Ancient Partying

[antisocialmunky]

So I was wondering, what would be the funnest guys to party with in the BC time? Do you guys like Roman Orgies? Making people fight to the death for your own amusement? Getting drunk and attacking the neighbors and stealing their booze? What? :beam:

Personally it might have been fun to get drunk and go charioting in ancient Egypt. I'm sure its happened. With all that beer, I'm sure someone did some DUi in the desert.:2thumbsup:

[Aemilius Paulus]

Absolutely gladiatorial combat. There is nothing like it today, and yet today's people are even more familiar with violence, (albeit being TV, and therefore not real) only making it more coveted. Orgies you can have today, and much better. Plus, who cares about that? You simply cannot beat real combat simulations.

[desert]

Telling war stories and weeping into eachothers' shoulders.

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Concerning the orgies I think it depends on whether you can afford a proper Hetaira or just a cheap Porne...

[Novellus]

Concerning the orgies I think it depends on whether you can afford a proper Hetaira or just a cheap Porne...

Nice one! :2thumbsup:

I'm not sure. I think Rome might be pretty fun.

Roman Priest: What happened to the Vestal Virgins?

Novellus: Did I miss one? :laugh4:

[desert]

You do realize that those...ehrm...not-virgins...are going to be buried alive now, right?

[Novellus]

You do realize that those...ehrm...not-virgins...are going to be buried alive now, right?

Oops! Didn't see that one coming!:sweatdrop:

WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME EARLIER?

I would have gone to the Cult of Venus instead!:wall:

[Aemilius Paulus]

Concerning the orgies I think it depends on whether you can afford a proper Hetaira or just a cheap Porne...

Bah, those Hetaira were probably too sophisticated for our simple modern minds. They were meant to entertain men's brains as much as genitals, and as far as brains and philosophical discussions go, the vast majority of us would be lost. Our modern wits have degenerated quite a bit, not to mention that we are not the elites and the brightest of our society, as the clients of Hetairas were. So I doubt any of you would be able to appreciate them. Mindless gladiatorial games are just the right thing for us, stupid and violence-addicted modern plebs.

[gamegeek2]

Wait, are we not the nerds/geeks of society? Wait...those Hetairai aren't cheap.

Whatev, what would the Romans think of the parties nowadays?

[Hax]

"What, you have to get the drinks yourselves? What happened to the slaves?"

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I think they'd be more shocked by the upright chairs, persian goblets, celtic trousers and too-tall independant women.

You want to know who to party with? Socrates, at least if Plato was even half telling the truth. I'm pretty dissapointed you guys are so into the blood and gore of the gladiators though. Some of those guys did actually die, you know.

Mind, I suppose no one told you about the live sex shows the Greeks had.

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Bah, those Hetaira were probably too sophisticated for our simple modern minds. They were meant to entertain men's brains as much as genitals, and as far as brains and philosophical discussions go, the vast majority of us would be lost. Our modern wits have degenerated quite a bit, not to mention that we are not the elites and the brightest of our society, as the clients of Hetairas were. So I doubt any of you would be able to appreciate them. Mindless gladiatorial games are just the right thing for us, stupid and violence-addicted modern plebs.
Bright elitist me would do everything for a real Hetaira. :smitten:

[Ibrahim]

Bright elitist me would do everything for a real Hetaira. :smitten:

are you thinking of the woman at the hot babes thread by any means?:clown::clown:

anyways...

come to Arabia (ancient). they got wld drinking parties, hunting, gambling, racing, mufayalah, and a chance to kill a king (If he insults you-just ask 3amr ibn kalthum):clown:*

we also got women markets too :clown: (ok, its a wedding market, so?)

*they still have drinking, gambling and horse races today, but the first two are undergroung :clown:

[gamegeek2]

OK, what would the Romans LIKE about modern parties?

[Ibrahim]

OK, what would the Romans LIKE about modern parties?

booz?

that's all I know-not a partyger, they're too boring to me.

[gamegeek2]

that's all I know-not a partyger, they're too boring to me.

Same, but some are exceptions.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

OK, what would the Romans LIKE about modern parties?

Depends, if they were looking to get completely hammered, our wine is considerably stronger. The Romans usually watered theirs though.

So I suppose a modern party would be cheaper, unit for unit.

[gamegeek2]

Hmm...they might try beer, much cheaper than wine.

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

are you thinking of the woman at the hot babes thread by any means?:clown::clown:
The babe thread brightened some dark hour. And I'm thinking on quite a few from there. :smiley:

The Germans must have had funny parties. Just drink, drink, drink and occasionally murder someone...

Also I've heard that the Celts had some religious fertility feasts where the younglings took care of the young ladies, with official approval of society. All for the welfare of the tribe...

[Aemilius Paulus]

Also I've heard that the Celts had some religious fertility feasts where the younglings took care of the young ladies, with official approval of society. All for the welfare of the tribe...

Great job! Now you have half of the women-deprived nerds & geeks here fantasizing about the Celtic society and certain aforementioned aspects of it :no:... No, that does not appeal to me.

[Novellus]

Great job! Now you have half of the women-deprived nerds & geeks here fantasizing about the Celtic society and certain aforementioned aspects of it :no:... No, that does not appeal to me.


Would you prefer to have a relationship with a young boy from Greece then? I heard it was considered at one point to be more intimate than those between men and women!:laugh4:

[gamegeek2]

Would you prefer to have a relationship with a young boy from Greece then? I heard it was considered at one point to be more intimate than those between men and women!

o rly? Maion, plz inform us...

[Zeibek]

I 'spose that partying for us not-too-rich folk would be pretty much the same as it is now, except that hookers would be a lot easier to hire.

Still, I guess I would've enjoyed a good decadent orgy. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Romans use opium for recreational purposes?

[Dayve]

Screw ancient parties, i'd spend all day in the Colosseum watching Christians and Jews get thrown to the lions and fight to the death while eating ancient Roman hamburgers and getting drunk to the point of passing out on the finest wines of south Italy.

[gamegeek2]

Screw ancient parties, i'd spend all day in the Colosseum watching Christians and Jews get thrown to the lions and fight to the death while eating ancient Roman hamburgers and getting drunk to the point of passing out on the finest wines of south Italy.

Nah, why not join the army at that rate? You get wine and women, AND you get to do the actual killing. S'pose the latter's not that exciting, but at least you get paid to expand the borders of Rome (and keep out barbarians)!

[Novellus]

o rly? Maion, plz inform us...

It was on the History Channel's "History of Sex" program. I'd send you a link, but it'd be NSFW (not safe for work). But if you're that curious into the matter, go ahead and Google it. :google:

By the way, the Ancients REALLY knew how to party! Take a look at some of their murals and frescos! :laugh4:

[Dayve]

Nah, why not join the army at that rate? You get wine and women, AND you get to do the actual killing. S'pose the latter's not that exciting, but at least you get paid to expand the borders of Rome (and keep out barbarians)!

Nah, the army life isn't one that suits me. All that marching and building forts and whatnot. Plus there's a chance i could die.

No, i'd be much better suited to sitting on my ass in the Colosseum all day. :egypt:

[Fixiwee]

Okay, counterquestion: Who had the best alcohol?
Cuz I'm joining with em.

[gamegeek2]

Novellus, send me the stuff. I'm on winter break, for high school.

[Dayve]

I'll have that link as well. Anything ancient-world related is my cup of tea, even if it is gay man boy love.

[Novellus]

Novellus, send me the stuff. I'm on winter break, for high school.

Uh, you can type it in Google yourself! I'm in high school too! One day, my mom's going to use the computer and type something into the search engine like "home improvement" and when she types in "hom", there's going to be a popup from the previous search "homosexuality in Ancient Greece"! Then I'll have to explain that one!:sweatdrop:

It was on the History Channel. It was on pretty late and it looked interesting. And boy, the ancients knew how to party!

Maybe I can get my weird friend to get you a link. His excuse for not liking Greece was because of the homosexuality that was promoted!


I'll have that link as well. Anything ancient-world related is my cup of tea, even if it is gay man boy love.

Uh.....something tells me I should watch what I say on these threads!

By the way, did anyone notice that these two smiley faces look EXACTLY THE SAME?

:knuddel:

[Ibrahim]

Okay, counterquestion: Who had the best alcohol?
Cuz I'm joining with em.

The Arabs!:clown:

or the Anglo saxons-I can't tell the diff.

not that I ever darnk it :proud:

[Hax]

Muslims have the best alcohol. The best of all.

[antisocialmunky]

I'll have that link as well. Anything ancient-world related is my cup of tea, even if it is gay man boy love.

Even if its nibbling on the rump of a old man Tiberius style?

[Novellus]

Even if its nibbling on the rump of a old man Tiberius style?

Here's an idea: let's send Dayve to the Averni or Aedui tribes!

Think about it: all of the posts have been either booze, fights, or women (or in Dayve's case, other men).

So if we sent him there, he could party with the Gaesetae, get drunk like hell, get hopped up on magic potions, get into fights, and have all the NAKED MEN that he fantasizes about!:laugh4:

(All right, I'll stop now!):sweatdrop:

[||Lz3||]

I wouldn't mind being a roman patricius (sp?) :smash:

Thought their tastes are kinda weird... diluted wine and/or Mulsum? pff (wine and honey) <.<


Is better than being ancient greek... with all that boy loving thing... hehehe :rolleyes:

[Dayve]

Here's an idea: let's send Dayve to the Averni or Aedui tribes!

Think about it: all of the posts have been either booze, fights, or women (or in Dayve's case, other men).

So if we sent him there, he could party with the Gaesetae, get drunk like hell, get hopped up on magic potions, get into fights, and have all the NAKED MEN that he fantasizes about!:laugh4:

(All right, I'll stop now!):sweatdrop:

No no, i don't think my penis is big enough to be a part of the gaesatae. I think if the Romans saw the Gaesatae marching towards them, and then they saw me in the middle, they'd nudge each other and say "Hah! look at that ones penis!" and all the other gaesatae would be like "Dude, go join the slingers man, you're letting the unit down".

Then i'd have to wander the battlefield waiting for someone to die so i could steal his pants. :embarassed:

[Subotan]

Here's a balloon to make you feel better Dayve.
:balloon2:
(The other reason is because you made me LOL :beam:)

[gamegeek2]

Obv the chicks love the Gaesatae, and they also use drugs, better party (not for me, that stuff does bad stuff to your body). Check out Russia Almighty's AAR for more proof.

I have a feeling that this thread will be locked soon.

[Ibrahim]

Muslims have the best alcohol. The best of all.

Iranis to be exact-they're stuff gets smuggled to kuwait every year. lots of people can die from it (apparently a jug=overdose):clown:

Iraqis are next best, followed By Egyptians, Jordanians, nd Morroccans.

do Algerians drink hard, Hax? they're the only ones whose Alcohol black market/market is a mistery.

otherwise *brings in "jama3at khars innasi"*:juggle2:

thatwas Arabic for: group to silence people-like a mafia really.:clown:

[Codyos Vladimiros]

Bah, those Hetaira were probably too sophisticated for our simple modern minds. They were meant to entertain men's brains as much as genitals, and as far as brains and philosophical discussions go, the vast majority of us would be lost. Our modern wits have degenerated quite a bit, not to mention that we are not the elites and the brightest of our society, as the clients of Hetairas were. So I doubt any of you would be able to appreciate them. Mindless gladiatorial games are just the right thing for us, stupid and violence-addicted modern plebs.

I'd gladly duel wits with a Hetaira any day, mind you--even more than I'd like to do that other thing. Smart women, especially whose who I can have intelligent discourse with, are terribly sexy.

I'd go for a elite Symposion, with Hetaira, philosophical discussion, and good wine! I party low-key!

[a completely inoffensive name]

This thread is so awesome, I wish it was a sticky.

[Cute Wolf]

Wow...

Muslims have the best alcohol. The best of all.
But in my country alcoholic beverages didn't get Halal marks from MUI...

Despite most of my "Muslim" friends drink beers and smoke hard..... that's right... no matter if they're haram for them...

[Subotan]

I wish it was a sticky.

Just how sticky do you want it to be?

[gamegeek2]

I'd gladly duel wits with a Hetaira any day, mind you--even more than I'd like to do that other thing. Smart women, especially whose who I can have intelligent discourse with, are terribly sexy.

I'd go for a elite Symposion, with Hetaira, philosophical discussion, and good wine! I party low-key!

Let's just shift them into modern times, with modern looks, clothes, brains, etc. Then let's see :yes:

[Novellus]

No no, i don't think my penis is big enough to be a part of the gaesatae. I think if the Romans saw the Gaesatae marching towards them, and then they saw me in the middle, they'd nudge each other and say "Hah! look at that ones penis!" and all the other gaesatae would be like "Dude, go join the slingers man, you're letting the unit down".

Then i'd have to wander the battlefield waiting for someone to die so i could steal his pants. :embarassed:

Well Dayve, it's pretty obvious that you have self-esteem issues. So remember this saying:

It's not how long big your spear is--- it's how you use it.

Think of it this way. I play as Koinon Hellenon quite a bit. They have hoplitai and Spartiartai. But the Makedonians are all proud over there with their huge sarissas. So the Makedonians march over and are like "Ha, take a look at their puny spears!" So they march into Greece, lay siege to Athens, and try to screw everyone over with the're long spears.

But guess what: they all ran away from Greece! Why? It's because even though the Greeks had short spears, they still screwed the Makedonians over in the end (due to flanking and various other tactics under my leadership).

Now in real life, the Makedonians conquered Greece due to the success of the pike phalanxes in combination with heavy cavalry. But still, guys with long spears get screwed over by guys with short spears in close combat.

Now I know what you're thinking: "How do I use my spear?" Well, the Asian peoples had the same problem and the Kama Sutra solved the problem with creative methods. I'm not going to describe it here, but basically, it tells us that size doesn't always matter when it comes to getting the job done!:yes:

So, go out there and learn how to use your spear!

"To lead untrained men to war is to throw them away"- Sun Tzu

Oh, and you can add this in your signature box with your balloons: :knuddel:

[antisocialmunky]

Now in real life, the Makedonians conquered Greece due to the success of the pike phalanxes in combination with heavy cavalry. But still, guys with long spears get screwed over by guys with short spears in close combat.


You do realise that if you applied your metaphor completely to that statement you're advocating keeping someone occupied with the penis and then going up the rear when they aren't paying attention... :sweatdrop:

[Novellus]

You do realise that if you applied your metaphor completely to that statement you're advocating keeping someone occupied with the penis and then going up the rear when they aren't paying attention... :sweatdrop:

Well actually, that was going about it HISTORICALLY. The point was that pike units can still get outperformed by the humble short-spearman!

Good one though. But that'd be a two-man job.:laugh4:

[Dayve]

Well Dayve, it's pretty obvious that you have self-esteem issues. So remember this saying:

It's not how long big your spear is--- it's how you use it.

Think of it this way. I play as Koinon Hellenon quite a bit. They have hoplitai and Spartiartai. But the Makedonians are all proud over there with their huge sarissas. So the Makedonians march over and are like "Ha, take a look at their puny spears!" So they march into Greece, lay siege to Athens, and try to screw everyone over with the're long spears.

But guess what: they all ran away from Greece! Why? It's because even though the Greeks had short spears, they still screwed the Makedonians over in the end (due to flanking and various other tactics under my leadership).

Now in real life, the Makedonians conquered Greece due to the success of the pike phalanxes in combination with heavy cavalry. But still, guys with long spears get screwed over by guys with short spears in close combat.

Now I know what you're thinking: "How do I use my spear?" Well, the Asian peoples had the same problem and the Kama Sutra solved the problem with creative methods. I'm not going to describe it here, but basically, it tells us that size doesn't always matter when it comes to getting the job done!:yes:

So, go out there and learn how to use your spear!

"To lead untrained men to war is to throw them away"- Sun Tzu

Oh, and you can add this in your signature box with your balloons: :knuddel:

It was more of a joke than anything to be honest. I won't talk about the size of my penis here, i'll just say that when un-erect it isn't as big as that of the Gaesatae model, at least from the angle i see it from.

Although, the Gaesatae model looks like they have been circumcised, and circumcision always adds, if only visually, quite a big of length onto it. In reality it's still the same size, it simply looks bigger.

[antisocialmunky]

There was a thread at the TWC about whether EBII naked units will have a mix of circumcised and uncircumcised willies as well ones of every size and shape.

I'm glad I stopped posting there. The Org is so much better.

[Dayve]

Was circumcision even heard of among the men of western "barbarian" tribes and peoples in EB's timeframe?

I know it's always been a stupid and pointless eastern religious custom which unfortunately spread to the west, but had it spread west as early as 272BC?

[Ibrahim]

Was circumcision even heard of among the men of western "barbarian" tribes and peoples in EB's timeframe?

I know it's always been a stupid and pointless eastern religious custom which unfortunately spread to the west, but had it spread west as early as 272BC?

It ain't pointless or stupid man...

anyways, as far as can be told, no, the western europeans didn't practice Circumcision. In fact, Hadrian tried to ban/proscribe the practice in the 2nd century AD.



But in my country alcoholic beverages didn't get Halal marks from MUI...

Despite most of my "Muslim" friends drink beers and smoke hard..... that's right... no matter if they're haram for them


well, their choice to do it-I'm not their sargeant..

[Conqueror]

Now in real life, the Makedonians conquered Greece due to the success of the pike phalanxes in combination with heavy cavalry. But still, guys with long spears get screwed over by guys with short spears in close combat.



You do realise that if you applied your metaphor completely to that statement you're advocating keeping someone occupied with the penis and then going up the rear when they aren't paying attention... :sweatdrop:

Surprise buttsecks! :clown:

Concerning that battle maneuver in EB, I prefer using naked Galatian mercenaries for the job. They're brutally effective at it, and don't need any spears.

Anyway, if I were living in the classical times I wouldn't care for parties. Certainly not for any bloody games in the circus. What I'd do is build up a big harem of the prettiest slave-girls I could afford, and spend all my free time in their company...
:belly::belly::belly::belly::belly::belly:

[Cyclops]

There are some great ancient parties on record: Kleopatra (and her ear-ring) vs Antony, Damocles vs Dionysius 2, Alexander vs the Persepolis fire brigade...

I guess the ancients would find our parties somewhat unstructured, as I believe even Roman orgies had rules. However there are more consequences in our world of CCTV and hand held camera phones (as I found out this New years Eve-I believe I'll be on U Tube soon, as "comatose guy in blanket on porch")...

Still it would be marvelous to quaff Falernian (sp.?) with Caesar or a krater with Kraterus, with a translator and a kevlar vest (just in case Brutus or Alexander showed up a bit snaky). In vino veritas and all that, you could get a real insight into their true character.

I suspect the modern array of products with all the types of alcohol and drugs on offer would pretty much shatter our ancestors. They led tough lives we can't imagine, but refined spirits and unfamiliar chemicals would lead to some quick goodnights.


Was circumcision even heard of among the men of western "barbarian" tribes and peoples in EB's timeframe?

I know it's always been a stupid and pointless eastern religious custom which unfortunately spread to the west, but had it spread west as early as 272BC?

Maybe they'd be circumcised as a result of battle? Just the hardened veterans....:oops:.

[marodeur]

I'll have that link as well. Anything ancient-world related is my cup of tea, even if it is gay man boy love.

you ve also seen alexander - the movie ?

[Aemilius Paulus]

Does it bother anyone that people here seem to be so obsessed with discussing penises? Oh, and please, not another Alexander(movie)/"was megas Alexandros gay" discussion!

[penguinking]

Was circumcision even heard of among the men of western "barbarian" tribes and peoples in EB's timeframe?

I know it's always been a stupid and pointless eastern religious custom which unfortunately spread to the west, but had it spread west as early as 272BC?

It's certainly not pointless- it dramatically reduces the odds of contracting STDs.

[Dayve]

It's certainly not pointless- it dramatically reduces the odds of contracting STDs.

That's really just a myth that advocates of circumcision like to tell people. Any doctor who knows his stuff will tell you that's a crock.

[Atilius]

Did someone say "ancient partying (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text.jsp?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0174%3Atext%3DSym.%3Asection%3D172a)"?




...He said that he met with Socrates fresh from the bath and wearing his best pair of slippers—quite rare events with him—and asked him whither he was bound in such fine trim.

“To dinner at Agathon's,” he answered. “I evaded him and his celebrations yesterday, fearing the crowd; but I agreed to be present today...

...A few moments after, they heard the voice of Alcibiades in the forecourt, very drunken and bawling loud, to know where Agathon was, and bidding them bring him to Agathon. So he was brought into the company by the flute-girl and some others of his people supporting him: he stood at the door, crowned with a bushy wreath of ivy and violets, and wearing a great array of ribands on his head. “Good evening, sirs,” he said; “will you admit to your drinking a fellow very far gone in liquor, or shall we simply set a wreath on Agathon—which indeed is what we came for—and so away? I tell you, sir, I was hindered from getting to you yesterday; but now I am here with these ribands on my head, so that I can pull them off mine and twine them about the head of the cleverest, the handsomest, if I may speak the—see, like this! Ah, you would laugh at me because I am drunk? ...

...Reclining there, he proceeded: “Now then, gentlemen, you look sober: I cannot allow this; you must drink, and fulfil our agreement. So I appoint as president of this bout, till you have had a reasonable drink—myself. Agathon, let the boy bring me as large a goblet as you have. Ah well, do not trouble,” he said; “boy, bring me that cooler there,”— for he saw it would hold a good half-gallon and more. This he got filled to the brim, and after quaffing it off himself bade them fill up for Socrates, saying, “Against Socrates, sirs, my crafty plan is as nought. However large the bumper you order him, he will quaff it all off and never get tipsy with it.” ...

... when suddenly a great crowd of revellers arrived at the door, which they found just opened for some one who was going out. They marched straight into the party and seated themselves: the whole place was in an uproar and, losing all order, they were forced to drink a vast amount of wine...

[Cute Wolf]

Well, the most polite and using well their brain will JUST DRINK... and get their sexytime with their wifes and slaves at home... at least they are safer and doesn't transmite the STD's

[russia almighty]

Introduce the Romans to some everclear, or 151, and I think they'd be rushing for the time machine.


You know how you defeat a heiteria? Try to explain integration.

[Labrat]

That's really just a myth that advocates of circumcision like to tell people. Any doctor who knows his stuff will tell you that's a crock.

Actually, the WHO is currently sponsoring circumcision in parts of Africa in an attempt to control the spread of AIDS. Apparently, the area under the foreskin is very rich in white blood cells, which serve as a stepping stone for the virus to infect the body. Removing the foreskin removes these cells. However, I understand the evidence of circumcision's efficacy is not entirely complete (but it's not my field of expertise), and in any case it only reduces the chance of infection.

[Subotan]

Yes, circumcision does allegedely help to decrease the chance of getting HIV. But HIV was not prevalent in Western Europe/Judea in 272 BC

[antisocialmunky]

HIV is thought to have only recently jumped to humans because someone raped or got raped/bitten by a chimpanzee.

[Aemilius Paulus]

HIV is thought to have only recently jumped to humans because someone raped or got raped/bitten by a chimpanzee.

Considering the infamous ape prostitutes in Africa, and the boundless lust of men, the poor non-human primates were most likely raped first. The first case among a European was a British sailor in 1952. From Congo (Zaire) I believe. Then again, apes have been rumoured to attack women with intent to have intercourse with them, although it is highly disputed and sketchy.

[Novellus]

Considering the infamous ape prostitutes in Africa, and the boundless lust of men, the poor non-human primates were most likely raped first. The first case among a European was a British sailor in 1952. From Congo (Zaire) I believe. Then again, apes have been rumoured to attack women with intent to have intercourse with them, although it is highly disputed and sketchy.

TAKE YOUR STINKING PAWS OFF ME YOU DAMNED DIRTY APE!:laugh4:

[gamegeek2]

Those "elite" symposia drinking/philosophical discussions often evolved into orgies as well.

And remember, the hetairai were the highest-ranking women in Greek society, and they often rose from humble backgrounds like slavery. If they had talent at pleasing men (in many different ways, dancing, talking, ****ing, partying, even just walking around in the street together) then often they could get some money and become free. Also, they were their own agents, were allowed to manage their own affairs, and their opinions were considered equally valid to those of male citizens.

Oh, and the prostitutes of Greece also had an incredible way of getting customers - they wrote "FOLLOW ME" on the bottom of their sandals, and a customer would see this, and be able to follow her (to who knows where...)

[AlexanderSextus]

1975 THEY CREATED AIDS INSIDE A LABORATORY!

[gamegeek2]

o rly?

[Ibrahim]

another conspiracist, eh?

where is the evidence?

[Dayve]

I know another way to stop AIDS without decapitating your wang.

Don't have sex with someone who has AIDS and don't have sex with chimpanzees! :whip:

[Foot]

This thread has run its course. AIDS is a serious topic, but one that does not belong in the EB forums.

Closed