UK'S SNOW CHAOS

[Fisherking]

Yep!

It looks as if they may have gotten a whole inch! :embarassed:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7864395.stm

:laugh4:

It is a good thing all the Brits possess indominumable fortitude! :shame:

Did I spell that right?:dizzy2:

[FactionHeir]

indomitable I believe is what you meant?

London's frozen over yesterday and I ended up being one of 4 people who bothered even showing up for work. Heard from a friend that his A&E department had only 2 docs available day round.

I suppose the main problem on Monday was that just about any tube and bus was not running more than the snow on the streets. While walking to work (rather than bussing it), I noted large amounts of cars driving about, hence my thought that people ust couldn't be bothered to leave their homes and get their feets wet :grin2:

Today, services are back to just about normal but sidewalks are frozen and slippery. I wonder what the next falls audit will show in that regard.

[Husar]

Yes, looks like a whole inch, how horrible.

My prayers for all the startled brits who are locked in in their houses by the white inch of terror. :shame:

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

We have had three inches, not one. All the pavements are frozen, and the snow came down so quick that a lot of the roads weren't gritted.

So, an inconvenience.

[rory_20_uk]

Snow was up to my mid calf, so 4 or more inches.

4 mile walk through the now and ice to get to work. Many of the sods didn't even bother to cancel their appointments.

~:smoking:

[FactionHeir]

Sidewalks still aren't gritted here in H&F. Lazy council.

[Scurvy]

I was stuck in London overnight due to train cancellations which was annoying

its amazing how the smallest amount of snow causes the entire tansport system to break down, and its also amazing how many people take a day of work - bbc say almost 1/5th of people didn't turn up, I can't believe all those people could'nt of got to work if they wanted to

:2thumbsup:

[InsaneApache]

We got over a foot last night and everything is tikkity boo up here.

Southern jessies, they're all yitten and nesh. :whip:

[Idaho]

The UK has no infrastructure to deal with snow. Apparently you need to have 6+ snow events a year to justify standing snow ploughs and teams of clearers and gritters. We get 1 snow event every 4 years.

[Hooahguy]

down here, central GA hasent gotten serious snow in....
i think the last time was... 1998 i think.

[Furunculus]

it is blizzardizing here atm.

[Furunculus]

Snow was up to my mid calf, so 4 or more inches.

4 mile walk through the now and ice to get to work. Many of the sods didn't even bother to cancel their appointments.

~:smoking:

i dunno about you, but 4 inches takes me to my ankle, not halfway up my calf!

[Hosakawa Tito]

i dunno about you, but 4 inches takes me to my ankle, not halfway up my calf!

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing but the doctor should know. at least he didn't make me do a metric conversion...

Many cities & areas that infrequently deal with snow & ice removal tend to shut down during such events. When I worked on Long Island, NY the local people used to call in when it rained hard.

[Husar]

I was stuck in London overnight due to train cancellations which was annoying

its amazing how the smallest amount of snow causes the entire tansport system to break down, and its also amazing how many people take a day of work - bbc say almost 1/5th of people didn't turn up, I can't believe all those people could'nt of got to work if they wanted to

:2thumbsup:

My point exactly. Except for the train cancellations, while it is somewhat weird that a manymany ton train is stopped by a tiny bit of frozen water, last time I got to see two really fast trains passing by while I was waiting for 40 mins and they whirled up snow and it was just beautiful to watch and made me really, really happy, so it was worth the wait. :2thumbsup:

On the topic of gritting, that is the absolutely worst thing people always do with snow and it's so annoying as well. You finally get some nice snow and people start throwing salt at it so they can use their darned annoying tin cans with wheels. It's like they're all addicted to those bloody tin cans and cannot even think about using public transport or their own bloody feet. Oh gosh, they might be 10 minutes late and the world could stop turning due to that! :wall: :soapbox:

After the last snow here, everything was covered in salt, I even had to wash my leather boots because they had salt everywhere and I think that's a bad thing, down in the subway station I felt like something was in the air and it seemed to hurt my eyes now and then, probably that bloody salt they put everywhere in masses...
So I wish for some snow and once I get it everybody else tries to destroy it as fast as they can so they can drive their environment-destroying tin cans around everywhere. :no:

[Justiciar]

I had a driving test today. It was cancelled. Act of god?

[KukriKhan]

We got over a foot last night and everything is tikkity boo up here.

Southern jessies, they're all yitten and nesh. :whip:

You blokes are really giving my Brit-to-Yank translator a good workout. ~D

[LittleGrizzly]

The valleys have a nice white shine to em, got over half a foot of snow in the garden

[FactionHeir]

On the topic of gritting, that is the absolutely worst thing people always do with snow and it's so annoying as well. You finally get some nice snow and people start throwing salt at it so they can use their darned annoying tin cans with wheels.

I'm only annoyed they gritted the roads but not the sidewalk. Think of the poor frail elderly who will be tripping and falling.

[KukriKhan]

I'm only annoyed they gritted the roads but not the sidewalk. Think of the poor frail elderly who will be tripping and falling.

People in the neighborhoods don't have shovels? You know, those rectangular metal thingees attached to a stick? Ya slid 'em across the sidewalk and pitch the snow into the yard... where kids, released from school build snowmen?

[Devastatin Dave]

Global WARMING strikes again. Better buy more carbon credits and repent to Al Gore before its too late!!!

[Sigurd]

I'm only annoyed they gritted the roads but not the sidewalk. Think of the poor frail elderly who will be tripping and falling.
Over here where the snow is fairly common, we have this rule that the property owner of the house or building which the sidewalk passes, is responsible for clearing the sidewalk in front of the building.
We even have council workers with the full time job of taking pictures of neglected sidewalks and fining the property owners. The council is responsible for sidewalks which does not pass by private buildings.

[Andres]

Over here where the snow is fairly common, we have this rule that the property owner of the house or building which the sidewalk passes, is responsible for clearing the sidewalk in front of the building.
We even have council workers with the full time job of taking pictures of neglected sidewalks and fining the property owners. The council is responsible for sidewalks which does not pass by private buildings.

Idem dito here in Belgium.

[Fisherking]

We even have council workers with the full time job of taking pictures of neglected sidewalks and fining the property owners.

Heh, heh, heh!

Lets just think about that for a moment shall we!

Full time work…

Fine the property owners…

Full time work?

Wonder what it pays? A percentage of the fines? Nahw!!

Isn’t it bad enough that the continent gave us traffic cameras! Now they are all surveillance crazy in the government….

Not something I would like to see…

Doesn’t that sound like a Government Job though!!

Right now there are people in Georgia , Texas , and Louisiana applying for that position at $80,000 a year…

[Sigurd]

Heh, heh, heh!

Lets just think about that for a moment shall we!

Full time work…

Fine the property owners…

Full time work?

Wonder what it pays? A percentage of the fines? Nahw!!

Isn’t it bad enough that the continent gave us traffic cameras! Now they are all surveillance crazy in the government….

Not something I would like to see…

Doesn’t that sound like a Government Job though!!

Right now there are people in Georgia , Texas , and Louisiana applying for that position at $80,000 a year…
Heh... The property owners are mad considering the council not being able to clear their sidewalks.
They're all: Give the man a shovel not a camera (in a more colourful language).

[Tribesman]

bbc say almost 1/5th of people didn't turn up, I can't believe all those people could'nt of got to work if they wanted to

Maybe it had something to do with the schools closing so people were having to mind their kids .


Global WARMING strikes again.
Yes Dave good point , what used to be a regular occuarance hadn't happened for 20 years

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Maybe it had something to do with the schools closing so people were having to mind their kids .

Make the child shovel.

[InsaneApache]

Make the child shovel.

hear, hear....:whip:

[LittleGrizzly]

Had a wicked 2 days out in the snow, loads of snowball fighting today, it was great.

[KukriKhan]

Had a wicked 2 days out in the snow, loads of snowball fighting today, it was great.

Rests his case.

[HoreTore]

Heh... The property owners are mad considering the council not being able to clear their sidewalks.
They're all: Give the man a shovel not a camera (in a more colourful language).

So..... they're mad because they're too lazy to shovel their own damned sidewalk?

I'm happy I live on this side of the mountain :beam:

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I live in a city, I have no shovel, how do I clear the pavement?

[Hosakawa Tito]

Heh... The property owners are mad considering the council not being able to clear their sidewalks.
They're all: Give the man a shovel not a camera (in a more colourful language).

Our cities and towns have the same ordinance and problems. Some homeowners, especially the elderly & disabled cannot shovel. Renters won't shovel their section, you're lucky to get the rent. Property owned by the town isn't cleared on a consistent basis either. Then there's saps like me who shovel mine, my mother's, my elderly neighbor, and my two rentals only to have the street plow come along and fill 'em back in. I'm thinking about installing toll booths on my section of sidewalk to help recover maintenance costs *shovels & chiropractor visits*. ~:wacko:

[Fisherking]

Our cities and towns have the same ordinance and problems. Some homeowners, especially the elderly & disabled cannot shovel. Renters won't shovel their section, you're lucky to get the rent. Property owned by the town isn't cleared on a consistent basis either. Then there's saps like me who shovel mine, my mother's, my elderly neighbor, and my two rentals only to have the street plow come along and fill 'em back in. I'm thinking about installing toll booths on my section of sidewalk to help recover maintenance costs *shovels & chiropractor visits*. ~:wacko:

Some times I think these guys lay in wait until someone shovels out just so they can make them do it again!:smash:

There is nothing quite like shoveling out to the street in deep snow, especially the wet heavy stuff, and when you go in to recover a little energy before going out, the plow comes and builds a five foot wall between you and the street.

It makes the several tons you moved before look small in comparison!

:wall:

[Husar]

So the elderly can't shovel and can't walk outside either and that's why homeowners shovel the snow onto the street, then complain they cannot use their cars until the authorities have the streets ploughed ahen the homeowners have to shovel the sidewalks again....
The easiest solution would be a working subway net and having schoolkids run errands for the elderly, then you can just leave the white glory in peace, everybody will be happy and the schoolkids can help the economy with their earnings. Oh, and we'd do a lot to stop the global temperature of terror, doom and destruction.

[KukriKhan]

So the elderly can't shovel and can't walk outside either and that's why homeowners shovel the snow onto the street, then complain they cannot use their cars until the authorities have the streets ploughed ahen the homeowners have to shovel the sidewalks again....
The easiest solution would be a working subway net and having schoolkids run errands for the elderly, then you can just leave the white glory in peace, everybody will be happy and the schoolkids can help the economy with their earnings. Oh, and we'd do a lot to stop the global temperature of terror, doom and destruction.


When I was a kid, I made pretty-good kid-money doing all those things. I loved when it snowed. I shovelled my side of the block (brother did the other) then ran errands for half a day. By sundown I'd be tired, but proud, and "rich".

[Sigurd]

I live in a city, I have no shovel, how do I clear the pavement?
Table salt and a spoon might just do the trick, If you have the time. :smartass2:

Oh... BTW it snows outside. Right this very minute :2thumbsup:.

Proof:

https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/Outside_office.jpg

[KukriKhan]

Table salt and a spoon might just do the trick, If you have the time. :smartass2:

Oh... BTW it snows outside. Right this very minute :2thumbsup:.

Proof:

https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/Outside_office.jpg


A beautiful scene, Sigurd... but no sidewalks. You live in the woods?

[Sigurd]

A beautiful scene, Sigurd... but no sidewalks. You live in the woods?
Heh... the streets are on the other side of the building. I made sure to get an office with a woods view.
Ya... know... Norway and its environmental Nazism.
When building, you must make sure that you do as little harm to the nature as possible, hence it looks like I am inside a wood. Which is more or less true.

I like the scenery though. :beam:

[Husar]

When I was a kid, I made pretty-good kid-money doing all those things. I loved when it snowed. I shovelled my side of the block (brother did the other) then ran errands for half a day. By sundown I'd be tired, but proud, and "rich".

That's the spirit. :2thumbsup:
Except for the shovelling, but I can see how a good capitalist like you would make money out of that as well. ~;)

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Actually, I've been thinking about this pavement-shoveling thing.

In the UK the government owns the pavements and roadsied verges, people get in trouble if they obstruct either (the English in particular have a habit of claiming bits of verge with rocks and gnomes), I assume this is so in other countries. If so, given that the state owns the pavement, how do they justify you shoveling it?

It's no different than shoveling the road, surely?

[Lemur]

In Soviet Russia, pavement shovels you!

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Eh?

Sorry don't get it.

[Tribesman]

Actually, I've been thinking about this pavement-shoveling thing........


Good points Wigferth .
So a couple of questions .
With that common law thing does that mean that if you keep the pathway snow free for 12 years does it count as maintaining the land so it becomes your property in the 13th year ?
Does accepting liability to clear the path to maintain a right of passage mean that you would also be liable for all repairs or improvements on that path even if you don't own it ?
If you cleared the snow but left (or by the nature of the weather had formed) a layer of black ice would you be liable for anyone that slipped on that ice ?
Do you need a certificate of competance to ensure that you are able to clear snow without someone suing you for accidents from incompetant path clearance?

[Strike For The South]

It is 62 degrees here.

[Hosakawa Tito]

Good points Wigferth .
So a couple of questions .
With that common law thing does that mean that if you keep the pathway snow free for 12 years does it count as maintaining the land so it becomes your property in the 13th year ?
Does accepting liability to clear the path to maintain a right of passage mean that you would also be liable for all repairs or improvements on that path even if you don't own it ?
If you cleared the snow but left (or by the nature of the weather had formed) a layer of black ice would you be liable for anyone that slipped on that ice ?
Do you need a certificate of competance to ensure that you are able to clear snow without someone suing you for accidents from incompetant path clearance?

I know that some municipalities charge owners for sidewalk replacement & damage repair. Most damage occurs from large tree roots that heave and break the pavement.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

That's interesting, and Tribes has pulled up the relevant bits of Common Law from my young by musty mind. Rapair and maintainance of pavements in Britain is the responsibility of the local Council on public roads, so surely they should have gritted both pavement and road on Monday?

As an aside, the road to my flat was not gritted, presumably because it is difficult to access. Overall we were not badly hit and yet I was still stepping around blocks of ice on Tuesday.

[HoreTore]

That's interesting, and Tribes has pulled up the relevant bits of Common Law from my young by musty mind. Rapair and maintainance of pavements in Britain is the responsibility of the local Council on public roads, so surely they should have gritted both pavement and road on Monday?

As an aside, the road to my flat was not gritted, presumably because it is difficult to access. Overall we were not badly hit and yet I was still stepping around blocks of ice on Tuesday.

Then here's an idea:

Grab a shovel and do something about it. Like the rest of us have to.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Then here's an idea:

Grab a shovel and do something about it. Like the rest of us have to.

Under UK law that would be a very bad idea for me to do, and I don't have a shovel. I should pay £20+ for a once in a twenty year event? If everyone in this block did that we might as well pay the government to clear it.

I don't own the pavements, the city does. The city will fine me if I leave anything on them, they are responsible for the maintainance. Why should I clear something that at every other time I am not allowed to interfere with.

Or are you just dissagreeing for form's sake?

[Lemur]

MY township owns my sidewalk as well, but I shovel it when it gets covered with snow. That's what all of us who live in colder climates do. You don't sit on your favorite chair and wait for the city to do the work; you get out and you clear the walk.

A snow shovel costs 20 quid? Seems a bit dear to me.

[KukriKhan]

Under UK law that would be a very bad idea for me to do, and I don't have a shovel. I should pay £20+ for a once in a twenty year event? If everyone in this block did that we might as well pay the government to clear it.

I don't own the pavements, the city does. The city will fine me if I leave anything on them, they are responsible for the maintainance. Why should I clear something that at every other time I am not allowed to interfere with?

Excellent point(s).

If Her Majesty, who actually owns the roads and byways, saw on her breakfast schedule of 'things to do today' were listed "Visit Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla", at home,

did so, and slipped on the sidewalk leading to your house. Who would be responsible for any injuries she might suffer?

[Thermal]

Some people seem to be sarcastic about the snow in UK, america in-particular, but to those people remember the UK isn't prepared for snow like this, its 2 1/2 inch where i am and in some of USA and canada that is normal and measures are made to prevent it being a problem, however britain is somewhat unprepared for such extreme weather.

[Fisherking]

Some people seem to be sarcastic about the snow in UK, america in-particular, but to those people remember the UK isn't prepared for snow like this, its 2 1/2 inch where i am and in some of USA and canada that is normal and measures are made to prevent it being a problem, however britain is somewhat unprepared for such extreme weather.

We all know that 777Ares777. And any ribbing is only in fun. There are a lot of places that should be prepared for snow events and get them almost yearly but are not…and the snow received in the UK would also send them into a panic…

While there are places where that amount is totally insignificant so it all has a touch of irony…

Enjoy the Snow!

[Ironside]

It is 62 degrees here.

But then you're wimps who cannot handle snow or cold properly. :smug:


We all know that 777Ares777. And any ribbing is only in fun. There are a lot of places that should be prepared for snow events and get them almost yearly but are not…and the snow received in the UK would also send them into a panic…

While there are places where that amount is totally insignificant so it all has a touch of irony…

Enjoy the Snow!

That's pretty accurate, the same weather that hit the UK has arrived here and have gotten slightly reinforced on the way (estimated to fall about 30 cm snow). It goes down as annoying, as it will last for days and it's currently quite windy. Thus it has been a warning about snow smoke.

Still it's nothing serious or unusual. ~;p

[Sigurd]

https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/snowoutsideoffice.jpg

Update...
It has started snowing again.

We here at the west coast are used to shifting weather. Cold - warm, Rain - snow, windy - windier.
Usually you will have all combinations within a single week.

This is the usual scenario:
Clouds gather ... temperature stays around the freezing point ... Heavy precipitation results in a few inches of snow ... You shovel and clear paths and property, but what you cleared is refilled ... ...Temperature raises above freezing point, precipitation turns into rain ... snow turns to slush ... temperature sinks again ... Ice everywhere. ... you salt and sand your property to get rid of the danger ... Temperature rises ... clouds gather ... rinse and repeat.

I can no longer count on two hands the times this has happened this year. My Salt/Sand budget will crack. :disappointed:
I get to exercise though.

[Fisherking]

https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/snowoutsideoffice.jpg

Update...
It has started snowing again.

We here at the west coast are used to shifting weather. Cold - warm, Rain - snow, windy - windier.
Usually you will have all combinations within a single week.

Yes! Unlike Bavaria where we get wider variances within the course of some days! Rain, Snow, Sleet, Clear Sunshine, snow quickly melts, followed by Snow, then Snow…and next hour it may start over again!

But the next snow is now predicted for Saturday or Sunday.

:laugh4:

[FactionHeir]

Excellent point(s).

If Her Majesty, who actually owns the roads and byways, saw on her breakfast schedule of 'things to do today' were listed "Visit Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla", at home,

did so, and slipped on the sidewalk leading to your house. Who would be responsible for any injuries she might suffer?

Me thinks either the council, or....god (if he should exist that is).

Heavy Snow's forecast for Friday again. Supposedly the same as Monday.

[HoreTore]

MY township owns my sidewalk as well, but I shovel it when it gets covered with snow. That's what all of us who live in colder climates do. You don't sit on your favorite chair and wait for the city to do the work; you get out and you clear the walk.

:2thumbsup:

[InsaneApache]

I get the wife to do it. A double whammy. :whip: :laugh4:

[Hosakawa Tito]

I get the wife to do it. A double whammy. :whip: :laugh4:

After she cooks dinner, plumps up your sofa pillow and fetches your beer right?:laugh4:

[InsaneApache]

Exactley. :beam:

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

MY township owns my sidewalk as well, but I shovel it when it gets covered with snow. That's what all of us who live in colder climates do. You don't sit on your favorite chair and wait for the city to do the work; you get out and you clear the walk.

A snow shovel costs 20 quid? Seems a bit dear to me.

I feel you have missed my point. It's not about doing the work, it's about the question of why something which you are usually expressly forbidden to interfere with suddenly becomes your responsibility when it snows. Especially when, like me, you live in a converted brewery with one access and 50 foot of paving up and down the hill either side.

I'm quite happy to clear the access to land I own but the pavements in general are expressely the preserve of the Council for the rest of the year.

[HoreTore]

I feel you have missed my point. It's not about doing the work, it's about the question of why something which you are usually expressly forbidden to interfere with suddenly becomes your responsibility when it snows. Especially when, like me, you live in a converted brewery with one access and 50 foot of paving up and down the hill either side.

I'm quite happy to clear the access to land I own but the pavements in general are expressely the preserve of the Council for the rest of the year.

But still, if it bugs you, the very simple solution is to do something about it. It takes about 10 minutes tops.

There's principles, and then there's stupidity.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

100 feet of pavement? As well as the road which hasn't been gritted, should I do all the intervening pavements between here and the university, that's about half a mile.

I am talking about a principle. This government has taken away my right to trial, eroded the presumption of my innocense, watches me with cameras, would fine me for cutting the grass on the roadside verge and yet they won't hire someone to come for half an hour with a shovel and make the pavement safe so that we don't break our necks.

As I said, I fail to see why something I am expressly prohibited from interfereing with has suddenly become my problem. I'm pretty sure someone was fined for filling in a cracked pavement with grit and tar a few years ago as well.

[Adrian II]

[..] last time I got to see two really fast trains passing by while I was waiting for 40 mins and they whirled up snow and it was just beautiful to watch and made me really, really happy, so it was worth the wait.This is so true. Husar, I love you.
Had a wicked 2 days out in the snow, loads of snowball fighting today, it was great.Attaboy!

Did you know that 15.000 British people called emergency services to complain about snowball-throwing?

Amid the general hysteria over a few inches of snow which is bad enough, this really takes the biscuit. What a bunch of wusses. I think you guys should scrap the 'Great' in Great Britain.

:shame:

[LittleGrizzly]

Did you know that 15.000 British people called emergency services to complain about snowball-throwing?

Grumpy sods no doubt!

In fairness we really aren't used to this much snow, worst for 18 years i heard... i think people need to lighten up and enjoy the snow, we don't get it often so make the most of it well its lasts...

My teacher actually refuses to use the term 'great britian' we are britian, not great!

[InsaneApache]

We used to get snow like this a couple of times a year when I was a kid, nobody batted an eyelid. The trains ran, the buses ran, nobody stayed off work and all the schools opened. (Much to my dismay)

In fact my brothers and I had sledges in the outhouse that we got out every year. Towards the end of my schooling the headmaster would read the riot act about throwing snow(ice?)balls at people as, I quote, "You might take someones eye out with that!" :shame:

Nowt new there then.

I just wish my grumpy old man antenna was a bit more finely tuned and I'd had the gumption to report all those criminal teenagers chucking snow about. :whip:

I must pay more attention in future. :yes:

I forgot this. One of my first jobs was on a building site, sometimes it was that cold we had to scrap the shovels and use pickaxes to dig holes. It warmed you up anyway. One of the things we used to do was chuck snowball at each other, paying particular attention to the chargehand. :laugh4: Except that for him we used to put little stones inside so that it smarted when it hit him. :laugh4:

One joke we pulled one particularly snowy day was when we hid his motorbike. He had to go into town for summat or other and we seized our chance. Getting the block and tackle we hooked up said motorcycle and raised it about 20 feet into the air and manoeuvred it into the branches of a tree. You should have seen his face when he got back! He wasn't a happy chappy. He started shouting at us, so we pelted him with (aggregate ridden) snowballs.

It took him yonks to get his bike out. :laugh4:

[LittleGrizzly]

As long as you crush the snow tight enough you get a pretty hard 'ball' anyway, my one friend has an awesome throw on him, he's got a great aim and he gets a hell of a lot of power into it, the snowball will suddenly curl into you sharply building up speed throughout the curl, even with jeans on you can really feel it if he hits you in the leg...

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I rather feel that misses the point, causing actual pain is not really what I call fun.

FYI, you can tell your teacher that "Britain" is geographically incorrect, because Britannia is the main island, "Greater Britannia" is the whole bunch, including Ireland really.Of course these days we don't usually point that last bit out. :beam:

[InsaneApache]

The term Great Britain is used to differentiate between Brittany and the island to the north. Nothing to do with propaganda or jingoism.

Your teacher is an idiot who should know better. It's amazing that they let these cretins loose on kids. No wonder an A level is the equivalent of the 11+ these days. :dizzy2:

[Adrian II]

The term Great Britain is used to differentiate between Brittany and the island to the north. Nothing to do with propaganda or jingoism.Nope. If you were right, it would be called Greater Britain. But then you never are.
Your teacher is an idiot who should know better. It's amazing that they let these cretins loose on kids. No wonder an A level is the equivalent of the 11+ these days. :dizzy2:And they call me grumpy. :laugh3:
I rather feel that misses the point, causing actual pain is not really what I call fun.Are you a girl? Boys between age 5 and 18 are constantly testing their own limits as well as those of others, animals and inanimate objects. It's their way of exploring and conquering the physical world and building prowess. The best snowball fights I remember were those in high school when some of us were actually bleeding afterwards in class from the effect of 'iceballs' as we called them.

Ah, the good old days - before everybody got 'sentitive' about kids, animals, family values, smoking, fatty foods and all that bovine excrement.

[InsaneApache]

Nope. If you were right, it would be called Greater Britain. But then you never are.

I stand in awe at your intellectual prowess. Oh hang on...


Great Britain is the term used for the island containing the contiguous nations¹ of England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is used to distinguish Britain from Brittania Minor, or Brittany, in France

http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/home/scotland/britain.html

It's not often you're right, however you're wrong again. :whip: :laugh4:

[Strike For The South]

It's all England to me ~;)

This thread makes me want to make a snowball. I feel like my childhood was somehow robbed because I didn't make on of these things. We used to play in the dirt and cactus. :shame:

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Nope. If you were right, it would be called Greater Britain. But then you never are.And they call me grumpy. :laugh3:Are you a girl? Boys between age 5 and 18 are constantly testing their own limits as well as those of others, animals and inanimate objects. It's their way of exploring and conquering the physical world and building prowess. The best snowball fights I remember were those in high school when some of us were actually bleeding afterwards in class from the effect of 'iceballs' as we called them.

Ah, the good old days - before everybody got 'sentitive' about kids, animals, family values, smoking, fatty foods and all that bovine excrement.

Turns out IA was right and I was wrong, oops. Actually, it would be "Brittania Maior" in Latin I believe, which is Greater Britain to go with Lesser Britain. Given that it has been about 1500 years since anyone said that in everyday conversation, however, it's not surprising it's been shortened really.

Oh, and I'm not a girl, I just don't like gratuitous violence, if I want to prove myself manly I shall chop down a tree.

[InsaneApache]

A lumberjack eh? We all know how that turned out.

:laugh4:

[Adrian II]

It's not often you're right, however you're wrong again. :whip: :laugh4:I forgot to mention your lack of humour which explains a lot. :whip:

Anyhoo, always glad to debate someone as grumpy as myself. How was it for you?

Oh wait, you never knew you were being had.. :mellow:

[LittleGrizzly]

Your teacher is an idiot who should know better. It's amazing that they let these cretins loose on kids. No wonder an A level is the equivalent of the 11+ these days.

Ya know i think he might have just been making a little joke about the state of the country... but out of interest what economics did you study at the age of 11 ?

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

A lumberjack eh? We all know how that turned out.

:laugh4:

Worse, a sheep farmer.

Ironic really, given that I live with a Welsh girl.

[InsaneApache]

I forgot to mention your lack of humour which explains a lot. :whip:

Anyhoo, always glad to debate someone as grumpy as myself. How was it for you?

Oh wait, you never knew you were being had.. :mellow:

You got caught with your pants down. Live with it.

[Papewaio]

Worse, a sheep farmer.

Ironic really, given that I live with a Welsh girl.

I think ironic would be being a pig farmer and living with a Jewish or Muslim girl...

Sheep and Welsh go together like lamb and mint. :laugh4:

:creep: Just joking mum :wales:.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I think ironic would be being a pig farmer and living with a Jewish or Muslim girl...

Sheep and Welsh go together like lamb and mint. :laugh4:

:creep: Just joking mum :wales:.

Well yes, except this particular welshwoman is verging on vegetarian.

[InsaneApache]

In that case you've got more in common with the sheep then you realised. :laugh4:

[Banquo's Ghost]

Well yes, except this particular welshwoman is verging of vegetarian.

It's my understanding that very few girls in Wales remain verging for very long. :evil:

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I'm shcoked, really I am.

Sir, I challenge your understanding. I believe you are confusing mountain girls with city girls, she is a mointain girl.

[Banquo's Ghost]

Deletes obvious punnery about mountain girls. :embarassed:

[Fisherking]

I'm shcoked, really I am.

Sir, I challenge your understanding. I believe you are confusing mountain girls with city girls, she is a mointain girl.


Did I miss something here?

Is this like a Will and Grace relationship or something?

:laugh4:

She is Welsh, but you love the sheep???:dizzy2:

So that was your irony!:idea2:



:clown::beam:

[Adrian II]

Regardless of who mounts sheep and who mounts girls, all bets are off as soon as it starts to snow over there. To an outsider this, um, verges on the improbable.

[Major Robert Dump]

I thought this thread was about a new album by the rapper Snow. Pfffft

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Deletes obvious punnery about mountain girls. :embarassed:

Ouch, didn't even see that one coming. :laugh4:


Did I miss something here?

Is this like a Will and Grace relationship or something?

:laugh4:

She is Welsh, but you love the sheep???:dizzy2:

So that was your irony!:idea2:



:clown::beam:

She comes from the Welsh mountains, which is an area with more sheep than people, yet I am the one who grew up bottle feeding lambs.

Nevermind. Just for clarity when I said "live with" I meant in a non relationship, non sexual way.

Yeesh, you guys have filthy minds. It's like being surrounded by soldiers.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Yeesh, you guys have filthy minds. It's like being surrounded by soldiers.

And you know what "being surrounded by soldiers" is like? ~;)

Sorry.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

It's rather like being here.

[Sigurd]

Back on topic...

How is life in the UK?
You sent those snow storms to us haven't you? :stare:

I have shovelled snow every day this week including today. It is too cold to salt, but the dry snow has sufficient traction anyway.
Today I am installing a furnace, I am not going to loose sleep over burning wood for heat. The workers are here and I have taken a day in my home office. I'll post a picture when they are finished.

edit: As promised:
https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/asleka/furnace_1.jpg

[LittleGrizzly]

How is life in the UK?

Not too bad... sun was out and everything yesterday...

You sent those snow storms to us haven't you? :stare:

:yes: From Russia, with love ~;)

[KukriKhan]

You guys are just spreading it around, eh? Took a coupl'a days from UK to here, but here are my foothills, 15 miles NE(&3500 feet up) from me. That white stuff on top! Wutzat??

https://jimcee.homestead.com/HomeSnow.jpg

[Pannonian]

You guys are just spreading it around, eh? Took a coupl'a days from UK to here, but here are my foothills, 15 miles NE(&3500 feet up) from me. That white stuff on top! Wutzat??

Concrete?

[Hosakawa Tito]

You guys are just spreading it around, eh? Took a coupl'a days from UK to here, but here are my foothills, 15 miles NE(&3500 feet up) from me. That white stuff on top! Wutzat??

https://jimcee.homestead.com/HomeSnow.jpg

More likely ash from all the brush fires. Most of our snowpack, except for the biggest drifts, melted off last week. Of course early Thursday morning we had 65+ mph winds that knocked out power for over 14 hours throughout the area. About 1 inch of rain during the day causing flooding around ice-jammed creeks, falling temperatures just before dark followed by 3-4 inches of snow overnight. In fact we had a Flood warning, High Wind warning and Lake Effect Snow warning all on the same day. A little something for everyone...and none of it good.~:wacko: