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jnabb22
03-08-2009, 19:09
I started a new campaign with hayasdan, and for some reason I can't recruit any faction units is that because you need a reform or something. if you could help thanx. :2thumbsup:

Sarkiss
03-08-2009, 19:12
upgrading barracks will give you some basic ones i believe.
there is a descripancy there for if you capture Mtskheta you'll be able to recruit Armenian spearmen in there straight away unlike Armavir.

jnabb22
03-08-2009, 19:19
I'll try capturing mtskhets:2thumbsup: when I get home. but all my city can't get 1 or 2 stlye province things. And after awile I just did process_cq on one of my citys to get the highest barrels but still no hayasdan unit

Fluvius Camillus
03-08-2009, 19:20
Not the best introduction campaign, if this is the first campaign you chose to play with.

The Hayasdan start difficult with economy in peril, and have strong enemies. If you play well they will grow to a more than capable faction, but you have to make it through the start first. Hayasdan is considered one of the three factions who are difficulty level: Nigh-Possible, a challenge for the best EB players.

If you are new to EB try easier factions, if this is not the case, then I wish you good luck!:2thumbsup:

jnabb22
03-08-2009, 19:29
Well i've played quite a few but mostly Rome and kh so this is the hardest campaign I've done I got it on h/h but thanks 4 your support.:beam:

Tolg
03-08-2009, 20:42
You can't recruit Hai units because the Royal Kingdom of Hayasdan doesn't exist yet by 272. There only are a few caucasian tribes under the controll of a dinasty of persian nobles.

Here's a guide about Hayasdans two reforms: click (https://www.europabarbarorum.com/downloads_guides.html)


Hayasdan is extremely fun if you're into cavalry, Archers and HAs, they're my second favorite faction (after Pahlava), but they're quiet difficult. Keep it up. (And never forget that nothing the AS can come up with can beat Caucasian Archers defending a stone walled Karkathiokerta.)

Cyrus
03-08-2009, 21:23
:faq: all the information on hayasdan reforms (exept what units they get) is in the FAQ.

Ravenfeeder
03-09-2009, 19:12
The FAQ and the pdf on the EB site say different things about the reforms. Which one is right?

Tolg
03-09-2009, 19:20
I don't know for sure but I'd expect the FAQ to be newer.

The guide is more focused on the "historical" background and is better to understand the general system of the reforms.

Ravenfeeder
03-09-2009, 19:35
Which reform gets the bodyguard upgrade? Or is that toggled by the March of Time?

Tolg
03-09-2009, 19:39
March of Time.

Hayasdan's reforms don't give you any new units, just the ability to build the government's needed to built the factional MICs which are needed to recruit the old units.

V.T. Marvin
03-09-2009, 19:39
Bodyguard upgrades are tied to the March of Time.

Ravenfeeder
03-09-2009, 19:49
Many thanks. I'll just have to wait for those Romani to get breeding. I've achieved the first set of reforms according to the FAQ (and I'm still allied with the AS!).

HayGuy
03-09-2009, 23:53
AS is such a pain in the arse. While working on my second set of reforms I got fed up with them...punishment time...I raided two of their northern cities on my southern border and razed the crap out of them then let them have the sorry piles of stone back...has been quiet ever since.
:whip:

Maion Maroneios
03-10-2009, 17:21
That can be effective sometime (razing an enemy faction's settlements as a punishment), but they always seem to get back at you at some point with more hate. As if the AI is actually remembering what you did to them :tongue:

Maion

satalexton
03-10-2009, 17:55
but sometimes, isn't it more fun to grant them the illusion of an opportunity to get back at you?

bleh, i'm not that fond of the hai, light infantry+cavalry ain really my cup of tea...