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A new flu virus suspected of killing up to 60 people in Mexico has the potential to become a pandemic, the World Health Organization's chief says.
Margaret Chan said the outbreak was a "serious situation" which needed to be followed closely.
Ms Chan cut short a visit to the US and returned to Geneva for urgent talks.
Health experts say tests so far seem to link the illnesses in Mexico with a new swine flu virus that sickened eight people in the southern US.
The WHO's new emergency committee is now meeting - though health officials say it may be premature to advise against travel to Mexico.
The committee will be discussing whether to declare a public health emergency, and whether to raise the global pandemic alert level.
The WHO says it does not know the full risk yet.
It is advising all member states to be vigilant for seasonally unusual flu or pneumonia-like symptoms among their populations - particularly among young healthy adults, who seem to be the most affected in Mexico.
Officials said most of those killed so far were young adults - rather than more vulnerable children and the elderly.
Precautions
Schools, museums and libraries have been closed across the capital region and people are being urged to avoid shaking hands or sharing crockery.
All public events have been suspended, an official said. Two previously sold-out soccer matches were played in empty stadiums to avoid potentially spreading the virus.
And in the US, the White House said it was watching the situation.
Dr Richard Besser, acting director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), said that preliminary tests on seven out of 14 samples from patients in Mexico had matched the virus found in the US.
Eight people have fallen sick in the US - six in California and two in Texas - with a virus the WHO say was the same as the new strain of swine flu, designated H1N1.
All eight have recovered and only one was hospitalised.
The CDC said it planned to send experts to Mexico to help investigate the virus which has infected more than 1,000 people in the country.
Ms Chan confirmed the virus was an animal strain - a mixture of swine, human and avian flu viruses.
Swine flu is a respiratory disease which infects pigs. It does not normally infect humans, although sporadic cases do occur usually in people who have had close contact with pigs.
New Virus in Mexico - BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8018356.stm)
Some more links about the new virus: Some of these might be the same article just posted on different sites FYI
NY Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/26/world/americas/26mexico.html?ref=world)
World Health Organization (http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/en/index.html)
CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/25/swine.flu/index.html)
Associated Press (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MED_SWINE_FLU?SITE=MOSPL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT)
tibilicus
04-25-2009, 18:52
This is all Mexico needs.
Ravaged by the current drug war and now this...
:shame:
FactionHeir
04-25-2009, 18:53
Avian flu was a big scare too but didn't seem to be the great catastrophe is was prophecied to be. So based on that I'm not sure what to think.
One thing to be glad about though is that porcine influenza is not food borne, so happy feasting :grin:
Still, I have a feeling PETA might say something to the contrary anyway :laugh4:
Just like here in nothern California where people are "waiting" for the next big quake, it seems some are thinking this is the "super bug" that was/is due to come around again. True about the Avian Flu but I didn't expect it to get far, which it did not. Mexico seems to be doing a decent job of trying to keep it from spreading by closing off any major public gathering places or events, but considering how interconnected our world is, it would be no surprise if it makes it to dozens of other countries. Anyways, a school in NY thinks a bunch of their students caught it:
"Swine Flu" break out in NY school (http://wcbstv.com/health/swine.flu.nyc.2.994071.html)
Yeh... things are getting interesting down here.
"but considering how interconnected our world is"
Just think about México city airport... a plane takes off every minute.
Marshal Murat
04-25-2009, 21:47
Decker, I fail to see mention of....
1. The Book of Revelation and the date December 22nd, 2012
2. "It's because of those imperialist Yankee capitalists!"
You had me worried there, I thought you were talking about a computer virus. Having just nuked my hard drive and re-installed Windows XP after finding I could not beat whatever had infected my C: drive, well, I got all worked up at the mention of a new virus.
A biological virus? Oh, well, carry on.
Reverend Joe
04-25-2009, 22:20
It is advising all member states to be vigilant for seasonally unusual flu or pneumonia-like symptoms among their populations - particularly among young healthy adults, who seem to be the most affected in Mexico.
Oh, great. Another Spanish Flu. Just what we needed. :wall:
Edit: I just heard about the symptoms, and I swear, I've already had a flu like this at least 3 times this year. :dizzy2: Kinda scary.
A biological virus? Oh, well, carry on.
Not those 20 who died (40 deaths are not confirmed to be caused by the virus, yet)
Kadagar_AV
04-26-2009, 02:24
This is all Mexico needs.
Ravaged by the current drug war and now this...
:shame:
Current?
Also, war on drugs :cheerleader:
Is the war on drugs doing as good as the war on terrorism?
*yawn*
"war on drugs means fighting your own population"
Do you know why civilization started? Because people realised it was more nice growing crops to get wasted instead of being out hunting all day.
*it is alcohol I talk about*
ON TOPIC: 60 deaths isnt really an alarming number untill you have a "%"
How many percent of the afflicted died?
I mean, we allready have airborne stuff that kills 90% (Ebola).
How much worse can it get?
Marshal Murat
04-26-2009, 02:34
Obama=Antichrist (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aEsNownABJ6Q&refer=worldwide)
The first case was seen in Mexico on April 13. The outbreak coincided with the President Barack Obama’s trip to Mexico City on April 16. Obama was received at Mexico’s anthropology museum in Mexico City by Felipe Solis, a distinguished archeologist who died the following day from symptoms similar to flu, Reforma newspaper reported.
Kadagar_AV
04-26-2009, 02:45
Marshal Murat: At the same time, in the real world...
Yeh... i know, 60 deaths in an area with circa 20 millions is not that much... but they are still people.
"the death of one is a loss the death of many is a statistic" or something... nvm
At times like these I'm glad I live on a sparsely populated remote island. :thumbsup:
A Very Super Market
04-26-2009, 04:54
Makes it easier for the Kangaroos to get ya. Now in Canada, its too cold for them.
But the Moose are always watching us.....
a completely inoffensive name
04-26-2009, 04:55
"the death of a people is a loss the death of many is a statistic" or something... nvm
"The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic."
True that it may be just another virus to come around, and given that it is a type of flu (of which there are many), this strain just seems to have the bad habit of killing people, and apparently quite a few a that! Sadly, it does appear to be small at the moment, but the paranoia being spread by the media (as usual) is never going to help the situation or any for that matter. Right now at WHO's website, they have it at a level "3" alert (WHO's Alert levels (http://www.who.int/csr/disease/avian_influenza/phase/en/index.html)).
From the BBC, they have a serious of "letters" describing what's happening in Mexico City. The range of descriptions is interesting.
Letters to the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/8018428.stm)
Oh and here is an article about the flu in Kansas and about the flu in the US in general:
The Flu in the States (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30398682/)
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh my fear how I need it
Sheogorath
04-26-2009, 10:24
At times like these I'm glad I live on a sparsely populated remote island. :thumbsup:
I hear they've quarantined some people in New Zealand.
Thanks to air travel you're not so remote. Just expensive :gring:
FactionHeir
04-26-2009, 11:40
There was this idle thought I had about how the drug gangs put pig masks on their victims and this flu. Probably unrelated, but just thought I'd share.
aimlesswanderer
04-26-2009, 18:16
I must say that I was sure that my ancestral homeland of China would have been the source of the next big pandemic, given that all the other recent worries have originated/been centered there (SARS, bird flu etc). Though given government coverups something could be brewing in the dark....
I suppose that it is good that there aren't too many flights from here to Mexico, though if it loose across the pond...
Marshal Murat
04-26-2009, 20:00
Let's not test those on airplanes (http://lite.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N26491120.htm)
The United States is not testing airplane travelers from Mexico for the swine flu virus that has heightened fears of a possible pandemic, U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said on Sunday.
"Right now we don't think the facts warrant more active testing or screening of passengers coming in from Mexico," she said at a White House briefing.
It's not serious enough to test those flying in from Mexico, but serious enough to consider school closures and have a death toll of 86 people? :inquisitive:
FactionHeir
04-26-2009, 20:22
Someone needs to be sacked :yes:
US declares state of emergency and they don't want to screen airplanes from the hotbed origin? Hello? What's all that extra airport/DHS staff doing anyway?
In other news, The BA crew member did not have porcine influenza, but its suspected that a few people in Scotland (returning from Mexico) now do.
edyzmedieval
04-26-2009, 20:49
I'm actually scared about this new strain of flu.
Evil_Maniac From Mars
04-26-2009, 21:34
I'm not too worried. So far, it appears that we have at least two current antiviral drugs that are effective against it, that it is happening in small clusters of the population even though it is spread widely around the world, and all patients in the United States have recovered. Moreover, the declaration of Public Health Emergency is routine procedure for much less serious events if I recall correctly.
Sheogorath
04-27-2009, 00:19
I've heard the varients popping up outside Mexico are much more mild, in line with the standard flu. Apparently the problem with the strain in Mexico is that it causes an immune reaction, where the body attacks the lungs (hence why it affects people with strong immune systems more severely, and why most of the deaths were among healthy young adults.)
Samurai Waki
04-27-2009, 01:15
I'm not overly worried about it, one of the big things they mentioned that most of the cases involved was a lack of hygiene. Diseases typically find themselves in the unclean, unfortunately many people in 2nd and 3rd world countries don't have the same access to clean water as we do in the first world, so its more likely to be deadly in those places. Several people have already been hit in the US with the flu, but virtually none of them have died, and as far as it looks, to not be in any critical danger of dieing.
Makes me sad that Mexico isn't just a little more privileged in the clean water/sterile environment factor.
Strike For The South
04-27-2009, 02:04
Cull the herd! Cull the herd! Cull the herd!
I'm still not giving up pork. In fact I'm going to eat more. I want the swine flu.
Hooahguy
04-27-2009, 02:06
glad i tend to stay away from pigs...
You cant get infected by eating pork... or so I heard at the news.
Sheogorath
04-27-2009, 06:24
You cant get infected by eating pork... or so I heard at the news.
Of course, you'd have to question why somebody would eat raw pork in the first place.
Personally, in that case, I'd be more worried about trichinosis than the flu. The flu you can get better from. Worms eating your brain, though, generally even less pleasant than coughing, sneezing and stuffy nose.
I'm not overly worried about it, one of the big things they mentioned that most of the cases involved was a lack of hygiene. Diseases typically find themselves in the unclean, unfortunately many people in 2nd and 3rd world countries don't have the same access to clean water as we do in the first world, so its more likely to be deadly in those places. Several people have already been hit in the US with the flu, but virtually none of them have died, and as far as it looks, to not be in any critical danger of dieing.
Makes me sad that Mexico isn't just a little more privileged in the clean water/sterile environment factor.
That's what I was noticing. Looking at Mexico City and it's over population and crowdedness (especially in the letters from the BBC), it just seems to coincide with bad hygiene or cleanliness in general :inquisitive:
I haven't had time to read these but here are some recent articles on the situation:
BBC- World Moves to Contain The Flu (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8019882.stm)
BBC - The Fear of the Flu Spreads (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8019100.stm)
Interesting. Google Maps is apparently tracking the progress of the flu as it spreads.
Purple are confirmed and pink's are maybes.
Google Maps "Swine" Flu Tracker (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=p&msa=0&msid=106484775090296685271.0004681a37b713f6b5950&ll=37.71859,-92.460937&spn=48.015957,74.707031&z=3&source=embed)
Yahoo - The, "BIG ONE" (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090427/ap_on_bi_ge/med_swine_flu_reality_check)
Rhyfelwyr
04-27-2009, 09:26
Oh dear, two people have got it in Monklands Hospital, that's pretty close to where I live... :embarassed:
Keeps things interesting no? Getting pretty crowded anyway.
A worthwhile read (http://scienceblogs.com/effectmeasure/2009/04/swine_flu_what_did_you_expect.php#more) from a public health pro.
If there is normally so much respiratory disease around, why is this an outbreak or even an epidemic? It's a more difficult question than it appears, and it relates to "what did you expect?" An epidemic is an increase in the number of new cases beyond what you would expect. Four or five cases of human rabies in an area in the US would be an outbreak or even an epidemic. Hundreds of colds or even serious pneumonias in an urban area is normal. It's not an epidemic. What makes the swine flu an outbreak is that it is an infection with a virus we haven't seen before and which we believe may be new. Hence these cases are not what we expect and it is an outbreak. [...]
[O]ne big thing to know was emphasized by Acting CDC Director Richard Besser at the White House briefing yesterday: the influenza virus is highly unpredictable and our certain knowledge of it very scant. If you've seen one flu pandemic, you've seen one flu pandemic.
If this outbreak becomes a sustained worldwide one -- the definition of a pandemic -- you should not expect it to be the same as any other pandemic. It might be like 1918, 1957, 1968 or just a bad flu season. Or not.
Touchdown! Cases in Scotland, France, Spain, and it looks like here as well. 2010 was it huh :beam:
FactionHeir
04-27-2009, 19:50
That's 2 years too early :no:
King Henry V
04-27-2009, 20:23
Whilst we're waiting for humanity to be wiped out (again), anyone fancy a quick game of Pandemic (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/360724)?
Man, between the drug wars, the swine flu pandemic and the recent earthquake Mexico's hardcore Catholics must be going nuts. Hail Marys can be heard resonating across the countryside...
Cull the herd! Cull the herd! Cull the herd!
I'm still not giving up pork. In fact I'm going to eat more. I want the swine flu.
That which does not kill you makes you squeeeeeeaaaaalll like a pig!
FactionHeir
04-27-2009, 20:45
Whilst we're waiting for humanity to be wiped out (again), anyone fancy a quick game of Pandemic (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/360724)?
Pandemic 2 was much more fun :yes:
The thing with madagascar and all. (Played it on Kong that is)
Whilst we're waiting for humanity to be wiped out (again), anyone fancy a quick game of Pandemic (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/360724)?
Make fun of it all you want but I don't think people really understand how bad this really is, Dead Frontier is much better. I suggest going for a fireman first, the axe will give you a huge advantage.
Sheogorath
04-27-2009, 21:04
Pandemic 2 was much more fun :yes:
The thing with madagascar and all. (Played it on Kong that is)
https://i42.tinypic.com/qqamgn.jpg
:gring:
FactionHeir
04-27-2009, 21:56
:laugh4: exactly!
UPDATE
latest death tol is 149.though only 26 are confirmed to be from the swine flu, the others are likely or had similar symptoms
All scholar activities have been suspended, everything from kindergarten to universities nationwide are closed, and will remain so until May 6th.
Nurseries nationwide have also been closed.
The subway on the DF (federal district. AKA the capital) has been suspended too.
Every activity that involves large amounts of people in a certain area have been canceled, cinemas, bars, clubs, hell even the 1st of may parade has been canceled in the DF.
And to make things prettier, today there was a 5.7 Richter scale earthquake, which caused no damage though.
Things are getting interesting down here isn't it?
EDIT: As of now the virus has a 7% lethality, and fortunately the disease can be healed if infected people go to the medic as soon as they notice the symptoms.
You forgot that it's nothing to sweat about so just reopen everything :medievalcheers:
Nothing wrong here :sweatdrop:
A Q&A about the Swine Flu, tho I think it should be called the Mexican Flu considering its origins and its "uncanny" resemblance to the Spanish Influenza:
Independent - Q&A About the new Flu (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/swine-flu-who-is-at-risk-what-are-the-symptoms-1674740.html)
An article about its resemblance to the Spanish Influenza:
Independent - Basically the healthy young adults is the major similarity and concern (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/steve-connor-disturbing-echoes-of-the-great-1918-flu-pandemic-1674742.html)
Close Call No??:inquisitive: (read the Q&A tho first)
Independent - Obama gets a close call with the Flu (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/obamas-host-dies-from-flulike-symptoms-1674743.html)
Reverend Joe
04-28-2009, 01:56
Meh... if it's Spanish Flu #2, then more than likely we will know how to treat it. If it causes death by immunological reaction, as is commonly thought, all you need is immunosuppressive drugs and patience.
Personally, I'll just treat it with plenty of beer and a couple aspirin. That, and a trip to the doctor, just to make sure I shouldn't be living in a tent to keep from infecting everyone else. (Which begs the question... do they serve free beer in a hospital?)
Evil_Maniac From Mars
04-28-2009, 02:39
EDIT: As of now the virus has a 7% lethality, and fortunately the disease can be healed if infected people go to the medic as soon as they notice the symptoms.
What are the symptoms?
What are the symptoms?
Similar to ordinary human flu – cough, sudden fever, headache, muscle pains. In severe cases, it may lead to pneumonia, multi-organ failure, and death. The incubation period for ordinary human flu is two to five days. (http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/swine-flu-who-is-at-risk-what-are-the-symptoms-1674740.html)
Strike For The South
04-28-2009, 02:51
What are the symptoms?
An affinty for slop, mud and a pinkish hue.
Many people are really scared... damn media, they always exaggerate things...
People are crowding drugstores malls etc to get medicines and facemasks, in fact facemasks are sold out in most places.
"Fear causes more damage than the disease itself."
Though to be honest I was actually quite surprised to learn that yesterday at noon the death toll was 40, at night it was 70 something; today when I woke up it was already in 103, and today at noon I was actually shocked to learn that it had gone all the way up to 153. That's fast.
Evil_Maniac From Mars
04-28-2009, 03:40
Only around twenty cases are actually confirmed, so we're not sure how many of those are really swine flu deaths. There have already been negative tests in France and Australia on cases we suspected were swine flu.
Kadagar_AV
04-28-2009, 03:53
IMHO, this seems to be a pandemic in the media more than in the real world.
7% mortality rate (worst case scenario).
Ordinary medicine already stockpiled will save you, IF you are so unlucky you even get it in the first place.
*yawn*
And here I was hoping for an "end-of-the-world" scenario so I could finally gather all my contacts and make a vicous band of pillaging murderers out to rape and burn... Or not.
This story is dead except in the media, move on people :thumbsup:
Emperor of Graal
04-28-2009, 07:36
People at My school were talking about it, scared that Britian is going to be ravaged by the virus.
Personally I hope that Gordy won't mess this up like he has with other things.
Also is the Flu a mix of Pig, Avain, and normal Flu?
People say it is....
I'm scared I won't get to eat my Pork =(
Gordy would probably want to chip everyone with a detection-device, with GPS for quik reaction.
I am not worried in the slightest.
Shaka_Khan
04-28-2009, 08:22
I'm gloating at you scared ones because if this really is the big one then who would care that I gloated at you all? You'd all be too busy trying to survive. If I turn out to be correct then good for me.
120 confirmed deaths from pneumonia in Mexico - 20 of which are flu related? Meanwhile, in the same period of time 5000 people have died of malaria. Media hype. The 24 hour news stations must be creaming themselves over this.
*** sneezes ***
:creep:
This reminds me of the bird flu sillyness and the "alarming" newsflashes from [insert country] where they found the bodies of two ducks and a swan, who "supposedly" died of the dangerous blahblahblah...
Ja'chyra
04-28-2009, 10:43
I'm more concerned that the sensationalism created by the press is leading to a "Cry Wolf" scenario and when a serious threat actually does emerge no-one will care.
And about the 2 people in Scotland, I'm shocked people in Airdrie can afford to go to Mexico, chavs.
FactionHeir
04-28-2009, 11:16
Medic friend of mine said there's people cramming to buy the drug these days. Can't believe how fearful and gullible people are. No wonder politicians thrive.
ICantSpellDawg
04-28-2009, 13:05
Mexico is a sewer. Swine flu deaths have been recorded there ONLY; this is an overplayed load of garbage.
We don't have anything better to worry about than this.
Wake me up when hemorrhagic fever hits out shores.
Well, it just underlines what I thought for a while:
It's not going to be ourselves or something big like mammoth aliens or sabretooth octosquids from the deep sea that's going to wipe us out but micro "organisms" like bacteria and virii that are going to kill us.
Now we are close to having killer flus because they evolve so fast, so far they are not killing us but they seem to be evolving into that direction, then we have the antibiotic resistant bacteria that hardly get any attention but supposedly kill 40000-50000 people in german hospitals every year and who knows what comes next? :end:
Hooahguy
04-28-2009, 17:03
my question is why havent we closed our borders until the threat has passed like every other nation has?
my question is why havent we closed our borders until the threat has passed like every other nation has?
WHich other nation has my friend??
Hooahguy
04-28-2009, 17:15
as i understand it most countries arent allowing in people from Mexico or something. but my source may be wrong.
I think the South Koreans are being quite clever, using infrared cameras to spot people in the airport with elevated body temp. Simple. Elegant. Just the sort of thing we would never do.
as i understand it most countries arent allowing in people from Mexico or something. but my source may be wrong.
We've been trying this for years, but we haven't been very successful... ~D
Ironside
04-28-2009, 17:48
as i understand it most countries arent allowing in people from Mexico or something. but my source may be wrong.
You're not recommended to fly into Mexico in some countries (the other ones thinks that tourism will hurt too much for a mostly scare atm) and that's about it.
Anyway, let's move on to the really important stuff when it comes to this flu.
Swine flu is offensive according to jews and muslims (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30453557)
Hooahguy
04-28-2009, 20:53
Anyway, let's move on to the really important stuff when it comes to this flu.
Swine flu is offensive according to jews and muslims (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30453557)
wow. :rolleyes:
Swine flu also has something to do with Dems. So sayeth free-range cougar Michelle Bachman (http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/):
Bachmann, speaking on Pajamas TV (http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2009/04/bachmann_intere.php), noted: "I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out then under another Democrat president Jimmy Carter. And I'm not blaming this on President Obama, I just think it's an interesting coincidence."
The 1976 swine flu scare happened on Gerald Ford's watch.
We checked Wikipedia.
Ford was a Republican.
Why is she still in office ??
Swoosh So
04-28-2009, 23:14
Alot of worrying about nothing, care more how you cross the road...
Well it's a big scare here in NZ at the moment. Some kids came back from Mexico with it. Though I'm not worried about it (at least for myself), since I consider myself a fairly healthy individual, and so if I did get it, I'd probably be very sick but eventually recover. Or at least, that's what I'd like to think. :sweatdrop:
Marshal Murat
04-29-2009, 00:32
Guys, I hate to break it to ya, but we shouldn't call it "swine flu (http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N28343516.htm)".
At a news briefing, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack took pains to repeatedly refer to the flu as the "H1N1 virus."
"This is not a food-borne illness, virus. It is not correct to refer to it as swine flu because really that's not what this is about," Vilsack said.
Israel has already rejected the name swine flu, and opted to call it "Mexico flu." Jewish dietary laws forbid eating pork.
Reverend Joe
04-29-2009, 00:48
@Janet: Dude, we know.
I very seriously doubt anyone thinks it's food poisoning. Last I checked, you can't catch the flu through undercooked food, unless the person preparing it has the flu.
Big scare in SD county, a school's closed, and knowing the locals, one school is enough and then we have the cascade of closed schools and emergencies.
Guys, I hate to break it to ya, but we shouldn't call it "swine flu (http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N28343516.htm)".
Never underestimate the power of the pork lobby. Dance with the swine, you come out fine. Insult the hog and you will be dogged.
I think swine flu just gives Muslims and Jews another reason not to eat pork.
Hooahguy
04-29-2009, 03:04
there are people now who are accusing israel of putting out this virus because they claim that jews cant get it.
*groan*
Evil_Maniac From Mars
04-29-2009, 04:28
there are people now who are accusing israel of putting out this virus because they claim that jews cant get it.
*groan*
...there is at least one Israeli with it...
there are people now who are accusing israel of putting out this virus because they claim that jews cant get it.
*groan*
Well apparently there is at least one Israeli who got sick after eating a mexican, but you don't hear anything about that in the liberal media.
Ser Clegane
04-29-2009, 12:50
Well apparently there is at least one Israeli who got sick after eating a mexican
:scared:
Well apparently there is at least one Israeli who got sick after eating a mexican, but you don't hear anything about that in the liberal media.
I'm surprised too since you don't hear about cannibal jews that often in the media. :dizzy2:
First fatality in the US:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8024611.stm
Though the child probably got the virus in Mexico, it is still a significant milestone...
Sheogorath
04-29-2009, 22:50
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30398682/
Swine flu just leveled up.
+2 STR
+4 CON
+1 INT
Got the 'mass panic' feat.
Eh what? So first they say don't panic and closing airports is useless and now that I have calmed down they raise the alarm level and say we are all gonna die? :inquisitive: :end:
Seamus Fermanagh
04-29-2009, 23:28
The worrisome part is not the death rate (6.8% in Mexico, less than 5% in USA), but the ease of contagion. Apparently, this strain is as communicable as a typical rhinovirus.
Sheogorath
04-29-2009, 23:39
Eh what? So first they say don't panic and closing airports is useless and now that I have calmed down they raise the alarm level and say we are all gonna die? :inquisitive: :end:
Nah, only MOST of us are going to die. We wont ALL die until it hits phase 6 :tongueg:
a completely inoffensive name
04-29-2009, 23:41
What phase is the one where we all go blasting everyone we see Left 4 Dead style and somehow there are safe rooms with plenty of ammo, food and weapons everywhere? Oh and lot of random pills in rooms. That happens as well.
Alexander the Pretty Good
04-29-2009, 23:42
Pills here!
Prince Cobra
04-29-2009, 23:46
First, Gas crisis in Europe (and Bulgaria)
Second, World Financial Crisis
Now, World Virus Crisis...
(the earthquakes are not counted)
It's getting absurd.
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Is there any more detailed info on the symptoms and casualty rate? :vampire: :bow:
a completely inoffensive name
04-29-2009, 23:50
Pills here!
Grabbing pills!
First, Gas crisis in Europe (and Bulgaria)
Second, World Financial Crisis
Now, World Virus Crisis...
(the earthquakes are not counted)
It's getting absurd.
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Is there any more detailed info on the symptoms and casualty rate? :vampire: :bow:
DEATH, everybody. And those are just the lucky ones.
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/Fragony/picture.jpg
7 in mexico 1 in the usa
woad&fangs
04-30-2009, 02:28
At first I wasn't real worried about the swine flu. I figured it would be confined to Mexico, the south-west, and a few major cities. I heard that there was a confirmed case in Chicago this morning. I still wasn't too worried. Chicago is a major city with a lot of people going through it on a daily basis.
Apparently there are now confirmed cases in Milwaukee, WI. Granted, Milwaukee is basically a brat and beer loving suburb of Chicago but it was still really creepy to hear that. Before the news broke, one of my friends had plans in Milwaukee over the weekend. I'm really glad she's canceling:sweatdrop:
The US and Canada's flu response programs from state to state and province to province:
Flu Contingency Plans of US and Canada (http://homepage.mac.com/monotreme1/Prepare%20folder/Prepare%20State%20and%20Province.html)
The pandemic level rises:
The World Health Organization on Wednesday raised its pandemic alert to 5, its second-highest level, warning of widespread human infection from the swine flu outbreak that originated in Mexico.
Dr. Margaret Chan, the U.N. agency's director-general, said the decision to raise the alert on its 6-point scale indicated that all countries should "immediately" activate pandemic preparedness plans.
"This change to a higher phase of alert is a signal to governments, to ministries of health and other ministries, to the pharm industry and the business community that certain actions now should be taken with increased urgency and at an accelerated pace," Chan said.
The announcement came as the number of confirmed cases increased rapidly across the world.
The WHO and national governments have confirmed 148 cases in nine countries. Most of those cases are in the United States, where the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has confirmed 91 cases.
The figures include seven deaths in Mexico and one in the United States. More than 2,700 other patients worldwide are believed to be suffering from the virus that government officials call by its technical name, 2009 H1N1.
Researchers do not know how the virus is jumping relatively easily from person to person, or why it's affecting what should be society's healthiest demographic. Many of the victims who have died in Mexico have been young and otherwise healthy. Video Watch CNN's Wolf Blitzer interview Dr. Anne Schuchat of the CDC »
The outbreak has prompted Mexican authorities to order about 35,000 public venues in Mexico City to shut down and restrict restaurants to serving only take-out meals.
All nonessential government offices and private business were ordered to close between May 1-5, with only skeletal staffing allowed when necessary, Mexico's health secretary announced Wednesday.
Mexican officials said it was too soon to determine what kind of economic impact the decision would have on the country.
Germany and Austria became the latest European countries to report swine flu on Wednesday, while the number of cases increased in the United Kingdom and Spain. Peru reported its first case late Wednesday.
Yet Chan reiterated the WHO's recommendation not to close borders or restrict trade in response to the outbreak, saying the world "is better prepared for an influenza pandemic than at any time" in history. Video Watch how the U.S. is preparing for the worst »
"We need to maintain a level of calmness so that we will continue to manage this in a rational manner," she said, adding that pork is safe for consumption as long as it is cooked properly.
President Obama downplayed the possibility of closing the U.S. border with Mexico, where the recent occurrence of the deadly virus began, and said he'll be looking to health officials for guidance on how to handle travel between the two countries.
The $1.5 billion Obama requested from Congress to help fight the outbreaks will help health officials monitor and track the virus and replenish the supply of anti-viral drugs, he said. Video Watch President Obama caution Americans on swine flu »
Swine influenza, or flu, is a contagious respiratory disease that affects pigs. When the flu spreads person to person, instead of from animals to humans, it can continue to mutate, making it harder to treat or fight, because people have no natural immunity.
Symptoms include fever, runny nose, sore throat, nausea, vomiting and diarrhea.
The WHO's "Phases of Pandemic Alert," which has been in existence for five years, characterizes phase 5 as a human-to-human spread of the virus into at least two countries in one WHO region, signaling that a pandemic is imminent.
The highest level, phase 6, is defined by community-level outbreaks in at least one other country in a different WHO region, according to the agency.
About a quarter of the U.S. stockpile of anti-viral drugs will be distributed to states by Sunday, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said. Video Watch how U.S. officials are reacting to the virus »
U.S. officials also are asking scientists whether additional measures to screen for flu symptoms were needed at U.S. ports of entry, she said. Already, customs officers have asked 49 people to submit to tests for the H1N1 virus, she said. Of those tests, 41 have been negatives and the remaining eight have not yet come back.
Researchers in the United States have already taking steps to crack the genetic code of the virus behind the swine flu outbreak in order to produce a vaccine, U.S. officials said Wednesday.
The U.S. government is distributing 25 percent of its stockpile of antiviral medications Tamiflu and Relenza to all states, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Wednesday. Health officials stress that the medications are effective only if taken in the early stages of the infection. Learn more about swine flu and how to treat it »
The 91 confirmed cases in the United States includes the country's first swine flu fatality: a 22-month-old child visiting from Mexico who died Monday at a Houston, Texas, hospital.
A U.S. Marine in California is the military's first suspected case of swine flu, and three military family members in San Diego have confirmed cases, the CDC said.
As a precaution, the military is banning travel to Mexico for nonessential personnel.
The first cases of the virus were detected in Mexico, where health officials suspect swine flu in more than 150 other deaths and roughly 2,500 illnesses. Only 26 cases have so far been confirmed, including the seven fatal cases.
The deadly outbreak has prompted authorities to order about 35,000 public venues in Mexico City to shut down or serve only takeout meals as health officials tried to contain spreading of the virus. iReport.com: "Regular life" in Mexico with masks
Mexican officials also said they believe they may have found "patient zero" -- the first case of the global outbreak -- in the small mountain village of La Gloria.
Edgar Hernandez, 5, survived the earliest documented case of swine flu. He lives near a pig farm, though experts have not established a connection between that and his illness.
Edgar has managed to bounce back from his symptoms and playfully credits ice cream for helping him feel better.
In the United States, at least 74 elementary, junior high and high schools have closed across the country due to confirmed or probable cases of swine flu, the Department of Education said Wednesday.
Another 30 schools have closed as a precautionary measure, Department of Education spokesman Massie Ritsch said.
Governments around the world are scrambling to prevent further outbreak.
Some countries, such as China and Russia, have banned pork imports from the United States and Mexico, though the WHO said the disease is not transmitted through eating or preparing pig meat. Several other countries, such as Japan and Indonesia, are using thermographic devices to test the temperature of passengers arriving from Mexico.
Egypt reportedly is considering culling all pigs although there have been no reported cases of swine flu there.
Common seasonal flu kills 250,000 to 500,000 people every year worldwide, far more than the current outbreak of swine flu. But there is a vaccine for seasonal flu.
WHO Raises the pandemic level (http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/29/swine.flu/index.html?iref=mpstoryview)
The flu hits the Bay Area:
Flu Shuts Bay Area Schools; New Local Cases
Two Bay Area schools will be closed for a week after four students were diagnosed with probable cases of swine flu, while three additional cases may have emerged in Santa Clara County.
The Santa Clara County Department of Health announced three more probable cases of swine flu Wednesday, in additional to a 16-year-old girl previously announced. At least two of the new cases had recently traveled to Mexico.
San Jose's Branham High School will be closed for a week after one of its students tested positive for the swine flu, according to the Campbell Union High School District. It was not clear whether the student is the 16-year-old girl.
School district officials closed the school to limit possible exposure after the student became sick last week. The student -- who was not identified -- was last in school Thursday.
The school is scheduled to reopen on May 6. Seven days is the regular incubation period for the virus, according to the school district.
Santa Clara County officials are still waiting on more than a dozen other samples that are possible swine flu cases.
In Contra Costa County, officials shut down an elementary school in Pittsburg after tests revealed three fourth-graders have probable cases on swine flu.
Barbara Wilson, the superintendent of the Pittsburg Unified School District, said teachers contacted parents Tuesday night to tell them the school will be closed for one week.
Officials say 13 children from Highlands Elementary School either called in sick or were sent home Tuesday with flu-like symptoms. All of the children are in the same fourth-grade class.
Officials say one student in the class was recently visited by a relative from Mexico.
There are two other probable Bay Area cases of swine flu, both in Marin County. A 60-year-old woman and her 20-month-old granddaughter were diagnosed with the Bay Area's first confirmed cases of swine flu, local health officials said Tuesday.
The woman and her granddaughter had recently traveled with other family members to Mexico, where the virus is believed to have originated.
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger declared a state of emergency in response to the virus Tuesday morning.
A state of emergency allows the California Emergency Management Agency to start working with the state Department of Public Health to prevent the disease from spreading, governor's spokesman Jeff Macedo said.
California health authorities have confirmed 14 cases of swine flu statewide and are investigating at least 17 others as probable cases.
The Pentagon says a Marine based in Southern California has been confirmed to be ill with swine flu and is under quarantine, along with his roommate.
A Marine spokesman at the Pentagon, Maj. David Nevers, said Wednesday the sick Marine is doing well and his condition continues to improve.
Nevers said approximately 30 others who had been in contact with the sick Marine at the Twentynine Palms base will be held in quarantine for five days as well as to see whether they show symptoms.
Dr. Gil Chavez of the state health department said Wednesday that seven of the confirmed cases were in San Diego County and five were in Imperial County. Sacramento and San Bernardino counties had one each.
Chavez says state officials are investigating 17 probable cases in eight counties. Riverside County, with four, has the highest number of suspected swine flu cases.
He described the cases in California so far as mild. Of all confirmed and probable cases, only three have required hospitalization.
California Department of Public Health Chief Deputy Director Dr. Bonnie Sorensen said Tuesday that swine flu and regular flu produce practically the same symptoms -- a fever of at least 100 degrees and a cough or sore throat -- there is no red flag that a person has the virus.
Residents are urged to see a doctor if such symptoms are noticed. Health officials have said the illness appears to be treatable.
The South Bay (http://cbs5.com/local/swine.flu.schools.2.997218.html)
And apparently it's also in Richmond :no: ~:confused:
CountArach
04-30-2009, 03:45
Mexico shuts down economy (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/04/30/2556965.htm)
The Mexican Government has called for non-essential parts of the economy to shut down for five days from tomorrow to help combat the swine flu outbreak.
Mexico's Health Minister Jose Angel Cordova has raised the country's confirmed number of flu cases to 99, including eight confirmed dead, but says another 17 people are believed to have died from the disease.
Mr Cordova said food, medical and transportation sectors would not be affected by the partial shutdown of the economy.
Banking and other financial services will also be allowed to operate although some government activities will be shut down.
Mexico shuts down economy (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/04/30/2556965.htm)
Woooow....
This morning US President Barack Obama said there were no plans to close America's border with Mexico.
"It would be akin to closing the barn door after the horses are out because we already have cases here in the United States," he said. So we just sit and watch as a potentially deadly new flu is given the green light to run amok? If that is true, and what would happen say, if this passes "harmlessly" and the real thing comes along?
Seamus Fermanagh
04-30-2009, 04:48
Enough with the facebook folks, or open a new thread for it on its own.
I wonder if this is because of the different medical abilities or what but I find it interesting that here in the US we have 91 confirmed cases while Mexico appears to only have 26 (that's 65 fewer than us atm). I wonder then, how many people actually and truly have this "flu" in Mexico.
BBC Timeline of the spread of the Flu (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8021547.stm)
Here is the official website from the WHO (World Health Organization) that is devoted to the "Swine Flu":Swine Influenza Website - WHO (http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/en/index.html)
Banquo's Ghost
04-30-2009, 07:13
The discussions on anti-Semitism have been moved to a new thread.
Please let's keep on topic.
Thank you kindly.
:bow:
I wonder if this is because of the different medical abilities or what but I find it interesting that here in the US we have 91 confirmed cases while Mexico appears to only have 26 (that's 65 fewer than us atm). I wonder then, how many people actually and truly have this "flu" in Mexico.
BBC Timeline of the spread of the Flu (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8021547.stm)
Here is the official website from the WHO (World Health Organization) that is devoted to the "Swine Flu":Swine Influenza Website - WHO (http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/en/index.html)
As of now, laboratories in Mexico are not capable of recognizing the swine flu. Those 26 confirmed cases are the samples that were sent to the US for identification.
As for the "closing the economy", those mesures have only been taken in the DF (federal district, the capitol) and several other states. It's not nationwide.
As of now, laboratories in Mexico are not capable of recognizing the swine flu. Those 26 confirmed cases are the samples that were sent to the US for identification.
That's what I figured
As for the "closing the economy", those measures have only been taken in the DF (federal district, the capitol) and several other states. It's not nationwide.
And yeah I read that...
Prince Cobra
04-30-2009, 10:00
DEATH, everybody. And those are just the lucky ones.
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/Fragony/picture.jpg
7 in mexico 1 in the usa
:inquisitive:
Hmm, I was left with the impression abou 10 per cent of the infected died. Once I am back from Uni, I will make a little research...
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090430135310AABaZwe
But in seriousness, I believe, just like the bird flu this is all over exaggerated, apparently victims are responding well to tamiflu vaccination, there, sorted already.
Media has a habit of making things seem worse than they actually are :mean:.
Well it seems that appropriate labs have been set. Now it seems (IIRC:sweatdrop:) that the toll is 160 confirmed cases and 7 confirmed deaths caused by the flu.
Anyways, have any of you heard about the conspiracy theories?
Well it seems that appropriate labs have been set. Now it seems (IIRC:sweatdrop:) that the toll is 160 confirmed cases and 7 confirmed deaths caused by the flu.
Anyways, have any of you heard about the conspiracy theories?
No, but I've heard Egypt are slaughtering all there pigs and they don't even have any cases of it yet?
How stupid! and how sad for the pigs. :mean:
No, but I've heard Egypt are slaughtering all there pigs and they don't even have any cases of it yet?
How stupid! and how sad for the pigs. :mean:
Considering there are only 20,000-ish pigs in Egypt, culling the pig population is an ideal way for the Egyptian government to appear to do something yet actually not doing much (although human-to-human transference is much more dangerous IMO).
No, but I've heard Egypt are slaughtering all there pigs and they don't even have any cases of it yet?
How stupid! and how sad for the pigs. :mean:
it's probably just an excuse to clamp down on the local christians. To take away their bacon literally and figuratively.
Rhyfelwyr
04-30-2009, 22:47
Hmm, a secondary school just a few miles from where I lived has been closed down for 2 weeks, that is bound to cause chaos during the exam period. Scotland seems to be quite the hotspot for this flu.
Hmm, a secondary school just a few miles from where I lived has been closed down for 2 weeks, that is bound to cause chaos during the exam period. Scotland seems to be quite the hotspot for this flu.
I only heard of it 2 days ago, are they sure they have it or is it just precautionary?
I think one of the students travelled to Mexico and got infected. (I think so anyway... or am I getting confused with another case in England?)
You know how this sort of thing gets started ...
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Lemurmania/SwineFlu.jpg
Hosakawa Tito
05-01-2009, 00:59
Survivors of this flu seem to be displaying curious side effects...https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/hoppy84/hogs.jpg
Well, from what I heard on the radio, health officials are not as much afraid of the current virus itself but the fact that more human infections mean there is a higher chance that the virus actually mutates into a human killer virus.
Gentlemen, go get your shotguns.
The virus is mutating and is turning people into zombies.
(http://bouncewith.me.uk/europe/8027043.htm)
There has been a small outbreak of “zombism” in London due to mutation of the H1N1 virus into new strain: H1Z1.
Similar to a scare originally found in Cambodia back in 2005 (http://web.archive.org/web/20050428004220/http://65.127.124.62/south_asia/4483241.stm.htm), victims of a new strain of the swine flu virus H1N1 have been reported in London.
After death, this virus is able to restart the heart of it’s victim for up to two hours after the initial demise of the person where the individual behaves in extremely violent ways from what is believe to be a combination of brain damage and a chemical released into blood during “resurrection.”
The World Health Organization (WHO) has raised the alert to phase six [has it?, I don't really remember], its highest level, and advised governments to activate pandemic contingency plans.
In Mexico, the epicentre of the outbreak, President Felipe Calderon urged people to stay at home over the next five days.
There are many cases elsewhere - including the US, Canada, Latin America, Europe, Israel, and New Zealand.
BBC health correspondent Mark McGrith says the raising of the WHO alert on Wednesday suggests a global epidemic, or pandemic, is imminent.
In the latest developments:
The Netherlands confirms its first case of zombie swine flu, in a three-year-old boy recently returned from Mexico. After passing away early this morning, he rose from the dead and lunged at his mother.
Ghana has become the latest country to ban pork imports as a precaution against swine flu, though no cases have been found in the West African country
China's health minister says that the country's scientists have developed a "sensitive and fast" test for spotting swine flu in conjunction with US scientists and the WHO. The country has recorded no incidence of the flu yet. There methods, however, have been uneffective in spotting the H1Z1 strain.
SHould this be on "news of the weird" thread? :inquisitive:
More like the News of The Onion thread.
Considering there are only 20,000-ish pigs in Egypt, culling the pig population is an ideal way for the Egyptian government to appear to do something yet actually not doing much (although human-to-human transference is much more dangerous IMO).
More like 300,000 pigs.
BBC: Egyptian pig farmers have clashed with police in Cairo, as they tried to stop their animals being slaughtered. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8031490.stm)
The Egyptian authorities will probably take the pigs into some dark dungeon and torture them before killing them. Old habits die hard.
Gentlemen, go get your shotguns.
The virus is mutating and is turning people into zombies.
(http://bouncewith.me.uk/europe/8027043.htm)
There has been a small outbreak of “zombism” in London due to mutation of the H1N1 virus into new strain: H1Z1.
Similar to a scare originally found in Cambodia back in 2005 (http://web.archive.org/web/20050428004220/http://65.127.124.62/south_asia/4483241.stm.htm), victims of a new strain of the swine flu virus H1N1 have been reported in London.
After death, this virus is able to restart the heart of it’s victim for up to two hours after the initial demise of the person where the individual behaves in extremely violent ways from what is believe to be a combination of brain damage and a chemical released into blood during “resurrection.”
The World Health Organization (WHO) has raised the alert to phase six [has it?, I don't really remember], its highest level, and advised governments to activate pandemic contingency plans.
In Mexico, the epicentre of the outbreak, President Felipe Calderon urged people to stay at home over the next five days.
There are many cases elsewhere - including the US, Canada, Latin America, Europe, Israel, and New Zealand.
BBC health correspondent Mark McGrith says the raising of the WHO alert on Wednesday suggests a global epidemic, or pandemic, is imminent.
In the latest developments:
The Netherlands confirms its first case of zombie swine flu, in a three-year-old boy recently returned from Mexico. After passing away early this morning, he rose from the dead and lunged at his mother.
Ghana has become the latest country to ban pork imports as a precaution against swine flu, though no cases have been found in the West African country
China's health minister says that the country's scientists have developed a "sensitive and fast" test for spotting swine flu in conjunction with US scientists and the WHO. The country has recorded no incidence of the flu yet. There methods, however, have been uneffective in spotting the H1Z1 strain.
SHould this be on "news of the weird" thread? :inquisitive:
So this is how Left 4 Dead starts.
Hooahguy
05-03-2009, 22:52
So this is how Left 4 Dead starts.
let me get my shotgun...
a completely inoffensive name
05-03-2009, 23:24
So this is how Left 4 Dead starts.
Pills here!
Dutch_guy
05-03-2009, 23:26
Considering there are only 20,000-ish pigs in Egypt, culling the pig population is an ideal way for the Egyptian government to appear to do something yet actually not doing much (although human-to-human transference is much more dangerous IMO).
It's especially useless as the virus doesn't transfer from pig to man via direct contact, it's not an airborn virus or anything like that. People there could potentially get it from eating or direct contact with swine faeces, but other than that it isn't all that easily acquired.
The Egyptian authorities will probably take the pigs into some dark dungeon and torture them before killing them. Old habits die hard.
:laugh4:
:balloon2:
It's especially useless as the virus doesn't transfer from pig to man via direct contact, it's not an airborn virus or anything like that. People there could potentially get it from eating or direct contact with swine faeces, but other than that it isn't all that easily acquired.
Perhaps (http://uk.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUKTRE54218520090503)...
Maybe history will absolve his majesty, the grand president-for-life, Mubarak of Egypt, for unleashing his terror apparatus on the little piggies? :juggle2: ;)
Hosakawa Tito
05-04-2009, 00:09
It's especially useless as the virus doesn't transfer from pig to man via direct contact, it's not an airborn virus or anything like that. People there could potentially get it from eating or direct contact with swine faeces, but other than that it isn't all that easily acquired.
:laugh4:
:balloon2:
You might want to read this. (http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/05/03/swine.flu.canada/index.html?eref=rss_topstories)
BBC- WHO: It can come again in winter, don't forget about it (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8032094.stm) <- That's pretty much what they have been saying for the past few weeks.
CountArach
05-04-2009, 12:30
Far more importantly - anyone want to take a bet (http://economics.com.au/?p=3297) on how many cases of Swine Flu in the US? Those are some pretty sweet odds.
Strike For The South
05-04-2009, 17:57
No way we hit 10,000. What are the odds?
Dutch_guy
05-04-2009, 23:53
You might want to read this. (http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/05/03/swine.flu.canada/index.html?eref=rss_topstories)
While this indeed indicates that there is a documented case where that might have been the cause of infection, this is not yet considered to be a common path the virus takes to spread.
:balloon2:
Hosakawa Tito
05-05-2009, 00:57
While this indeed indicates that there is a documented case where that might have been the cause of infection, this is not yet considered to be a common path the virus takes to spread.
:balloon2:
Evans and other officials said it is not uncommon for flu viruses to jump from humans to animals and that it does not pose a risk for consuming pork. The number of pigs infected was not disclosed.
Just saying.
CountArach
05-06-2009, 11:54
No way we hit 10,000. What are the odds?
35:1 the way I read it.
Strike For The South
05-06-2009, 21:27
35:1 the way I read it.
Oh God. I need to find my bookie
Afghanistan's Only Pig Quarantined (http://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idUSTRE5444XQ20090505)
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/Lemurmania/OnlyPig.jpg
KABUL - Afghanistan's only known pig has been locked in a room, away from visitors to Kabul zoo where it normally grazes beside deer and goats, because people are worried it could infect them with the virus popularly known as swine flu. [...]
There are no pig farms in Afghanistan and no direct civilian flights between Kabul and Mexico.
"We understand that, but most people don't have enough knowledge. When they see the pig in the cage they get worried and think that they could get ill," Saqib said.
The pig was a gift to the zoo from China, which itself quarantined some 70 Mexicans, 26 Canadians and four Americans in the past week, but later released them.
Some visitors were not concerned about the fate of the pig and said locking it away was probably for the best.
"Influenza is quite contagious and if it passes between people and animals then there's no need for the pig to be here," zoo visitor Farzana said.
Lady's and gentlemen, we got him
I invite you to read more about the living conditions of the so-called "quarantine" made by the Chinese government .
At least the mexicans were put in, as the "infected" people said, in motels with stains of drinks, food and bad smell. The bathrooms didnt even have soap.
They were left there against their will, without presenting ANY symptom, for 10 days. There was a family that the Chinese attempted to separate, putting the 3 under-8 years old children in a room and their father at another. Non of them even had symptoms, not even normal flu ones.
Now the Chinese government sent a plane to pickup 100 Chinese people from Mexico.
PershsNhpios
05-07-2009, 10:40
Is any of this actually serious?
I invite you to read more about the living conditions of the so-called "quarantine" made by the Chinese government .
At least the mexicans were put in, as the "infected" people said, in motels with stains of drinks, food and bad smell. The bathrooms didnt even have soap.
They were left there against their will, without presenting ANY symptom, for 10 days. There was a family that the Chinese attempted to separate, putting the 3 under-8 years old children in a room and their father at another. Non of them even had symptoms, not even normal flu ones.
Now the Chinese government sent a plane to pickup 100 Chinese people from Mexico.
Hmmm... none of my feeds got any articles on bad living conditions of those quarantined - NYtimes, Time, Telegraph, Guardian and the BBC said nothing about it :sweatdrop: The BBC did have an article on how a British tourist was sent to a luxurious holiday camp though...
Also, although SOME of the preventative measures were obviously stupid, you have to remember that people in China had suffered through SARS and Avian Flu (sorta), where in both cases lack of action led to deaths. Hence, it would entirely reasonable to an average Chinese citizen to agree with the government's measures. Don't forget also that Influenza A has a long incubation period - up to 7 days! So, many on the plane with the 1st infected case in China could have potentially got the virus without showing any symptoms. So therefore I support the quarantine of passengers, but not with the other blatantly stupid things that some officials has done... (Like qurantining all Mexican citizens...!)
PS: One of my friend's sister's school is closed due to swine flu...
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