How to get Published?

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Hey All,


How do you get a book published on a typical basis? Just cuirous. :yes:. :medievalcheers:

[Lemur]

Step 1: Write book.
Step 2: Send to agents. (http://www.sff.net/people/VictoriaStrauss/agentsearch.html)
Step 3: ????
Step 4: Profit!

[Yoyoma1910]

What kind of book?

[Somebody Else]

Vanity publishing. It's the way forwards. Otherwise, well - try getting an agent to pick you up (most publishers won't even bother with first timers), there's a reasonable chance of success - I mean, well, one in a hundred might get through... (To the agents accepting them, that is... still have to wait out on the publishers).

But if you do go for the agency way, they usually require a cover letter, saying a little about who you are, what your story is, &c., a synopsis (preferably with a chapter outline), and 2 or 3 chapters (if you've finshed the entire manuscript, go ahead and send it in, they'll read as much as is required to decide whether to reject or not).

I've been the guy reading submissions - it's the lowest paid job in the office (I got free tea). In two weeks I took in 80 odd submissions. I rejected 80 odd submissions.

But hey! You might be the next J.K. Rowling... There's never any harm in trying.

[Warluster]

It is very hard. A publisher usually looks at the first line, then the next, etc for the first twenty - fifty pages, and if they like every single line they'll publish you. Depends on what the publisher does. As has been suggested, you just send the manuscript off to several publishers and hope they accept them. First time they don't, but they offer constructive cristiscm and then you go from there.


Step 4: Profit!

:laugh4:
Not always guranteed; usually its more rewarding seeing your book get published. (Though I am sure a lot of people would disagree :grin3:)

[desert]

On second thought, I have never been published.

[King Jan III Sobieski]

Vanity publishing. It's the way forwards. Otherwise, well - try getting an agent to pick you up (most publisher's won't even bother with first timers), there's a reasonable chance of success - I mean, well, one in a hundred might get through... (To the agents accepting them, that is... still have to wait out on the publishers).

But if you do go for the agency way, they usually require a cover letter, saying a little about who you are, what your story is, &c., a synopsis (preferably with a chapter outline), and 2 or 3 chapters (if you've finshed the entire manuscript, go ahead and send it in, they'll read as much as is required to decide whther to reject or not).

I've been the guy reading submissions - it's the lowest paid job in the office (I got free tea). In two weeks I took in 80 odd submissions. I rejected 80 odd submissions.

But hey! You might be the next J.K. Rowling... There's never any harm in trying.

I'm unemployed; I'll work for minimum wage if free tea is involved!!! PM me if you guys have any openings!

I'd like to write a book too. I think I'd start out trying to publish papers, first, though...

[LeftEyeNine]

It read "How To Get Punished" at first sight and I was...uh...well...excited for a moment.

:smoking:

[Yoyoma1910]

You could always go the academic route...





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[Fixiwee]

You could always go the academic route...





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Hu? What's wrong with that?

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Vanity publishing. It's the way forwards. Otherwise, well - try getting an agent to pick you up (most publishers won't even bother with first timers), there's a reasonable chance of success - I mean, well, one in a hundred might get through... (To the agents accepting them, that is... still have to wait out on the publishers).

But if you do go for the agency way, they usually require a cover letter, saying a little about who you are, what your story is, &c., a synopsis (preferably with a chapter outline), and 2 or 3 chapters (if you've finshed the entire manuscript, go ahead and send it in, they'll read as much as is required to decide whether to reject or not).

I've been the guy reading submissions - it's the lowest paid job in the office (I got free tea). In two weeks I took in 80 odd submissions. I rejected 80 odd submissions.

But hey! You might be the next J.K. Rowling... There's never any harm in trying.



So you do submissions..... If I send my book to you, would you do me a favour and pass it along? :medievalcheers::pokemon::crown::cake:~:pimp:

[Somebody Else]

So you do submissions..... If I send my book to you, would you do me a favour and pass it along? :medievalcheers::pokemon::crown::cake:~:pimp:

Did - it was a while ago, and on work experience. (Just goes to show how important the role is in the company...)

[Decker]

So Somebody Else, was there any specific reason for dismissing 80 odd submissions? Besides like, bad ideas, horrible grammar, etc...?? Any tips you could give out? :yes: :eyebrows:

[Strike For The South]

Buy your own printing press.

[Decker]

Too lazy too... maybe if you bought it for me.....

[Strike For The South]

They can't be that expensive.

[Decker]

Exactly, it wouldn't cost me a dime if you bought it for me :yes:

[Strike For The South]

tooshay

[Somebody Else]

So Somebody Else, was there any specific reason for dismissing 80 odd submissions? Besides like, bad ideas, horrible grammar, etc...?? Any tips you could give out? :yes: :eyebrows:

There were a lot of really outlandish ideas - for example, the first submission I looked at was a story about how Hitler and Eva escaped the bunker, to go off and live in Brazil for a while, until Mossad found them and shipped them off in a crate to Israel.

Speaking of which, I am a bit of a Nazi when it comes to syntax and grammar - poorly written work offends me (and I don't mean spelling, that can be easily rectified).

Some were so dull they was a trial to read - nothing like dismissing a book after the 3rd line...

I remember one was entertaining, well written, &c. - but it was somewhat lacking in plot, so that failed.

Market forces are also an issue - publishing is a business, and if a book won't catch the mood, it won't sell. That, and telling the same story as someone else is a problem - if a big name author has just published a book on a subject, no-one is likely to do well trying the same thing.

Thing is - a book has to be entertaining, it has to be something that someone is happy to sit down and read - so if I couldn't happily do that (and I did have a sofa and endless tea), then the submission failed, and I read pretty much anything. (Although I'd have dismissed James Joyce for being a loon)

If you have written something, the best thing to do is to try it on your friends first - if they like it, then send it to several agencies. (Try friends first because it's cheaper... but they could be biased, of course). It's also worth checking what the agencies specialise in - it's no good trying to get specialists in children's literature to promote a hard-boiled detective novel... As I said before, most publishers will simply ignore any submissions - they have agencies to sort out the dross.

Remember, everyone thinks they have a book in them. In most cases, it's just gas.

[Kekvit Irae]

Have sexual relations with the publisher. That's how Twilight got published.

[Lemur]

Here, this video should explain everything: From the Typewriter to the Bookstore (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ78WHpGZ1o).

[pevergreen]

Have sexual relations with the publisher. That's how Twilight got published.

I knew there was some weird reason.

[naut]

Have sexual relations with the publisher. That's how Twilight got published.
I KNEW IT! AH HA!

[Kekvit Irae]

How else would a pile of bullplop could make it on a bookstore's shelf and spawn legions of raving lunatics and fangirls (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFG9lXc2upQ)? Warning: Said link will make your ears bleed and give you nightmares until the day you die.

[naut]

On a serious note. Getting published is damn, damn hard. I'm currently trying to, but it's not something you could actually rely on for an income, it's not feasible. How to get published? Well it depends:


You get lucky
You know someone in the industry
You have a commercial gimmick (aka Harry Potter)
You write for the current market trends and wants (which usually involves a Satanic ritual and selling your soul to Lucifer)
You are ridiculously good

[Alexanderofmacedon]

Depends. For mine, I'm trying to find a small firm that specializes in military history. The small ones will usually do quality work, but not give you a ton of profit. I get very little, and it amounts to only a bit more than what I spent on research.

That's just what happens....author's are not rich people (unless you hit it big).

[Decker]

Yeah... usually being well established academically also helps from what I've seen. Articles seem to be an easyish route.

And hey Alex, what are you trying to get published? Like what's it about???

[Yoyoma1910]

tooshay

touché



You will never get published if you misspell words.

[Strike For The South]

touché



You will never get published if you misspell words.

Do Québecois not understand humor! I mean I thought it was gold!

[Alexanderofmacedon]

Yeah... usually being well established academically also helps from what I've seen. Articles seem to be an easyish route.

And hey Alex, what are you trying to get published? Like what's it about???

A history of some specific battles on the eastern front in World War II. Northern Estonia near the border at Narwa.

[Yoyoma1910]

Do Québecois not understand humor! I mean I thought it was gold!

What, now I'm a Québecois?


That's it, the state of Louisiana takes back Jim Bowie.

[Strike For The South]

What, now I'm a Québecois?


That's it, the state of Louisiana takes back Jim Bowie.

Cajun, Québecois, Acadians. Yall are simply impeding us WASPs right to power

You can't take him back. He became a Mexican citizen living in Texas so nanananannanannaaannaaa.

[Yoyoma1910]

Cajun, Québecois, Acadians. Yall are simply impeding us WASPs right to power




And may we continue to do so until you are returned the souls that you were born without.

[Strike For The South]

And may we continue to do so until you are returned the souls that you were born without.

Well mon cher its seems not much changes from the 18th century. Adieu

[Yoyoma1910]

Well mon cher its seems not much changes from the 18th century. Adieu

Now who doesn't have a sense of humor?

[Strike For The South]

Now who doesn't have a sense of humor?

Good sir I have my humor! I just like to sprinkle in French phrases. If I could be frank it has always been my dream to go to Nawlins, learn how to cook, wrestle gators, and then steal one of your womenfolk and bring her back cross the border. There is something about that cajun accent that separates them from ordinary belles.

[seireikhaan]

How else would a pile of bullplop could make it on a bookstore's shelf and spawn legions of raving lunatics and fangirls (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFG9lXc2upQ)? Warning: Said link will make your ears bleed and give you nightmares until the day you die.
That... was a joke, right...? Right...? :shocked2:

[pevergreen]

I don't think so 'khaan. :no: