. navarro pleease take the save and end the turn. the rebels retreated i need to kill them but the legio III is tired

I can't, and neither can navarro, because we all have to wait for the 24 hours to be up before the turn can be ended
and when I mean I can't, it's because CoL can't end the turn, only CoF can. and I can't seem to download any damn thing from rapidshare or megauploader. rapidshare thinks my IP address is constantly downloading something while I have no idea how to use megauploader :furious3:

[Potocello]

noooooo. okay as for megaupload, there is a 3 letter code at the top rightish. type it in and it dowloads

[everyone]

nooooooooo. megaupload also thinks my IP address is constantly downloading. gah!:furious3:

[/Bean\]

Would restarting your computer help? Cures 99.9% of bacteria problems with my PC. Or maybe rebooting the modem if that doesn't work.

[everyone]

I'm afraid that didn't work; megauploader and rapidshare seem to dislike Singapore IP addresses because I had attempted to download it from my computer, my brother's desktop and my friend's (yeah I tried using his computer and internet access to download the save file) and all attempts failed.
and I had also suffered from a lack of proper time management this afternoon from browsing the EB forums and waiting for someone else to take the save and upload it onto a different host, so I have ran out of time to take the save today and I have to go to bed now because there is another full day of school tomorrow. :furious3:
but I doubt that there is anything for me to do anyway, other than move the spies about; which there are no clear targets, and navarro says that he's saving up for the next congressional session so I might as well cut back on recruiting accensi; and TCV/Regulus' Legio I has yet to reach Arretium. so yeah. :gah: