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ForVictory
03-01-2009, 10:46
my bad it seems there are! :yes:
AcidJiles
03-01-2009, 10:48
Its a damn shame that the front line of soldiers can kneel so both the 2nd line of soldiers can fire a volley same time like it wa historically.

Its an ability that is not avaliable in the demo unless you mod it but is avalible to research in the full game.
Greyblades
03-01-2009, 10:48
They can with a tech upgrade, they just dont have it in the demo (which im guessing you are complaining about).
Wausser
03-01-2009, 11:05
Think it's supposed to be platoon fire?
Sir Beane
03-01-2009, 11:12
It's possible to mod it into the demo :2thumbsup:. And it works really well.
Miracle
03-01-2009, 11:36
Someone posted a video of it on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0AQ_GqvKUM

It looks incredibly effective.
Sir Beane
03-01-2009, 11:59
Someone posted a video of it on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0AQ_GqvKUM

It looks incredibly effective.

Nice! :2thumbsup:. Looks both impressive and effective.
Alexander XXI
03-01-2009, 13:47
That is encouraging, I hope that the soldiers do not shoot their comrades in the back as they did in the demo. I had to always make sure that fire at will was off for units stood behind other units which was annoying. It was also bad how if you had a unit three ranks deep, only the front rank would fire, basically meaning that there was no benefit to having more men in the short term.
Miracle
03-01-2009, 14:19
Someone will inevitably mod a recreation of Rorke's Drift (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorke%27s_Drift) a la Zulu (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058777/) and have a Michael Caine-lookalike shout out, "Front Rank, Fire! Second Rank, Fire!" etc. Or at least, he'll create a machinima for YouTube complete with "Men of Harlech" and a spitting trumpeter.
peacemaker
03-01-2009, 17:31
wow, i was only aware in the full game you could have up to two ranks shooting. That's really cool. I'm still wondering-i know the answer is somewhere on these forums-Is there a way to switch between fire whenever you've finished reloading and fire at the same time as the rest of your line?
Wausser
03-02-2009, 15:36
Just use the fire at will button with your units, they will reload when it's off, and will fire directly when you turn it on again...





I just added rank fire in the demo and it really makes a differance, enemy line infantry gets shot within a couple of seconds :smash: totally anihilated 2 groups of line inf and 2 dragoons, nobody survived. I only lost one Guard
Liberator
03-02-2009, 16:01
Isn't it stupid to "invent" kneeling?! :thumbsdown:
Sir Beane
03-02-2009, 16:02
Isn't it stupid to "invent" kneeling?! :thumbsdown:

It's not that you are inventing kneeling. It's more like you invent tne neccesary drills and training methods to get soldiers to fire by rank properly.
quadalpha
03-02-2009, 16:08
Isn't it stupid to "invent" kneeling?! :thumbsdown:
"Corporal, look what I found between my thighs and my shins!"
Dead Guy
03-02-2009, 16:17
Somehow, kneeing seems more useful.
IlDuce
03-02-2009, 18:08
Isn't it stupid to "invent" kneeling?! :thumbsdown:

It's surprising how long it took for some tactics and strategies to be invented. I suppose it's hindsight. Looking back it's simple because you know of it already. In a few hundred years people will probably look back and ask why it took so long to come up with a simple tactic we haven't discovered yet.

Or think of it this way. Modern humans have been around about 200,000 years. We invented the simplest invention ever, the wheel, only 7000 years ago.
CBR
03-02-2009, 18:51
It is just another anachronistic element of "technology" in ETW. Front ranks figured out to kneel even back in the 16th century.


CBR
Sheogorath
03-02-2009, 21:04
I am still rather dissapointed that only one rank at a time can fire. I can only hope that somebody will eventually come up with a way to have all three ranks fire at once, or at least the first two.
Liberator
03-02-2009, 22:27
Hm I'm not sure about it but I think I saw american long rifles all shooting at once in the demo.
Maybe it's possible if the area has some slope so that the second line can fire without disturbing or even killing the first, just as it was with crossbows in MW2
Sheogorath
03-02-2009, 22:32
Hm I'm not sure about it but I think I saw american long rifles all shooting at once in the demo.
Maybe it's possible if the area has some slope so that the second line can fire without disturbing or even killing the first, just as it was with crossbows in MW2

They managed three ranks firing at once in the past. I believe that most armies started experiencing 'friendly fire' at four ranks, which is why three was generally regarded as the 'standard', although some (such as the British) used two ranks.
Sir Beane
03-02-2009, 22:33
They managed three ranks firing at once in the past. I believe that most armies started experiencing 'friendly fire' at four ranks, which is why three was generally regarded as the 'standard', although some (such as the British) used two ranks.

It could be that multiple-rank fire is also a researchable technology.