View Full Version : Mexican Army Invades Juarez, Right Across the Street From El Paso
Strike For The South
03-04-2009, 03:55
And here we go (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1158779/Thousands-Mexican-soldiers-pour-countrys-violent-city-crackdown-drug-gangs.html)
Good luck boys, Crack some skulls.
Seamus Fermanagh
03-04-2009, 04:14
Good cess to them. Hey already have one idea correct that we blew in Iraq. When a situation calls for boots and not electronics, you need to use LOTS of boots all at once.
Now, if the Governor of Texas would add to the security by putting a couple of Guard Brigades in place on our side with orders to offer intelligence and keep the Mexican Gangsters in territory where their own government can deal with them.....
The article actually says...
Barack Obama has been warned that Mexico's drugs lords now pose as big a threat to U.S. national security as Islamic insurgents. The U.S. is now planning to deploy the military to the border to try to contain the bloodshed.
And I appreciate all that, hope it works, after that you have my support to invade Guzman's little fiefdom and arrest him or take him out. Show these guys with Napoleonic complexes that the world isn't their playground.
KukriKhan
03-04-2009, 14:15
Good cess to them. Hey already have one idea correct that we blew in Iraq. When a situation calls for boots and not electronics, you need to use LOTS of boots all at once.
Now, if the Governor of Texas would add to the security by putting a couple of Guard Brigades in place on our side with orders to offer intelligence and keep the Mexican Gangsters in territory where their own government can deal with them.....
Amen.
(But keep our active-duty Army out of it until absolutely necessary.)
Hosakawa Tito
03-04-2009, 14:25
Seems the movie, "No Country for Old Men" was prophetic and Mexico is looking like Chicago in the 1920's early 1930's.
And here we go (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1158779/Thousands-Mexican-soldiers-pour-countrys-violent-city-crackdown-drug-gangs.html)
Good luck boys, Crack some skulls.
HISS
Did you have to link to the Daily Fail?
Seems the movie, "No Country for Old Men" was prophetic and Mexico is looking like Chicago in the 1920's early 1930's.
@ SFTS How similar is No Country For Old Men to Texas?
Strike For The South
03-04-2009, 20:45
@ SFTS How similar is No Country For Old Men to Texas?
How so? Considering the movie is about a Frenchman running around the state killing people. Which would be completely false as Texans don't tolerate the French or there haircuts.
As for the mannerisms and the landscape I'd probably say thats pretty par for the course as far as West Texas goes but then you still have 2 or 3 other very large parts of the state that are pretty different.
I have a friend who is living in a small town in Chihuaha, she says it's really scary over there. People are getting shot all of time, not just by the gangs but by the police and army as well.She said that if they suspect you of being involved with the drug gangs they shoot you on the spot. There's a lot of confusion and fear over there right now :no:
Yoyoma1910
03-04-2009, 22:16
They must have heard about Texas Barbecue. :wink:
Hooahguy
03-04-2009, 22:19
hooah!
bes tof luck to the mexican army/police!
Alexander the Pretty Good
03-04-2009, 22:31
Just treating the symptoms...
Seamus Fermanagh
03-04-2009, 23:21
Just treating the symptoms...
Regrettably true. The lawlessness of the border area is a result of a number of factors -- only a very few of which can be addressed by a military response.
Major Robert Dump
03-04-2009, 23:57
This wouldn't be a problem if we let more Mexicans into the US to work the jobs Americans don't want. If they could get respectable poultry farm jobs here, they wouldn't have to sell cocaine just to put food on their families.
I have a friend who is living in a small town in Chihuaha, she says it's really scary over there. People are getting shot all of time, not just by the gangs but by the police and army as well.She said that if they suspect you of being involved with the drug gangs they shoot you on the spot. There's a lot of confusion and fear over there right now :no:
Well, that's exactly what i was secretly hoping wouldn't happen. :wall:
Strike For The South
03-05-2009, 00:17
This wouldn't be a problem if we let more Mexicans into the US to work the jobs Americans don't want. If they could get respectable poultry farm jobs here, they wouldn't have to sell cocaine just to put food on their families.
The guys who are taking over now are straight up professionals or MS-13 who treat the Mexicans like cattle (supposedly for the way central americans are treated in Mexico)
Strike For The South
03-05-2009, 00:26
The real sad part of this is that Mexicos crime rates are lower than the US's across the board (excluding murder) The problem is there judiciary is so corrupt and organized crime is so well entrenched.
Major Robert Dump
03-05-2009, 00:33
the rest of South America far from adores Mexico and its inhabitants. Apparently they can look at one another and tell who is Peruvian, Columbian, Mexican, etc. I know Peruvian and Puerto Rican people who won't eat at restaurants owned and staffed by Mexicans because they say they will get spit in their food. And I know Bolivians who hate Peruvians. I don't understand any of it, but I guess they have a reason. I blame the Pope.
tibilicus
03-05-2009, 01:02
Never knew the Mexican police and army were so well armed..
the rest of South America far from adores Mexico and its inhabitants. Apparently they can look at one another and tell who is Peruvian, Columbian, Mexican, etc. I know Peruvian and Puerto Rican people who won't eat at restaurants owned and staffed by Mexicans because they say they will get spit in their food. And I know Bolivians who hate Peruvians. I don't understand any of it, but I guess they have a reason. I blame the Pope.
Blame the Spanish and Portugese... That's what I do at least.
Never knew the Mexican police and army were so well armed..
Given what they're up against, they have to be.
As much as I am a proponent of due process of law, this whole drug cartel thing is getting so crazy that I think it's time we start doing some random airstrikes, a la Clear and Present Danger. Enough is enough.
KukriKhan
03-05-2009, 03:55
Blame the Spanish and Portugese... That's what I do at least.
Given what they're up against, they have to be.
As much as I am a proponent of due process of law, this whole drug cartel thing is getting so crazy that I think it's time we start doing some random airstrikes, a la Clear and Present Danger. Enough is enough.
With you on that, from start to finish, just... not yet. We don't want our own federales being given any kinda foothold, if we can avoid it. Let the Texicans, and the Zonie's, and Cali's, and Nuevo Mexies, handle it local-like, sez I.
Might be the final vestige of exercisable State-power, v. D.C. calling all shots (as they've shown to be inept at, so far).
Blame the Spanish and Portugese...
Hey, the Portuguese had nothing to do with the rivalries between different nations. At least the colony we left there was large enough that can actually bully and lead the continent. And we left a colony filled with the most beautiful women in the world. Afterwards, what they do is their own business. I wouldn't mind continuing to have subservient Brasil but hey, that's de-col for everyone. They want independence, now they can deal with their problems without blaming it on the conquistadores.
EDIT: Although they blame American Imperialism. I believe that's closer to the truth.
Yoyoma1910
03-05-2009, 16:33
the rest of South America far from adores Mexico and its inhabitants. Apparently they can look at one another and tell who is Peruvian, Columbian, Mexican, etc. I know Peruvian and Puerto Rican people who won't eat at restaurants owned and staffed by Mexicans because they say they will get spit in their food. And I know Bolivians who hate Peruvians. I don't understand any of it, but I guess they have a reason. I blame the Pope.
Excuse me, but Mexico is part of North America, not South. Sorry, but I felt a need to clarify.
the rest of South America far from adores Mexico and its inhabitants. Apparently they can look at one another and tell who is Peruvian, Columbian, Mexican, etc. I know Peruvian and Puerto Rican people who won't eat at restaurants owned and staffed by Mexicans because they say they will get spit in their food. And I know Bolivians who hate Peruvians. I don't understand any of it, but I guess they have a reason. I blame the Pope.
The usual reasons. Wars and historical slights.
Bolivia's access to the sea...
Major Robert Dump
03-06-2009, 02:19
Excuse me, but Mexico is part of North America, not South. Sorry, but I felt a need to clarify.
blah blah the point is the same
Well, that's exactly what i was secretly hoping wouldn't happen. :wall:
After hearing what my friend has said, I don't really approve of the Mexican government's handling of the situation.
Strike For The South
03-06-2009, 06:49
After hearing what my friend has said, I don't really approve of the Mexican government's handling of the situation.
The army is maybe the only establishment in Mexico that isn't corrupt. This job has to fall to them.
Alexander the Pretty Good
03-06-2009, 09:40
That sounds overly generous to the Mexican army. :/
The army is maybe the only establishment in Mexico that isn't corrupt. This job has to fall to them.
Drug Lords aren't corrupted. If you try to bribe them, they'll soak you in sulfur acid and you'll vanish from the world!
AlexanderSextus
03-09-2009, 03:50
If we legalize and regulate drugs then the drug lords will have no black market to make them powerful.
a completely inoffensive name
03-09-2009, 04:16
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If we legalize and regulate drugs then the drug lords will have no black market to make them powerful.
I agree. Banning drugs has not stopped people from using them, it has only created a market for criminals to make huge amounts of money. Drug laws were created to prevent people from harming themselves by using them. What has happened is that those people are harming themselves anyway, while thousands of innocent people are killed and oppressed by those who make and sell them.
I agree. Banning drugs has not stopped people from using them, it has only created a market for criminals to make huge amounts of money. Drug laws were created to prevent people from harming themselves by using them. What has happened is that those people are harming themselves anyway, while thousands of innocent people are killed and oppressed by those who make and sell them.
+1, but have fun convincing the social conservatives.
Major Robert Dump
03-10-2009, 02:47
You would be amazed at how many social conservatives want drug laws loosened/abolished, the problem is that the ones in office won't do it, its the voters and pundits and scholars on the right who want it done and are vocal about it, and the situation is almost the same on the left. It's taboo and th Congress are mostly cowards.
LittleGrizzly
03-10-2009, 03:42
I have always had the feeling that its mainly middle class parents about what little jimmy could get up to... and maybe an element of the older generation who had anti drugs propaganda thrown at them... reefer madness being the obvious example but more subtle and still filled with lies stuff later on... thats based off assumption though anyone got anything a bit more concrete....?
Im figuring there must be a majority somewhere out there that doesn't want it... politicians don't tend to purposefully carry out counter productive policies unless there is some major (or strategically important) votes to be had on the issue*
*or of course corporate politician back scratching but i don't see that as much of an issue.... i suppose some pharmacutical companies may have some profits issues regarding marijuana for example but that doesn't seem to be the problem...
Well, the mafia voters would obviously against it.
Now the question is, how much of the voting base do they represent? >50%?
LittleGrizzly
03-10-2009, 12:57
Its the almighty coalition of drug dealers, terrorists, (drugs fund terrorism don't ya know) medical company CEO's, Policemen (drugs fund police forces... indirectly) and middle class parents....
Its the almighty coalition of drug dealers, terrorists, (drugs fund terrorism don't ya know) medical company CEO's, Policemen (drugs fund police forces... indirectly) and middle class parents....
Shouldnt paper companies be in there? I read numerous times that hemp can replace trees for making paper easily.
LittleGrizzly
03-11-2009, 00:41
Thinking on it i heard it makes good rope!
Maybe clothes as well but my memorys fuzzy on that one...
Well there you is a big evil powerful conspiracy against marijuana funded by a range of sources and vots for self interest....
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