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TheFlax
03-02-2009, 16:57
Sorry, I had forgotten we got our win condition in a separate PM. Here it is:


Just to clarify, you are both Serial Killers. Technically this makes you another "mafia" family, but since your neither family and your work is more akin to a serial killer, I thus name you, especially you Reenk :laugh4:

Your objective is to eliminate the power roles in this game - you need not kill a single non power role to win. Once all power roles are dead, you win.

Also, if you wish, I can provide you with a skeleton for a cover PM - it is up to you to fill in the rest.

Forgive me for not including all of that in your original PM, I was very tired when I wrote it.

ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
03-02-2009, 16:58
Shame. I liked this game to! :rtwyes: :crown::crown::hanged:




...Opening Database...
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Subject: Gotvie Varmon Sildeir the III
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 183lbs

Subject Status: Engineer aboard the JCNC Ravager
Psychological Report: Loyal Member of the JCNC (Pro-Town). Due to security risks, access is denied to your psychological profile during the current time. We are sorry for any inconvenience. Please ask your Superior Officer if you need any help.
Access Privileges: Access Denied. All non-vital personnel have had their security level reduced to minimum for the current duration. Please ask your Superior Officer if you need any help.

Please Submit all Questions via Query to the Main Host Computer.



Me! :pisces:

seireikhaan
03-02-2009, 17:07
...Opening Database...
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Subject: Grigorii Ostranovii
Age: 26
Gender: Male
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 188lbs

Subject Status: Lieutenant of the JCNC Ravager, Captain of the Zeta-Red Squadron
Psychological Report: Loyal Member of the JCNC (Pro-Town). Known for extreme recklessness, severe depression, and thrill seeking. Although not suicidal, Lieutenant Ostranovii has been in the hospital repeatedly for injuries sustained from motorcycle and jet crashes, bungie jumps, space walks, bar fights, and other miscellaneous "accidents".

It is believed this lack of self preservation and attempts at thrill seeking are directly related his his sister sudden death after birth and death of her husband. Despite this, Lieutenant Ostranovii is relatively stable individual and be trusted.
Access Privileges: Lieutenant Ostranovii is allowed to access the Crew Manifest once per night - other access attempts, either by the Lieutenant or other source, will be denied for security reasons. Once having gained access to the Crew Manifest, he may then search one member for whether or not they are a part of the JCNC Ravager crew, and as to their current Psychological Health (Detects Innocence or not).

Lieutenant Ostranovii may only access the Crew Manifest on the Flight Deck or the Medbay/Labs

Please Submit all Questions via Query to the Main Host Computer.
I was totally honest in this one. Honestly...

TinCow
03-02-2009, 17:37
Anyways, why was the game cancelled?

YLC had an unanticipated situation which has deprived him of internet access for the indefinite future. There's no way for a game to continue when the host can't run it.

Reenk Roink
03-02-2009, 18:35
I never did want to kill shlin28. I really was a Nephilim hunter. I told you the truth about my abilities. I was going to be on your side until the Nephilim were gone where then we would move to massacre all the pro town roles through lynch and then murder (we already had seireikhaan, Sigurd, and Chaotix27 flagged without using TheFlax's ability :2thumbsup:). :laugh4:

We would indeed leave the innocent townies alone as best we could. :bow:

Role PM:


...Opening Database...
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Subject: Guntram Faust
Age: 66 (appears 28)
Gender: Male
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 205lbs

Subject Status: Assassin of the 13th Operative Corp
Psychological Report: Loyal Member of the Operatives (Pro-Operative). Guntram Faust is the pride and joy of the Psi Corp. Living testament to the advances in biotechnology, Guntram Faust is genetic perfection. Originally an untrained psi, Guntram was sent through rigorous training programs until he was broken down enough for them to properly mold as they saw fit.

Guntram is a Psychokinetic of incredible power. He is able to deconstruct and reconstruct matter as he sees fit, allowing his imagination to bleed into reality. If it were not for his limited range, Guntram would pose a major security threat and would have been terminated.

However, he pays a terrible price when he kills a living creature - as he deconstructs the matter, he absorbs the psyche of the dieing individual, incorporating it into his own. Methods are already underway of relieving him of the burden before he goes insane.
Psionic Abilities: Guntram is well beyond even a P1 Psychokinetic, and the Psi Corp have decided that the best way to use his abilities is for the assassination of specific targets. Each night, Guntram selects one person - that person will die, and no ability besides their own can save them. Such people cannot be revived either, and no evidence may be gleaned from them.

Guntram will become increasingly unstable the more he kills - after his 4th kill, he can no longer kill again without risking severe mental breakdown.

Guntram's ability is limited locally, and thus can only be used on someone located in the same Location he is in.

Other: Guntram's partner for this mission is Operative Reimon Leclair (TheFlax)

Please Submit all Questions via Query to the Main Host Computer.

For some reason or another boudica piqued my interest on night 1, while Rhythmic got the attention of TheFlax. In the first night I restrained myself from killing while TheFlax investigated boudica and got the weird result. In the second night, he investigated Rhythmic while I tried to kill boudica and killed shlin28 by accident.


Night 2

You quickly dart through the halls in your Containment Suit towards the location of your target that Reimon gave you. You slide gracefully to the door, which, with a twitch of your mind, you slice cleanly in half and front kick it in. A quick ransacking of the room reveals that she is not here or is hiding, but before you can search further, one of those human idiots barges in, making tons of noise.

Quiet as death, you repel up the side of the wall and hang onto the ceiling, waiting for the opportune moment. It comes, and you drop to the floor and palm thrust him in the face as he turns to look. His head dissolves into subatomic particles as the body falls limply to the floor, bleeding out. You walk away, thoroughly irritated at a wated night.

One Kill used

As soon as this happened, I was getting vibes of all our failed attempts in Whispers of the Night again! :laugh4: I decided to try and get boudica lynched by calling her out. It was working and seireikhaan did investigate her.

Night 3 we kinda got worried that everyone had a role. I decided to push harder in the thread on boudica, get the mob to kill her for me (did not really know or care that she was Nephilim then), and then moved to knoick of this monstrosity Rhythmic.

But this woman stopped me as you know!


Night 3

*see thread for full details*

The Nephilim's plea touches you - she is extremely beautiful, almost able to break your focus and your guard. It would be hard to fight both at the same time with such a disorienting effect, so you concede her point for now and leave, intent on returning to finish the job.

No kills used.

Now I did think boudica did this initially, after all, I had just went after her, why not try and stop me? The push to have boudica lynched was going well, but then I decided, this seireikhaan guy might investigate me and is still not so scummy, might as well reveal and go public.

So I did and told you all Rhythmic was the beast I almost killed, so then you killed him and vindicated me, good! :2thumbsup:

Then the entire Lust thing started, all of it I told in the thread is really what I got and thought:


You are willing to work with the woman "Lust" for now, since she promises you both the woman you love and the secrets to your clouded past, a past that was stripped away from you...but only if you could remember how or why...

Because she is your only link to this mysterious man who knows it all, so you will guard her...for now. In return, she will decide how you vote during the day, so you will receive periodic PM's from me telling you how to vote from Lust.


Lust sends word - Vote for Seireikhaan

So I did. Wasn't exactly sure if boudica was Lust or not or if working with her was bad (could kill seireikhaan and Seamus through her), but TheFlax made a great argument that convinced me, so we gutted her. My partner was spot on yet again! :bow:

We were going to lay low for a while, gather more roles, and letting the Nephilim or whatever kill more, while making seireikhaan and Sigurd look bad so that it wouldn't seem odd if we lynched them. I had expected by the end of the game, I would be lynched as well as those two, but TheFlax did such a great job of hiding. :bow:

So thank you to YLC for hosting, it was a ton of fun even for a short game. :bow:

Quintus.JC
03-02-2009, 18:38
...Opening Database...
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Subject: Quintus J. Cicero
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 182lbs

Subject Status: Engineer aboard the JCNC Ravager
Psychological Report: Loyal Member of the JCNC (Pro-Town). Due to security risks, access is denied to your psychological profile during the current time. We are sorry for any inconvenience. Please ask your Superior Officer if you need any help.
Access Privileges: Access Denied. All non-vital personnel have had their security level reduced to minimum for the current duration. Please ask your Superior Officer if you need any help.

Please Submit all Questions via Query to the Main Host Computer.

Just another townie.

Interesting to hear what Boudica has to say.

Chaotix
03-02-2009, 21:09
Sad that this game has been canceled. Can any of the mods shed some light as to the reasons?



Subject: Dmitrii Tvormirov
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Height: 5'3"
Weight: 118lbs

Subject Status: Program Director of the "Machaena" program
Psychological Report: Independent Scientist (Pro-Town). Dmitrii Tvormirov works for Dynamic Systems and Intelligences, a Robotics and AI development company and firm, which sells it's products to either the Combine or ECD at competitive prices. Dmitrii however is a noble spirited man and the foremost brilliant mind since the loss of Lyon Ashcroft, his mentor and predecessor, some years ago.

Dmitrii Tvormirov is currently on board the Ravager, having arrived in secret to begin discussions with Combine officials on his latest project, once safely in Combine space.
Access Privileges: Dr.Tvormirov has brought his tools with him and setup in the Medbay/Labs. At anytime, he is given full privilege to select any dead crew member and conduct his "Machaena" program on him for testing. Reportedly, this revives the subject with limited cognitive abilities, using cybernetics and biogenetic enhancements.

Obviously, only the Medbay/Labs have the necessary equipment to use this ability, and there are only enough materials to do it once.

Please Submit all Questions via Query to the Main Host Computer.

Looking at TheFlax's and Reenk's role pms, I am confused and annoyed, as I most certainly would have regretted telling Reenk my identity had the game continued.

However, by telling Reenk of my role, I did put him in such a position that if he killed me I would know he was anti-town, and I could have used that to the town's advantage.

shlin28
03-02-2009, 21:42
...Opening Database...
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Subject: John Shlin
Age: 28
Gender: Male
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 224lbs

Subject Status: Captured ECD Marine
Psychological Report: Loyal Member of the ECD (Pro-Town). Due to security risks, access is denied to your psychological profile during the current time. We are sorry for any inconvenience. Please ask your Superior Officer if you need any help.
Access Privileges: Access Denied. All non-vital personnel have had their security level reduced to minimum for the current duration. Please ask your Superior Officer if you need any help.

Please Submit all Questions via Query to the Main Host Computer.and then I got owned by Lust:


...you embrace her gently, pulling her into bed with you, slowly peeling of her uniform. Your mind burns with passion and lust as you hold tightly onto her - she is no longer a want to you, she is a need! For all of the night, you are locked in a loving, lustful dance with her, and as the lights begin to kick back on, you both hold onto each other gently, and utterly exhausted.

You drift off for only a little bit, but when you awake, she is gone. You panic - you need her, where has she gone! You begin tearing up your room in a mad frenzy searching for her. Deep in your mind, however, you feel her reassuring touch, and relax, and resume behaving normally. She speaks into your mind with a tender voice oozing honey.

"I need you to do something for me, love...I need you to do whatever I say...for me..."

You nod and think 'anything for you'...

You are now a puppet under the Nephilim "Lust"'s control - your are forever trapped in constant need of her or you will go insane, and the link lasts until you die. In the even she would be killed at night, you will protect her. She also decides on how you will vote as well - I will send you PM's from Lust detailing how you will vote.

You are still town however, and still count towards a town victory.

Since this is a secret love, you may not speak of it, since she is yours, all yours, no one else can have her! if you speak of her, the others may take her away from you, and you'd kill yourself then! (InstaWog if you speak of your condition)I have to vote for Chaotix in the following day phase.

and then I got killed :wall:

Good game while it lasted!

CountArach
03-02-2009, 21:47
I WAS THE FINAL NEPHILIM!!!


...Opening Database...
...Retrieving Personal Data files...
...Displaying Bio and Vital Statistics...

Subject: Lyon Ashcroft, the Nephilim "Deceit"
Age: 66 (appears 28)
Gender: Male
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 140lbs

Subject Status: Presumed dead Lead Scientist of the ECD
Psychological Report: Known as the Nephilim "Deceit" (Mafia). Lyon Ashcroft was once the Solar System's most renowned scientist, having lead the crusade to stamp out fundamentalism and it's opposition to his life saving cybernetics and genetics research. Lyon's greatest achievement was the "Cronus", a retrovirus that enabled terraforming of an entire planet, and retro-engineering the colonists, in a mere pittance of the time it would have required with conventional methods.

However, Lyon was soon fated to a terrible disaster - his twin brother had become terribly ill, and seeking a cure, Lyon placed his brother in cyro to keep him alive. But when Lyon was forced to disclose hsi brothers genetic record, the ECD discovered that both of them contained the genetic sequence for psionic abilities. Armed troops stormed Lyon's lab, and when Lyon resisted, they opened fire, mortally wounding him, and made off with his frozen brother.

The whole incident was covered up, and Lyon's death was blamed on a terrorist attack. However, no body was ever found, and recent reports indicate he may yet live on. He is to be considered highly dangerous, if any indication of the extent of his brothers abilities are to compare to him.
Psionic Abilities: Lyon Ashcroft's powers had laid dormant, but a deal with the devil so to speak spared him from both his inevitable death, and gained him tremendous power. During the night, Lyon may select one subject, and for that night, the results of that subjects ability are reversed.

Lyon's abilities also allows him to conceal his true nature, and evade others abilities. Any investigation will return a negative result (not guilty/not active), and he is immune to all other night abilities.

The sheer power of Lyon means his abilities are not limited by Location.

Please Submit all Questions via Query to the Main Host Computer.

Quicktopic for us:
http://www.quicktopic.com/42/H/vNXqGGLAsbv

This last night phase I was allowed to kill two people:

Times have turned desperate - however, all goes according to plan. Time to sow some confusion.

You now lose your ability to kill once per night at your current location, and can now kill twice per night without your target being required at your location :wink:

Other stuff can be explained at will - I shall post up other PMs later.

TheFlax
03-02-2009, 21:48
Sad that this game has been canceled. Can any of the mods shed some light as to the reasons?


YLC had an unanticipated situation which has deprived him of internet access for the indefinite future. There's no way for a game to continue when the host can't run it.


Looking at TheFlax's and Reenk's role pms, I am confused and annoyed, as I most certainly would have regretted telling Reenk my identity had the game continued.

However, by telling Reenk of my role, I did put him in such a position that if he killed me I would know he was anti-town, and I could have used that to the town's advantage.

Can I alleviate your confusion in anyway? I was actually quite surprised when RR told me you had revealed to him and you certainly gave us a lot to think about. :yes:

Reenk Roink
03-02-2009, 21:50
I WAS THE FINAL NEPHILIM!!!



Quicktopic for us:
http://www.quicktopic.com/42/H/vNXqGGLAsbv

This last night phase I was allowed to kill two people:


Other stuff can be explained at will - I shall post up other PMs later.

Oh you would be be done then. :laugh4:

The night order before the game ended:


Here is my night order:


I will scan the thoughts of CountArach tonight.

Again I had a limited poll to pick from since I decided to remain inconspicuous during this day phase. I doubt CountArach is not a townie, but I could always get lucky I guess. It seems Ichigo and Warman are even less ''active'' than I and as per the rules I think Ichigo will be WOGed soon. (4 posts in total, 1 vote on day 2, and two posts to say he's sorry he missed voting. If he doesn't show up next day to vote, he's out.)

Good going with boudica by the way. :2thumbsup:

Edit: Nevermind, you would be innocent because of your role. :laugh4:

CountArach
03-02-2009, 21:56
Edit: Nevermind, you would be innocent because of your role. :laugh4:
Haha yeah - and hence by being shown as innocent I would have a cruise to the very end of the game.

Reenk Roink
03-02-2009, 21:58
I read your guys quicktopic, good stuff! :2thumbsup:

Pretty funny how we were suspicious of Rythmic and boudica from the start and you of TheFlax and then me pretty early too.

However, we did get the upper hand easily, go Psi Corp! :laugh4:

Thermal
03-02-2009, 22:43
What i want to know is how on earth did seireikhaan get me down as a mafia?

seireikhaan
03-02-2009, 22:45
You wait until everyone else has left the Flight Deck before sliding into one of the computer consoles, intent on finding out as much as possible on a man named Marcus Adams. As you search through the files, it appears the man is quite insane. You quickly note his name down in your mind as well as his alias "Ares", and have the machine send you the full report to your room...
:shrug:

I assumed that "quite insane" was code for nephilim/nephilim influenced/vulnerable to nephilim.

LittleGrizzly
03-02-2009, 22:48
I was a simple captured marine (no power role) who was pro town

Out of interest was this whole prisnors vs captors a distraction or was that some kind of goal ??

Just curious because i was annoyed at players going for pro towners because they were a different race, Racism i say !! ~;)

Beefy187
03-02-2009, 23:57
Sorry, I never could get my head around this game..

I should reduce the number of game I take part in:wall:

naut
03-03-2009, 00:13
...Opening Database...
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...Displaying Bio and Vital Statistics...

Subject: Balthasar Royce, the Nephilim "Wrath"
Age: 22
Gender: Male
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 267lbs

Subject Status: AWOL Psi Corp Operative
Psychological Report: Known as the Nephilim "Wrath" (Mafia). Balthasar Royce was once an excellent Psychometrist for the Psi Corp, working effectively in investigations and with the victims. It was said that of all of the Psi Corp, Balthasar still truly had a heart. But it was his heart, that was his undoing.

A particularly brutal case strained Balthasar beyond his limits -not only did the perpetrator commit his actions in broad daylight and escape, but no one around bothered to help and instead stayed away. His raging emotions quickly got the better of him as he tracked the man down, resulting in the serial killer killing Balthasar's own partners, including his love Milda, in the middle of a busy open mall.

Balthasar went mad with fury and killed each person, screaming in agony and guilt, and filling each person's mind with his own pain, with the images in his head, before killing them. Balthasar is currently rogue, and must be brought to justice, for the safety of all involved.
Psionic Abilities: Balthasar was once a psychometrist, but his powers have warped and twisted as he struggled to deal with that terrible day. He know reveals a person's flaws and "evil" inside them, before brutally killing them. Once each day, Balthasar may select one person to kill, but only if that person voted for another person with 3 or more votes and was the third or higher person to vote. This is in addition to the Nephilim kill each night.

If Balthasar is the only one left, he will become extremely violent and be able to kill two people per night instead of one.

Because of the brutal nature of his ability, Balthasar must be within the same Location of his target.

Please Submit all Questions via Query to the Main Host Computer.
Thoughts? My abilities were severely hampered by the location rule.

Jolt
03-03-2009, 01:24
Teehee! I knew that the signs boudica did meant she was Mafia! I won't reveal what it was, however, since I may use it to discover she is Mafia in future games.

glyphz
03-03-2009, 07:54
:cry:

Unfortunately this game will not be opened again.

Role:bow:

...Opening Database...
...Retrieving Personal Data files...
...Displaying Bio and Vital Statistics...

Subject: Corporal Glyphz
Age: 24
Gender: Male
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 155lbs

Subject Status: Engineer aboard the JCNC Ravager
Psychological Report: Loyal Member of the JCNC (Pro-Town). Due to security risks, access is denied to your psychological profile during the current time. We are sorry for any inconvenience. Please ask your Superior Officer if you need any help.
Access Privileges: Access Denied. All non-vital personnel have had their security level reduced to minimum for the current duration. Please ask your Superior Officer if you need any help.

Please Submit all Questions via Query to the Main Host Computer.

boudica
03-03-2009, 13:59
Teehee! I knew that the signs boudica did meant she was Mafia! I won't reveal what it was, however, since I may use it to discover she is Mafia in future games.

Oh come on Jolt! What's my tell?:laugh4: I guess that fact that I rang the 'Reenktuition' bell straight form the off means it can't be all that complex... give me a break I'm new at this!:laugh4:

boudica
03-03-2009, 14:07
My Role:


...Opening Database...
...Retrieving Personal Data files...
...Displaying Bio and Vital Statistics...

Subject: Miriam Ostranovii Goebel, the Nephilim "Lust"
Age: 34
Gender: Female
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 128lbs

Subject Status: AWOL Psi Corp Operative
Psychological Report: Known as the Nephilim "Lust' (Mafia). Miriam Goebel was once a loyal member of the Psi Corp, but her husband, Edmund Goebel, was killed one day by the Director of the 6th Psi Corp when he sent Edmund on a suicide mission. Much of the case is shrouded in mystery, but Edmund at the time had supposedly been working for the investigations department of the ECD and had uncovered evidence that the Director of the 6th was embezzling funds.

Miriam was devastated by his death, especially considering she was his operator for the mission and heard him die. At the time, Miriam was also pregnant with Edmunds child, and due to the stress, went into labor and was escorted to the Hospital. The birth of her daughter was successful, however, the child almost immediately went missing, and in her grief, Miriam left her bed to find her child, seemingly lost and crazed. Her body was later found, covered in her blood, inside the Hospital elevator at the ground floor.

However, it has been confirm she has been sighted yet again, leading many to believe her stress levels induced a Nephilim transformation. This makes her an extremely dangerous and unknown entity. A mission has already been dispatched to either retrieve her her or eliminate her.
Psionic Abilities: Miriam Goebel was Telepath, however, her abilities focused exclusively on the manipulation of emotions. Miriam is capable of selecting one person, and forcing them to act to her will - her favored tactic is to have them fall in love with her. The targeted subject will protect Miriam at night, and during the day will vote however she wishes.

Because of the intimate nature of her ability, Miriam must be within the same Location of her target.

Please Submit all Questions via Query to the Main Host Computer.

First of all - big thanks to YLC for organising this one, I really enjoyed the scenario, and although I understand that this was meant to be a much larger game, featuring many different nephilim abilities, I still think that with a touch more luck mafia would have stood a very slim chance. As it happened we failed to order a kill on the first night and from the write-ups of others got really unlucky by being investigated etc. - although as I apparently had already set off the Reenktuition alarm bells, I must hold my hands up to that too I guess. That said, there was alot going against mafia survival. I think the location rules make an interesting variation, but it would become very easy for town, or affiliated roles to identify the mafia through process of quarantine due to the fact that kills needed to be made in the same location. It might have gone to the wire, but the odds were stacked against mafia.

I think i mentioned in our private chat room that it would have been hard enough to win, due to the location rules - not to mention the pretty explicit write-ups - even if we HADN'T been being hunted by another mafia faction!

So I picked shlinn to be my 'bodyguard' on night 1 and got him to vote Chaotix the next day. He was killed night 2 defending me against Reenk's attack.

I then attempted to kill Reenk on the night he attacked Rythmic/Psychonaut], and all that happened was it forced a stand off, I then found out from YLC that the only way to affect the Operative was to use our powers on him. Finding out that Seireikhaan being the detective was great: We set about using CountArach's 'deceit' ability to fool him into thinking Ares was mafia and I was relying on appearing innocent to him when he investigated me. Unfortunately I appeared to be just as guilty due to lack of information as I would have done if I'd had a big red meatball painted on my spacesuit, so - already called out by Reenk - I was forced to make up a quick fake role and joined the 'reveal' party :) I didn't expect it to work, but consider the fact that it allowed my survival for one more day to be my main achievement in the game.

So using my Lust ability on Reenk - to make him vote Khaan and stop trying to kill me :2thumbsup: - was pretty high on the agenda! I wrote my thoughts about how that went on the private chatlog. TO be honest I was a little put out that Reenk went WAY out of character to explain his voting behaviour. I'm assuming he wasn't restricted by the Lust conditions that shlinn was given by YLC ie. instant WoGing if he revealed he was under Nephilim control - is that the case Reenk?

But by that point I was already living on borrowed time and it was no great suprise to be lynched. I'm guessing that if he played his cards right that CA might have managed to survive a little longer, but I predict that even without Operatives on his back, the location rule would have finished off our chances of a mafia win anyway.

There is plenty that I feel was flawed in this variant, but plenty that worked really well, and the writing was great, so I'd be happy to discuss it further with anyone who wants to...

Anyway, thanks again to YLC - this game, along with reading through ATPG's GOlden RUle, have inspired me to try my hand at hosting a small game - and I hope your connection problems clear up soon :yes:

Sigurd
03-03-2009, 15:50
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Finding out that Seireikhaan being the detective was great: We set about using CountArach's 'deceit' ability to fool him into thinking Ares was mafia and I was relying on appearing innocent to him when he investigated me. Unfortunately I appeared to be just as guilty due to lack of information as I would have done if I'd had a big red meatball painted on my spacesuit, so - already called out by Reenk - I was forced to make up a quick fake role and joined the 'reveal' party :) I didn't expect it to work, but consider the fact that it allowed my survival for one more day to be my main achievement in the game.


:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4: @ framing Ares. Great play.

Had you opted for a Jovian or ECD vanilla role as cover in stead of the HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS sole survivor of Lost Haven, you would not have been lynched.
I would have supported you against RR.

Reenk Roink
03-03-2009, 16:53
Mortal men may live and die due to your charms Lust, but Reenkfaust only desires killing and deciet. :2thumbsup: :laugh4: :bow:

The stuff I got from YLC made it seem like I only was "agreeing" to work with you. Later I was told I must vote as you should, but nope, no WoG for the expose. :grin2:

Man, I was so badass in this role, I didn't even know I shrugged off kill attempts (it seemed like a pathetic but pretty woman just begged me to stop killing the beastie). :laugh4:

Askthepizzaguy
03-03-2009, 17:03
:cry:

Sad that YLC couldn't finish this game. He had spoken to me about it when he was building it. Had he given me all the role PMs and a sense of how to continue, I might have been able to finish hosting it for him. He asked me on several occasions to help him with his writing, and I did a little "editor" work for him (not much, though) I think I could have muddled through somehow. I skimmed the thread, and I do have to say the setup and the writeups were fantastic.

:medievalcheers: A round of drinks for our friend YLC, on me.

Thermal
03-03-2009, 20:00
My Role:



First of all - big thanks to YLC for organising this one, I really enjoyed the scenario, and although I understand that this was meant to be a much larger game, featuring many different nephilim abilities, I still think that with a touch more luck mafia would have stood a very slim chance. As it happened we failed to order a kill on the first night and from the write-ups of others got really unlucky by being investigated etc. - although as I apparently had already set off the Reenktuition alarm bells, I must hold my hands up to that too I guess. That said, there was alot going against mafia survival. I think the location rules make an interesting variation, but it would become very easy for town, or affiliated roles to identify the mafia through process of quarantine due to the fact that kills needed to be made in the same location. It might have gone to the wire, but the odds were stacked against mafia.

I think i mentioned in our private chat room that it would have been hard enough to win, due to the location rules - not to mention the pretty explicit write-ups - even if we HADN'T been being hunted by another mafia faction!

So I picked shlinn to be my 'bodyguard' on night 1 and got him to vote Chaotix the next day. He was killed night 2 defending me against Reenk's attack.

I then attempted to kill Reenk on the night he attacked Rythmic/Psychonaut], and all that happened was it forced a stand off, I then found out from YLC that the only way to affect the Operative was to use our powers on him. Finding out that Seireikhaan being the detective was great: We set about using CountArach's 'deceit' ability to fool him into thinking Ares was mafia and I was relying on appearing innocent to him when he investigated me. Unfortunately I appeared to be just as guilty due to lack of information as I would have done if I'd had a big red meatball painted on my spacesuit, so - already called out by Reenk - I was forced to make up a quick fake role and joined the 'reveal' party :) I didn't expect it to work, but consider the fact that it allowed my survival for one more day to be my main achievement in the game.

So using my Lust ability on Reenk - to make him vote Khaan and stop trying to kill me :2thumbsup: - was pretty high on the agenda! I wrote my thoughts about how that went on the private chatlog. TO be honest I was a little put out that Reenk went WAY out of character to explain his voting behaviour. I'm assuming he wasn't restricted by the Lust conditions that shlinn was given by YLC ie. instant WoGing if he revealed he was under Nephilim control - is that the case Reenk?

But by that point I was already living on borrowed time and it was no great suprise to be lynched. I'm guessing that if he played his cards right that CA might have managed to survive a little longer, but I predict that even without Operatives on his back, the location rule would have finished off our chances of a mafia win anyway.

There is plenty that I feel was flawed in this variant, but plenty that worked really well, and the writing was great, so I'd be happy to discuss it further with anyone who wants to...

Anyway, thanks again to YLC - this game, along with reading through ATPG's GOlden RUle, have inspired me to try my hand at hosting a small game - and I hope your connection problems clear up soon :yes:
~:mecry: why do you all hate me!? (in high estranged voice)

boudica
03-04-2009, 10:27
~:mecry: why do you all hate me!? (in high estranged voice)

No-one picked you out specifically - we just hoped to incriminate anyone innocent that khaan investigated :2thumbsup:... 'hate' is just too strong a word :laugh4:

Sigurd
03-05-2009, 10:42
That only leaves White_eyes:D ??

Why did you throw yourself on our swords?

White_eyes:D
03-05-2009, 22:45
I had a crappy role......:juggle2: when I have a good role I tend to play well.....when I have a bad role(townie)...I tend to go for death early....:grin: In Family guy Mafia I had a role in which I could not be lynched or killed but could die by common methods(vigilante,investigation):2thumbsup: In Neverwinter Mafia I was a lynch win role.......:2thumbsup: In Godfather 3 I was a grunt and you saw how far I made it...:2thumbsup: but in YLC's Mafias......I always get crap roles.....:juggle2:

Edit: I mean you had a kick-:daisy: role on whispers in the night....who could claim to be a Pro-town/Mafia/Serial Killer role in one game:no:

Quintus.JC
03-05-2009, 22:50
I have a good role I tend to play well.....when I have a bad role(townie)...I tend to go for death early....:grin:

This statement may be held as evidence in future games. ~;)

White_eyes:D
03-05-2009, 23:08
This statement may be held as evidence in future games. ~;)

True.....but I could be Pro-town:wink:

ULC
03-12-2009, 16:17
Deeply sorry for having to end this game so soon, but allow me an explanation as to some of the rules.

The mafia were not infact outnumbered, and the Operatives were more protown then they thought. Each Power Role (and any 2 town roles) had the possibility of becoming mafia through Lust's ability. If Lust snagged a townie, at the beginning of the second night, he would have become either Judas or Brutus, a Nephilim Minor that would act as a permenant bodyguard for Lust, with a 50% of surviving the attack, the ability of performing a mafia kill (so long as there was both Brutus and Judas), and the ability to cover for Lust incase she was to be lynched (possibly requiring 3 lynching to kill her *gasp*). Power Roles each had a Nephilim Major they would turn into upon the beginning of the third night under "Lustful" influence- Grigorii -> Dread, Seraphina -> Sorrow, Markus -> Gluttony, Dmitrii (You all know him as Tvormirov from the wrightups) -> Madness. Only Reimon Leclair was immune to conversion, and thus the only person ingame that the mafia HAD to kill. :bow:

However, Guntram Faust was the one person they did NOT want to kill. Upon the fourth night, Guntram Faust would have become "The Nephilim Chaos" - He would have gained unlimited night and day kills, could use anyone elses abilities, was immune to anyone elses abilities, and could not be lynched - in essence, the game would continue at his whim only, guarenteing a mafia victory.

This was the reason for the location dependant kill - there would be so many Nephilim popping up that it would be almost impossible to discern who was what, since the mafia could have a maximum of 4 kills per night (Brutus/Judas kill, Starting mafia kill, Wrath Ability, and Recruited mafia kill).

However, Reenk and TheFlax tore it apart by basically guessing right from the beginning who was mafia, thus limiting Lusts use.

You will notice that I included 4 investigators, and for good reason - to sow dissent, and create confusion. Most games only have 1-2 at max, so 4 people claiming investigator means you would end up only believing barely half of them, and more then likely lynching your own Power Roles :laugh4:

However, this is all theory, and on paper it looked good, but it seems the Psi Corp this game was imbued with Godlike powers over probability :sick:

boudica
03-12-2009, 16:35
wow! ...and damn!

Glad to see you back anyway YLC :2thumbsup:

ULC
03-12-2009, 16:46
Indeed, I kept this knowledge from you because it would have aversely affected your play - you needed to hide, and if you knew you could convert, you would have fished for roles.

Also, to clarify for Chaotix's ability - he could turn someone into the Machaena "Kratos", the only real competitor to the raw power of Guntram - he had no vote, but he could also not be killed, and essentially acted as a bodyguard for the Good Doctor, who could then become a vanilla doctor role. Kratos was immune to all non-protown abilities, meaning even Guntram, as Chaos, could not kill him. In essence, he was the final solution, the one way, even when the town had basically lost, to pull a tie out of nowhere - this is all provided that Doctor Tvormirov had not DIED (which would have happened this game, since the Psi Corp set everyone up :laugh4:).

TheFlax
03-12-2009, 17:15
Great game YLC and thanks for hosting. :yes:

I honestly did not think that things were going very well for RR and myself, until everyone revealed at the end.

Throughout the game I was convinced that mafia could kill from any location without restriction and that only my partner (RR) was limited by locations. My early posts were thus aimed at sowing doubt about the certainty many had about the killings tied to locations. So while I got lucky in picking who I investigated, I was totally off in trying to find out who were the killers based on the killings. :clown:

Hopefully a uber Guntram would not have killed me. :laugh4:

boudica
03-12-2009, 17:30
Great game YLC and thanks for hosting. :yes:

****

Hopefully a uber Guntram would not have killed me. :laugh4:

Agreed. And uh-uh - he TOTALLY would.:laugh4:

ULC
03-12-2009, 17:32
Yes, but Uber Guntram could have also killed his own mafia partners :laugh4: Don't think your special ~;p.

I just hope this role does not go to Reenk's head >>.

Reenk Roink
03-12-2009, 18:51
Good to have you back YLC :bow: