View Full Version : HOTSEAT - Teutonic Campaign Hotseat 2
I think it's time to officially announce the Teutonic Hotseat Campaign 2.
The game will be played with Kingdoms 1.5 and the Teutonic Campaign.
A short list of rules:
-48 hour turns
-Console enabled game (with admin faction, basically so if someone drops out and a replacement can't be found the faction can be switched to AI).
-Battles playable
-No cheats (including the blatant kind as well as the 20 merchants in a fort on a single resource one. ).
There are six factions in the Teutonic campaign, Denmark, the HRE, Poland, The Order, Lithuania, and Novgorod. Only three have been selected thus far.
Current player player/faction list:
Ignoramus-Novgorod
Redemption- The Order
TheFlax-Denmark
Ramses II CP-Poland
Prince of Graal- Holy Roman Empire
Tristan de Castelreng-The Mongols
Zim-Lithuania
Ramses II CP
02-03-2009, 02:05
Evidently Poland is unpopular, so I'll take Poland.
:egypt:
Poland has the best cities, and is situated between a couple other factions... :sweatdrop:
They actually have a great deal of potential with their latin units and well developed settlements. :beam:
Do I have to beat the Teutonic campaign as one of the four starters to play as Poland, or is Poland not a SP option?
Wanted to see what I was in for. :laugh4:
:egypt:
I forgot about that. Yeah, the campaign has unlockable factions. I think a variation of the method used to manually unlock factions for the regular game works here as well.
You can still play Poland from the hotseat save either way since I'll be starting it, but I know I always like to look at my faction in SP just to get the hang of how developed the settlements are, etc.
Looks like everyone's picked a faction. I'll take the HRE to help fill out the western end of the map. We'll wait a bit before starting to see if anyone else wants to join. At the latest I'm thinking of starting tomorrow. :yes:
You're in good company. I can't speak for Iggy or Ramses, but neither TheFlax nor I would strike terror into the hearts of enemies by the mention of their name. :clown:
My crowning moment of awesome was surrendering as Georgia to the Abbassid Caliphate, without a fight, and becoming their vassal. In the BC hotseat. :clown:
I must be one of the least terrifying players in the Throne Room actually. :clown:
phonicsmonkey
02-03-2009, 03:24
My crowning moment of awesome was surrendering as Georgia to the Abbassid Caliphate, without a fight, and becoming their vassal. In the BC hotseat. :clown:
I must be one of the least terrifying players in the Throne Room actually. :clown:
I don't know buddy, I found your capitulation quite chilling
:beam:
I was absolutely terrified. Only my pathetically easy defeat in the Teutonic campaign comes close to as frightening. ~;)
I don't know buddy, I found your capitulation quite chilling
:beam:
phonicsmonkey
02-03-2009, 03:45
I was absolutely terrified. Only my pathetically easy defeat in the Teutonic campaign comes close to as frightening. ~;)
My utterly lame showing as the bankrupt Mongols must be even more frightening then..
My utterly lame showing as the bankrupt Mongols must be even more frightening then..
:boxedin:~:eek:~:mecry::eeeek: Oh, it was. That might be better attributed to the guy who completely ruined them before disappearing. I'm not sure there was anything you could do.
Redemption
02-03-2009, 04:10
We might want to wait for someone to go as Lithuania at least. Without them, the Teutonic campaign could be a bit lame.
If no one shows up for Lithuania, I might just take the Danes, and leave the AI to fight it out between the Brothers and the Pagans.
We'll see about getting at least one more player. I want to make sure no region on the map ends up empty...
Lithuania is one of the weaker factions. It might be hard to get a player.
How about I play Lithuania and we get one more player for Denmark or the HRE?
Surely not weaker than the -2500 king's purse deficit prone Mongols? :clown:
Not quite that weak but then most people aren't crazy enough to play the Mongols. :clown:
I figure that when I am inevitably utterly crushed and destroyed, I can blame it all on my faction and not on my poor skills. :clown:
A tried and true hotseat tactic. In the Britannia campaign I expected to lose since all the other factions have all the reason in the world to team up on England. Then Ireland betrayed everyone. :clown:
I figure that when I am inevitably utterly crushed and destroyed, I can blame it all on my faction and not on my poor skills. :clown:
phonicsmonkey
02-03-2009, 05:42
I figure that when I am inevitably utterly crushed and destroyed, I can blame it all on my faction and not on my poor skills. :clown:
That's what I did!
Then Ireland betrayed everyone.
:embarassed:
Redemption
02-03-2009, 05:43
Lithuania is one of the weaker factions. It might be hard to get a player.
How about I play Lithuania and we get one more player for Denmark or the HRE?
No need if you prefer the HRE. I don't mind rampaging through the AI's lands :2thumbsup:
Ignoramus
02-03-2009, 05:54
Start advertising guys! We must get these last two slots filled.
I actually kind of like Lithuania. They were my favorite faction playing Single Player. :yes:
No need if you prefer the HRE. I don't mind rampaging through the AI's lands :2thumbsup:
Ignoramus Can we advertise in the Citadel without our thread being closed? I didn't think FH liked hotseats being advertised.
If no one else joins, I guess I'll pick a real faction. After being briefed on many of the faction's "features", my excitement at playing the Mongols is somewhat lessened. :thumbsdown:
Just received word from TheFlax that he's switching to Denmark. Things were even worse for the Mongols that I thought. They don't seem to be meant as a player faction (and I don't mean the negative King's Purse).
Depending on how things go I might switch to Lithuania to give the Order someone to fight. :yes:
The upshot is if the Mongols aren't viable we only need one more player. I'll wait a day to see if one shows up. Then we start. :thumbsup:
Ignoramus
02-03-2009, 06:42
Ignoramus Can we advertise in the Citadel without our thread being closed? I didn't think FH liked hotseats being advertised.
I can't see why not. If FH doesn't like it, he'll close it, but all we need is one player so I'd give it a go.
Might be worth a try. I've also pmed a couple people I know here...
Emperor of Graal
02-03-2009, 11:32
If someone taught me how to do the hotseat (what I need etc)
I'll play as one of the not taken factions :sultan:
Ignoramus
02-03-2009, 11:54
Welcome, Prince of Graal!
Hotseat is very easy. All you need is Medieval2: Total War and the Kingdoms expansion. Basically, each player does his turn, saves the game and passes it onto the next player. Zim can probably explain better than I can, but it's very easy.
Emperor of Graal
02-03-2009, 14:04
Cool!
Can you email it?
I never new it was that simple
Which factions are available?
Oh and is 1.5 a patch or the Kingdoms installed??
Redemption
02-03-2009, 14:31
Kingdoms is 1.3, you need to DL the annoyingly large 1.5 patch.
The game is not started yet since there is still 1 fation to fill up, yours if you want it: the Holy Roman Empire. Once we start, the first player plays his turn and then uploads the file somewhere and posts the link for the save so that the next player can take it up. On your first turn, the game asks you for a password which you have to enter before doing your turn. Once you're turn is done, you press the turn button and the screen asking for the next person's password should show up. Press escape and save the file (probably with some predetermined name), upload it and post the link.
We'll probably have a diplomacy thread to argue and bicker between ourselves as to the fate of the North + PMs for secret negociations.
Now a few tips that might help you:
1- You DON'T get to fight your DEFNSIVE battles, but you DO get to play your OFFENSIVE battles, which means being the attacker is always a major advantage. It also means an exposed army is a vulnerable army.
2- A defeated army in a settlement or fort is completely destroyed. Players tend to use spies and siege equipment to bypass a siege so as not to leave their armies vulnerable to counter-attack. Which means: make a hell lot of spies!
3- They'll never expect you from the sea. If you can disembark, destroy a stack or take a settlement and leave no army exposed in doing so, you'll probably catch your enemies unawares.
4- Surprise is always a key element of a hotseat. Knowing what your enemies are up to, hiding your own movements, etc. is key. Players are sneaky, sneaky.
5- Last but not least, if you can do it, so can your ennemies! And since they're players and not the AI, they will, so be prepared!
Now let's start this game and :smash::smash::smash: some pagans!
Emperor of Graal
02-03-2009, 14:54
Do you where there is a website to upload saves?
Oh I'll play as HRE and Arrghh Can't find a download place for 1.5
Lets go and~:argue: some Pagans!!
Thanks for the Tips Redemption it going to help considering I've never done this kind of Hotseat!
EDIT Download the right file...(hopefully)
You can upload your files right here at the .Org.
In the little grey bar on top, simply select "Site Tools", a drop down menu will appear. Select "Links&Files", its the first one. Then in the categories you pick "PBM" and "2008". Simply "Add Entry" from the little grey bar below the other one. Remember to compress your save in a .zip format or something similar.
Hmmm, maybe there is a simpler way, but I don't know it. :clown:
Emperor of Graal
02-03-2009, 17:55
Thanks The Flax
Huh, I never knew you could do that. I always went to the Throne Room faq for the link. :clown:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?catid=193
You can upload your files right here at the .Org.
In the little grey bar on top, simply select "Site Tools", a drop down menu will appear. Select "Links&Files", its the first one. Then in the categories you pick "PBM" and "2008". Simply "Add Entry" from the little grey bar below the other one. Remember to compress your save in a .zip format or something similar.
Hmmm, maybe there is a simpler way, but I don't know it. :clown:
_Tristan_
02-03-2009, 20:30
Is there some place left ? Even as the Mongols, I'm game...
Emperor of Graal
02-03-2009, 20:32
Ask Zim
Well, the Mongols haven't been taken yet. I'd warn you of the many ways in which CA has screwed them, but I doubt that would stop you from destroying all in your path. :clown:
Is there some place left ? Even as the Mongols, I'm game...
Everyone, I present to you Tristan de Castelreng, victor of the first Teutonic Hotseat. Arrayed against half of the map which did attack him unjustly, he attacked his one thus far nonaggressive neighbor ("thus far" because the neighbor was still playing both sides for a deal). He then proceeded to kick the crap out of four factions in a single war. It was a very educational experience. :clown:
Emperor of Graal
02-03-2009, 20:57
When does the hotseat begin?
I'm going to set it up and release the save pretty soon, probably right after posting the diplomacy thread. :yes:
Diplomacy thread should be up soon but of course people can engage in private diplomacy any time.
Is there some place left ? Even as the Mongols, I'm game...
Can I surrender right now? :clown:
Alright, we have a diplomacy thread. Of course, people are free to negotiate via pm as well. :yes:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=112295
I'll try to get the game set up shortly. It's been a while since I've done so, so I might need some time. Whatever happens, we'll be starting tonight.
The game's on.
The Teutonic Order is up first. No hurry on this first turn, though. I assume there might be some heavy diplomacy in the beginning.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4415
The naming convention I used is "2Teutonic-1-1". 2 since this is the second Teutonic hotseat and 1-1 meaning turn one, faction 1. :yes:
Redemption
02-04-2009, 02:33
Lithuania is on https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4417
And almost everyone has a little greetings from the Order.
Operation "I Hope I Don't Die Within Five Turns" has begun. All that procrastinating in hopes of taking some time with m turn and I had to rush it. Oh, well. :clown:
Novgorod is up! :2thumbsup:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4424
Redemption
02-06-2009, 05:54
Operation "I Hope I Don't Die Within Five Turns" has begun. All that procrastinating in hopes of taking some time with m turn and I had to rush it. Oh, well. :clown:
Not to be paranoiac, I mean I don't always feel targeted, but wouldn't that be in direct opposition to my "I Hope He Dies Within Five Turns" plan?
Well, that is kind of the point. :clown:
Not to be paranoiac, I mean I don't always feel targeted, but wouldn't that be in direct opposition to my "I Hope He Dies Within Five Turns" plan?
Ignoramus
02-06-2009, 09:19
HRE's up!
http://rapidshare.com/files/194582824/2Teutonic-1-4.zip
Emperor of Graal
02-06-2009, 09:37
Aggrh
NEED HELP!!!
Everytime I click load game
it changes loading screen and there is no quote
and it takes me back to the main menu!
~:mecry:
EDIT:this time its just being annoying the loading screen doen't change but the quote disappears and goes back to the main menu
sorry but I don't think I installed patch 1.5 right. I not sure how to. I unpacked it from a RAR and pasted the files in the right place
(still trying to load the save)
EDIT2:Arrggh I've totally screwed up Teutonic campaign file its lost sound and all sorts of other things (I'm either going to reinstall or a nice person could give the big Teutonic folder in program files with 1.5 already installed)
which ones best and sorry for the hold up:damnmate:
Hmmm...do you have Kingdoms 1.5?
Emperor of Graal
02-06-2009, 09:58
I loaded the patch..
And pasted the files in Teutonic in program files
It's been a while since I've installed that patch. I'll download it again and take a look.
I'm pretty sure either there's an installer or you just extract to your main MTW2 folder...
It does have an installer. Just run that setup.exe file that comes with it. :yes:
Emperor of Graal
02-06-2009, 10:07
Thanks
oh and Zim Sorry you don't have to but
could you upload your Teutonic folder and then I can download it
I didn't understand the patch much.
Not sure I can upload the whole folder on the Org. Is there somewhere else?
I might be able to upload the exe file that installs the patch.
Emperor of Graal
02-06-2009, 10:10
Thanks that would be better because the one I installed didn't have an exe file
Nothing called "setup.exe"?
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4425
Emperor of Graal
02-06-2009, 10:15
No, a random file that contained loads of readme's in loads of languages and a folder that had Americas Brittania crusades and Teutonic
Then I screwed it up will pasting
Emperor of Graal
02-06-2009, 10:17
Everytime I click on setup it says Setup has stopped working and will now close....
stupid vistas
Hmmm...do you still have the compressed file? Double click on it and you should see two folders , one of them "Total_War_Kingdoms_Patch_US_NON_GOLD". That one has setup.exe.
If it isn't there maybe something went wrong with the download?
TheFlax might be able to help. He knows more about computers than I do.
Emperor of Graal
02-06-2009, 10:26
I only see Setup no folder
I meant in the compressed file of the patch. I'm sorry I didn't say as much. :sweatdrop:
Wait wait wait, which version of Kingdoms do you have? Because the US_NON_GOLD version of the patch will obviously not work if you bought M2TW and Kingdoms in the same pack. (Some sort of Gold version)
Emperor of Graal
02-06-2009, 10:33
No only setup I'll show you
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/picture.php?albumid=92&pictureid=812
Emperor of Graal
02-06-2009, 10:33
I brought them separated
Ok, but what I'm asking is: Did you buy your copy of Medieval 2 Total War bundled with the Kingdoms expansion? Or did you buy each seperately? Depending on your answer, it could simply be you downloaded the wrong patch.
EDIT: Ok well then, I suppose even if you extract "setup.exe" and try to run it, it doesn't work?
The compressed version of the patch, not the single file I uploaded. :clown:
I had it wrong anyway, you'd be using the UK version so there would be no "US_NON_GOLD" or anything. :oops:
I think there's only one UK version of the patch, even though it's labeled on the website as the "Gold" version. If it looks like the American one, the setup should be in one of the folders that comes with the patch. If not I'm not really sure where to find it... :sweatdrop:
No only setup I'll show you
Emperor of Graal
02-06-2009, 10:40
It doesn't work
Vista pops up with a message saying
Setup.exe has a error.
And it looks for a solution and then says it can't
Sorry about not helping much with the patch issue, but its almost 5 am here and I really ought to go sleep a bit. If in a few hours you still haven't been able to make the patch work, I'll take another look at it. :yes:
The Kingdoms Patch always was a bit of a pain. :thumbsdown:
I'm afraid I'm not computer savvy enough to be much help. The fact you have a different version of the game than TheFlax or I could be making our advice meaningless (it's probably why my copy of the setup file didn't work...).
Best place to check would likely be the apothecary. They can fix and Total War game problem. :yes:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=15&order=desc
Emperor of Graal
02-06-2009, 11:00
Sorry about not helping much with the patch issue, but its almost 5 am here and I really ought to go sleep a bit. If in a few hours you still haven't been able to make the patch work, I'll take another look at it. :yes:
Wow thanks....
Go and get some sleep
I should go to bed soon as well but we might as well give it one more try before posting threads int he help forum.
Can you unpack the .rar of the patch you downloaded into your MTW2 folder and then show me a pic of whatever files get unpacked? We'll see if it looks anything like what I got with the US patch. :yes:
Well, I'm off to bed (going on 3:00 A.M. here). Hopefully we can get this figured out tomorrow. :yes:
Emperor of Graal
02-06-2009, 19:58
Hello
just to ask....
I only pasted Teutonic related files to replace, does to affect the game if I don't paste it
the other files.
Redemption
02-06-2009, 23:25
Let's do this empirically.
1- Are you able to successfully unpack the compressed files from the patch? i.e. you get the setup.exe on your desktop (or wherever you unpac it) without any error message from the unpacker?
If yes, let's go down the list.
If not, I see you're using WinRar. I've had some problems with WinRar and Medieval 2 patches and files (my Kingdoms is from D2D so I had a lot of unpacking). I suggest trying WinAce http://www.download.com/WinAce/3000-2250_4-10030793.html it's always worked for me.
What I get once I unpack is this: https://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww333/CocaColaRevolution/help2.jpg You seem to get only the setup file. It may be because of WinRar. Or it's because our versions of Kingdoms are different. I can't be 100% sure.
2- Are you able to execute the setup.exe? This should bring you through an entire installation process with nice pictures from the game exactly like when you installed Kingdoms the first time. If it doesn't, then there is a problem. If you get an error message at this point, it is either A) you didn't unpack the patch successfully (see step 1) or B) your downloaded patch is corrupted.
If it's B), then download the patch again. And attempt the install again.
3- So you've gone through steps 1 and 2 and nothing yet works. Well that actually happened to me when I reinstalled Kingdoms just this weekend. I solved the problem the hard way. I uninstalled Kingdoms, uninstalled Medieval, uninstalled Stainless Steel 6.1 and uninstalled Broken Crescent. Then I reinstalled everything except for the mods. I downloaded the patch anew and installed that.
Everything worked fine.
If you want to reinstall mods, I suggest creating a seperate folder for your modded Medieval files (then again, not everyone has the hard drive space for that).
I'm no tech, that's just the way I wrestle these kinds of game related problems.
Emperor of Graal
02-07-2009, 10:15
Right I click on downloads on the computer.
And then go on the WinRAR file contains the patch all that's in there is the setup.
no data or anything.
I think I'm missing someth ing the other one I downloaded had no installer instead
a big folder containing patch files.
?????
What is going on? Have I got the wrong downloads?
Redemption
02-07-2009, 18:01
Try downloading the patch again.
Download WinAce.
And try to open it with WinAce.
Emperor of Graal
02-07-2009, 19:48
I think I should just withdraw to save you all time
Its for the best
Redemption
02-07-2009, 20:25
In that case, anyone minds if I sub the HRE until we can get someone to play them? I'll just tech them up in their little corner of the world.
I'll take the hre if no-one else wants them,that is if they are still open.
Redemption
02-08-2009, 09:06
Well, speaking for myself here, but yes please do. I'd like to see this moving along ASAP.
Well, if Prince of Graal has officially left (curse you 1.5 patch! :furious3:) you're welcome to take over, oz_wwjd.
Have you played a hotseat before?
This is the first turn, so passwords have not been set. :yes:
Redemption
02-10-2009, 00:59
Redemption enters the OOC thread and whistles a lively tune.
This will be my first time, but I'll try not to die too soon. Denmark it's your turn. I made a slight error in my upload,by not ending my turn,then saving it,if you could end my run without doing anything stupid,it'd be appreciated. https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4495
Poland is up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4502
Ramses II CP
02-11-2009, 02:22
Mongols are up:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/mz1wmtlz5hm/3193-2Teutonic-1-6.zip
:egypt:
Ignoramus
02-11-2009, 23:07
Someone should PM Tristan, as he may have forgotten.
Ramses II CP
02-12-2009, 05:29
He was PM'd, guaranteed. It's been awhile since I forgot one. :2thumbsup:
:egypt:
_Tristan_
02-12-2009, 09:05
Will do this today... Got caught up by other things...
_Tristan_
02-12-2009, 13:26
Here it is : Teutons (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4520)
Redemption
02-13-2009, 00:31
Blasted pagans: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4527
I may be headed for my demise, but I'll do so cheerfully. :beam:
This is the first test of operation "Add 2500 to the Mongol King's Purse". Let me know if it worked, Tristan. :yes:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4545
_Tristan_
02-14-2009, 17:13
I'll let you know as soon as the save comes back my way...
Ignoramus
02-18-2009, 08:03
HRE's up!
http://rapidshare.com/files/199474714/2Teutonic-2-4.zip
About time it sure took you long enough,denmark's up.
and Poland when I leave a field army sitting next to a rebel village,it's probably not the smartest idea to garrison said village with peasants. I took the liberty of exterminating them for you.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4588
Poland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4590) is up!
Ramses II CP
02-18-2009, 13:37
rotfl! So much for peace? Did it occur to you that I might've seen the peasants as useless and therefore best to serve as bait.
Busy morning, I'll get 'er done soon.
:egypt:
Ramses II CP
02-18-2009, 16:39
Mongols are up:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/y1nz1l5diwm/2Teutonic-2-7.zip
:egypt:
Redemption
02-18-2009, 17:15
Wait, wait, wait! You guys managed to start a war on turn 2 over a 300 pop. village? So much for peace indeed!
Make that two wars on turn 2, Ignoramus attacked a crappy castle of mine. :clown:
At least it wasn't a crappy village. :clown:
Make that two wars on turn 2, Ignoramus attacked a crappy castle of mine. :clown:
Ramses II CP
02-18-2009, 19:25
Lithuania and the Order are at war as well I believe. Yeah, I took that village even though there was an HRE general nearby, but then I pulled all the good units out and left a busted company of peasants in it. Worst case scenario what do I have to lose, you can't sack the village and the peasants are wasted upkeep anyway. :laugh4:
S'okay though, we'll work things out I'm sure... now, where did that Danish ambassador go?
:egypt:
Redemption
02-19-2009, 00:21
Lithuania and the Order are at war as well I believe.
:egypt:
Nah... Lithuania doesn't really count as a nation. It's just a lot of heretics and peasants standing in the way of the glorious Teutons :laugh4:
I also wanted that village as a castle for staging my attack/s from,once I get it teched up some..
That may be part of the reason he took it. :laugh4:
I also wanted that village as a castle for staging my attack/s from,once I get it teched up some..
Yeah,gotta have somewhere to spam dis feudal knights and the mounted version from. Besides what kind of hotseat would it be if everyone was at peace..
Redemption
02-20-2009, 00:03
Medieval: Total Peace - Special Carebear Edition?
Tristan asked to have his turn skipped in the BC game and hasn't responded to me about this one...
Teutons up.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4617
Redemption
02-22-2009, 00:48
Lithuania: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4620
The quite likely doomed Lithuania has made their opening gamble.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=193&id=4621
Redemption
02-22-2009, 02:35
Hmm I wonder what that means...
Sadly, nothing nearly so exciting as I might hope, but at least I can try not to make the conquest too easy on you. :clown:
Redemption
02-22-2009, 06:54
Well I'll probably be playing chivalrous enough, so I'll see where that gets me :yes:
Ignoramus
02-24-2009, 09:20
http://rapidshare.com/files/201875632/2Teutonic-3-4.zip
HRE's up!
Denmark's up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4640
The save shows up as corrupted when I try to extract it. :thumbsdown:
Anyone can try it, see if its just me?
Redemption
02-26-2009, 05:21
Corrupted for me as well.
Maybe something happened when the save was uploaded.
Could you try uploading again, oz_wwjd?
Redemption
02-26-2009, 06:30
Probably should recompress it and post it just to make sure. WinAce tends to never make mistakes in my experience.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4648Using winzip here,but this is the first time it's messed up. Try this link
I'm having the same problem. "Unsupported compression method" Perhaps you could try sending it to me uncompressed by email?
Sure,what's your e-mail address?
Poland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4662)
Ramses II CP
03-01-2009, 01:38
Mongols are up:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/zdkzdxyetlk/2Teutonic-3-6.zip
:egypt:
_Tristan_
03-02-2009, 07:27
will get to it today around lunchtime (12h00 GMT+1)
_Tristan_
03-02-2009, 13:39
Sorry guys... Worst timing ever...
I'd require a 24h hour extension or feel free to skip the turn (once more...)
_Tristan_
03-03-2009, 12:40
Taking save
_Tristan_
03-03-2009, 12:53
Teutons (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4672)
Redemption
03-04-2009, 01:59
Lithuania https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4674
Merlox123
03-04-2009, 22:36
Hey guys, this looks really interesting! any ways, Keep up this, the Teutonic is a good campaign! Hopefully we can all play together in Empire's Total War!
Hopefully,still not really satisfied with the demo of empires,hopefully the full game will be much better..
Redemption
03-05-2009, 06:35
Well I just got my ass handed to me by Iroquois when my very large French army tried to invade their territory! The blasted AI hid about 40% of his troops in tall grass. He had so many men to start with I didn't realise such a large number were missing. Routed my overextended cavalry along with some supporting militias and when that was gone, the Iroquois managed to storm my lines.
And I suck at placing static guns.
I would never have lost such a battle in MTW, RTW or M2TW or about any mods for those games.
So I'd say the new game is a huge improvement over previous titles.
Now back to burning pagans!
yeah, i got my ass handed to me in the demo the first few times,but on the other hand the camera is not as responsive as it is in MTW2,as not sure whether I'll like it,as it was giving me some trouble in the demo as any rate.
Crap, two days already. :sweatdrop:
I should be able to get this done tonight I think, although I have a test...
I'll see about scrounging up a sub. My plans for the turn are pretty simple.
Redemption
03-06-2009, 02:54
Oh I can do it for you!
I understand you were planning on disbanding that army near Riga and then suing the Order for peace, offering them Vilnius, right?
Ramses II CP
03-06-2009, 13:58
I'm going to sub for Zim this afternoon, so this won't be held up much longer. :2thumbsup:
:egypt:
Ramses II CP
03-06-2009, 19:52
Had to ask for considerable instructions, so this is still put off for awhile. Sorry, but the situation is complex. :laugh4:
:egypt:
Ramses II CP
03-07-2009, 05:29
At last! Novgorod is up:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/xmmjgmgwktz/2Teutonic-4-3.zip
Public summary since I was subbing: Riga is taken, D-whatever east of there is under token siege, the Order army that left Riga to the west was entirely routed, and Schwartz-whatever, the general moving towards Hrodna, suffered a cavalry raid against his catapults. One bloody catapult crewman survived the raid (Took me too long to withdraw off the map and he regenerated I guess) so the catapults aren't gone, but I don't know if they can still be used in an assault with just one crewman. The noble citizens of Hrodna anxiously await the answer to that very question. :laugh4:
I'll let Zim make the formal diplomatic announcement.
:egypt:
Ignoramus
03-07-2009, 11:34
http://rapidshare.com/files/206372395/2Teutonic-4-4.zip
HRE up!
Ordenmaschen Maxmillian is no more. But I doubt the Grand Duke will survive the Teutons' revenge.
I may take a bit longer than usual,having troubles with it not accepting my password so I can actually take my turn..
That's odd. There shouldn't be any reason your password would stop working.
I'm sorry I've been absent these last two days. Real life had been hitting me pretty hard but things will ease up once I finish this test. I'll grab the save and reset the password as soon as I can tomorrow. It will enable me to give the Mongols their cash injection for the turn as well.
Done https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4693
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4695
Thanks for that Zim,Denmark is next.
Ramses II CP
03-09-2009, 03:22
Your save is on the HRE PW screen, I think you need to hit 'end turn' and upload again. PM on the way. :2thumbsup:
:egypt:
Sorry about that, I didn't notice it was my turn until now. :embarassed: oz_wwjd, could you PM me next time its my turn, please?
On another note, the save isn't working for me again.
I'll take a look at the save later to see if it works for me...
Poland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4713)
Ramses II CP
03-13-2009, 15:18
Mongols are up:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/hgylmujwi2y/2Teutonic-4-7.zip
Announcement in the diplomacy thread. :2thumbsup:
:egypt:
_Tristan_
03-14-2009, 17:12
Teutons (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4719)
Btw : Zim, Have you been implementing the Mongol crisis bank funding ?
Just asking because I'm already in the red though my cuonts should have had me in the black (if slightly...)
I've been adding 2500 per turn, took the chance this past turn while I was resetting the HRE password.
Is it not taking? Maybe money can't be added during the pw input screen...
I can double the amount for this turn if you didn't get the last.
Teutons (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4719)
Btw : Zim, Have you been implementing the Mongol crisis bank funding ?
Just asking because I'm already in the red though my cuonts should have had me in the black (if slightly...)
Ramses II CP
03-15-2009, 03:45
Hmm, there has to be a way to test it that has unquestionable results. Why not run the save forward from before you added the money (Do you have all the PWs?) and see what the results are so we can compare?
:egypt:
Since I can reset passwords if I really need to, I've actually avoided asking anyone for them. I'm wondering if the add_money cheat doesn't work in the password request screen, which is when I did it this last turn...
Redemption?
GeneralHankerchief
03-17-2009, 01:47
Now that I have access to my M2TW, I can fill in if needed.
I may have to take you up on that. Can't say I know what the Order is up to, aside from destroying me. :laugh4:
We've been pretty lenient with turns so far, so I think he should get one more day. I'll pm him tonight. :yes:
Redemption
03-17-2009, 13:42
Sorry, never got a PM. I've been busy on ETW so I wasn't really checking the thread. I'll do it tonight.
Here it is: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4733
Sorry for the delay, had computer problems.
I should have my turn up within a day or so. Note that Redemption's save was posted with his edit of that last post, and not when the post was first made (so, I have about a day and a half. ~;p ).
Because of personal issues oz_wwjd has had to withdraw from the game. I'll see about finding a replacement.
I can now confirm that the command I'd used the last turn to give the Mongols money was wrong. I'm going to pm someone I know with a little more experience with console commands. Once I have it figured out the Mongols will receive 5000, which should even things back up.
New turn will be up tomorrow. :2thumbsup:
Edit: I apologize for the long wait. I was hit with another test, but that's it for a month. I will be playing the save fairly shortly.
Done. Teutonic units sure take a long time to die.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4742
Ignoramus
03-25-2009, 11:37
HRE:
http://rapidshare.com/files/213295673/2Teutonic-5-4.zip
Ramses II CP
03-25-2009, 14:29
Do we have a new HRE player?
:egypt:
Not yet. If I don't find one by tonight I'll skip the turn.
Ignoramus
03-26-2009, 03:04
GH said he may be able to help out.
GeneralHankerchief
03-26-2009, 03:32
Not until the Iron Bridge is finished.
Skipped the HRE and emailed the save to TheFlax for Denmark.
Sorry for the wait, Poland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4776) is up!
When the next turn is finished I'll need to grab the save to add the extra 5000 to the Mongols.
Ramses II CP
03-31-2009, 03:23
Mongols are up, PM'ing Z to add the cash:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/mzjnmifzgjn/2Teutonic-5-7.zip
:egypt:
Alright, let me know if it worked this time. 5000 florins added.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4779
_Tristan_
04-03-2009, 18:24
Sorry for the lateness... I simply forgot it was my turn...
teutons (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4784)
And I'm not sure that the money script worked...
Redemption
04-03-2009, 23:52
Lithuania https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4785
armies move so slowly in M2TW... gimme movement points like in BC!!!
Zim has contacted me, saying that he is still trying to get an internet connection, he should be able to play his turn in a day or two. He'll also be able then to make sure those florins have really been added to the Mongol's treasury or not.
Thank you for your understanding.
Ramses II CP
04-10-2009, 01:49
I'm on this now, should be done soon.
:egypt:
Ramses II CP
04-10-2009, 02:42
Novgorod is up:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/yn1mhl2m2oj/2Teutonic-6-3.zip
:egypt:
Ignoramus
04-13-2009, 12:43
HRE's up!
http://rapidshare.com/files/220784381/2Teutonic-6-4.zip
Ramses II CP
04-13-2009, 20:33
As I recall we don't have an HRE player anymore and Zim's out for awhile. Does anyone have the HRE password to sub for them? Z mentioned turning them over to the AI as a possibility as well, but I don't know how to do either thing.
:egypt:
As anyone tried to play their turn without a password? Zim might have reset it (making it blank) when he skipped their last turn. If not, we have to wait for Zim.
Ramses II CP
04-14-2009, 02:17
Okay I tried to set the HRE to AI but I don't have the admin password. Zim had reset the HRE password to blank, however, so I was able to skip their turn. Here is the save for Denmark:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/jq4njm5qm1k/2Teutonic-6-5.zip
Full disclosure!
I am at war with the HRE so it is possible that having the turn skipped will benefit me more than having the AI assume control. I believe there is very little the AI could do against me, but they could surely do more than the nothing they'll do if the turn is skipped. If anyone has even the slightist discomfort factor with me deciding to skip the turn then I would suggest we wait for Zim and let him turn it over to the AI. One vote against skipping means the save above is invalid and we wait; I'd suggest we wait 24 hours just to give everyone a chance to see the thread.
Please don't hesitate to express yourself on this, I'm not the admin for this game and I won't be offended at all if you want to wait and give the AI a shot. It's bad enough that my opponent bailed out on the game already. I definitely don't need any unfair advantages.
:egypt:
Redemption
04-14-2009, 03:27
Okay I tried to set the HRE to AI but I don't have the admin password. Zim had reset the HRE password to blank, however, so I was able to skip their turn. Here is the save for Denmark:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/jq4njm5qm1k/2Teutonic-6-5.zip
Full disclosure!
I am at war with the HRE so it is possible that having the turn skipped will benefit me more than having the AI assume control. I believe there is very little the AI could do against me, but they could surely do more than the nothing they'll do if the turn is skipped. If anyone has even the slightist discomfort factor with me deciding to skip the turn then I would suggest we wait for Zim and let him turn it over to the AI. One vote against skipping means the save above is invalid and we wait; I'd suggest we wait 24 hours just to give everyone a chance to see the thread.
Please don't hesitate to express yourself on this, I'm not the admin for this game and I won't be offended at all if you want to wait and give the AI a shot. It's bad enough that my opponent bailed out on the game already. I definitely don't need any unfair advantages.
:egypt:
Personnally, I'm all for skipping the turn and moving forward.
Poland. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4817)
The town of Kalmar has fallen to danish arms.
Ramses II CP
04-16-2009, 21:12
The Mongols are up:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/oitmr5owmmd/2Teutonic-6-7.zip
Announcement in the diplomacy thread. :2thumbsup:
Edit: I should mention, after having taken most of his remaining holdings, that there really wasn't anything for the AI to do about it. He could've trained 3-4 more companies of spear militia at most, and those wouldn't have slowed me down even slightly. If there had been a player for the HRE he could've sold off all his buildings in spite or something, but I was pretty well positioned to knock off all his family members and finish the faction either way.
:egypt:
_Tristan_
04-17-2009, 17:37
Turn is played but I'm waiting for Zim to do his money gimmick to my treasury before hitting end turn...
If I do not hear from him in the WE, I'll hit end turn and post the save then.
Ramses II CP
04-17-2009, 18:57
Zim asked me to do the money add thing Tristan, so pm me your save. I was going to do it before you played I just hadn't gotten it done yet because of my unfamiliarity with the console. If you'd prefer it not be me that'd be fine with me, I think we probably share a border at L'vov now, eh?
:egypt:
Finally finished setting my computer up planning to check out the two mongol saves from last turn to compare them to see if the add money command did anything, and it looks like nearly all of my video game cds and dvds disappeared sometime during the move. Turned the apartment upside down and couldn't find them. :furious3:
I still have the play disc (but not the others) for vanilla but nothing for Kingdoms.
I'll have to drop out of the game for now. Ramses has the admin pw in case of an emergency. We have a good group here so I think things will move along fine if noone wants to gm. I'll try to find a player for Lithuania, preferably someone with a few games under their belt since I suspect a newer player would not fare well entering in the middle of the war going on...
I apologize for the trouble. Looks like I'll be slowly rebuilding my game collection. :help:
Redemption
04-17-2009, 23:48
Ouch! Not fun. I hope for you that its just a tragic box mix-up and that you'll find your games in no time!
Ramses II CP
04-21-2009, 23:15
Got the save today and I'm working on this tonight. I'm no console god so bear with me. :2thumbsup:
:egypt:
Ramses II CP
04-22-2009, 14:48
Okay, I (frankly) have no idea if this worked, but I did it 'correctly' according to the cheat list I have and it returned no errors, so...
http://www.mediafire.com/file/z5dmg42z0rz/2Teutonic-7-1 test.zip
I called it 'test' because if the Teutonic Order, the current nation, has 5k extra florins by any chance then it means I failed. :laugh4:
PM away soon!
:egypt:
Redemption
04-25-2009, 04:25
Will play my turn tomorrow AM as soon as I can get to a computer that runs the game!
Sorry for the delay. Have lotsa shows, rehearsals, etc. these days.
phonicsmonkey
04-25-2009, 04:51
Have lotsa shows, rehearsals, etc. these days.
you in the biz mr.lemon?
Redemption
04-25-2009, 05:05
Trying to make my way there.
Redemption
04-25-2009, 15:28
I definitely have 5k too much in my treasury.
Also, Novgorod is about to lose an army quite miserably. Props on the very threatening msg though :laugh4:
Ramses II CP
04-25-2009, 16:26
:furious3:
The Mongols must have a different faction name in the Teutonic game, I couldn't find a specific reference for it and used the one from vanilla which obvious failed and defaulted to the generic add money command. Before Tristan plays his next turn I'll add 10k to his treasury since it's clear that the generic command does work.
The console is extremely frustrating to me because it provides no feedback and no way to check your results.
:egypt:
Redemption
04-28-2009, 01:46
I will not be able to play this turn any time soon. If you want, you can have it subbed by anyone not seeking to smash me to tiny teuton bits, or just skip it. I'll live with the consequences :sweatdrop:
Sorry, it's a big 2 weeks, though once it's finished (1 week left) I'll have more time on the comp!
Ramses II CP
04-28-2009, 04:28
I just subbed for Zim so I don't think it would be reasonable for me to sub the other side of the same conflict. I know entirely too much about the exact positions of his troops.
:egypt:
Redemption
05-02-2009, 18:20
Well since the turn wasn't skipped, here it is Lithuania (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=199&id=4877)
Still sans Kingdoms disc. I'll see about getting the turn subbed while I look for a permanent replacement.
Ignoramus
05-06-2009, 08:09
Is it alright if I act as a temporary sub for Zim? We're allied, and both in the same war against the Teutons.
Redemption
05-06-2009, 13:21
Fine with me if it's fine with Zim.
Ramses II CP
05-06-2009, 14:32
Please do Igno, I'd do it myself but I'm worried about a future conflict of interest. Let's keep the game moving. :2thumbsup:
:egypt:
Ignoramus
05-07-2009, 03:19
Ok. I'll do it then.
Ignoramus
05-13-2009, 06:29
Right, finally got the password from Zim, and will do both Lithuania's and Novgorod's turns.
Ignoramus
05-13-2009, 08:53
http://rapidshare.com/files/232386501/2Teutonic-7-4.zip
Denmark's up!
First off, sorry for being nearly a week late. :shame:
I'm having problems with my Kingdoms install and I can't find my disks, I'd like it if someone could simply skip or play my turn, I'll PM my password to anyone interested.
Thanks in advance.
Ramses II CP
05-20-2009, 06:07
We're marriage allies Flax, happy to sub for ya. Drop me a line with your pw and basic instructions. :2thumbsup:
:egypt:
Ramses II CP
05-21-2009, 15:04
Mongols are up:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/fgdiuhmlzlt/2Teutonic-7-6.zip
I added 10k to their cash with the generic add_money command.
:egypt:
Redemption
05-22-2009, 01:02
Concerning the Mongols... Tristan hasn't been online for a while I think.
I subbed his Ghorid turn and he still hasn't read the report I sent him...
Ramses II CP
05-22-2009, 01:38
:thumbsdown:
I don't know where that leaves us, unless Igno wants to sub him too. I suppose we should post about a replacement player?
:egypt:
Ignoramus
05-22-2009, 03:21
I can sub for him, but it effectively means I'm managing a huge coalition of resources, provinces, and arms. Also, I can see all of what my allies are doing and plan my moves accordingly. I can sub this time, but I'd prefer we get some replacement players pronto. It's just not fair to the other players otherwise.
Hey guys, If you are wondering Why the Mongols are losing money so often, Please look at the king's purse, If you did not correctly modify it, the King's purse is a huge -, Which kills the nation no matter what it does.
If you knew that i'm sorry for repeating, but if you didn't. That is the problem, and you must give the Mongols money if you want them to survive, or easier, before you make the game, simply change the # that the king purse has into a realistic number!
Regards-
Merlox.
The Lemongate
05-29-2009, 14:03
Without Zim and Tristan, do we attempt to keep this game alive or do we let it die?
We're all in the new SS hotseat anywys.
Ignoramus
05-29-2009, 14:17
Keep it alive! It was getting so interesting.
The Lemongate
05-29-2009, 14:43
I don't mind.
But we need 2 new players then. And Zim was actually the moderator here.
I have Kingdoms up an running, reinstalling right now actually. So I'm up for continuing but as the Lemon man said, things are looking bleak.
Ramses II CP
05-29-2009, 21:26
I've really been enjoying this hotseat as well. Perhaps the Mongols shouldn't be a playable faction? It wasn't Zim's original intent that they be so, Tristan just asked him and he agreed. I've just given them 10k in funds though, so as the AI they might be a bit bad***.
I have the admin password and can set them back to AI (I think) if that's the course we all agree on.
:egypt:
The Lemongate
05-29-2009, 21:50
Well that's good. But I believe Zim can't play as well. So it leaves Lithuania hanging in the balance. And they were doing quite well for themselves I might add.
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