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Cute Wolf
02-06-2009, 11:28
This morning, I got a spam again (that didn't sorted as spam by my yahoo account, again and again)... and that mail has a link for something about my favourite foods: dogs.

Well, it was actually a choice of freedom for everyone to pick up what animals that they will eat, and they are just animals afterall, same as your pigs, cows, cats, monkeys, and chickens... but what I want to say is what they sent to me is extremely ill informed.... especially the pictures of the dog meat... eaten...

and here was the link:

Warning: disturbing images (http://www.aapn.org/fooddogs.html#In%20Yibin)
Yes, I understand that was some tactics of the western animal rights campaigners do against us, Asians, but I just want to inform you, that dogs was eaten in much cleaner condition much like you eating a lamb chop steak... I had some experience gutting dogs for food, and I just want to get your point, most of us does that in much cleaner condition... a good cook won't spoil the dog's spicy tastes because they are exsposing them to unsanitary condition...

I bet that their animal rights campaigners never taste dog meats themself, so they blame us for eating dogs and cats... I have some hindu friends, but they never complaining me on eating cows, and many muslim friends who never complain when I eat pigs in my lunchbox in classrom at breaktime... Just curious, why that men (that has no religious limitation on eating dogs) spamming my email account many - many times? (12 times!!!)?

note:
If some of you want, I will just take pictures of what actual dog meat steak looks like in a nice restaurants, roadside vendors, and homemade dog steak... soon, they are much more cleaner that you see on the animal's rights webpage (they only show you the dirty one, but I allready see the chicken slaughterhouse that much dirtier), and I will add the slaughtering process too if you want... (requires me to buy a live dogs on the market, but that only cost me some 50000 rupiahs (+/- 5 dollars) to get a bit larger than chicken puppy).

Fragony
02-06-2009, 11:31
If it's for dinner I'll eat it, what does it taste like? Yaya dog of course, but I mean similar

Cute Wolf
02-06-2009, 11:39
Well, if u re holland, you should try "rica-rica erwe" in Manado restaurants, or "sate anjing" in Batak restaurants... They are traditional culinary, so the animal rights group can't ban them from authentic Indonesian food (that was not Muslim's food)

They are hot and spicy (even without spices), and they has rough, but easy to bite and delicious texture... just like goats, with different smells...

Fragony
02-06-2009, 12:09
Holland is packed with indonesian restaurants should be easy. Goat sate is delicious much better then chicken and pork :yes:

Cute Wolf
02-06-2009, 12:20
And I suggest you to put the "sambel kacang" with more sweet soy sacuce before eating

LittleGrizzly
02-06-2009, 16:30
Eating dog is no different from cat, fish, cow or any other animal. I don't like seeing live dogs hung up by thier legs but i don't like seeing chickens battery farmed or many other cruelty's that we visit upon our future food.

Rhyfelwyr
02-06-2009, 16:41
Eating a dog just seems wrong and even sick to me, although I don't really know why, probably a cultural thing.

LittleGrizzly
02-06-2009, 16:46
Its because they're cute, furry and people are used to them as pets... though no-one seems to object on the same level to rabbits. Maybe its because we see dogs with some personality in them and we see them as human like, personally the only animal i morally object to eating is monkey/ape/gorilla, probably because of our genetic closeness and thier level of intelligence...

Rhyfelwyr
02-06-2009, 16:52
Maybe its because we see dogs with some personality in them

I think that's the issue. You know what they say a dog is mans best friend, you're not supposed to eat your mates. I wouldn't consider eating a rabbit either though.

Fragony
02-06-2009, 17:15
Eating a dog just seems wrong and even sick to me, although I don't really know why, probably a cultural thing.

Same here it kinda feels wrong but I would try it anyway. Different country different customs.

Lemur
02-06-2009, 18:41
You know what they say a dog is mans best friend, you're not supposed to eat your mates.
There's some real truth buried in there. Dogs co-evolved with us over at least fifteen thousand years, and they interact with us (http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/001944.html) on a level that no other domesticated animal can match. It's perfectly understandable why some people would get turned off at the thought of eating a creature that can read our facial expressions.

That said, I'd like to taste dog some day, just to know. I'll eat anything once.

Rhyfelwyr
02-06-2009, 18:47
There's some real truth buried in there. Dogs co-evolved with us over at least fifteen thousand years, and they interact with us (http://www.futurepundit.com/archives/001944.html) on a level that no other domesticated animal can match. It's perfectly understandable why some people would get turned off at the thought of eating a creature that can read our facial expressions.

That said, I'd like to taste dog some day, just to know. I'll eat anything once.

Wow I never knew they could read facial expressions. I don't think I would ever try eating a dog though... if I ever got one for a pet in the future I would feel too guilty every time I look at it.

In fact when I think about it I tend to place dogs on a higher platform than other animals.. maybe its just because they have such a unique role (along with cats) in human society?

Fragony
02-06-2009, 18:56
I'll eat anything once.

Would you eat a human being? I think I would try that as well.

tibilicus
02-06-2009, 19:07
Those Chinese are craaaaaaaaaaazy...

Also I think the issue with eating dogs is how intelligent they are and the fact you can tell quite easily from their appearance they're not designed to be prey of any kind.

shlin28
02-06-2009, 19:35
Don't forget the Koreans, Natives in the Arctic, Vietnamese etc

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with eating dogs - as long as they are not killed cruelly (a quick death) and not endangered, they are fine to eat. However, I would probably not eat any dog meat personally because I have never seen/visited anywhere in China that served dog meat. Plus all the Westernification that is going on in South East Asia will probably decrease the number of people who will actually eat dogs as they come around to the view that dogs are "men's best friend".

Fragony
02-06-2009, 19:36
Also I think the issue with eating dogs is how intelligent they are and the fact you can tell quite easily from their appearance they're not designed to be prey of any kind.

Pigs are very very smart, and we eat them

Reverend Joe
02-06-2009, 19:52
I was willing to eat a dog. And then I saw this. (http://www.aapn.org/images2/presseddog2.jpg)

That's ******* gross.

Emperor of Graal
02-06-2009, 20:10
Yuck!
Those images are horrible, I wouldn't eat it, but I'm more concerned about battery farming
poor chickens getting shoved into small cages living sad,sad little lives.
I would walk in there and smash them into tiny cages and make them have sad,sad little lives,
I don't those people that made that Idea its cruel and villainous....
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/picture.php?albumid=92&pictureid=814
Those chickens must be freed

shlin28
02-06-2009, 20:11
I was willing to eat a dog. And then I saw this.

I'm sure pigs, sheep and other eating animals will be strung up like that too. As for the fatness... all animals we eat are raised to be of a maximum weight possible so as to minimise costs but maximise returns.

A disgusting picture, true, but it simply reprsents what we don't see of dead animals (dead pigs, dead sheep, dead anything really), just because it is a dog doesn't make it special. I'm sure if you go to any old farm in a third-world country you would see the pretty much the same thing.

Lemur
02-06-2009, 20:29
I was willing to eat a dog. And then I saw this. (http://www.aapn.org/images2/presseddog2.jpg)

That's ******* gross.
How is that any worse than seeing any animal strung up for eating?


https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Lemurmania/chinatown-duck.jpg

LittleGrizzly
02-06-2009, 20:40
To be honest i find it far more shocking to have live dogs strung up by thier paws, the fact the dog is already dead makes it a bit of a mute matter (though there could be a slight issue with desecration of dead animal, the fact is we only care about people and really cherished pets in this regard)

I am happy for any animal to be eaten as long as it is treated humanely and it isn't an endangered species, though i remain a little unsure on our animal ancestors, im not sure if that based on anything logical, its is the only meat i would refuse purely on morale grounds (and of course human meat)

Lemur
02-06-2009, 20:51
Would you eat a human being?
That's pretty much where I'd draw the line. Besides, we already know what human tastes like, thanks to accounts of the Aztecs; they didn't call human beings "long pork" for no reason.

As I said, I am sympathetic to people who could not eat dog. Unlike every other animal on the planet, they co-evolved with us, affecting our evolution just as much as we affected theirs. They respond to our moods, and they shamelessly flatter us. That's what they've been bred to do. It's weird to take a creature that thinks you're the coolest person on earth and eat it.

I would also second LittleGrizzly's point, that how an animal lives is more important than what you do with it once it's dead. I like my meat as much as the next guy, but I try to buy from people who are not needlessly torturing their animals. Fortunately my wife is a chef with a good bit of spare time, so we've been able to source out good sources of meat.

shlin28
02-06-2009, 20:55
But pet dogs are eaten... dogs FARMED to be eaten is eaten. Its like people raising goldfish but also eating fish. Well, kinda like that anyway.

I don't and probably will not eat dog, but I just see eating dogs as a valid lifestyle choice.

Lemur
02-06-2009, 21:06
Last thought (I swear!):

Cows, sheep, chickens, goats, ducks and geese: herbivores.
Pigs: omnivores (although commercially raised pigs are functional vegetarians)
Dogs: carnivores

I think there might be good reasons why we don't eat carnivores ...

Pannonian
02-06-2009, 22:03
Yuck!
Those images are horrible, I wouldn't eat it, but I'm more concerned about battery farming
poor chickens getting shoved into small cages living sad,sad little lives.
I would walk in there and smash them into tiny cages and make them have sad,sad little lives,
I don't those people that made that Idea its cruel and villainous....

Those chickens must be freed
The only chicken farm I've been to, the chickens were allowed to run free in a wire-fenced enclosure, and while most of them were strutting around the yard, some hens were brooding eggs which we collected in the morning. On one occasion, we slaughtered a chicken for dinner, and I noted that the meat was tougher and stronger-tasting than the supermarket norm I was used to.

Rhyfelwyr
02-06-2009, 22:09
Harry Hill offers an interesting take on the matter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc5uyM4Q4dM&feature=related

||Lz3||
02-06-2009, 22:54
Lemur, Would you eat lemur? :inquisitive:

Reverend Joe
02-06-2009, 22:59
I'm sure pigs, sheep and other eating animals will be strung up like that too. As for the fatness... all animals we eat are raised to be of a maximum weight possible so as to minimise costs but maximise returns.

A disgusting picture, true, but it simply reprsents what we don't see of dead animals (dead pigs, dead sheep, dead anything really), just because it is a dog doesn't make it special. I'm sure if you go to any old farm in a third-world country you would see the pretty much the same thing.


How is that any worse than seeing any animal strung up for eating?

Why does nobody else see the abnormality of this? I can handle seeing strung-up animals. What's disgusting is seeing it smushed into a dog pancake. It's grotesquely distorted. Plus they haven't cut off the asshole so it's starkly visible.

I don't recall seeing pigs being made into giant pancakes.

Edit: this (http://www.aapn.org/images2/dog.jpg) is what I would consider normal. That looks appealing.

TevashSzat
02-06-2009, 23:37
Those Chinese are craaaaaaaaaaazy...


Correction:

Those Southern Chinese Peeps are craaaaaaaaazy..... Us northerners eat normal food and don't touch the more "exotic" stuff that the southerners eat.....


How is that any worse than seeing any animal strung up for eating?


https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Lemurmania/chinatown-duck.jpg

How can you not look at that and say delicious? Seriously, only a hardcore vegan can say peking duck is disgusting.

desert
02-06-2009, 23:38
Edit: this is what I would consider normal. That looks appealing.

For some reason, the first thing I thought when I saw that photo was "Lovecraft".

Also, didn't the Maya have seperate breeds of dogs, some for food, others to be kept as pets?
Or was it the Aztecs?

shlin28
02-06-2009, 23:43
Correction:

Those Southern Chinese Peeps are craaaaaaaaazy..... Us northerners eat normal food and don't touch the more "exotic" stuff that the southerners eat.....

Pah, the only thing I have eaten that is not normal is a snake (taste like a fried fish), a turtle (I hate it) and apparently a shark (I don't remember it but apparently I did). The Northerners on the other hand... they don't even eat rice :no:

Lemur
02-06-2009, 23:44
Not 100% sure, desert, but I think that was the Xolo (http://www.wikifido.com/page/Xoloitzcuintli?t=anon), the hairless dog that sweats and gets acne. Yum!

TevashSzat
02-06-2009, 23:47
Pah, the only thing I have eaten that is not normal is a snake (taste like a fried fish), a turtle (I hate it) and apparently a shark (I don't remember it but apparently I did). The Northerners on the other hand... they don't even eat rice :no:

Well I (born in Beijing) eat tons of rice. What you're think of is those people in like ShanXi.....

shlin28
02-06-2009, 23:48
LIEZ! LIEZ! The stereotype must be true! :clown:

Major Robert Dump
02-07-2009, 01:10
I want to say its the conditions, not the fact its a dog, that turns me off. But I've been to hog, chicken and lamb farms, was utterly disgusted, and I still eat all those.

The worst I ever saw was a video with some dogs or raccoons that were skinned alive and tossed into a truck to drive down to the butcher. the skinned animals all had tears in their eyes and were trying to get up and move out of the pile and out of the truck, but they couldn't find the strength because they were, ya know, skinned.

tibilicus
02-07-2009, 01:17
Pigs are very very smart, and we eat them

Ah, but we don't normally (well most of us) let pigs live with us in a human environment.

I have had a couple of dogs over the years and have treated them just like any other member of my family. I would send them to bed when I went, they would eat at the same time as I did and so on so forth.

Basically I would easily of given my life to save any of those dogs due to the fact I regarded them as a family member. I think the issue here is more a personnel thing. If I grew up in china for example and saw dogs as a mere food commodity I guess I would feel differently. I suppose we could also ask why is cannibalism so wrong? We as humans seem to have a habit of devouring and eating every other living being on earth so why not each other?

Fried human leg any one?

Lemur
02-07-2009, 02:29
The worst I ever saw was a video [...]
Yeah, um, do us all a favor and don't find that video and don't give us a link. Just reading the description makes me want to weep.

I'm still convinced there's probably a good reason we don't eat carnivores as a rule ...

desert
02-07-2009, 02:49
We're afraid that their carnivore buddies will take revenge and raid our settlements and devour our women and children, leading to a destructive cycle of endless warfare and untold brutality as both sides race to consume as many of the enemy species as possible. :dizzy2:

LittleGrizzly
02-07-2009, 02:49
I'm still convinced there's probably a good reason we don't eat carnivores as a rule ...

My guess if anything would be that they are too much muscle from chasing prey whereas some herbivores don't really move much so can be softer meat... though of course herbivores can still have predators, we generally protect them these days, i think herbivores are just probably tastier and cheaper to feed, i see nothing wrong with eating carnivores....

Fragony
02-07-2009, 06:10
Y
I'm still convinced there's probably a good reason we don't eat carnivores as a rule ...

Shark, eaten. Snake, gotcha. Croc, pwnd. Pike, catch my own I am a man. All carnivores.

Pannonian
02-07-2009, 08:09
Yeah, um, do us all a favor and don't find that video and don't give us a link. Just reading the description makes me want to weep.

I'm still convinced there's probably a good reason we don't eat carnivores as a rule ...
Because our meat generally comes from animals we can herd. Carnivores are too much of a rarity to rely on as a food source.

rasoforos
02-07-2009, 09:33
The black and white cat looks like Katiki, our cat :inquisitive: (check my albums to verify)

My mastery of Bahasa Melayu/Indonesia is almost entirely limited to food recipes and names of animals...

...I sometimes ask for 'Kucing goreng' or 'Kucing rendang' when my wife asks me what I want for dinner (jokingly). I also threat the cat that I will cook her with potatoes in the oven when she is being naughty. But that is as far as I will go...

...It is a social thing. We are naturally disgusted by the animals that are not on our 'to eat' things. I find eating 'pets' disgusting but then again I love rabbit and some pet rabbit owners are freaking out when they hear this (Nice plump pet rabbits look soooo tasty)

shlin28
02-07-2009, 17:25
The main opposition to eating dogs/cats are mainly because A. They are cute B.They are intelligent. and C. They are pets.

A and B also apply to many many other animals (How could people eat such cute things like a lamb? :no:), and C... well, those dogs are raised for meat, not pets. Its not like they steal pets from people so that they can eat them... (Well, obviously some unscruplus people would do that, but it certainly won't be the majority)

DemonArchangel
02-07-2009, 22:43
Correction:

Those Southern Chinese Peeps are craaaaaaaaazy..... Us northerners eat normal food and don't touch the more "exotic" stuff that the southerners eat.....



http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/963152/will_fried_scorpions_served_at_the.html

Fried scorpions. In Beijing.

Thermal
02-08-2009, 01:28
Eating a dog just seems wrong and even sick to me, although I don't really know why, probably a cultural thing.

Same, it looks horrible, mainly because there a common pet in the UK, if a chicken was a common pet we would think of it differently too.

I had a horrible email about the seal hunting, and pictures of there brains squashed in on some ice, that was 10x as disturbing.

Cute Wolf
02-08-2009, 06:00
I just upload my fried dog pictures, homemade fried dog meat!... mine is much cleaner and you'll notice it was no diffrent from fried lamb, goat or pigs.... I just wait for it to be available...

rasoforos
02-08-2009, 08:51
HomerSimpson

MMMM...Anjing Goreng...arghhhh

/HomerSimpson


I just upload my fried dog pictures, homemade fried dog meat!... mine is much cleaner and you'll notice it was no diffrent from fried lamb, goat or pigs.... I just wait for it to be available...

Sir Beane
02-08-2009, 20:11
For some reason, the first thing I thought when I saw that photo was "Lovecraft".

Also, didn't the Maya have seperate breeds of dogs, some for food, others to be kept as pets?
Or was it the Aztecs?

Many South American civilizations bred dogs for both food and as pets. Chihuahua (sp.?) were certainly eaten by them. Not sure about seperate breeds though.

I can understand why many people would not want to eat dog, but I myself wouldn't have a problem with it. Unless that dog was a Border Collie, but I'm silly like that. :tongue:

It's true that dogs are intelligent, however it's a little known fact that pigs can be trained to be as intelligent as almost any species of dog. Yet very few people have a problem eating pork (except for religious reasons). Goats are the same. I have known several goats during my lifetime and all of them had just as much personality and intelligence as a dog.

Dogs have evolved with mankind, but so have cows, sheep, pigs, goats, horses, and chickens. All of these species only exist because we bred them like that. Dogs have been domesticated for the longest period of time, with goats coming in second.

The one difference is really the fact that western culture just does not see dogs as food. We aren't brought up to see them as a meal, but as a friend. Many asian cultures do not have this stigma, and find eating dog meat perfectly normal and easy.

It's all down to personal choice of course, and I won't look down on anyone not willing to scoff a puppy or two. But I do wish people would not attach negative racial stereotypes to consuming dog and cat meat.

Hax
02-08-2009, 20:36
I refuse to see the difference between eating dogs, pork, chicken or goat.

I don't eat meat in any way. Isn't this backroom-ish, though?

Lemur
02-08-2009, 20:53
Good question, Hax. The Backroom is for politics, religion, and other subjects that are too hot for the rest of the Org. Eating dog is right on the cusp. So long as we don't get too political or religious about it, I see no reason why we can't discuss extreme cuisine right here.

Since the Backroom is opt-in only, moving a topic back there limits participation in a small but meaningful way. When possible and appropriate, I like to keep threads out where everyone can participate.

(But you can probably already guess that Hosa and I had a convo when this thread surfaced about whether we should slip it into the Backroom right away.)

||Lz3||
02-09-2009, 03:01
I have the link mentioned somewhere before... about the animals getting skinned alive..

They are actually being skinned to sell their furs, the ones who do that don't even eat them.

If anyone is interested... ask by PM


It really makes you an anti-fur guy...

woad&fangs
02-09-2009, 03:28
meats I've tasted
cow-delicious
pig-delicious in bacon or pulled pork form
chicken-decent, but commercial chicken is too bland
turkey- delicious
duck-even better than turkey
goose-not worth the cost compared to duck/turkey. Goose summer sausage is awsome though.
rabbit-delicious in stew
squirrel-also delicious in stew
deer- 10X more delicious than cow in every form
bear- way too much fat and a subpar flavor
moose- same as the bear but with an even worse flavor
panfish- yummy
Salmon- awsome when deboned
game/sea fish- okay
tuna- good but I feel guilty when I eat it too often
shrimp- the best food available on this planet

Meats I'd like to try
dog- I hear they're spicy
horse- supposedly make a really tender steak
crow- If I shoot one I'll eat it.
edit: can't shoot a feral cat legally.

Lemur
02-09-2009, 04:36
What, you've never eaten goat? Shame on you.

Also, how can dog be "spicy"? Unless you fed it jalapeno peppers its entire life, I don't see how that's possible. The spicy stuff happens during the cooking process.

Cute Wolf
02-09-2009, 07:06
I couldn't find my fried dogs picture.... anyone else find em...?


MMMM...Anjing Goreng...arghhhh

nope.... they are commonly called erwe goreng or asu goreng..... we usually use "Anjing" to refer to dogs breed as pets... the word Anjing is only commonly used in Sate anjing.... (the authentic indonesian dog culinary). erwe is use instead if u refer to fried dog meat...:beam:

Ibrahim
02-09-2009, 07:45
What, you've never eaten goat? Shame on you.

Also, how can dog be "spicy"? Unless you fed it jalapeno peppers its entire life, I don't see how that's possible. The spicy stuff happens during the cooking process.

he also left sheep out.

sheep is awesome.:yes:

I'm pork's worst foe though.

Cute Wolf
02-09-2009, 07:55
@ ibrahim....
have u eat ostrich allready? they are halal.... and most of my muslim friends consider them fantastic delicacy... their backside is they are exspensive here...

Emperor of Graal
02-09-2009, 08:00
Who wants to eat dogs
who the hell made that idea

LittleGrizzly
02-09-2009, 10:48
Who wants to eat dogs
who the hell made that idea

Same crazy people who decided to start eating cows, chickens, and sheep...

Askthepizzaguy
02-09-2009, 16:40
The more intelligent a creature is, the less I enjoy the thought of eating it.

That being said, I do enjoy beef steaks. I think that cow herds eating up all the grasses all across the plains of the country are delicious food when they keel over and die... so it's mostly the slaughtering, not the eating, which disturbs me. I especially hate kosher-whatever slaughtering processes... whichever method is the least painful to the animal to prevent suffering, that's the right method. If cows didn't live so long, I might advocate letting them live out most of their lives and then getting them when they are old and ready to keel over, and just doing nature's work for her and whacking the cow... thereby making beef.

But starving people are the overriding concern, to me. I freely admit I am "species-ist"; I believe in the value of human life over all others, barring things like serial killers or rapists, etc... for example, I probably wouldn't risk my life to save a dog, unless I were reasonably sure the risk was minimal and the dog was a really good dog. I guess what I am saying is that no matter how gruesome the slaughtering of a cow or chicken is, I would prefer that to the starving deaths of any innocent human beings.

I'd toss a hundred cows into a blazing inferno to save one person's life, were that ever a choice. The only difference would be if someone had to give their life to figure out how to solve some kind of deadly cattle plague which threatened the entire stock, everywhere... people sometimes should be willing to give it all to save a food resource for others.

Boy am I getting sidetracked.

I would never, ever, eat a person. Not even to stay alive. No cannibalism under any circumstances. I would never eat an ape or monkey or other primate. I'm not a big fan of eating dolphin or wolf or dog or cat or other highly intelligent animal. I don't eat pigs that often but they are delicious. Since I'm addicted to eating steaks on special occasions I would not want to stop.

I am conflicted about it, in some respects. But I have to eat, and I'm not going to eat fruit for the rest of my life. We and the animals we evolved from are omnivorous, carnivorous creatures. We eat what we can catch and turn into a meal. We have sharp teeth for eating meat for a reason. A diet without meat needs to be supplemented with other proteins and I don't expect the entire world to eat beans everyday. There aren't enough beans for that.

On a planet with millions of starving people, some of whom see a zebra or whatever trotting around, feel their hungry stomachs growl, look at the spear in their hand, and consider their children who need food, I find it blatantly hypocritical to suggest that people should not eat meat. Some people don't have enough banana leaves or whatever to survive on, and need to feed their family protein, and don't have access to a bean farm. In the wild, in the jungle, animals eat one another. That's life.

I cannot ever suggest that a single person stop eating meat. But I also find cannibalism to be unconscionable, and eating primates to be disgusting and disturbing for similar reasons. Whales, dolphins, most intelligent mammals, I'm just not a fan of eating. But I was fed beef as a child and it tastes good and is raised for food, and cows would not survive in the wild without being mauled by bears or wolves or whatever predator would feast on them. They owe their numbers and their dedicated grazing land to human care, otherwise they would go extinct as civilization encroaches on their land. It's probably in their best interests to be food animals at this point, just like chickens. I doubt chickens would last long in the wild.

People develop close relationships with certain animals or animal types, so it's difficult to butcher them. You become more aware of the death and the suffering you're inflicting and it's hard to bear. At the end of the day, however, you have to look at the human being as a predator, evolved to be such. I don't think it's unnatural to eat prey animals, which would be eaten by other predators anyway, and we have mouths to feed.

I am not going to be grazing alongside the cows when my death comes... I'll have a belly full of steak instead. If I were mauled and eaten by a hungry bear, that's life, not something evil. A hawk grabs a field mouse and eats it... that's life. dolphins eat fish, that's life. Some animals eat their young, or eat their mates. Nature accepts a lot of strange things.

Personally, I think that the bottom line is, if necessary, all animals are fair game, but I'd prefer that certain animals not get eaten, and humans should never be. Our cultural differences make us question each other on the dog/pig/cow issues but I would think most non-vegetarians agree that animals are going to be used for food, and as long as the process is not unnecessarily suffering for the animal, it should be ok. Endangered species should be left alone, too.

Yak, yak, yak. Ok done yapping now.

seireikhaan
02-09-2009, 17:38
Best meat I've ever had is buffalo. I can see why people nearly hunted it to extinction.

Ibrahim
02-09-2009, 18:04
@ ibrahim....
have u eat ostrich allready? they are halal.... and most of my muslim friends consider them fantastic delicacy... their backside is they are exspensive here...

I'm well aware that its ok to eat 'em. problem is there expensive everywhere (Kuwait, US, Canada, etc).

but I'll try to get one fro dinner someday.:yes:

Emperor of Graal
02-09-2009, 19:05
Same crazy people who decided to start eating cows, chickens, and sheep...
Suppose
It was the pioneering cooks that gave us that but
Scorpions, and stick insects :shocked3:
SCARY IMAGE
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/picture.php?albumid=92&pictureid=829
Wormgetti and Eyeballs anyone?

Askthepizzaguy
02-09-2009, 19:07
That image is nearly as disturbing as my new signature line.

Fragony
02-09-2009, 19:13
That is one nicelooking pizza, never go cheap on the mozarella

Askthepizzaguy
02-09-2009, 19:16
I was inspired by your signature, Fragony. I like it, it brings a smile to my face.

As for myself-
If we have a chance to shamelessly self-promote, I want to be as loud and as glaring to the eye as possible. It should be a reflection of me; overstuffed with cheesy jokes, spicy references, and saucy innuendo, makes your mouth water and leaves you craving more.

Fragony
02-09-2009, 19:50
Rub me right there very effective :laugh4:

Emperor of Graal
02-09-2009, 20:03
:focus:stay on Topic

||Lz3||
02-09-2009, 23:12
Would you have a cow as a pet? :inquisitive:

No?, well somethings aren't meant to be eaten...

GoreBag
02-10-2009, 01:22
eet mor dagues

White_eyes:D
02-10-2009, 02:36
I would not eat dog....and that's that......they stink......and I much prefer Rabbit....or Duck.....and wasn't there that study, that a cat would eat it's human master but the Dog would just starve to death with it's master...??? bad choice to eat something so loyal....:juggle2::thumbsdown:

LittleGrizzly
02-10-2009, 02:43
but... Cats are sooooo damn cute!

White_eyes:D
02-10-2009, 02:46
but... Cats are sooooo damn cute!

I live by the motto "I eat what would ever think of eating me.....:clown:"

LittleGrizzly
02-10-2009, 04:32
Ever considered trying cannibal... its a delicacy!

Beefy187
02-10-2009, 04:45
Ignore me

Emperor of Graal
02-10-2009, 08:42
Whale meat is sold.
Japanese people come and kill them.
There has been clashes between protesters.
The Whalers even threw concussion grenades at them.

Beefy187
02-10-2009, 08:46
Theres nothing to see here

Fragony
02-10-2009, 11:01
Nor here

Beefy187
02-10-2009, 11:06
That is true. I so didn't mean it :wall:

Editing post

My apologies for those who were offended

Upxl
02-10-2009, 23:53
Wow I never knew they could read facial expressions. I don't think I would ever try eating a dog though... if I ever got one for a pet in the future I would feel too guilty every time I look at it.

In fact when I think about it I tend to place dogs on a higher platform than other animals.. maybe its just because they have such a unique role (along with cats) in human society?

Same here.
I have a great lust for all kinds of food beer,wine’s,…and would also eat anything at least ones.
But not dog.

According to the big 5 or “ocean” human character dimensions are: Openness - Conscientiousness - Extroversion - Agreeableness – Neuroticism.
These 5 can only be found in humans.
Very few animal species have any of these.
With dogs all these have been established but one; Conscientiousness (awareness of duty).

For the mind (my mind) eating dog is way to close to cannibalism.

Cant and wont ever eat dog!

Cute Wolf
02-11-2009, 02:02
suppose a case of diffrent culture, who rarely kept dogs as pets, found cats are just annoying pests, and most of the people kept rooster instead as pets.... but they still eat rooster because they're delicious.... hmm..... Personally, I don't believe dogs are human's best friends... that's true they are loyal to their masters, but I believe all of you will be insulted if someone yelled to call you... "Hey you,... dog!... come here dog!"... that's the proof that dogs aren't human's best friends.

*) even if I change to cat, chicken, pigs, cows, goats, monkey,.... u will still upset isn't?:laugh4: so they are eatable anyway (as long as u didn't had any religious restriction...


BTW, how to stop these PETA / AAF / DrDog / or any animal - friendly organization... to spamming your email? they're simply annoying.......:wall:

LittleGrizzly
02-11-2009, 02:19
Tell them for every mail they send you, you enjoy a nice roast dog...

Cute Wolf
02-11-2009, 02:49
I allready marked them as Spam, and dump them to trashes, but they springs up with diffrent bunch of email adress...... which has subjects such as "Important things to remember" "From your friends with love" and even indonesian subjects "Berita penting bagi Mahasiswa" and "Teman baik yang ingin bertemu".....

Now I want to catch one of them, tied and force them to eat fried dogs and cats....... hope them realise that deliciousness.....

Reverend Joe
02-11-2009, 03:18
(H)ow can dog be "spicy"?
I actually find a whole well-cooked pork roast to be fairly "spicy," as it has a strong flavor, and the addition of just a little ground black pepper makes it very spicy.

I would imagine, then that dog is fairly spicy in the same way.