What would it take for you to rebel?

[Mooks]

What would it take for you to rebel against your goverment?

Gulags? Mass surveillance and invasion of privacy? Too many taxes? Enforcement of morals?

[CountArach]

The cessation or complete subversion of Democratic institutions. Basically I see it as this - as long as real Democratic institutions exist there is still a method for me to change what is occurring. One other thing would be the inability to gather in public OR the restriction of freedom of speech. While these two exist I can protest safely knowing that what I am doing is legal.

[tibilicus]

A complete removal of civil liberties to put it short. Even then it would have to be extreme you know the whole 1984 scenario.

[Mooks]

A complete removal of civil liberties to put it short. Even then it would have to be extreme you know the whole 1984 scenario.

So they could slowly take away your liberties until its too late for you to even do anything (Wilson couldnt do anything, why do you think you could?). Interesting.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

What would it take for you to rebel against your goverment?

Gulags? Mass surveillance and invasion of privacy? Too many taxes? Enforcement of morals?

A combination of these, plus a fair chance of success.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Obama selecting some preacher for his inauguration :soapbox:

[Alexanderofmacedon]

I don't think I ever would. If all the liberties were taken from a democratic instituition, I would simply comply and work my way to the top of the totalitarian regime (granted they weren't trying to exterminate my race/ethnicity). Yes, selfish, I know...

So unless an oppressive regime had the aim of exterminating my ethnic group or nationality, I'd never rebel.

[seireikhaan]

What would it take? Realistically? Heck if I know. Trying to predict my future emotional, financial, and filial states is very likely impossible.

[HoreTore]

A few tyrannical laws would be sufficient. Like curfew laws, restrictions on free speech, the hunting of political organizations, you know the works.

[Fragony]

All the above; sharia-law.

[tibilicus]

So they could slowly take away your liberties until its too late for you to even do anything (Wilson couldnt do anything, why do you think you could?). Interesting.

Most probably. The way the establishment would go about doing this would be so secretive that no one would notice until it's to late. Some people suggest with ID cards and the like as well as controversial anti terrorist legislation were going down that road.

[Husar]

Raising VAT above 20%, yes, I'm a real capitalist.
Well, actually I don't know, I'd rather go elsewhere, but if they wouldn't let me out, I'd have to let myself out. :shrug:

[Tribesman]

What would it take for you to rebel?

The possibility that the next bunch of gobshites are going to be better than the current bunch of gobshites
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=mzHoEpoVgWE

[tibilicus]

More importantly would it even be possible to rebel in a western society?

I just can't ever see there being rebellion in country's like the UK or America where the establishment is so prominent in every aspect of life.

[Alexanderofmacedon]

More importantly would it even be possible to rebel in a western society?

I just can't ever see there being rebellion in country's like the UK or America where the establishment is so prominent in every aspect of life.

Some southern (and northern) states have a lack of weapons restrictions so if a people's militia wanted to form here in America, it would be fairly easy.

[Fisherking]

What would it take? Realistically? Heck if I know. Trying to predict my future emotional, financial, and filial states is very likely impossible.

I agree! I know that I have felt on the verge of rebellion a few times. ( mostly while in government employ). But I suppose you have to reach the point to know you are there… a really serious step…

[Samurai Waki]

I already have... :quiet:

[Incongruous]

Selling off the Royal Mail.

[Kekvit Irae]

Not enough mudkips.

[Furunculus]

that point on the path away from a representative democracy where i judge it a certainty that the end goal is a dictatorship.

[KukriKhan]

When the panem et circenses stop?

[Kralizec]

For $50, or whenever I feel like looting and burning other peoples property

If the government were to suspend elections, or possibly in the case of massive electoral fraud. I would never rebel against a democraticly elected government. I'd just vote with my feet in that case.

[Strike For The South]

Phoribition. I can deal with tyranny with whiskey

[naut]

If my vote, voice and rights we're revoked unlawfully.

[Caius]

So they could slowly take away your liberties until its too late for you to even do anything (Wilson couldnt do anything, why do you think you could?). Interesting.
Wilson couldnt do anything because he forgot what freedom was. But I would rebel if things got too worse, lets say, if they want to stay in the power even though the Constitution dont allow them.

And I would think twice about rebelling, ou have to be careful on what to do.

[Ronin]

If they take away the porn we´re gonna have ourselves a revolution.

[rasoforos]

If they take away the porn we´re gonna have ourselves a revolution.

If they do that I ll make so much money in the black market...




I will rebel if the church has a say in how I should live my life (or tries to take away my porn...)

[Mangudai]

When the governement forces me to pay 15% of my wages into a ponzi scheme.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Double-post, sorry.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

We have a backroom full of revolutaries already. ~;p

I would say if I thought the revolution had a chance to succeed. Which is to say, probably never. People don't care until it's too late.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Probably if I felt that my family was physically endangered or was being treated unfairly by the establishment. Im not sure. If enough people I knew were rebelling I would probably start too.

[Megas Methuselah]

Nationalism.

[CountArach]

Nationalism.
:inquisitive:

Sure, Nationalism is annoying, but enough to make you rebel? Do you feel like overthrowing the government every time you hear your national anthem sung at a sporting event?

[rory_20_uk]

I'd hope to be able to emigrate before the trouble really started.

~:smoking:

[Megas Methuselah]

Sure, Nationalism is annoying, but enough to make you rebel? Do you feel like overthrowing the government every time you hear your national anthem sung at a sporting event?

You're from Australia. I don't exactly know the situation in your country, but don't you imagine the Aborigines hate your government?

[CountArach]

You're from Australia. I don't exactly know the situation in your country, but don't you imagine the Aborigines hate your government?
1) Actually most Aborigines support the ALP government. They recently apologised for the then-governments taking away a generation of Aboriginals many decades ago.
2) Why is the level of support amongst minorities relevant to Nationalism?

[Megas Methuselah]

2) Why is the level of support amongst minorities relevant to Nationalism?

Independance - give us our own country. Sorry I wasn't clear at first.

It's nice to hear about the Aborigine relations in Australia, though.

[CountArach]

Independance - give us our own country. Sorry I wasn't clear at first.
Ah, now I understand. Aboriginals have a fair degree of autonomy in some areas of Australia (Usually the parts no one wants to buy...), but over the last two years the federal government has been intervening in their affairs far more than they had in the decade before that. But anyway, I understand your point now.

[Megas Methuselah]

The Canadian government have been taking away Native lands supposedly guaranteed by treaty over the past century. Although it has largely stopped now, the reserves are only a portion of what they once were in terms of size. Recently, apologies and financial compensations have been given, but I'd still rather see that land given back. It will never happen.

I hate "my" government.

[AlexanderSextus]

everything happening to the US now. Viva LA Revolucion!

[LittleGrizzly]

The removal of hope, both personal and friends and family... draconian laws and punishments for little offences, general civil liberty stuff...

I would hope if it ever came to it i am a young man without a family (as in wife and kids) as i would be far more willing to give my life in the effort to cure it. With a family i would be caught in two minds between just muddling through to give my kids a good life and a good start or giving my life in the hope that they are more free....

[TenkiWarPRIEST]

Polka music for a national anthem would suffice

[Meneldil]

Honestly, as said earlier, it would depend on numerous factor, emotional, political, economical, etc.

Though I think I would be much more prone to rebel against a democracy than against an autoritarian or totalitarian regime.

For all I know, I might as well join a totalitarian regime, given the right circumstances/brainwashing/whatever. And if I were to rebel against one, it would probably more caused by personal issues (my familly being harmed) rather than to protect some generic human rights.