Whats with the Arverni?

[Zues!]

In my 1.2 campaign as Rome I am at war with Carthage and the Arverni barbarians...but for some reason the Arverni outperform any other faction I have had a battle with....When I have a battle with Carthage....I can literally defend a point, and lose only about 100 I even only lost 48 men while I kill like 2,000 of them...but not with the Arverni....I have a battle with them and I take a punch...I always big battles like this, but I just want to know why they keep fighting and why they intimidate my men....could this intimidation affect the battle outcome that bad?

[Antinous]

The way their soldiers dress and paint themselves threatens your soldiers who aren't used to men like naked fanatics.

[A Very Super Market]

Check if they're fighting with lots of Gaesatae (Naked dudes). They're pretty tough to beat, even with your best troops. The other Celtic units should be easy to rout (Either encircle, or charge the back), but the Naked guys will destroy even principes. Use your Triarii to pin them down (High defense), and rain javelins into their back. Then charge, and they should rout.

I could be horribly wrong though, can you give a description of what you exactly do?

[Olaf Blackeyes]

The "barbarians have got three things going for them
1.The naked unit plethora.
2.Large a mounts of lands with good mines on them.
3.The NAKED DUDES!!!!!!!!!

[Cullhwch]

Your men are getting hacked to pieces by longswords.

[SwissBarbar]

The Arverni just RUULLLEEEEE , read my AAR - Chapter 7, then you know why they are so fearsome, hahahaaaarrrrrrrr

[Cute Wolf]

Next time, try to crush these barbarians before they bring premature dark age... :laugh4:
Or at least, you can try to bribe their army, one by one...

[Vulg]

Calvary charge, retreat, charge, retreat. Will sort the Nuddy men out. Just have to keep at it and micromanage your charges.

[mikil100]

I find they don't fair so well against a wall of pointy sticks. Tehe.

[Ca Putt]

the "barbarians" have a different fighting style. most units only have poor armor but are very skilled melee fighters, which makes them rather vunerable to cavalary charges and missile weappons.

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

the "barbarians" have a different fighting style. most units only have poor armor but are very skilled melee fighters, which makes them rather vunerable to cavalary charges and missile weappons.

Very true. Whenver I play Romani - or even other barbaroi factions fighting against other barbaroi, I stock up on missile troops. The complete lack of armor can halve their numbers before they even hit your front line, if done correctly.

As the Romani, line your infantry up in one long line, make sure your units with pila are set to "autofire", and put the entire line on "defend". Put your velites (if you use them) in another long line behind the front line infantry with a small gap so they're not throwing their javelins into the backs of your soldiers' heads. Put them on auto fire as well. Behind the velites (or the grunts if you're not using them) put your accensi, toxotai, whatever have you that can shoot far for sustained periods of time in a long stretched out line with that same gap between them and the line in front. Make sure to put them all on autofire, and if you have archers use fire arrows.

This tactic will allow you to completely decimate the enemy before they even meet your front line troops. If they have skirmishers, your grunts' high armor and shields will absorb their projectiles with minimum damage. Once the lines meet, the enemy will rout almost immediately, even the "naked guys" half the time. To speed this up, have your end units flank and envelop if your line extends beyond the enemy's, and don't hesitate to rack up the kills once they start routing with missile units attacking from their now exposed rear. Your general and any other cavalry units can do mop up duty.

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If you are a barbarian tribe fighting another barbarian tribe, the same tactic works; but you'll probably take almost as many casualties as the enemy, depending on unit composition and chevrons, etc. I like to bring a ton of archers to the fight.

Happy "Hunning" :laugh4:

[Macilrille]

Well you know elephants may wonder how the naked dudes pick up anything, but apparently they are equally scary. I usually have no trouble with them as Romans though. Using historical Triplex setup.

[Zues!]

Check if they're fighting with lots of Gaesatae (Naked dudes). They're pretty tough to beat, even with your best troops. The other Celtic units should be easy to rout (Either encircle, or charge the back), but the Naked guys will destroy even principes. Use your Triarii to pin them down (High defense), and rain javelins into their back. Then charge, and they should rout.

I could be horribly wrong though, can you give a description of what you exactly do?

When they attack me...as usual this is my army layout

1. Hesatati (misspelled)
2. Principes
3. General
4. Triarii
5. Missile

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Thats what my army sorta looks like

[A Very Super Market]

No, I meant what usually happens that causes you to lose? Which units melt away, which get caught up, etc.

[Macilrille]

It is all about using the right battlecry:idea2:


I just got a Heroic Victory against a Bunch of nudists with a less then good Roman army, there were lots of FM though, so while the rest were crap I used these to circle and kill their commander. Then while pinning naked dudes + spearmen with my crappy and outnumbered Roarii, Leves and Hastati I charged them from behind shouting the infamous battlecry, which I shall not repeat, but which is scary if you are naked with a horse galloping up behind you. Most of them routed on contact despite outnumbering me 2 x 1.

[Zues!]

No, I meant what usually happens that causes you to lose? Which units melt away, which get caught up, etc.

I dont lose it just takes WAY too many of my men to destroy their army

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

No, I meant what usually happens that causes you to lose? Which units melt away, which get caught up, etc.


'Lo.....ose' ? What does this word mean?

I believe as Olaf Blackeyes has in his Signature, "It's the AI....how do you NOT win?"