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piratehooker
04-06-2009, 03:11
self-explanatory.
mine would be cretan archers and scythian horse archers, plus persian archer spearmen.
oh and once you get enough money merc pezhetairoi are wonderful, they last forever.
A Very Super Market
04-06-2009, 03:57
WILD MEN AND GAESATAE!!!!!
Insane naked Celts are number one. And incredibly useful.
Aemilius Paulus
04-06-2009, 03:59
Oooh, oooh! I love this thread :2thumbsup:
In order:
Galatikoi Tindanotae
Misthophoroi Phalangitai* (as a non-pike phalanx nation)
Wargozes (the Germanic blokes with axes & wolf skins)
Qala'im Balearim
Toxotai Kretikoi
EDIT: Iberi Scutari
Thraikian Peltastai**
*They are actually available in a Regional MIC for all nations in Antiocheia and Alexandreia, but I never had the money to build that lvl 4/5 MIC. I also hire large quantities of Syrian, Scythian and Bosphoran Archers - BTW, I modded the Bosphoran armour and Syrian missile attack to make them more realistically stronger
**(also modded their stats to give them better armour, as it is reflected on them)
teh1337tim
04-06-2009, 04:00
my favorite missle mercanies has to be the cretan archers, belaric slingers...
couple of battles in gaul or iberia and they kill those nasty barbarians like flies getting zapped...
in the africa, nothings better than the numidian calvalry, theyre just so... good !
In greece... has to be the mercanary phalangitai or hoplite, i mean, you just cant resist good old hammer and anvil on those rebellious greeks
thrace...
falxman (drugonitzasaijajs sumthing like that) 'nuff said
then from here to the far east baktria, its all phalangitai/local calvalry and infantry.
favorite 3 mercanaries are phalangitai / hoplite / cretan archers
seienchin
04-06-2009, 04:17
Numidian cavallery would be the most usefull one, but I always get them from regional mics.
The mercenary I am using the most are the mistophoroi pezhetairoi. You can never have enough phalangitai, when facing factions with heavy cavallery :book:
But my favourite are the caledonian skirmishers, the Balroae. They are incredibly strong, esspecially in woods and they are cheap and spawn incredibly fast. Man I beat a full stack of casse, just with mercenaries and the Balroae did most of the damage.
Aemilius Paulus
04-06-2009, 04:37
Numidian cavallery would be the most usefull one, but I always get them from regional mics.
The mercenary I am using the most are the mistophoroi pezhetairoi. You can never have enough phalangitai, when facing factions with heavy cavallery :book:
But my favourite are the caledonian skirmishers, the Balroae. They are incredibly strong, esspecially in woods and they are cheap and spawn incredibly fast. Man I beat a full stack of casse, just with mercenaries and the Balroae did most of the damage.
I do not see all the hype over Numidians. They do not happen to use their spear overhand, do they? Because that basically kills the charge.
Also, the Phalangites' only weakness is heavy cavalry. In EB, infantry can almost never get through all the pikes and it will normally stay at the edge, getting slowly whittled. Only when presented with height advantage or gargantuan numbers can the normal infantry push through the pikes. Heavy cavalry (26+ armour) can easily push through the pikes and wreck havok on the phalanx. I have had a 35-man 1 experience Seleukid General's Bodyguard defeat a 120 man Merc Phalangitai. Even when two units manage to defeat the cavalry, they suffer horrendous casualties. The best thing against heavy cav are elite spearmen such as Triarii, etc.
A Very Super Market
04-06-2009, 04:49
Slingers also work well against Heavy cavalry, as does a cavalry charge of your own. Phalanxes don't work really, because you aren't going to get through all that armour with an unwieldy sarrisa and your own arm strength.
I don't like Numidians, because they're skin looks rather dirty... and because Tarantine elites are much better than them.
Aemilius Paulus
04-06-2009, 05:12
I don't like Numidians, because they're skin looks rather dirty... and because Tarantine elites are much better than them.
Tarentines are even worse. Any cavalry that does not have spears/lances and does not couch them during a charge is crap. Because those that couch their spears/lances get the charge bonus and annihilate standing infantry. The sword and overhand spear cavalry does not really cause any charge casualties. As far as I care, they are merely fast infantry to me. No use. The only exception is HAs, but I still prefer the HAs with spears to the ones with long daggers.
Speaking of that, why do some low-end HAs have daggers? Those were clearly not used by cavalry, as they needed a sword with a reach, which is why the Roman cavalry used long Mainz-type gladius and the spatha. Vanilla RTW gave all missile cavalry (and all missile units for that matter) daggers, which was clearly inaccurate in the case of cavalry. EB fixed that, but not with some of the units.
A Very Super Market
04-06-2009, 05:16
Evidentally, you have no respect for skirmisher cavalry. I like Tarantines because they can still hold their own in close combat. I almost never use them against infantry, because they actually do suck at that, but they are able to hold their own against Carthaginian bodyguard cavalry. Really, they are there as a mobile anti-cavalry force, since javelins can pierce armour, and they can actually catch up to them.
Aemilius Paulus
04-06-2009, 05:48
Evidentally, you have no respect for skirmisher cavalry.
Yeah, I really do not. Anything that does not have a spear/lance that can be couched is not on my recruitment list/queue. However, some skirmisher cavalry have lances/spears. Leuce Epos are one of them. Still, I do not hire them as Scythian Riders are brutally effective. Their arrows are long range and they have plenty of them.
I like Tarantines because they can still hold their own in close combat. I almost never use them against infantry, because they actually do suck at that, but they are able to hold their own against Carthaginian bodyguard cavalry. Really, they are there as a mobile anti-cavalry force, since javelins can pierce armour, and they can actually catch up to them.
Meh, that is one way to sue them, but spear-armed infantry is better. General's bodyguards always do banzai charges. Stupid them. Just as useful as seppuku/harakiri. And not to mention the spear armed cavalry are more versatile.
kekailoa
04-06-2009, 06:29
I love me the Celtiberian Heavies. Then every other merc you can recruit in Iberia. They're all wonderful.
Now only if they had crazy naked men.
Cullhwch
04-06-2009, 07:05
I do not see all the hype over Numidians. They do not happen to use their spear overhand, do they? Because that basically kills the charge.
They use the spears underhand a la Leuce Epos. They're really pretty effective in an all-Numidian army when skirmishers function as your line infantry. Their charge is good, if not spectacular.
My personal favorite mercenaries are the Dunaminaca, Curepos, Samnites, Tindanotae, Cretans, and Thraikioi Prodromoi. I've also got a soft spot for Callacae Roscathreira, as they will sustain absolutely appalling casualties before they rout.
The only mercenaries that seem truly crappy to me are the Hippeis and Hippakontistai. I can use even Lucanian spermen in a pinch, but these cavalry units are only useful for chasing routers and intercepting enemy cavalry charges. After all, why would I want my Bataroas/Hoplitai to get pulverized by enemy horsemen? Hippeis do an admirable job at taking beatings.
ziegenpeter
04-06-2009, 12:15
With Pics please!
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/gaul/rebel_solduros.gifSolduros
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/steppe-euro/rebel_aorsi_nobles.gif
Aorsi Nobles
seienchin
04-06-2009, 12:20
I do not see all the hype over Numidians. They do not happen to use their spear overhand, do they? Because that basically kills the charge.
Also, the Phalangites' only weakness is heavy cavalry. In EB, infantry can almost never get through all the pikes and it will normally stay at the edge, getting slowly whittled. Only when presented with height advantage or gargantuan numbers can the normal infantry push through the pikes. Heavy cavalry (26+ armour) can easily push through the pikes and wreck havok on the phalanx. I have had a 35-man 1 experience Seleukid General's Bodyguard defeat a 120 man Merc Phalangitai. Even when two units manage to defeat the cavalry, they suffer horrendous casualties. The best thing against heavy cav are elite spearmen such as Triarii, etc.
?????
Have you ever fought against a big parthian army?? Everybody except for phalangitai get around 20 to 30 men casualties from the charge. The trick is to stop the charge with your phalangitai and when the enemy pushes through the sarissa you take of the phalanx formation and charge in with one supporting unit. Anyway you have to avoid the charge.
And obviously you know nothing about numidians. Better give them a chance cause they kick asses.
And A very super market, I know you prefer the use the heavy elite force strike method, but you should try and give the light troops in EB a chance. They are deadly if used the right way.:egypt:
Tollheit
04-06-2009, 12:22
As Saka: Sauromatae Fat Aexsdzhytae and Persian Archer-Spearmen
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/steppe-euro/rebel_sauromatae_fat_aexsdzhytae.gifhttps://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/eastern/rebel_eransahr_arshtbara.gif
As Sweboz: Worgozez and Skuda Baexdzhyntae
https://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6305/germanicinfantrywargoz.jpghttps://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/steppe-euro/rebel_skuda_baexdzhyntae.gif
As Sab'yn: Garamantim and Misthophoroi Phalangitai
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/northafrica/rebel_garamantines_inf.gifhttps://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/hellenic/merc_pezhetairoi.gif
As Casse: Iberi Scutari and Balearic Slingers
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/iberia/rebel_medium_scutarii.gifhttps://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/iberia/rebel_balearic_slinger.gif
anubis88
04-06-2009, 12:27
With Pics please!
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/gaul/rebel_solduros.gifSolduros
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/steppe-euro/rebel_aorsi_nobles.gif
Aorsi Nobles
Solduros aren't mercenary's....
My great mercenary's are celto-hellenic hoplites... pretty decent unit to form part of your main line of the army
NickTheGreek
04-06-2009, 12:27
Toxotai Kretikoi and Galatikoi Kluddolon - excellent archers and excellent cannon fodder, and so plentiful in asia minor and thrace.
Jebivjetar
04-06-2009, 13:04
I like medium phalanx and babylonian heavy spearman
Misthophoroi Phalangitai* (as a non-pike phalanx nation)
*They are actually available in a Regional MIC for all nations in Antiocheia and Alexandreia, but I never had the money to build that lvl 4/5 MIC. I also hire large quantities of Syrian, Scythian and Bosphoran Archers - BTW, I modded the Bosphoran armour and Syrian missile attack to make them more realistically stronger
Did you mod the Mistrophoroi Phalangitai in too? In vanilla EB no faction can recruit them from a MIC.
And my favorite mercs are these guys:
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/greece/merc_cretan_archers.gif
The best western archers you can get. Misthophoroi Toxotai Kretikoi!
It would be really nice if you could hire Sphendonetai Rhodioi as mercs too...
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/greece/ele_rhodian_slingers.gif
Ceterum censeo Romam esse delendam
athanaric
04-06-2009, 14:38
My favourites are:
Worgozez (found no picture).
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/makedonia/mak_thrakioi_prodromoi.gif,
Misthophoroi Thraikioi Prodromoi - damn useful even for cavalry heavy factions.
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/thrace/rebel_peltastaithrakioi.gif
Misthophoroi Thraikioi Peltastai (this one is the Eleutheroi skin though). Meet them on a wall and you'll regret it.
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/eastern/rebel_daha_baexdzhyntae.gif
Daha Baexdzhyntae - yeah I can spell that word from my memory :laugh4:
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/iberia/rebel_balearic_slinger.gif
Qala'im Balearim - the only slinger unit with an AP melee weapon!
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/greece/merc_cretan_archers.gif
Misthophoroi Toxotai Kretikoi - they have one point more body armour than factional Kretans. Dunno why, though.
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/getia/rebel_germanic_bastarnoz.gif
Druxtiz Basterniska - wish the KH could recruit these...
Ibn-Khaldun
04-06-2009, 14:52
In every campaign I play I use mercenary phalanxes and Cretan archers. I did it in Vanilla and I am doing it now. Old habits die hard! :laugh4:
Also, one of my favourites are Celto-Hellenic Hoplites - useful for almost everything and available almost everywhere!
Worgozez (found no picture).
https://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6305/germanicinfantrywargoz.jpg (https://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=germanicinfantrywargoz.jpg)
Ceterum censeo Romam esse delendam
ziegenpeter
04-06-2009, 18:34
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/greece/merc_cretan_archers.gif
The best western archers you can get. Misthophoroi Toxotai Kretikoi!
https://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6305/germanicinfantrywargoz.jpg (https://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=germanicinfantrywargoz.jpg)
Definetly.
Anubis, are you shure about the solduros?
Mediolanicus
04-06-2009, 18:39
Definetly.
Anubis, are you shure about the solduros?
I don't know about him, but I am sure they aren't mercs.
And I have my doubts about the Aorsi nobles too.
My fav mercs have already been named in this thread, though I only rely on mercs in emergencies.
Tollheit
04-06-2009, 18:55
And I have my doubts about the Aorsi nobles too.
So do I.
athanaric
04-06-2009, 18:58
Yancai (Alan) Nobles are mercenaries (that can also be retrained at a regional MIC). Aorsi Nobles are not.
Aemilius Paulus
04-06-2009, 19:06
My fav mercs have already been named in this thread, though I only rely on mercs in emergencies.
That is only natural. We have all posted the most popular, useful, and effective units already. But still, I find it interesting to see who likes what and how many like what. So please do post :yes:.
Someone should make a poll. I would do it, but it seems slightly redundant. What do you think guys?
Mediolanicus
04-06-2009, 19:10
Misthophoroi Thraikioi Peltastai
Misthophoroi Toxotai Kretikoi
Druxtiz Basterniska
Misthophoroi Keltohellenikoi Hoplitai
and one that hasn't been named before I think: Misthophoroi Uazali
Aemilius Paulus
04-06-2009, 19:24
and one that hasn't been named before I think: Misthophoroi Uazali
Yeah, those are pretty darn good warriors. With 100 men, 10 sword attack, and 19 defence and 3 javelins they are very good troops and cost only 1463 to recruit in a level 3 (?) Regional MIC.
Only soldiers of their type that are better are most likely the Iberi Caetrati with their AP 9 attack and 1 extra javelin with 1 point higher javelin attack. But they also have only a 2 defence shield and 18 overall defence. You decide :shrug: But these are available in Iberia, heck of al long way from Asia Minor.
Someone should make a poll. I would do it, but it seems slightly redundant. What do you think guys?
Would be interesting. But do you want to add all mercs or only an assortment of the most popular ones?
Ceterum censeo Romam esse delendam
Aemilius Paulus
04-06-2009, 19:44
Would be interesting. But do you want to add all mercs or only an assortment of the most popular ones?
I could put about 15-20 mercenaries maximum. Basically, I will choose the most popular ones in this thread. Then I will see if one can make a poll where one can select three choices. Because it is rather difficult for quite a bit of people here, I am certain, to tell which mercenary they prefer the most, as there are plenty of good ones, and it is difficult to choose between favourite missile units, favourite melee infantry units and favourite cavalry.
Tristuskhan
04-06-2009, 19:55
Yancai (Alan) Nobles are mercenaries
And you have my favorite mercs there.
Raygereio
04-06-2009, 20:05
They have been mentioned before, I believe, but:
Misthophoroi Hoplitai
https://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b337/RR5/hellenistic_infantry_hoplitai_merc_.jpg
I love these guys.
And there is some sort of sweet historic irony in using these in my Hayasdan campaign against the diadochoi, but that's just me.
And don't forget the Massaliotai Hoplitai (Massilian Medium Hoplites)
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/gaul/rebel_massiloi_hoplitai.gif
I love them, they are perfect for roleplay issues too.
Ceterum censeo Romam esse delendam
Most of my favourites have already been posted, but these three have always been indispensable in nearly all of my campaigns:
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/galatia/galatian_kluddolon.gif
Useful as fodder, and can also come in handy as flankers too
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/thrace/rebel_peltastaithrakioi.gif
For me, one of the best skirmisher/flanker combinations available - can pack enough punch to cause damage to most heavies via a charge to the flanks or rear, and then have the speed to run away again :yes:
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/hellenic/merc_pezhetairoi.gif
Very, very useful for any faction that doesn't have ready access to phalanx troops - served me quite well guarding bridges and forts :smash:
Aemilius Paulus
04-07-2009, 21:14
Most of my favourites have already been posted, but these three have always been indispensable in nearly all of my campaigns:
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/galatia/galatian_kluddolon.gif
Useful as fodder, and can also come in handy as flankers too
Are they not a bit too expensive for "fodder"? They are mercenaries after all. How much do they cost? Whatever it is, it is probably twice or three times more expensive than your faction's elites. And even in the role of flankers they are relatively rotten when compared to anything else.
I will have to agree with you on the Peltastai and Phalangitai. Those are indespensable in my campaign as well, especially the phalangitai. To the point where all of my armies fighting AS have at least five full phalanxes. I am fighting the Diadochi with their own weapons and fighting styles :P. My Marian legionaries are also great, but they are slaughtered when attacking the AS pike phalanxes, even though the function of the legionaries charging at the front of a phalanx is to simply hold it down for a cavalry charge in the back.
Are they not a bit too expensive for "fodder"? They are mercenaries after all. How much do they cost? Whatever it is, it is probably twice or three times more expensive than your faction's elites. And even in the role of flankers they are relatively rotten when compared to anything else.
Aye, just realised that even though they're available as mercs, i was using the factional ones recruitable from thrace and galatia, hence the using them as sling magnets :oops:
edit: I've always found the galatians to be much better than i'd previously thought of for flanking, though that could have just been the opposition i've been facing for a while....
I will have to agree with you on the Peltastai and Phalangitai. Those are indespensable in my campaign as well, especially the phalangitai. To the point where all of my armies fighting AS have at least five full phalanxes. I am fighting the Diadochi with their own weapons and fighting styles :P. My Marian legionaries are also great, but they are slaughtered when attackign the AS pike phalanxes, even though the function of the legionaries charging at the front of a phalnx is to simply hold it down for a cavalry charge in the back.
Heh yeah - there is something great about using a faction's fighting style and equipment against them :laugh4: Thats what i love about the merc phalanxes - they save the sword-toting infantry in your army from getting cut to shreds!
Ibn-Khaldun
04-07-2009, 21:28
Heh yeah - there is something great about using a faction's fighting style and equipment against them :laugh4: Thats what i love about the merc phalanxes - they save the sword-toting infantry in your army from getting cut to shreds!
That's why I always use Samnite and Bruttian mercenaries against Romans!!! :laugh4:
That's why I always use Samnite and Bruttian mercenaries against Romans!!! :laugh4:
Yup - i've had many an epirote army with these fellas giving me a hand :smash:
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/italy/ele_bruttian_inf.gif
That's why I always use Samnite and Bruttian mercenaries against Romans!!! :laugh4:
Samnitici Milites are one of my favourite non-Greek mercenaries. As KH you sometimes need something better than Thorakitai Hoplitai for assault missions, Samnitici are the best choice for that work.
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/italy/rebel_samnite_swordsmen.gif
Ceterum censeo Romam esse delendam
Another very useful unit for any faction that doesnt have access to phalanxes - and it has an axe too! :smash:
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/alps/rebel_appea_gaedotos.gif
Aemilius Paulus
04-07-2009, 23:32
That's why I always use Samnite and Bruttian mercenaries against Romans!!! :laugh4:
Nah, that is not so bad. You do know you can recruit Camillian Hastati in Roma as any faction? Now THAT is irony.
Nah, that is not so bad. You do know you can recruit Camillian Hastati in Roma as any faction? Now THAT is irony.
Heh always fun fighting the romani with romani :laugh4:
waydog98
04-08-2009, 04:04
how bout those georgian swordmans... can't beat hayasdan early game without them!
Cullhwch
04-08-2009, 09:00
Waydog brings up a good point. Georgian Swordsmen are the Curepos of the East. Not that great in absolute terms, but absolutely excellent given their niche and regional competition.
My favourite mercenarys:
Misthophoroi Hoplitai
Misthophoroi Toxatai Kretikoi
Rhatian axemen
Pezoi Bruttioi
Massaliotai Hoplitai
Celto-hellenic hoplites
Mercanary Persian Archer-Spearmen
Misthophoroi peltastai
Misthophoroi Iphikratous hoplitai
Misthophoroi Thureophoroi
Aichmetai Leukanoi
Another very useful unit for any faction that doesnt have access to phalanxes - and it has an axe too! :smash:
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/alps/rebel_appea_gaedotos.gif
Unfortunately they have no longer the Phalanx ability in EB 1.2. But they are still good spearmens. And AP axes...slowly cutting through Roman armor:beam:.
Ceterum censeo Romam esse delendam
Ibn-Khaldun
04-08-2009, 13:58
Nah, that is not so bad. You do know you can recruit Camillian Hastati in Roma as any faction? Now THAT is irony.
Yes, that's true. But first you got to take Rome in order to get them. But I rarely do that because Romans are not Romans anymore if they don't have Rome!
Nachtmeister
04-08-2009, 21:28
Nah, that is not so bad. You do know you can recruit Camillian Hastati in Roma as any faction? Now THAT is irony.
Yes, that's true. But first you got to take Rome in order to get them. But I rarely do that because Romans are not Romans anymore if they don't have Rome!
You can recruit camillan hastati in Latium, Umbria and Etruria with any faction and a regional MIC2.
In my current KH campaign, I have "moved" Epeiros to southern Italia by beating them out of Hellas while they managed to hold on to Kalabria. Allied them, then bashed the Roman army that was laying siege to Tarentum, thus giving Epeiros some time to make use of the huge money bonus an AI faction gets when it is down to one city.
Epeiros took Brettia, Latium and Sicilia in a rush and has been holding it's own against the "Romani" while I have taken Umbria and managed (between sieges every turn:wall:) to get a regional MIC2 installed. Ever since, the garrison of 4xHastati and 2xRorarii plus one italic general has been able to fend off the waves of principes and illyrioi parakletoi (sp?) every turn. And since the chalkeon got installed, I am even winning heroic victories. This is severely slowing the campaign down however - an additional battle every turn. So maybe you are, in the end, right after all Ibn-Khaldun; vanquishing the Romani faction entirely before accessing Hastati might be more fun to do than to use them against the Romani. Hoplitai, supported by some hippeis xystophoroi, are far more efficient against them anyway.
Maion Maroneios
04-09-2009, 14:27
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/greece/merc_cretan_archers.gif
Deffinately.
Maion
Silence Hunter
04-09-2009, 15:44
Don't underestimate these guys:
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/neareast/rebel_babylonian_heavy_infantry.gif
They are excellent line infantry for my Hayasdan armies. Usually have 2-3 units of them in an army. They can withstand most infantry they meet in the region, have spears to counter cavalry and AP maces to crush the armor with ease. They can be used in so many different roles that they are just awesome! I usually put them in front of my army to finish off whatever infatry that manages to reach my lines. I also use them on guard mode to withstand the cavalry, while my own cavalry swings around then disable guard mode and charge that poor cavalry with maces and my own cavalry from the back = annihilation.
Don't underestimate these guys:
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/neareast/rebel_babylonian_heavy_infantry.gif
They are excellent line infantry for my Hayasdan armies. Usually have 2-3 units of them in an army. They can withstand most infantry they meet in the region, have spears to counter cavalry and AP maces to crush the armor with ease. They can be used in so many different roles that they are just awesome! I usually put them in front of my army to finish off whatever infatry that manages to reach my lines. I also use them on guard mode to withstand the cavalry, while my own cavalry swings around then disable guard mode and charge that poor cavalry with maces and my own cavalry from the back = annihilation.
I'd agree with you there, I always try to have a few of them in any army in the area, usually mod them in as recruitable for Makedon and KH in Babylon too
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/eleutheroi/celtic/rebel_mist_keltohellenikoi.gif
Hoplitai Keltohellikoi
Widely available across europe, and fairly versatile too!
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/epeiros/epi_illyrioihippeis.gif
https://www.europabarbarorum.com/i/units/aedui/aedui_curepos.gif
Illyrioi Hippeis and Curepos
Both incredibly useful to me - can work wonders you wouldn't usually expect of light cavalry
Atraphoenix
04-17-2009, 15:40
best for playing with Pahlava :yes:
Verkhana Kofyaren (Hyrkanian Hillmen) best unit even can be recruited by pahlava for AP mission to cut phalanx armies. best use let them engage the phalanx while your HAs killing them at back.
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best archers but do I need any more archer units?:
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Misthophoroi Phalangitai (Mercenary Pikemen-Pezhetairoi) I wish I had a chance to recruit pezos but at least I can hire mercenary pezos. They are vital for pahlava to survive but not for defending pandadapoi phalangites are more suitable for defending thanks to their axes.
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gallatians are awesome but they suck for their price I can recruit nearly two grivpandar units. plus I like facing them how they make me laugh dying while they are trying to catch my HAs :laugh4:
Aulus Caecina Severus
04-17-2009, 20:56
always and only longsword infantry to crush those ridiculous pike infantry, better if is celtic:smash::smash::smash:
Aemilius Paulus
04-18-2009, 03:07
Hmmm...
So is this about the right time to post that poll on favourite mercenaries? Some empirical data would be splendid, as it is much easier to tell what is the sot popular mercenary when you have clear numbers, and numerous people voting, and not just the ones who are posting.
The mercenary units posted are getting pretty redundant, so I do suppose it is the right time for the poll. What do you think guys?
Don't know if anyone said this yet but I quite like the Kamboja
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They are fast, have decent armour, ap and good charge.
So is this about the right time to post that poll on favourite mercenaries?
Good idea but which mercanaries would be chosen to be in the poll? I don't think we can all of them.
Good idea but which mercanaries would be chosen to be in the poll? I don't think we can all of them.
Well a few choices have been repeated by several players - wouldn't be a bad place to start!
Aemilius Paulus
04-18-2009, 19:25
Alright then. I will create a poll. I just hope I can make one that allows a user to choose more than one response. Because really, it is hard to choose the absolute favourite merc. Choosing top 3 is much easier and better.
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