Post your favourite full-stack here! [Archive]

Ibrahim

02-13-2009, 23:27

No rules :beam:

https://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1645/fullstacktd3.jpg

wo! dude. that is creepy.:inquisitive:

well, all my eb armies are ok, but none is really distinctive, as I follow a uniform organization. my best army was in IBFD, ERE. that one was awesome!

but here it is for me:

1X general
2Xhetairoi or hellenikoi kataphraktoi
1Xprodromoi
5Xpezhetairoi
1XArgyraspidai
2Xthorakitai
1Xpeltastai (or p.Makedonoioi)
1Xthorakitai basilikou Agematos
1X elephantes kataphraktoi indikoi (just to show off-besides, they are not bad at all)
2X archers (persian or Syrian is ideal, bur Kretikoi are welcome)
3X supernumurary troops (extra cavalry, extra infantry, siege weapons, etc. depend on wat I want to do)

all are minimum of 2 bronze chevrons, and minimal weapons and armor upgrade, as I will not mount an offensive in any other way.

and if you haven't figured it out, this is an AS army.

Aemilius Paulus

02-14-2009, 00:18

S
no Romans please =P

Umm, I do not believe you can discriminate like that. How would you feel if I said "No Hellenes please"? I have only played the Romani for enough time in EB. All the rest of the factions I have went no further than 250 BCE. So, are the Romani OK, and was that a joke, or are you serious about what you said?

A Very Super Market

02-14-2009, 04:40

I think the Roman hate, or any other faction hate is getting out of hand. It's fun to jokingly egg them about, but why would you leave members out of participating in a harmless thread?

Unless you're joking, in which case, this post would be pointless :P

satalexton

02-14-2009, 06:53

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/satalexton/Yellowfever.jpg My ramshackle stack of yellow fever =P
I love those jews, they serve as fodder, flankers, plug gaps in lines, anti-cavalry...and more! The galatikoi are my killers =P and the thorakitai and thessalikoi serve to hold the left flank.

aww, poor little romans...=P ur allowed to post your armies...but u know ur not gonna get nominated =P

Ignopotens

02-14-2009, 08:28

man satalexton, that's a stack I'd never want to see headed my way, regardless who I was

Wausser

02-14-2009, 08:55

The defenders of Baktra

https://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2571/baktrazn8.jpg

Megas Pyrrhos

02-15-2009, 19:36

My Italo-Epirote defense force stationed in Magna Graeca, 225 B.C. :

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/aec3b5c37f.jpg

And those aren't thorakitai hoplitai, they're my hysteroi hoplitai, essentially heavy hoplites turned into pseudo-legionary copies due to the fact that somehow the romans have gotten post-marian troop barracks well before the due time (it's 225 B.C in my campaign), and that my phalanxes haven't done so well in the rough terrain of Italia. Must of modified something and the romans got way advanced before they have any business being so. So far, I haven't seen any marian troops, just the buildings.

antisocialmunky

02-15-2009, 20:56

I once saw a Seleucid stack of nothing but double silver TABs and Silver Shields. Yeah EB + Alex = Massed Auto Calc Experience * Retraining...

It wandered east thankfully.

Husker98

02-15-2009, 21:51

I once saw a Seleucid stack of nothing but double silver TABs and Silver Shields. Yeah EB + Alex = Massed Auto Calc Experience * Retraining...

It wandered east thankfully.

makes you wonder who the poor sucker was who was on the recieving end of that armies furry lol

cultist

02-16-2009, 00:18

"It is with great reluctance that I have agreed to this calling. I love democracy. I love the (Roman) Republic" - Senator Palpatine

I think my fellow colleague satalexton was joking around with the "no Romans please";notice the smaller letters used.

My favorite full stack is the standard Roman Republic one that i use:
1x General
1x Eqvites Romani
2x Principes
2x Hastasti
2x Triarii
1x Accensi
1x Rorarii
1x Allied General
1x Eqvites Extraordinarii
2x Hastasti Samniticii
2x Samnitici Milites
2x Pedites Extraordinarii
2x Recruited ranged mercs
I use variations depending on where i am but only to the "allied" part of my army:
2 units of heavy cavalry
2 light infantry
2 heavy infantry
2 spearmen (i just love to use those light hoplites for both spearmen and light infantry)
2 ranged units (usually heavy greek peltasts)
That is my dream team.

In closing:

"The powers you give me I will lay down when this crisis has be abated! My first act, with this new authority, is to create a Grand Army of the Republic, to counter the increasing threat of the Separatists (Carthaginians)" - Senator Palpatine

Thank you

PS: my accomplishments with this army conquered the whole italic peninsula and most of the Carthaginian territory (without the Iberic colonies),wordy adversaries,i just could not raze Carthage from the ground,neither throw salt on the site,since salt is so expensive these days :P,simply interdicted their writing system,throwing them into slavery,brainwashing their kids to our side of the history etc.So peaceful methods only.I dont even want to think about the Gauls,since they will be punished swiftly for sacking Rome,but this time just because i have superior units,i hope they will put up at least some fight.
The only thing i fear is a horse archer army,that will show in the later days of my EB campaign.

Nachtmeister

02-16-2009, 03:38

You will then *learn* to fear their disgusting sequoia thickets.
Gaul is full of those. No fun.

soup_alex

02-16-2009, 11:06

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/alexbassist/Hamalcar.png
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/alexbassist/xanthippos.png
Hamalcar Barca
Xanthippos (Spartiati Hoplitai)
1x Parasim Libi-Ponnim
1x Parasim Ezra'him Ponnim
2x Equites Caetrati
2x (Misthoporoi) Phalangitai
1x Dorkim Libi-Ponnim
1x Dorkim Balearim
2x Qala'im Balearim
2x Qasatim Numidim
2x Akontistai

This army marched into Italy a few years back and has been holding the border at Capua and Arpi since then (the Cretan Mercenaries are a recent addition after the Numidian archers got stuck in with some Triarii and Pedites in the last sally).

Hamalcar is a capable sort of fellow; I'd probably have marched him into Rome by now but concentrated on building infrastructure in allied Africa rather than recruiting and retraining reinforcements.
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/alexbassist/hmlcr1.png

cultist

02-16-2009, 14:30

Such a small army;yet you managed to take Capua with it,you must be a good tactician mate.
Keep up the good work,its only fair :wink:

gamegeek2

02-16-2009, 15:59

This has inspired me to quit Broken Crescent for a while. However, I am too lazy to update my AAR today. I will keep working on the next update over the week. I don't feel so well, either :(

IrishHitman

02-16-2009, 15:59

My early grand armées generally look like this:
1 x Strategos
9 x Phalanx (Medium-Elite mix)
2-4 x Companions
2-4 x Thessalians
2 Cretans
Varying Mercs (Hoplites or South Gallics preferred)

I do exactly what Alexander did.
Weaken them with ranged weapons, pin them with phalanx troops, enclose them with the hoplites and melee mercenaries, and smash them into a rout with cavalry.

Mister V

02-16-2009, 17:17

I like to play battles when they're either a challenge or just cool, so I like to play with late elite stuff.
My favourite from the AS campaign was
1xGeneral
2xHetairoi
4xKataphraktoi
4xArgyraspidai
2xKlerouchoi Phalangitai (or another random phalanx)
4xThorakitai Agematos Basilikou
2xHypaspistai (or Thureophoroi in some cases)
...all this with gold chevrons.
Honestly I didn't even bother with skirmishers of any kind, the javelins my infantry throws are usually enough. Before you ask, I didn't try fighting the eastern nomad factions with this yet, it's for the western theatre.

soup_alex

02-16-2009, 20:55

Such a small army;yet you managed to take Capua with it,you must be a good tactician mate.
Thanks, but I don't know about that (this is versus the AI, remember!). Most of the fighting for Capua took place outside the walls, and the Romans lost at least two small forces (and perhaps a consul, I think) to ambushes in the forests just south of the city. Hamalcar's greatest tactical stroke so far, though, was wiping out an army near the settlement in Brettia and the garrison that had come to reinforce it, and then walking cool as damnit into the defenceless town, taking it with no greater complications than pulling down the local barracks.

Typical Romans! ~:P

Vasiliyi

02-18-2009, 18:05

Yes, i do play a hellenic faction. AS is an awesome faction to play for non-stop action. (that rhymes)

https://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5802/fullstackup0.jpg

Royal army of Theodorus Syriakas and his son

athanaric

02-18-2009, 18:23

Hey Soup Alex, how did you get this Xanthippos guy? I'm asking because I've seen him or perhaps another Spartan serving the Qarthadastim AI and I thought it was a bug. Also, when I started a Carthaginian campaign, there was no trace of Spartans in my army.

Vasiliyi's stack looks really evil. It lacks some light cavalry though, IMHO.

Vasiliyi

02-18-2009, 18:27

Baah! My hetaroi do their job well! Im still deciding what to put in the last 3 slots. If its going to be a true royal army, i think 1 armored elephant and 2 elite heavy infantry. But im not sure yet.

athanaric

02-18-2009, 19:11

Yeah but you might get problems chasing enemy cavalry. Seeing that you're going all-elite, why do you still use normal Sphendonetai? Surely you should have Rhodian Slingers by now?

Add armoured Elephants and nobody will want to fight your army:laugh4: The AI armies will run away (happened to me sometimes).

soup_alex

02-18-2009, 19:51

Hey Soup Alex, how did you get this Xanthippos guy?
I'm fairly sure it was a scripted event (and a fortuitous one at that, given that Rome had just declared war on me... although perhaps that was part of the trigger?). I'm playing 1.1 by the way, so I don't know if it's changed since.

As I say, it was around 255 BC (give or take) and Rome had just declared war by marching on Messana. Up pops the advisor on turn start, telling me that some Spartan punk says we've been losing to the Romans (yeah, right! We've never fought them before now!) because our tactics suck. You're given a choice between sending him back to Sparta (historical, according to the Year in History report; although according to the YiH this should have happened a year or more before it did) or accepting him as a non-FM general, and I didn't see the point in passing up a free general. Not that he's great, as it turns out, but has fair potential to gain Command stars and his Spartans are a mean little unit on the field with a few ancilliaries.

athanaric

02-18-2009, 19:59

I'm fairly sure it was a scripted event (and a fortuitous one at that, given that Rome had just declared war on me... although perhaps that was part of the trigger?). I'm playing 1.1 by the way, so I don't know if it's changed since.

Thank you. Messana, you say? That's funny. When I last saw this guy used by the AI, he was campaigning in Phasania (in the Saharan desert):laugh4:

soup_alex

02-18-2009, 21:37

Thank you. Messana, you say? That's funny. When I last saw this guy used by the AI, he was campaigning in Phasania (in the Saharan desert):laugh4:
Well, he spawns in Kart-Hadast. Historically, I suppose, he would be fighting for Carthage against Rome, but you know how the AI likes to actually use ships to move troops... (or even build ships, seriously—I'd forgotten how different Rome was to MiNO, where a strong navy is important to many factions. I'm seriously considering installing BI or Alex and the minimod. Is the AI really that much better?)

Ludens

02-21-2009, 16:47

BI does not: the only difference is that the A.I. can and will use naval invasions, but necessarily in the way you might want. For example, when playing with the KH, the Romani will often try to take Corinth, even though they have other enemies nearby and no hope of retaining it. I haven't tried alex.exe yet.

BurningEGO

02-21-2009, 19:33

https://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6397/seleucidstack.jpg (https://imageshack.us)

My Syrian Full stack, recently trained to kick some butt. The elephants are the real killers of my army. Dude, these guys ROCK. Still cant believe how some people say they suck. Oh and i didnt really use these machines before but i decided to test em out... Havent had an oportunity to try them though, since my army is on its long march towards Greece.

Battle tactic? Phalanxes usually in the front forming a long wide line, usually 3-4 rank deep, with cavalry on the right flank, and elephants usually behind them or in front, depending heavily if the enemy has missile units or not (if the enemy has missile units cavalry goes first, if they do not, elephants are the ones to go first). And Thorakitai while lacking proper stamina, make for excelent troops which job is to protect my flanks. I usually put 2 on each flank. Sometimes only 1 on the right flank and 3 on the left since the right flank already has cavalry+elephants in there. Archers i usually put either behind or in front of my phalanx, or on the far left side of my army since i always heard that archers did more damage on the left side (left side for you and right side for the enemy - the enemy in the right has no shields at all).

Zett

04-06-2009, 15:58

Aemilius Paulus

04-06-2009, 17:14

Wow. KH Reform phalanx. Not everyday you see that!

Anyway, playing with a pike phalanx always seems like cheating to me. Unless the enemy have heavy cavalry, you will pretty much pwn everything. Missile troops will waste their ammo on you, and the melee troops will stand right before your pikes, slowly getting ground to dust. No wonder people have such high-experience pike phalanxes. Just try to get my beloved Romani legionaries to that level of valour. Impossible without having to merge/retrain those blokes all the time. And since retraining is rarely an option, merging will have to suffice.

The EB pike phalanx is in a dire need of nerfing. No way it was that powerful. Unless vastly outnumbered on an open field or faced with a significant number of 33+ armour cavalry, my phalanx has never been defeated. It is not even fun. I also play with Eperios since AS, KH, and Makedonia have more elites than normal units. Once again, no challenge.

All that aside, my favourite stack is the all-Cordinau Orca one with one Romani general and three Mercenary Hellenic Generals. Also includes two units of Scythian Archers. It is my only all-elite stack and I have used it against the mighty Sweboz Empire and the Central European monster stacks. You would not believe how much experience those guys have and how badly the annihilate normal AI stacks.

Zett

04-06-2009, 17:36

I also play with Eperios since AS, KH, and Makedonia have more elites than normal units. Once again, no challenge.

Don't forget, that the Koinon Hellenon Phalangitai have a lower morale then their Pezhetairoi counterparts. If they engage another phalanx unit, you have to baysit them all the time.

But against non phalanx units...:laugh4:

How would satalexton say... something like "poor Roman pigs":laugh4:

But I think it should be easy to have silver stacks with Romans too. Just sit in your city and autoresolve and retrain every battle. After ten years you will have an "all-gold-stack". But that's cheating, I know.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_wRRcuep9rno/Sdoy4LQjd7I/AAAAAAAAAGs/eUOdk_PYUJM/s800/Massalia.jpg

Ceterum censeo Romam esse delendam

satalexton

04-06-2009, 18:06

that was BEAUTIFUL.

ALL HAIL HELLAS

here, has a balloon :balloon3: His name's Plato

Aemilius Paulus

04-06-2009, 18:30

Don't forget, that the Koinon Hellenon Phalangitai have a lower morale then their Pezhetairoi counterparts. If they engage another phalanx unit, you have to baysit them all the time.
Oh boy!!! How can you manage to win those battles?!? :laugh4::clown::clown:
A single well-placed heavy cav charge on the back of an engaged phalanx will usually rout Klerouchoi and Pantadapoi/Machimoi while two charges should crush Pezhetairoi and even the elite phalanxes such as the Silver Shields.

But against non phalanx units...:laugh4:

Heh, yeah. Slaughter.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_wRRcuep9rno/Sdoy4LQjd7I/AAAAAAAAAGs/eUOdk_PYUJM/s800/Massalia.jpg
Nice stack, but what a waste of chevrons on those Toxotai and Akontistai. Kretan Mercenaries and Thrakian Peltastai/Normal Peltasts should have taken those two types of units. Not to mention your army is in an unimaginably dire need of cavalry. I do not see how you can win a battle against an equal army (well, by now there is no AI army equal to yours I suppose; even Gaesatae will probably rout) with just infantry and not sustain grievous casualties. Just two units of inexperienced but decent cavalry is worth at least three of those Massalians, even with their chevrons.

Zett

04-06-2009, 18:53

Thanks satalexton:beam:

Just two units of inexperienced but decent cavalry is worth at least three of those Massalians, even with their chevrons.
How I said, its a city defence stack. So no cavalery needed.

Ceterum censeo Romam esse delendam

Aemilius Paulus

04-06-2009, 19:13

How I said, its a city defence stack. So no cavalery needed.

Wait so you actually did this: " sit in your city and autoresolve and retrain every battle. After ten years you will have an "all-gold-stack". But that's cheating, I know." ???
Heh, I thought you were just talking about a possible situation, not something you actually did. That is cheating. And not the the "fun" type of cheating either... Then again it depends on the person. So why did you do it?

Zett

04-06-2009, 19:53

Cause I had no intention to expand into gaul, so Massalia became my "western gate" of my empire. Sometimes I fought bridgebattles with this army (no autoresolve), but that got boring, so I ended with wall defences and they got boring...

I mean, fighting one battle against AS, one against Kart-Hadastim, one against Hayasdan, one against the Sauromatae (shooting horses with Thureopherontes Toxotai from walls never get boring), one against Lusotannan, one against rebelling Ptolemaioi and one against the Aedui (most are siegebattles) every second turn can get boring:sweatdrop:.

Ceterum censeo Romam esse delendam

Jebivjetar

04-07-2009, 10:17

Mediolanicus

04-07-2009, 11:06

This is my realistic army stack in my Pontos champaign. Its not my favourite, but its the one that has beaten Ptolies and AS in many occasions. Btw sorry for my bad english. Greetings from Croatia (im new here) :clown:

https://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6889/stackfull.th.jpg (https://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stackfull.jpg)

Welcome to the forums, Jebivjetar!

I really like your army composition! I like using realistically balanced armies too. It's looks like an army I would use too.

Don't apologizes for your English, it's fine. Besides, many here don't have English as their first language.
(And some who do have English as their first language write rather badly...)

Maion Maroneios

04-07-2009, 13:15

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_wRRcuep9rno/SdoWGol_AsI/AAAAAAAAAE0/6zubmNI0o2E/s800/Fav%20Stack.jpg

Thats my fav stack composition, but since the AS has startet to recruit hughe numbers of Kataphraktoi, I will soon use the to free slots for two extra Hippies Xystophoroi.

Ceterum censeo Romam esse delendam
Too many phalanxes dude, how do you protect your flanks?

@ Jebivjetar: Welcome to the fora dude! Here, have your first balloon: :balloon: Also, join my social group, the Romaioktonoi. Unless you are some damn Romani-fan :tongue:

Maion

Jebivjetar

04-07-2009, 14:13

@ Mediolanicus: thanks for your welcome. :beam:

@ Maion Maroneios: thanks to you, too! And for balloon, ofcourse! :2thumbsup:

satalexton

04-07-2009, 15:38

Too many phalanxes dude, how do you protect your flanks?

@ Jebivjetar: Welcome to the fora dude! Here, have your first balloon: :balloon: Also, join my social group, the Romaioktonoi. Unless you are some damn Romani-fan :tongue:

Maion

He can't help it, don't bully him. He IS a polis-krate afterall....

Zett

04-07-2009, 16:33

Too many phalanxes dude, how do you protect your flanks?
Maion

The problem with the AI is, that it nearly always attacks my flanks if I use two or more Thorakitai (or other flank protectors) for each flank. So I decided to use only one Thorakitai for my left flank and my General for my right flank. My right side is also my cavalery flank, so no additional flankprotectors needed.

https://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3145/kharmysetup.jpg (https://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kharmysetup.jpg)

Ceterum censeo Romam esse delendam