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ClaymanVTW
02-01-2009, 01:36
sorry, if this has already been asked-i cant find a search box.....

But me, i cant descide!

probobly somthing like

RTI in the USA
GB or France
Poland Lithuania Commonwealth or Russia or Ottomans or Mughal/Marathas


see there are alot of ties for me :sweatdrop:

its so hard to choose! :wall:

can you?

Sir Beane
02-01-2009, 01:58
It's been asked before, but not for a while. :2thumbsup:

Personally I am going to play as Britian first. Mostly because of patriotic pride and a passion for naval warfare. :beam:

After that I'll have a go playing as every faction, and I mean every faction, including the oens that will have to be unlocked via modding the files.

hoom
02-01-2009, 02:02
Depends a bit on what the starting positions look like.
I kinda like to have a relatively strategically secure little state to start with.
Quite keen to get some naval action though.

ClaymanVTW
02-01-2009, 02:07
same here, thats partly why im looking forward to GB and france.

GB-geographical sheild, alot of chances for naval warfare.

France-Alot of chances for land combat, challenging but fun to hold all fronts.

knoddy
02-01-2009, 02:10
After that I'll have a go playing as every faction, and I mean every faction, including the oens that will have to be unlocked via modding the files.

I finished the original Medieval with every possible faction including modded ones, fun fun, now that was replayability. :D

as for me i would like to play something different like the indian factions or the ottomans but i will probs end up playing GB for the naval combat that they should get early on and sort of as a learnin curve.

Incongruous
02-01-2009, 02:15
Austria, they should have the most interesting unit roster, the Hapsburgs also rule over a massive amount of land from Germany to the Balkans, meaning it will be a hard game, allowing me to fight many varied enemies from the Turks to the Prussians.

It will also allow me to turn Austria into a truly global empire, taking to the sea from my naval bases in newly reclaimed Spain!

hoom
02-01-2009, 02:20
GB-geographical sheild, alot of chances for naval warfare.

France-Alot of chances for land combat, challenging but fun to hold all fronts.

But in the ETW time period GB & France have substantial & not very secure offshore colonies.
I think I like the idea of playing Dutch perhaps (I think they are much declined from their colonial peak in this period?)
Maybe Spain with most of her colonies relatively safe off the map in the South American trade theatre?

ClaymanVTW
02-01-2009, 02:20
oh yeah i forgot about austria. They seem REALLY fun too!

Don Jacopo Caldora
02-01-2009, 04:51
Going to play first as Britain,

But as soon as I can I will be playing with the United States. About time I get to play my own country in a total war game. :laugh4:

As far as other countries, depending if it is playable or I have to find a mod to play, I plan a turn or two as Spain, an Italian faction, and Prussia. Not sure which to go with after that.

Familyguy1
02-01-2009, 05:27
I might go exotic, and play as one of the Native American factions or one of the Indian factions!, Ill unit India subcontinent, save it. The play in North America and save that, then start in Europe/ME etc.

I really want to play as anyone really I dont care.

Polemists
02-01-2009, 05:41
Yes i'm pretty sure this was asked but we are all bored so why not reanswer :laugh4:


So hmm....depends how you define play...


I do plan to boost up the game first with the 3 part tutorial, just to see what all the hub bub is about and learn the game (which supposedly has lots of differences from past tw games)

I probably though will not play the American faction beyond the last tutorial, I will probably just click save and leave it for later.

Then i'll boost up and play grand campaign as Austria (if playable) Prussia if Austria is not playable.

:2thumbsup:

lenin96
02-01-2009, 06:49
Factions I'm going to play: Russia, Crimean Tartars, Iran, Hanover (family descends from there), a native American faction and all of the obscure factions, I have thing about all obscure factions and the ones that are only playable through modding.

Edit:Like Sir Beane said he will, I will play every faction eventualy.

pevergreen
02-01-2009, 07:22
Whichever one had those awesome rocket launcher thingys in the multiplayer trailer.

Fondor_Yards
02-01-2009, 07:39
Dunno, probably Prussia or the Ottomans.

Sheogorath
02-01-2009, 08:11
The Duchy of Courland, of course :gring:

Ishmael
02-01-2009, 09:03
The United Provinces, just to get my bearings (from what ive seen they had a fairly good economy, and i just love having hundreds of thousands of dollars/florins/denarii in the bank). After that, probably the Ottaman Empire, because they're Asian, off to one side a bit, and are just generally cool.

GMaximus
02-01-2009, 11:26
I've got my top 10 mostly done.

1) Spain
2) Prussia and Sweden (at the same time, just can't decide which I want more)
3) Empire of Fez and Morocco
4) Marathas
5) Commonwealth of Poland-Lithuania
6) France
7) Sefevid Persia
8) Ottoman Empire
9) Mughals
10) Crimean Khanate/Barbary States (yet to decide which)

After that I'll probably start doing crazy relocation campaigns, like creating a pirate state in the Caribbean with the United Netherlands or something like that.

Monk
02-01-2009, 11:28
I'm still going with Russia!

There's still nothing more interesting to me than sweeping over Europe like a tidal wave and establishing a new Russian Republic! :beam:

Wausser
02-01-2009, 12:12
United Provinces ofcourse :2thumbsup:


As second, maybe GB or Austria

Polemists
02-01-2009, 12:51
Oh I guess if we are doing order.

1. Tutorial (Americas)

Because I want to learn the game.

2. Prussia (austria)

Calvary focus, I want cool calvary.

3. France

Naval Focus, something new.

4. India or Ottomans

Just for something drastically different.

5. Poland-Lithuania or Sweden

For some fun smaller nations.


After that it will be random. :yes:

ClaymanVTW
02-01-2009, 13:12
It was confirmed the americans are in the tutuorial??? BTW-the RtI is not a tutorial, it is a xcompletly seperate thing, that does give hints ans such while playing.

Sir Beane
02-01-2009, 13:30
It was confirmed the americans are in the tutuorial??? BTW-the RtI is not a tutorial, it is a xcompletly seperate thing, that does give hints ans such while playing.

The first part of the Road to Independance pretty much will be a tutorial. It's true that the RTI campaign isn't just a tutorial however. And yes it has been confirmed you play as the US. The first chapter is you playing as the British colonising the new world. The second is Britian vs. France and the Native American tribes. In the third chapter you play as the US colonists and attempt to throw out the British.

ClaymanVTW
02-01-2009, 13:44
I know who you play as, but still it only acts as one, yeah the 1st chapter pretty much is but i still think there is a seperate campaign tutorial.

Polemists
02-01-2009, 13:47
The first part of the Road to Independance pretty much will be a tutorial. It's true that the RTI campaign isn't just a tutorial however. And yes it has been confirmed you play as the US. The first chapter is you playing as the British colonising the new world. The second is Britian vs. France and the Native American tribes. In the third chapter you play as the US colonists and attempt to throw out the British.

Yes I believe this is confirmed to act in place of the tutorial,

what is not yet confirmed is if I will have a attractive female blond advisor yet again:laugh4:

Quintus.JC
02-01-2009, 14:06
:unitedkingdom:

Sir Beane
02-01-2009, 14:06
Yes I believe this is confirmed to act in place of the tutorial,

what is not yet confirmed is if I will have a attractive female blond advisor yet again:laugh4:

We can only hope. :laugh4: Personally I would like a different advisor for each faction you play as, just for some added variety.

Polemists
02-01-2009, 14:09
We can only hope. Personally I would like a different advisor for each faction you play as, just for some added variety.

Long as they are the cute female ones, I couldn't stand that marcus guy

"Seige equipment is automatically deployed to you when you start a battle."


Really? I thought I had to order my men to go chop lumber...so that's what those gaint rams next to my men are. Thanks alot :laugh4:

ClaymanVTW
02-01-2009, 14:14
Rams? i thought they were hot dog stands...hey does this meen those giant meat ball shooters arnt really meat ball shooters?

General SupaCrunk
02-01-2009, 19:55
Im going with Ottomans first , then France or Poland-Lithuania or some Native American civ.

Lusitani
02-01-2009, 21:04
Portugal!!!! :smash:

Ibn-Khaldun
02-01-2009, 22:32
My first faction would be Sweden. :sweden:
I will try to win the Great Northern War!

After that probably GBR or France.

Meneldil
02-02-2009, 01:11
I'll likely start out as France, or as the UK if we can switch to the 13 colonies midway through the game. In any case, I'll kick the British and their bad food out of the Americas ! :2thumbsup:

ClaymanVTW
02-02-2009, 01:21
sorry but we can not play as america if it immerges, that's what the RtI is for.

Meneldil
02-02-2009, 01:25
Some mods made it possible to play with the Mongols/Timurids with vanilla M2TW without changing the starting date. I don't really see why CA wouldn't add such a feature, knowing that a large chunk of american customers would enjoy to play the 13 colonies in a Grand Campaign.

ClaymanVTW
02-02-2009, 03:04
Its allready been confirmed that no immerging factions (IE-USA) will be playable in the GC. Again thats what the RtI is for, and the 4th chapter the "test of time" will be a grand campaign starting from 1783.

Megas Methuselah
02-02-2009, 03:13
I will establish a great colonial empire as the Chippewa! :yes:

bloodshed
02-02-2009, 03:28
That sucks that you cant play as the 13 colonies in the grand campaign. Where does it say that you cant play as the immerging factions/ 13 colonies? I was just wondering. Also would it be possible to mod it so you could play as the 13 colonies in the GC. No disrespect to the RtI but I just dont want to fight against the British and some native Americans and maybe some mercs that the British have.

ClaymanVTW
02-02-2009, 03:38
As it is time for bed for me now i cant look up the article, but if i remember correctly it said somthing about u being able to play it in the GC, anfter u beat the RtI, and also the 4th chapter the "Test of Time" is just that itself, a grand campaign with all factions starting from 1783.

btw check these forums out guys. http://shoguntotalwar.yuku.com/directory.

bloodshed
02-02-2009, 03:47
So after you beat RtI it takes you to the GC so you can play as them right away?

Familyguy1
02-02-2009, 05:01
As it is time for bed for me now i cant look up the article, but if i remember correctly it said somthing about u being able to play it in the GC, anfter u beat the RtI, and also the 4th chapter the "Test of Time" is just that itself, a grand campaign with all factions starting from 1783.

btw check these forums out guys. http://shoguntotalwar.yuku.com/directory.

Couldnt we just mod them in?

Fisherking
02-02-2009, 09:43
I don’t know how much things have changed since the last time I answered this question?

At the time I said I was playing RTI first and then would try Sweden. I am not ruling that out but ships are so much fun. I will have to take that into consideration when I make up my mind. Sweden doesn’t have the need for ships that some have and the need can out-strip the desire in such cases.

I may go for someone a bit easier to play and who has a good navy from the start…if any such faction exists. We know how starting forces can be a pittance of what it should be.

Later on, much later on I fear, it would be so much fun to turn Bavaria into a world power with a mighty navy.

:laugh4::yes::laugh4::yes::2thumbsup:

Phog_of_War
02-02-2009, 10:04
As much as I want to play as the 13 Colonies (yeah i know they are in the tutorial, but have they been confirmed in the Campaign at the start?) , honestly I will probably start as Spain. It is the safest starting position in the map and, there should be more than enough resources in the Iberian Pensula to exploit. And it has been mentioned before but most of Colonial Spain is in South America and fairly isolated. IMO, (depending on the unit roster) Spain is a great and for the most part, safe, first pick.

Dead Guy
02-02-2009, 10:46
Sweden :p

I just can't decide where to go first. Even if you decide to whoop the russians for a while, it seems contraproductive to go further on into the mainland. Perhaps I'll take the baltic shoreline and then push for peace. I think my first priority will be to secure the baltic, then we'll see who is messing with me at the time.

Ibn-Khaldun
02-02-2009, 11:35
Well, I think 13 Colonies will not emerge all the time. I think it needs some conditions (bad governors etc) and then they will emerge. So, if I as UK, manage to keep everything in order in America then there is no need for the Colonies to revolt, right?

Polemists
02-02-2009, 11:50
To clear up the total war confusion on the 13 colonies.

There are TWO ways to play the 13 colonies.

Option ONE : Is you can play the Road to Independence Campaign, and when it ends you are in the grand campaign as the 13 colonies. Just as if you would have chosen them as a faction.


Option TWO: If you have unrest your faction will splinter, you can choose to join the rebels, or the loyalists. In the case of England, at sometime, the rebels will be the 13 colonies. You can choose to join them, and play as them from then on. So far, they are the only emergent faction that it is confirmed you can play (Example: No one has said if you can play as greece or ireland when they emerge.)

There are two types of Revolt, Capital revolts, which institute regime change if you lose, and emergent faction revolts. It is my best guess that if there is a rebellion in one of your colonies then it becomes a emergent faction, if it happens in your province, then it is a regieme change. Though no one knows for sure.


So for example if you have unrest in 13 colonies, they become the 13 colonies faction and go independent, where as if you have unrest in London, there is a revolt to push you closer to a republic.



No one is 100% sure

but we will be more sure

once we have

a

DEMO

lenin96
02-02-2009, 12:20
I agree Polemists, even if we can't play as Ireland or Scotland they should be able to be modded to be playable if the Americans are in the GC.

pevergreen
02-02-2009, 13:46
I know who you play as, but still it only acts as one, yeah the 1st chapter pretty much is but i still think there is a seperate campaign tutorial.
As noted, incorrect.

sorry but we can not play as america if it immerges, that's what the RtI is for.


Its allready been confirmed that no immerging factions (IE-USA) will be playable in the GC. Again thats what the RtI is for, and the 4th chapter the "test of time" will be a grand campaign starting from 1783.
As noted below, both incorrect.

Option TWO: If you have unrest your faction will splinter, you can choose to join the rebels, or the loyalists. In the case of England, at sometime, the rebels will be the 13 colonies. You can choose to join them, and play as them from then on. So far, they are the only emergent faction that it is confirmed you can play (Example: No one has said if you can play as greece or ireland when they emerge.)

Correct, confirmed and ready to rumble.

For my first relocation campaign. I'm thinking...Mughals to America.

Sir Beane
02-02-2009, 14:00
For my first relocation campaign. I'm thinking...Mughals to America.

I'm going to attempt to relocate Russia to somewhere like the Canary Islands or the Bahamas.

How would the faction famous for relying on the Winter and it's inexhaustible manpower fare on a tiny tropical island chain? I don't know, but I inted to find out! :2thumbsup:

Polemists
02-02-2009, 14:00
Yea you guys are welcome to correct me but if you find the IGN article, I believe it states that when England revolts there is a chance the 13 colonies may form, and you DO have the option to either continue playing as England or to start playing as the 13 colonies in the grand campaign.

This all depends on unrest though, as other players have pointed out. If you do want to play as america quickly it is best to start unrest early, because if you wait until 1770's the game's going to be nearing it's end by time you form.

Like I said,

The mechanics of revolts are not all that concreate but my best guess still remains that if a colony rebels, it becomes a emergent factions, aka: Greece, Ireland, etc. This is similiar to rebels in Rome given names, Gladiator Uprising , etc.

If your own faction revolts, then it pushes regieme change, and then you can choose to side with loyalist or rebels.


13 colonies is only known emergent faction you can play.


Thus is my knowledge thus far, just restating the facts from earlier, I believe this is all in the summary thread.


Of course it's all speculation until we get our hands on.


THE


DEMO

Sir Beane
02-02-2009, 14:05
Yea you guys are welcome to correct me but if you find the IGN article, I believe it states that when England revolts there is a chance the 13 colonies may form, and you DO have the option to either continue playing as England or to start playing as the 13 colonies in the grand campaign.

This all depends on unrest though, as other players have pointed out. If you do want to play as america quickly it is best to start unrest early, because if you wait until 1770's the game's going to be nearing it's end by time you form.

Like I said,

The mechanics of revolts are not all that concreate but my best guess still remains that if a colony rebels, it becomes a emergent factions, aka: Greece, Ireland, etc. This is similiar to rebels in Rome given names, Gladiator Uprising , etc.

If your own faction revolts, then it pushes regieme change, and then you can choose to side with loyalist or rebels.


13 colonies is only known emergent faction you can play.


Thus is my knowledge thus far, just restating the facts from earlier, I believe this is all in the summary thread.


Of course it's all speculation until we get our hands on.


THE


DEMO


It will probably still be speculation even after we see a demo, since CA aren't in the habit of including a portion of the campaign map with their demos. :tongue:

Polemists
02-02-2009, 14:13
Way to crush my dreams beanie.


Actually no one knows about the demo, because so far our demos have always included either tutorial bits or historical battles, yet rumor is ETW has no historical battles.

Yet CA has been bound determined thus far to not give players just a custom battle in the demo.

So we may see something like part 1 of RTI you never know.



That said, whowever is in the DEMO

is who I will be playing first :laugh4:

Sir Beane
02-02-2009, 14:15
Way to crush my dreams beanie.


Actually no one knows about the demo, because so far our demos have always included either tutorial bits or historical battles, yet rumor is ETW has no historical battles.

Yet CA has been bound determined thus far to not give players just a custom battle in the demo.

So we may see something like part 1 of RTI you never know.



That said, whowever is in the DEMO

is who I will be playing first :laugh4:

Actually I think you might be on to something with the idea they will include part of the RTI campaign.

Maybe we will see the first part of the third chapter, the Battle of Bunker Hill?

Polemists
02-02-2009, 14:20
Assuming the the Battle of Bunker Hill?

Is basically the bare bone basics of defending, attacking, and etc on the battle map I don't see why not. I'd be similiar to the shogun tutorial in the Shogun Demo (yes folks, I go that far back in my demo crazes).

Obviously we'd be playing 13 colonies against the british, and it may not be moddable as it's scripted.

Still I am interested to see the minutemen units against the cannons of england.:juggle2:

ainamacil
02-02-2009, 15:47
It's gotta be the 13 Colonies. I've been an England player through two Medievals (the only campaign I've played where England was an option and I didn't play them the first time through was the Britannia Campaign, where I conquered all with the Green fist of my Irish forefathers), but now it's time to play the armies of my own country.

Huzzah!

bloodshed
02-02-2009, 17:31
Has it been confirmed that the only way you could play as the 13 colonies in the GC is by a revolt. Or when you beat the RtI it takes you to the campaign? The Treaty of Paris was signed in 1783 isnt the game only from 1700-1799 so when you finish RtI you would only have like 30 something turns to conquer everything your suppose to? Im just confused lol.

Fisherking
02-02-2009, 18:07
Has it been confirmed that the only way you could play as the 13 colonies in the GC is by a revolt. Or when you beat the RtI it takes you to the campaign? The Treaty of Paris was signed in 1783 isnt the game only from 1700-1799 so when you finish RtI you would only have like 30 something turns to conquer everything your suppose to? Im just confused lol.

From what is known that is just the way it is.

Disappointing I know for some of us. That extra 20 years would have be great. But as it stands I just don’t see anyone winning as the US unless you can get them to revolt by 1720 or so.

lobosrul
02-02-2009, 18:58
It sure seems to me like they're planning on a Napoleonic/War of 1812 expansion if the game is really going to be cut off at 1799.

I'm planning on play RTI first as a sort of advanced tutorial, then spend the bulk of my playing time on England like I always do. Then probably France, Russia and then maybe Sweden or Austria.

ArtillerySmoke
02-02-2009, 20:20
Probably France. Probably...I need to see the final unit rosters first.

KozaK13
02-02-2009, 20:37
Comon Prussia! A united Germany is a strong Germany...

And wow the amount of people who still ask about the playability of the 13 colonies despite the number of times it has been answered is staggering.

bscssc
02-02-2009, 20:59
Probably RTI to start, then UP (Dutch). I'd like to start colonizing India right away, and the UP control Sri Lanka.

ClaymanVTW
02-02-2009, 22:29
As noted, incorrect.



As noted below, both incorrect.


Correct, confirmed and ready to rumble.

For my first relocation campaign. I'm thinking...Mughals to America.

mine were correct but his second option wasnt even register and aks here.

http://shoguntotalwar.yuku.com/reply/559526#reply-559526

the only way we can join the revolutionists is if it happens in the capital.

Sir Beane
02-02-2009, 23:14
mine were correct but his second option wasnt even register and aks here.

http://shoguntotalwar.yuku.com/reply/559526#reply-559526

the only way we can join the revolutionists is if it happens in the capital.

I'm not saying you are wong. But why exactly do you think that they know more than we do? As far as I know CA have not said you can play as the US if they rebel, but they also have not said that you can't. When no information has been presented how can one side or the other be correct? It's just opinion vs. opinion until the game comes out.

If you do have solid information from CA saying that you can't play as the US when they rebel then please copy it and post it here or post up a link. I doubt anyone wants to go through the trouble of signing up with that forum just to ask one question.

ClaymanVTW
02-03-2009, 01:52
Im not saying that you guys know less the point i want to get at now is how much these threads differ from them. But we have seen articles that point it out, currently i must go now though-but i will try to find it later :P

Sir Beane
02-03-2009, 02:00
Im not saying that you guys know less the point i want to get at now is how much these threads differ from them. But we have seen articles that point it out, currently i must go now though-but i will try to find it later :P

Good good. :2thumbsup: If you can find it post it up and I'll edit the Summary thread. Personally I have no great wish to play as the US in the main campaign as one of the 12 factions. I would rather Portugal was made playable instead.

It doesn't really matter much anyway, since mods will quickly be out that make the US playable if it isn't. :laugh4:

Discoman
02-03-2009, 02:14
Well I guess CA can just clear it up right now..... *waits several minutes* :daisy: they missed their cue. :clown:

I want to play as France and Britain, two great nations of the period. I like Britain mainly because I want to play as Arthur Wellesley.

Megas Methuselah
02-03-2009, 04:16
Has it been confirmed that the only way you could play as the 13 colonies in the GC is by a revolt. Or when you beat the RtI it takes you to the campaign? The Treaty of Paris was signed in 1783 isnt the game only from 1700-1799 so when you finish RtI you would only have like 30 something turns to conquer everything your suppose to? Im just confused lol.


Not my concern. We can play past the "end" date. Bad news for blitzers, maybe. But if you play a game like Megas Methuselah does, and try to properly run an empire rather than fight unrealistic, world-conquering superwars, this shouldn't be a concern.

Polemists
02-03-2009, 05:22
Yes, there's no way to 100% know, but I do recall the ign article...can't remeber which one, mentioned something about if 13 colonies rebelled you could play as them, which led to several spin off threads.


That said, who knows,

The only true way to know of course

is

a


DEMO

Ituralde
02-03-2009, 18:39
Man, the new faction preview for Austria has me really psyched. They were quite low on my list, which went along the lines of Sweden, Prussia, Great Britain, something, something, Austria, but now they're back on top. The opportunities are just endless and someone has to deal with those pesky Ottomans! :wink3:

Noir
02-03-2009, 18:45
france russia and prussia.

pevergreen
02-04-2009, 02:00
Never Fear. Within 10 minutes of me installing the game, I will have a mini fix out to make it longer, and unlock every faction.

Ha ha!

Sir Beane
02-04-2009, 02:04
Never Fear. Within 10 minutes of me installing the game, I will have a mini fix out to make it longer, and unlock every faction.

Ha ha!

Huzzah for mods! Hip hip hurrah!

Megas Methuselah
02-04-2009, 02:45
Huzzah! Now get to it, pever! :whip:

Martok
02-05-2009, 06:28
Upon further reflection, I believe I'll go through the RTI tutorial/campaign first. (I don't intend to keep playing as the U.S. in the 4th Episode/Grand Campaign, however.)

After that, however, I'm not sure. I'd originally intended to play as the British, but I'm almost leaning more towards France or Sweden now as my official "first" faction. After that, I would say Sweden, Prussia, and the Ottomans round out my top five.



I know who you play as, but still it only acts as one, yeah the 1st chapter pretty much is but i still think there is a seperate campaign tutorial.
As has been previously pointed out, this is incorrect. It's been stated in numerous articles the RTI campaign is designed in part to ease new/rookie Total War players into the game.

Polemists
02-05-2009, 06:36
Yep martok is on it, while RTI is a 3 part scripted epic campaign of goodness. It is in very esssence, a long elaborate tutorial.

For instance, you cannot colonize in it, you can't expand much in it.

Think of it as the Julii tutorial but expanded.

I mean you will start out with the very bare bone basics, then each part they add something new, diplomacy, naval battles, ruling a empire, etc.

Of course to truly see this all in action

I wish we had

a

DEMO

Sir Beane
02-05-2009, 12:39
Yep martok is on it, while RTI is a 3 part scripted epic campaign of goodness. It is in very esssence, a long elaborate tutorial.

For instance, you cannot colonize in it, you can't expand much in it.

Think of it as the Julii tutorial but expanded.

I mean you will start out with the very bare bone basics, then each part they add something new, diplomacy, naval battles, ruling a empire, etc.

Of course to truly see this all in action

I wish we had

a

DEMO

You'll be lucky if the RTI campaign is included in the demo :tongue:. Although it might be interesting if that was the case.

USS Providence 1972
02-06-2009, 05:06
Being Scotch-Irish I will probably start with Great Britain although Sweden is tempting.

Durango
02-06-2009, 16:23
Being Scotch-Irish I will probably start with Great Britain although Sweden is tempting.

Cool, I would also like to start with your country/countries, but that is not possible as far as I know. Especially Ireland with its nice isolation and access to the sea has always appealed to me. Not to mention the Scottish, with their bagpipes on the battlefields :beam:

If you're going to play Sweden, I recommend NOT marching towards Moscow in the winter. Especially if you are facing a Russian king whose name starts with P and the year is between 1708 and 1710... otherwise the hardy "Indelta" soldiers of Sweden should do just fine. Good luck.

Merak
02-06-2009, 17:08
if it is not to hard i will play sweden if it is then france, and kick the royal british behind

Sir Beane
02-06-2009, 18:36
Cool, I would also like to start with your country/countries, but that is not possible as far as I know. Especially Ireland with its nice isolation and access to the sea has always appealed to me. Not to mention the Scottish, with their bagpipes on the battlefields :beam:

If you're going to play Sweden, I recommend NOT marching towards Moscow in the winter. Especially if you are facing a Russian king whose name starts with P and the year is between 1708 and 1710... otherwise the hardy "Indelta" soldiers of Sweden should do just fine. Good luck.

Scotland is definitely in game as an emergent faction. I imagine that mods will make them playable pretty quickly. No one is sure about Ireland, but they seem a likely candidate for an emergent faction. :2thumbsup:

Highland Clansmen are in game as a unit, and bagpipers have been confirmed. :beam:

USS Providence 1972
02-07-2009, 04:41
Cool, I would also like to start with your country/countries, but that is not possible as far as I know. Especially Ireland with its nice isolation and access to the sea has always appealed to me. Not to mention the Scottish, with their bagpipes on the battlefields :beam:

If you're going to play Sweden, I recommend NOT marching towards Moscow in the winter. Especially if you are facing a Russian king whose name starts with P and the year is between 1708 and 1710... otherwise the hardy "Indelta" soldiers of Sweden should do just fine. Good luck.

I imagine Great Britain will include some Scottish units, not sure about the Irish. That's why I was thinking Great Britain.

With Sweden I would probably leave Russia alone and go after easier targets at least in the beginning. I don't know if the cost of attacking Russia would be worth the benefit. Maybe take some of the Western area as a buffer zone.

One thing I wonder about is whether the AI is improved so that opposing countries will load armies onto transport ships and land them on your territory. That was lacking in RTW.

Polemists
02-07-2009, 06:40
I don't think I'll play any of the unlockable factions, I just enjoy the speeches and voices to much to play a faction where they are limited at best or stolen from another faction at worst.


I wonder though, if all playable factions are unlockable right off the bat, if any rewards will be given when you beat the grand campaign.

As the reward used to be you could unlock more factions.

Hidden maps, units, new starting leader, i dunno, but i'd be nice to have some reward for your faction when you win.

Sir Beane
02-07-2009, 13:03
I don't think I'll play any of the unlockable factions, I just enjoy the speeches and voices to much to play a faction where they are limited at best or stolen from another faction at worst.


I wonder though, if all playable factions are unlockable right off the bat, if any rewards will be given when you beat the grand campaign.

As the reward used to be you could unlock more factions.

Hidden maps, units, new starting leader, i dunno, but i'd be nice to have some reward for your faction when you win.

Some of the non-playable factions will probably have their own voices, especially some of the more unique factions such as the Native Americans and the Indians.

I've always though that TW games need to add in rewards for completing the campaign. It would definitely add even geater replay value.

New units, new colours, a fancy flag, a special building, a new resource, larger starting armies. Any of those would be good rewards for winning as a faction. And it might persuade me to play as every faction if I could unlock something really interesting by playing as them.

Even a decent ending cinematic would be nice. Shogun had by far the best ending of any TW game, and that's saying something really. It was still pretty cool seeing a statue of your leader in modern Japan though.

Polemists
02-07-2009, 13:06
Yes, I think Barbarian Invasion wasn't bad because at least each faction had it's own little execerpt.

Though Rome sucked, when I won as gaul and got a Briton ending it was sad :(...my guys weren't blue...why did they have to be in the cinematic...


MTW2 was horrid if you didn't play as one of the main five, France, England, HRE, Venice, Spain, you got nothing. No matter who you played it was the same silly movie.

I think some rewards would good, something to expand the faction a little so next time you play it's a slightly different experience.

All those ideas sound good.

General SupaCrunk
02-07-2009, 21:23
Some of the non-playable factions will probably have their own voices, especially some of the more unique factions such as the Native Americans and the Indians.

I've always though that TW games need to add in rewards for completing the campaign. It would definitely add even geater replay value.

New units, new colours, a fancy flag, a special building, a new resource, larger starting armies. Any of those would be good rewards for winning as a faction. And it might persuade me to play as every faction if I could unlock something really interesting by playing as them.

Even a decent ending cinematic would be nice. Shogun had by far the best ending of any TW game, and that's saying something really. It was still pretty cool seeing a statue of your leader in modern Japan though.

Ireland also is confirmed by CA and also emerging faction in India it was...Punjab!

Megas Methuselah
02-07-2009, 23:53
Not playable, though.

Polemists
02-08-2009, 06:54
Yes, it is assumed that the other emergent factions who are not the 13 colonies are not playable.

As for the last two playable factions, no one really knows who they will be. Most guesses are a india faction and another faction.

We will probably here another faction next week as they are running out of days at this point. :)

Colovion
02-09-2009, 08:48
Prussia

Pinxit
02-09-2009, 12:41
Yes, I think Barbarian Invasion wasn't bad because at least each faction had it's own little execerpt.

Though Rome sucked, when I won as gaul and got a Briton ending it was sad :(...my guys weren't blue...why did they have to be in the cinematic...


MTW2 was horrid if you didn't play as one of the main five, France, England, HRE, Venice, Spain, you got nothing. No matter who you played it was the same silly movie.

I think some rewards would good, something to expand the faction a little so next time you play it's a slightly different experience.

All those ideas sound good.

Kind of like Age of Empires, where you rise in experience and gain benefits from it. I dont think I like that idea.

BUT. What I really want is statistics. Thats all the reward I need. I want to know everything about my faction at the end. How many kills, battles won vs lost, units killed vs lost, etc. Best commander, best income, admiral, etc. Evrrrrything.

:viking:

IlDuce
02-09-2009, 12:58
GB, and I'll wipe out the French no matter how much it might ruin me and my coffers. It's a thing of principle and tradition. That being said I think Britain has a rivalry of sorts with pretty much everyone in the western world.

Sir Beane
02-09-2009, 13:02
Kind of like Age of Empires, where you rise in experience and gain benefits from it. I dont think I like that idea.

BUT. What I really want is statistics. Thats all the reward I need. I want to know everything about my faction at the end. How many kills, battles won vs lost, units killed vs lost, etc. Best commander, best income, admiral, etc. Evrrrrything.

:viking:

I'd love to have a statistics screen like this at the end of a campaign! Especially if you could save your results somehow and compare them to others campaigns. :beam:

@ IlDuce

Good show! Show those French blighters that us Brits mean business! Take their land and gift it to the Native Americans! That will show 'em. :2thumbsup:

Pinxit
02-10-2009, 00:51
I'd love to have a statistics screen like this at the end of a campaign! Especially if you could save your results somehow and compare them to others campaigns. :beam:

@ IlDuce

Good show! Show those French blighters that us Brits mean business! Take their land and gift it to the Native Americans! That will show 'em. :2thumbsup:

Yes, that would be nice. I fail to see a reason not to include this feature. It shouldnt take more than some hours of effort.


:viking:

CountArach
02-10-2009, 10:32
Vive l'Empereur! Vive le France!

Vuk
02-10-2009, 16:23
The best damned country on the face of this earth of course: USA!
:unitedstates::unitedstates::unitedstates: :unitedstates::unitedstates::unitedstates: :unitedstates::unitedstates:
Disclaimer: Being from the USA has not influenced my opinion on this incredibly sexy and awesome country at all! :beam:

Sir Beane
02-10-2009, 16:59
The best damned country on the face of this earth of course: USA!
:unitedstates::unitedstates::unitedstates: :unitedstates::unitedstates::unitedstates: :unitedstates::unitedstates:
Disclaimer: Being from the USA has not influenced my opinion on this incredibly sexy and awesome country at all! :beam:

Looking at your post combined with your sig has convinced me you could not possibly be biased in any way. That many flags couldn't possibly have influenced your decision. :laugh4:

Huzzah for patriotism! It's why I'm playing as the UK first. :laugh4:

Vuk
02-10-2009, 17:04
Looking at your post combined with your sig has convinced me you could not possibly be biased in any way. That many flags couldn't possibly have influenced your decision. :laugh4:

Huzzah for patriotism! It's why I'm playing as the UK first. :laugh4:

lol, a little patriotism is healthy for everyone. ~;) I will probably play as Britain next (either that or Prussia), but I love playing as the US when I can. Believe it or not, I disagree with the motivation for and manner of the break from Britain (and if I was in their situation, would not have done it), but I think that some think great came out of it, even if it was not intended. The patchwork government they set up collapsed, and most versatile and just system ever was crafted by some of the most learned and experience men on earth. So yeah, I guess that I am a patriot. ~;)

Sir Beane
02-10-2009, 17:07
lol, a little patriotism is healthy for everyone. ~;) I will probably play as Britain next (either that or Prussia).

I'll be playing as the US after Britain, but only if I can turn your country into a monarchy. Purely because it would be great to play as the 'Kingdom of America'. You could keep the flag, but add in a golden crown over the top of the ring of thirteen stars (going by the Thirteen colonies flag).

George Washington can be the founder of a royal dynasty. :laugh4:

Vuk
02-10-2009, 17:10
I'll be playing as the US after Britain, but only if I can turn your country into a monarchy. Purely because it would be great to play as the 'Kingdom of America'. You could keep the flag, but add in a golden crown over the top of the ring of thirteen stars (going by the Thirteen colonies flag).

George Washington can be the founder of a royal dynasty. :laugh4:


lol, it would be interesting to see what would have happened if the US adopted the fuedal system. It probably would not have lasted very long, but it would be interesting to see. To be honest with you, I think that I will try turning the US into a monarchy as well. :P I like the control that they give when playing games anyway. :P I always hated putting up with the Senate in Rome and the Pope in M2. I can only imagine how much worse it will be with a Republic. lol