View Full Version : So... um... I guess my neighbors a drug dealer?
So I got a call from my mom today. Apparently she had seen special forces police officers wearing body armor with drug sniffing drugs reinforced by local police with shotguns, bust down my neighbors door and tear the house apart looking for something.
So... this leads me to believe how my unemployed neighbor who lives in an expense home and leeches off his wife gets by, is by selling drugs.
Just though I'd share.
Strike For The South
02-14-2009, 02:25
And you never got any good dope? Lame.
KukriKhan
02-14-2009, 02:41
And with "drug sniffing drugs", your Mom wasn't worried that you might be next?
No 'fense. :)
And with "drug sniffing drugs", your Mom wasn't worried that you might be next?
No 'fense. :)
I doubt they would waste their time on me. I don't sell drugs.
KukriKhan
02-14-2009, 02:53
I doubt they would waste their time on me. I don't sell drugs.
Good luck with that. :thumbsup:
Alexander the Pretty Good
02-14-2009, 05:12
Did they chop up the place with axes like in the Prohibition?
Crazed Rabbit
02-14-2009, 05:16
I doubt they would waste their time on me. I don't sell drugs.
Um...
Considering what they do to small time poker players (http://www.examiner.com/a-1821385~Poker_aficionados_watching_SC_Texas_Hold__em_case.html) with friends...
The typical police raid of these games ... is to literally burst into a home in SWAT gear with guns drawn and treat poker players like a bunch of high-level drug dealers," says Jeff Phillips, a Greenville attorney representing Chimento's group. "Using the taxpayers' resources for such useless Gestapo-like tactics is more of a crime than is playing of the game."
And what they do so very often with recreational pot users (http://www.thestate.com/local/story/682695.html)...
“He’s sitting there on Saturday, and 12 cops kick in the door with guns drawn, search the house, and find 5, maybe 6 grams of pot,” Harpootlian said about his client, who was arrested in the first raid at the Wells Point Drive home near Ballentine.
A lot of the time, these violent raids result in little, if any jail time and few drugs found (http://www.reason.com/news/show/130307.html). SWAT teams don't just hit 'drug lords' but mostly people with a small amount, if any, in the house.
A Denver Post investigation found that in 80 percent of no-knock raids conducted in Denver in 1999, police assertions that there would be weapons in the targeted home turned out to be wrong. A separate investigation by the Rocky Mountain News found that of the 146 no-knock warrants served in Denver in 1999, just 49 resulted in criminal charges, and only two resulted in prison time. Media investigations produced similar results after high-profile mistaken raids in New York City in 2003, in Atlanta in 2007, and in Orlando and Palm Beach, Florida, in 1998. When the results of the Denver investigation were revealed, former prosecutor Craig Silverman said, “When you have that violent intrusion on people’s homes with so little results, you have to ask why.”
CR
Seamus Fermanagh
02-14-2009, 05:39
Um...
Considering what they do to small time poker players (http://www.examiner.com/a-1821385~Poker_aficionados_watching_SC_Texas_Hold__em_case.html) with friends...
And what they do so very often with recreational pot users (http://www.thestate.com/local/story/682695.html)...
A lot of the time, these violent raids result in little, if any jail time and few drugs found (http://www.reason.com/news/show/130307.html). SWAT teams don't just hit 'drug lords' but mostly people with a small amount, if any, in the house.
CR
And we wonder why we didn't find any significant caches of WMDs in Iraq? Our governments all need to really work the intelligence (military def) angle a LOT better than they have to date. I don't think that most of these raids were likely to have been launched as harassment so much as becaues of lousy information/police work to prepare for them.
AlexanderSextus
02-14-2009, 07:07
This is sickening. Betcha it was weed! When is the govt going to come to it's senses and just legalize it already?
Even if it wasnt weed, Prohibition of drugs does not work. It didnt work with Alcohol, and we are doing the same thing now, and its not working. Last time i checked, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition for INSANITY!
Crazed Rabbit
02-14-2009, 07:12
And we wonder why we didn't find any significant caches of WMDs in Iraq? Our governments all need to really work the intelligence (military def) angle a LOT better than they have to date. I don't think that most of these raids were likely to have been launched as harassment so much as becaues of lousy information/police work to prepare for them.
We need to stop launching these raids in the first place, even if the intelligence was perfect. There should be no excuse for any agent of the government to use force to enter a private residence, unless a person in that house has in the immediate past, ie since the agents arrived at the residence, fired a weapon at said agents.
There should be no other reason whatsoever.
CR
CountArach
02-14-2009, 07:32
Just though I'd share.
Yeah, stop taking it all for yourself.
Banquo's Ghost
02-14-2009, 09:39
We need to stop launching these raids in the first place, even if the intelligence was perfect. There should be no excuse for any agent of the government to use force to enter a private residence, unless a person in that house has in the immediate past, ie since the agents arrived at the residence, fired a weapon at said agents.
There should be no other reason whatsoever.
CR
I'm in absolute agreement with this position. Over here, where there is not even the "excuse" that guns may be on the property, governments (and most insidiously, their unaccountable agencies) are removing property rights and even the need for warrants.
It's the problem with capitalism, they try to pretend they really need those SWAT teams often because otherwise all those SWAT teams will be rationalized away to cut useless spending. ~D
Um...
Considering what they do to small time poker players (http://www.examiner.com/a-1821385~Poker_aficionados_watching_SC_Texas_Hold__em_case.html) with friends...
And what they do so very often with recreational pot users (http://www.thestate.com/local/story/682695.html)...
A lot of the time, these violent raids result in little, if any jail time and few drugs found (http://www.reason.com/news/show/130307.html). SWAT teams don't just hit 'drug lords' but mostly people with a small amount, if any, in the house.
CR
That was a nice waste of taxpayer money. I will never understand it.
Crazed Rabbit
02-14-2009, 18:34
Well, Husar makes a good point. It's not capitalism, mind, but government budgeting - after each podunk town gets a SWAT team (and so many podunk towns (less than 30k people) do) than the police chiefs have to show that the SWAT teams aren't a waste of money. Actual incidents requiring SWAT teams outside of places like LA are quite rare, so they start sending them on every single drug raid to prove they're useful.
CR
Major Robert Dump
02-14-2009, 19:38
If its anything like my county sheriffs dept, theres a 50% chance they got the wrong address, or theres no drugs at all and they have to start scraping surfaces and bongs to try to get a couple grams of resin so they can charge him with at least possession and make the grand, expensive raid "worthwhile" by taking his car, his house, his bank account.
Or maybe he was a bigtime coke dealer with ties to Juarez and human traficking, in which case, he wasn't unemployed and at least he wasn't on welfare
Pannonian
02-14-2009, 21:32
And we wonder why we didn't find any significant caches of WMDs in Iraq? Our governments all need to really work the intelligence (military def) angle a LOT better than they have to date. I don't think that most of these raids were likely to have been launched as harassment so much as becaues of lousy information/police work to prepare for them.
It's understandable if they lack decent humint in a third world country. I expect most of the intelligence support for said SWAT team were away in England.
Side note: I would imagine the U.K. is a popular destination for our spies for lots of reasons. For instance, if you spend two years in the tribal regions of Pakistan, you're likely to spend some time with chronic diarrhea in a mud hut covered with biting flies. A two-year stint in London, on the other hand, means you could wind up developing a taste for crumpets.
I've always suspected that half the reason we have so little HumInt in Afghanistan and Pakistan is that nobody in their right mind wants to hang out in those countries for years at a time.
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