KH Traits Question

[Vexillari]

Can anyone give me a hint as to the trigger(s) for my KH FM's who almost immediately after marrying into the family or being adopted gain the Stunningly Incompetent or Administratively Adept trait?

I searched the forums but didn't see anything on these two traits and I don't feel knowledgeable enough to go digging around in EB or RTW files having had 3 save games go corrupt simultaneously recently.

Thanks

[A Very Super Market]

They are random traits, but I think Dull/Uncharismatic/Langourous dudes are more likely to get the horrible ones, and S/C/V guys are more likely to get good ones.

[antisocialmunky]

Everyone I move near Sparta that isn't Spartan seems to turn out that way...

[theoldbelgian]

well in the athenian description it clearly says that they are horrible at governing spartan agoges, kretans are good at it, spartans are very good at it and the rodhians generally don't care but like their level 2 the best

[Vexillari]

I guess I'm surprised that just one turn in Sparta or, it seems, under a Type 1 Spartan Agoge government, results in a "can't go back" trait! Pretty draconian. Does anyone know how to change the trigger probability?

[Nachtmeister]

I guess I'm surprised that just one turn in Sparta or, it seems, under a Type 1 Spartan Agoge government, results in a "can't go back" trait! Pretty draconian. Does anyone know how to change the trigger probability?


Don't know about the trigger, though a detailed (and not really commented) list is linked to one of the faq-like threads...
But the horrible "wrong-government-punishment-traits" are acquired by putting a family member into the *wrong* type of city (as per their ethnicity-mouse-over-description) *before* they have spent some time governing the *right* type of city. Solution: build a local tyrant gov't in Korinthos, build academies to match the one in Athenai in Korinthos and Sparte. You now have a 3-city-education center. You might want to gradually upgrade the Ionian cities as well (upon conquest, that is) and Rhodos. Yields a better history-is-alive-feel for me.
My standard procedure upon getting a new FM is sending them to the pelloponnesos to enter their corresponding city and stay there until they gain the "erudite" trait (unless they are "dull", in which case "cultured" is satisfactory). Or until I really need them at the front to command armies as I do not use armies without generals (except as garrisons). Before their education it is better to have them spend one or two winters not in a city on their way there than to have them take refuge in a nearby city that is not of their ideal gov't type.