What was your most heroic victory?

[alexanderthegreater]

What was your coolest victory ever? Post pictures if you can, and explain how you achieved it.

Mine? well i had many :2thumbsup: heroic victories are easiest when defending against sieges (phalanx in da street) or when defending bridges.

But my most recent one was while playing with the Getai, I had just recruited 4 units of tarabostes and tried them out against an eleutheroi stack to see if they were any good.
The eleutheroi stack: 1 unit of hippeis, 1 unit of dacian light phalanx, 2 units of triballi infantry.
I splitted up my cavalry, so the ai splitted up its infantry and hippeis to engage each of my parts individually.
But now its hippeis were far away from its infantry so I wheeled around and charged them from 2 sides. In the cavalry battle I incredibly took not a single casualty while the hippeis took 83 then fled.

After that it was running around with one cavalry unit at a time (the one that was being pursued) then after AI units where all exhausted and mine still warmed up I took them out one by one.

http://www.freewebs.com/files_rings/CAVALRY.bmp

So you boys and girls NEVER complain about cavalry being to weak or expensive ever again.

[Jebivjetar]

I will never forget this one. I was playing with Pontos, and that annoying AS stacks made me extremely mad, so i went with my most powerful army into their territory. But that rich and powerful AS blocked one bridge (with fulstack of phalanxes and 2 FMs). As i said, i was mad and thirsty for revenge, and I've attacked them even i was slightly outnumbered and even the enemy had that huge advantage with phalanxes holding the bridge . It was clear butchering: i have lost most of my army, because AS phalanxes were stronger than mine natives, and their FMs with 40-50 bodyguards just butchered my men. After all i made it, even i thought i was going to lose there. Field was full of corpses from both sides, and i had my Phyric victory: but i was proud :whip:

https://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3075/butchering.jpg

[delablake]

an entrenched consular legion of my brave Polybians, aided by socii and mercenaries, repelled the attack of 4 Quarthadastim fullstacks...luckily for me they came one after the other

[Zradha Pahlavan]

Playing as the Lusitanians, I had attacked Carthage and gained a foothold in Africa. In response, they sent a full stack of various elite cavalry and infantry, plus three groups of elephants. My army had been engaged in rather hard fights recently and was mostly depleted, and it wasn't exactly on par with the Carthaginian one anyways, consisting mostly of medium troops and numidian skirmishers.

Fortunately, they followed a predictable route, and when they wandered up to the city, they were ambushed by my troops right in front of it. Their army was attacked from all sides, and I had my numidians kill their elephants in the first moments of the battle, and then they turned on the Carthaginian general's unit and killed him. The enemy phalanxes held out for a little while but not even elite troops can fight off an attack from all sides. The battle ended fairly quickly.

Enemy dead was 3000 and something. I had lost about 250 men, not counting wounded guys who healed later. Only 6o or so enemy troops escaped the massacre.

[athanaric]

Playing as the Saka Rauka, 1.2, H/M. On the way to Sulek, my Faction leader and heir plus a smallish group of light cavalry (edit: actually 1 unit of Early Saka Nobles and 2 units of Saka light HAs) were ambushed by a large Eleutheroi stack from Gava-Haomavarga. Being taken completely by surprise (which also meant I couldn't order my troops before the battle), I had no chance but to fight the battle. My 460 riders vs. a mixed infantry/HA stack of 1819 men deployed all around my troops. Here's the result:

https://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8268/victorye.jpg (https://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=victorye.jpg)

[Apázlinemjó]

https://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt196/Adamka/anyad.jpg

This is from RTW vanilla, fighting against Carthage. They had only light infrantry and peasants, it was a funny battle.

https://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt196/Adamka/hohopontusbaby.jpg

This is from RTR. I held the hill, while the three Seleucid army attacked me from three sides in the same time. Slingers and the phalanxes saved the day.

https://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt196/Adamka/0000.jpg

From EB. The Seleucid army held the hill, I was lucky since they didn't have real cavalry, only the BGs. Hammer and Anvil tactic won the fight for me.

https://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt196/Adamka/0003.jpg

EB, roleplaying. I disbanded the starting army and sit down in the capital. After a few years, AS attacked me. They had one Pezo and 2 native phalanxes, some skirmisher and slinger units and an FM, it was funny to see them routing as my BGs overwhelmed them. Sadly my king died in the battle.

[Cullhwch]

Alexander's royal army was attacked by FOUR full stack armies while it laid siege to Sardis. My original goal was to lure Darius Codomannus into a decisive battle there, but he just sent four captains to do the job. These four captains commanded a combined total of over 13,000 men (huge unit settings). I experienced this two years ago. To this very day, I have yet to see any screenshot that details a larger campaign victory.

https://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7334/alexanderyu4.jpg

https://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4974/massivevictorystatszi0.jpg

[Jebivjetar]

[QUOTE=Apázlinemjó;2232082]https://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt196/Adamka/anyad.jpg



Oh, i remember those vanilla mercenaries from pea-town :dizzy2:

[Fluvius Camillus]

Alexander's royal army was attacked by FOUR full stack armies while it laid siege to Sardis. My original goal was to lure Darius Codomannus into a decisive battle there, but he just sent four captains to do the job. These four captains commanded a combined total of over 12,000 men (huge unit settings). I experienced this two years ago. To this very day, I have yet to see any screenshot that details a larger campaign victory.

https://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7334/alexanderyu4.jpg

https://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4974/massivevictorystatszi0.jpg

Dude that is a spectacular one!:2thumbsup:

I have never seen such an enourmous battle, congrats on your victory! I will be honoured if you accept this balloon!

:balloon3:

~Fluvius

[Macilrille]

Hmmm... I do not actually have any idea which one was the largest. both in vanilla and EB I have an average of one every 3-4th year or so. That is a lot over the course of a campaign. None really distinguishes itself like the one of Cullhwch. They all blend in my malware-infected memory ;-)

So, I cannot compete in this, but there are some nice ones posted indeed.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Meh, vanilla battles are too easy. Enemy routs right away. So do one's own troops, but a human is much better in battlefield tactics. I remember that time when after playing EB for a year, I go Alexander expansion. I was attacked by two barbarian armies, who outnumbered me 3:1. The battle was a joke, despite the fact that their army was composed of very good troops, not just levies. Their units simply routed on contact.

The easiest battles I had in vanilla were with the Roman improved bodyguards. Those blokes were immense tanks, all the better because of their experience. And I was fighting in Iberia, where the Spanish (hehe) had no spear units at all. An entire faction with not a single spear unit. The Town Militia did not count either, because their spears were only good for killing peasants. So anyway, I remember time when I won victory after victory over 1500+ men armies against my two BGs, 26 men each. It was not even amusing. I charged and destroyed their armies with inconceivable impunity.

So those victories did not count for much. As for my EB Heroic Victories, I have many of my own, most from my previous long-lasting Romani campaign, so I have forgotten most of them by now, and the screenshots I took are useless since I had Anti-Antialiasing on. Now I have Fraps, so everythign is recorded.

[Cullhwch]

Dude that is a spectacular one!:2thumbsup:

I have never seen such an enourmous battle, congrats on your victory! I will be honoured if you accept this balloon!

:balloon3:

~Fluvius

Hah! Thanks. You know, we could turn this into a sort of contest. If anyone can post a heroic victory of a bigger campaign battle in the open field, I will bow before his tactical prowess and he'd impress damn near everyone on this board.

[seienchin]

Hah! Thanks. You know, we could turn this into a sort of contest. If anyone can post a heroic victory of a bigger campaign battle in the open field, I will bow before his tactical prowess and he'd impress damn near everyone on this board.
Does it get any bigger? :juggle2:
I would gratulate you, if I would have never played the Alexander Battle at Hydaspes. Everyone, who has beaten that 3 9Goldchevron Elephants gets a ballon from me :balloon2:

[Cullhwch]

Does it get any bigger? :juggle2:
I would gratulate you, if I would have never played the Alexander Battle at Hydaspes. Everyone, who has beaten that 3 9Goldchevron Elephants gets a ballon from me :balloon2:

That battle is a BITCH, though I personally found Issus to be a bit more challenging before I learned how to game the AI. You have to almost completely ignore the first crossing point, but put a unit of archers there purely to pin the Indians there as well, and take the rest of your army to the secondary crossing ASAP. Use Alex and the Companions to obliterate their light cavalry and whatever light units follow quickly, but withdraw into your own phalanxes when the scythe chariots and elephants give chase. Chariots die immediately when they touch pikes, so that shouldn't be too tough. The eles will be a different matter, though if you're lucky they'll get pinned in the phalanx and you can annihilate them with javelins. The whole affair is seriously touch-and-go, and on Medium difficulty I don't think I've ever had less than 33% of my army KIA. I'd imagine that it would be nigh-impossible to win on Hard or Very Hard unless you managed to get extremely lucky in pinning the Indians with the phalanx.

[Celtic_Punk]

fighting the persians as baktria. they sieged us with 3 fullstacks. I had 2 levy phalanxes and 3 generals. One of them was my main general, had 4 stars and 2 gold chevrons. I put the phalanxes on the 2 main roads and positioned my generals to charge anything that comes through the street. eventually they began breaking through the main road, which was a straight line from the gate. The right flank held firm and took everything they threw at them. so they focused on the main road. I had to charge my generals into the fray, and the street became a disorganized deathmatch, the phalanx was messed up and had the majority were using their axes. The battle was long and epic, thousands of persians died, hundreds of our guys died. fair trade. they started to break through so i sent my best general around the through the street they failed to get through, and put the phalanx there into the fight. the General got to the top of the street, and the trapped routers went nuts! big charge down wide street. destroyed the rear ranks of them, i told them to go to the square, so they pushed forward with their swords and cut through the persians. hardly any of them survived out of the thousands that attacked..

did this on huge / medium

[Olaf The Great]

Playing as the Byzantines in the Late Period(Medieval 1) Nicaea was attacked right after I invaded some other territory, the only unit I had was ONE unit of Peasants in the field, I think they had about 4 units of some type of swordsman and the general.
Just because I was bored, I decided to actually fight the battle.
The Generals bodyguard charged the peasants in the first minute and the general himself died on contact...I have no idea how but he must have been important because the entire army routed right after that.

It was awesome.

[Tanit]

In a previous Carthage campaign I bribed a Roman General sent against me in Sicily who I then sent to conquer all of Italy. He did so in record time with back up forces moving in to hold the cities he captured. The most tense battle I fought against the Romans was outside of Rome itself as I was besieging it. This campaign was either H/H or VH/VH, I can't recall.

https://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6904/ididit.th.png (https://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ididit.png)

I then sent him to secure northern Italy where he fought one of the largest Eleutheroi armies I've ever faced. It was a perfect plan. I let them come to me under heavy missile fire before enacting a perfectly timed counter charge that broke their ranks and allowed me to crush them utterly.

https://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5656/eleutheroiwooped.th.png (https://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eleutheroiwooped.png)

After this I repaired his army and I was going to send him to Britain to conquer but that was when the campaign was lost to a corrupt save. It was probably my favourite campaign I ever played.

[Mithick666]

Cullhwch congratulation for your victory it was amazing, and too for Tanit 21casualtys i do not have words :2thumbsup:

i had many heroic victory but without any picture
maybe this but the pic is very low quality and the 2, i do not know why it was not a heroic victory.

https://img7.imageshack.us/img7/29/dsc00002yer.jpg

https://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7973/dsc00001cpn.jpg

[alexanderthegreater]

21 casualties? I only had 4 (of which i healed 1) :P

[Silence Hunter]

This one is from my ongoing Hayasdan campaign:

https://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh32/Artax0214/RomeTW-ALX2009-04-0500-35-31-96.jpg

It wouldn't be such an interesting battle if I was defender, but here I was attacking. The first army I faced forced me to engage asap as they had 2 units of scorpions who were obliterating my light troops and almost killed my general (I closed on to the general's unit riding on the flank of the enemy just to be shocked to see 2 bodyguards right next to my king die from a scorpion shot). As I play with unlimited men on battle field, the second enemy army arrived into the field while I was still closing to engage the first one. It was an interesting battle involving a lot of maneuvering and tactics to beat the enemy. I was proud to win that one :sweatdrop:

[Fluvius Camillus]

Does it get any bigger? :juggle2:
I would gratulate you, if I would have never played the Alexander Battle at Hydaspes. Everyone, who has beaten that 3 9Goldchevron Elephants gets a ballon from me :balloon2:

I did, King Porus ran into my Phalanghlites and died! The others then routed after a phalanx, javelin and cavalry charge move.

I dont have any pics because I did not find the battle that hard... Fougth it 3 times and won twice.

Should I win again and proof it with a pic or are you going to believe me on my word?

Aemilius Paulus, you are right.

I remember hosting a custom battle. I was the house of Julii and made a nice Polybian manipular army, against a Gallic army. I tried not to fight tactically but historically...

My triarii fled on touch with a warband....:dizzy2:

~Fluvius

[machinor]

My most heroic and epic battles were in Medieval (I) Total War (with Viking Expansion). I was Russia, preparing my kingdom for the arrival of the Mongols. If you have ever played Medieval Total War and experienced the Mongols there you know FEAR. Their armies were massive, several fullstacks full of their superior heavy cavalry (kinda like cataphracts), innumerable heavy archers, gunmen and quite some artillery. In Medieval Total War, the AI was quite good, especially in battles. Usually I would retreat until their armies were thinned out over a large area, however this time I decided to risk it all in an all-or-nothing-battle. So I massed my armies, 3 fullstacks of mainly heavy spearmen and arabalests plus some medium steppe cavalry and boyars (basically armoured horse archers). The battle was a slaughter. It was quite close but then I managed to kill their Khan and their whole army broke apart. It was one of the bloodiest battles I've ever had.
However my most glorious battle was against the Turks. In the very same campaign the Turks had been eradicated by the Byzantines and the Egyptians. After I had survived the Mongol invasion, I left one fullstack in Khazan to guard my border with Egypt; the rest of the army was either put in garrisons throughout my kingdom or disbanded, as the immense costs of maintaining such a large army drained my treasury and nearly bankrupted me. So I thought that I had survived the worst danger. Then all of a sudden the Turks reemerge... in Khazan... with 5 fullstacks. I thought I was done for sure but decided to try to kill as many of their troops as possible so my empire would not be comlpetely overrun. Same basic strategy as with the mongols. Only this time I pulled a desperate suicide move. I charged with all my spearmen into their line, trying to open up a gap in their lines so I could try to kill the Sultan. It worked. As soon as their Sultan was dead, the armies fell apart. I slaughtered about 6000 to 7000 enemy troops with my one fullstack. It took me nearly twenty minutes to rout all their incoming reinforcements who basically routed as soon as their entered the battlefield. The battlefield was a sea of fleeing men.

[mountaingoat]

all these stories of MTW1 games :( *shakes fist at Nvidia and the 8+ series*

[Geticus]

Playing as Sweboz on VH campaign, Hard battle difficulty. In 242 I besieged Eburon with my 8 chevron 10 star 5 hitpoint warmonger general, leading a full stack of level 3 Germanic swordsmen and level 4 Chatti spearmen, with a few elite Baltic Medininkas archers, 3 Germanic light cavalry and a wargozes mercenary. The defender of Eburon, Diazenis, attacked me in the off turn with 16 level 4+ infantry including some neitos and the level 8 solduros bodyguard, along with 4 novice mercenary infantry which to my astonishment he hired in the offturn before he attacked. Those of you who play as Germans or Romani probably know of Diazenis, he hates everyone, generally has 10 command, his axemen, spearmen, and heavy swordsmen are nearly unbreakable and he commonly forms a buffer state between the sweboz and Rome due to the strength of his army. He was reinforced by the city garrison of Eburon consisting of 14 level 4+ troops led by a strong 8 star Brihentin general.

I took a defensive position around a small slope at the edge of the battlemap and slugged it out with Diazenis, losses were gruesome on both sides, especially for my spearmen, and repeated light cavalry charges to their rear did only moderate damage and no one broke until nearing single digits. Finally after the lines thinned greatly Diazenis died in a Wargoz charge to the rear and the remnants of his huge army broke one by one. The garrison of Eburon meanwhile had arrived and strangely took up a defensive position on a slight upslope just as I had done, and refused to move. I rested up fully and then had the elite archers shoot all remaining arrows into them to try and induce a charge against my strong position. They however refused to move and took only minor losses. I then successfully baited their non bodyguard cavalry into a charge and surrounded and killed them off with my cavalry. After that their infantry held firm, refusing to move at all costs and just hurling javelins whenever I came to close. So at length I led the remains of my severly weakened army in an oblique attack against their left flank, finally they shifted position and I was able to gain a level footing against them on the slope. After charging and harrassing their archers as they regrouped, while my troops were in some disarray, the enemy finally turned and charged en masse. The Brihentin enemy general charged my left along with some infantry, while the rest collided in a disorderly slugfest. I set my Baltic archer reserves to hold the right while my FM, swordsmen and chatti spearmen regrouped and joined battle on the left. After grim losses on both sides the Chatti spearmen killed the enemy general, and repeated cavalry charges incited a mass route.
I don't have the numbers, but although victorious I had severe losses, it was a huge battle with lots of maneuvering lasting well over an hour.

[miotas]

Playing as sauro's I besieged some backwater germanic settlement that turned out to be much stronger than I anticipated.

They sallied and I went into the battle expecting to do the usual horse archer expend arrows then flee, however after all the arrows were expended there were a few units who were severely weakened and wavering so I figured that I would take them out before I retreated.

Things snowballed however and before I knew what was actually happening I realised that I had a bloody good chance at winning.

I my tactics were to first expend most, but not all, of my arrows, then to split up the enemy's force and cause them to become exhausted, and then to use alternating charges from multiple sides.

https://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo293/joshball2000/heroicvictory.jpg

https://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo293/joshball2000/heroicvitorystats.jpg

[Tristuskhan]

My most heroic and epic battles were in Medieval (I) Total War (with Viking Expansion). I was Russia, preparing my kingdom for the arrival of the Mongols. If you have ever played Medieval Total War and experienced the Mongols there you know FEAR. Their armies were massive, several fullstacks full of their superior heavy cavalry (kinda like cataphracts), innumerable heavy archers, gunmen and quite some artillery. In Medieval Total War, the AI was quite good, especially in battles. Usually I would retreat until their armies were thinned out over a large area, however this time I decided to risk it all in an all-or-nothing-battle. So I massed my armies, 3 fullstacks of mainly heavy spearmen and arabalests plus some medium steppe cavalry and boyars (basically armoured horse archers). The battle was a slaughter. It was quite close but then I managed to kill their Khan and their whole army broke apart. It was one of the bloodiest battles I've ever had.
However my most glorious battle was against the Turks. In the very same campaign the Turks had been eradicated by the Byzantines and the Egyptians. After I had survived the Mongol invasion, I left one fullstack in Khazan to guard my border with Egypt; the rest of the army was either put in garrisons throughout my kingdom or disbanded, as the immense costs of maintaining such a large army drained my treasury and nearly bankrupted me. So I thought that I had survived the worst danger. Then all of a sudden the Turks reemerge... in Khazan... with 5 fullstacks. I thought I was done for sure but decided to try to kill as many of their troops as possible so my empire would not be comlpetely overrun. Same basic strategy as with the mongols. Only this time I pulled a desperate suicide move. I charged with all my spearmen into their line, trying to open up a gap in their lines so I could try to kill the Sultan. It worked. As soon as their Sultan was dead, the armies fell apart. I slaughtered about 6000 to 7000 enemy troops with my one fullstack. It took me nearly twenty minutes to rout all their incoming reinforcements who basically routed as soon as their entered the battlefield. The battlefield was a sea of fleeing men.

Nice to hear about it...Reminds me... I also faced the Horde in a few campaigns as the Turks. A strange mechanism was that the most troops you had in the Horde's starting provinces, the most massive the horde was. With six of your armies stationned in the province, you could face twenty full stacks of heavy cavalry and horse archers, plus the best foot-archers in the game. Build a lvl 4 blacksmith in Khazar and the horde will be dressed in lovely shining armour. True meatgrinders those battles were. Four hours long and with thousands and thousands dead on both side. And if you killed the Khan and his sons right on the first turn, and won the battle (even without the Khan their reinforcements would keep coming for hours, hours!), the horde went rebel. Enough men for me to bribe them and have a 100% Mongol military until I could begin training Jannissaries.
PS: at the time I played those campaigns I was confined to bed for three month because of a very bad wound. So I could make my best to have true challenges.

Yeah, those must be the most heroic I played in a TW game.

[Maion Maroneios]

I've got a couple of pics from a battle I fought in my recent Makedonian campaign against the immigrant Epeirotai in Illyria. They had a fullstack of Illyrioi Thureophoroi and several Hoplitai (the Classical type), while I had some Pezhetairoi, flankers and Prodromoi (not to mention the massive bodyguard of my Startegos). Anyway, pics are coming soon.
https://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5893/rometwbi200905081905102.jpg
https://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4161/rometwbi200905082018233.jpg

Maion

[duncan.gill]

I would be interested to see what the best heroic victory was for a non-phalanx, non-missle/HA based army (e.g. Casse, Romani etc).

[alexanderthegreater]

I would be interested to see what the best heroic victory was for a non-phalanx, non-missle/HA based army (e.g. Casse, Romani etc).

See mine top of thread ^^ All medium cavalry, not a big battle with much kills but an effective 3 casualties.

[Maion Maroneios]

Truth is, it must be harder to get Heroic Victories (with small casualties) with non-phalanx factions, especially when you're defending. Mainly because phalanxes tend to hold out forever (like my Pezhetairoi did in the battle I posted) if deployed correctly.

Basically, what I did is the following; Wanting to wipe any remaining Epeirote presence off the face of the Earth, I decided to launch an expedition in Illyria. Before I did, I "upgraded" my 2 standing armies, including Pezhetairoi, Peltastai, Toxotai and Prodromoi, due to the fact that I had recently created 2 lvl3 factional barrackses in Pella and Demetrias (damn 15,000 mnai). So I sent a spy and assassin to survey the area where I knew the Epeirotai hung out. What I immediately noticed, was that enormous army composed of, almost entirely, Illyrioi Thureophoroi, some Hoplitai and a couple of Paraktioi. Hesitant at first, I soon figured out they had no way of winning. The resons are simple:

1) They are not called Artificial Idiocy for nothing
2) The army was led by a captain, while mine was led by the very Basileus
3) They had no pikemen to counter mine
4) I basically picked the terrain to my favour
5) They had no missile troops to speak of
6) They had no cavalry

So (1)+(2)+(3)+(4)+(5)+(6)=Heroic Victory :tongue:

Maion

[seienchin]

Ive won a battle with 20 Pahlva Bodyguards against 800 seleukids.
They were in a city and I waited outside. The enemy came out with alle there troops except for a bunch of 15 pantodapoi. I ran away from them all day and finally routed some slinger. Now I followed the slingers into the city and conquered all doors. Then I killed the 15 pantis and got a heroic victory. I atacked for Roleplaying reasons, but when I saw the weakest unit defending the citiy I couldnt resist. :egypt:

[ziegenpeter]

Whoooha! When I first saw the thread I thought I'd never beat the nerds from the EB forum, but when I see your screenshots, I think I might have a chance and will take some of my own.

[Maion Maroneios]

Whoooha! When I first saw the thread I thought I'd never beat the nerds from the EB forum, but when I see your screenshots, I think I might have a chance and will take some of my own.
I didn't quite get that... J/K :clown:

Maion

[DaciaJC]

https://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p311/Frontline1944/GothsVictory.jpg

This is from Barbarian Invasion. I was playing as the Goths and this was my first battle. Essentially a full-strength garrison in my eastern-most settlement against 3 of the 6 Vandal horde stacks.

It was the first time I used "Start Deployment". Somehow I managed to completely skip over that feature for more than five months of playing RTW. :dizzy2:

My basic strategy was to form a line of Gothic Spearmen covering all of the pathways to the town square in the hopes of creating a massive conglomeration of Vandal troops that I could smash with arrows and cavalry charges.

However, their HA proved to be more powerful than I had expected and they quickly tore up my archer units. My spearmen suffered against their Chosen Horde Swordsmen (you see, I had thought that they would have Runaway Slave Spearmen in their initial attack and keep their Chosen Swordsmen in reserve, where they could be wiped out in my cavalry charges). My lines began to falter, and eventually they broke. It was my cavalry that, in spite of all odds, saved the day by making charge after charge. The mass rout of Vandal troops near the gate was rather sickening, to say the least.

https://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p311/Frontline1944/GothsRoster.jpg

[Aemilius Paulus]

Should we make a rule against posting vanilla? I mean, it is so mcuh easier than EB, and this is an EB forum after all. We want some EB Heroic Victories here! And yeah, a non-phalanx, non-Nomadic/HA, non-cheat Heroic Victory would be nice :grin:

[satalexton]

agree, vanilla is too cowardy and weak, we want REAL victories here.

[Tristuskhan]

Should we make a rule against posting vanilla? I mean, it is so mcuh easier than EB, and this is an EB forum after all. We want some EB Heroic Victories here! And yeah, a non-phalanx, non-Nomadic/HA, non-cheat Heroic Victory would be nice :grin:

:laugh4: Well, maybe we should not talk about victories won with KH, Makedon, Epeiros, Hayasdan, Sauromatae, Saka, Pahlava, Seleucids, Baktria, Ptolemaioi :inquisitive: and maybe not Kathadashtim neither. And exclude victories gained on non-flat and bare ground too.

Aemilius, you should really try Pahlava, just to see how hard and heroic your victories must be if you want to survive in early campaign, no matter horse archers.

[DaciaJC]

Should we make a rule against posting vanilla? I mean, it is so mcuh easier than EB, and this is an EB forum after all. We want some EB Heroic Victories here! And yeah, a non-phalanx, non-Nomadic/HA, non-cheat Heroic Victory would be nice :grin:

Truth be told, I've never managed to fight against more than 2 enemy stacks in one battle in EB. I don't know why, but it has resulted in few victories that can truly be deemed "heroic". Whereas in vanilla, such battles as I posted were more common (usually ending in my loss).

[Duguntz]

Here is an Heroic victory especially for Duncan.Gill, who want a non-phalanx victory, and also to every body who want a saga worth that of the time when the gods Beated the Giants out of valhallah !!!I'm a Sweboz fan, so, not a lot of phalanx there! I was desperate for cash because my recent blitz of Italy, stopped and held at the level of Arretium (currently under seige bu a full elite stack... I guess that the Romans got pissed off to loose 5 cities in 2 years!!!) as my empire got overextanded, I decided to make a war of attrition on Aedui, (who still refue a ceaefire) and I planned to attack a city, quiet far, undefended (if only by one levy)... while on route, I stopped on a bridge to make him rest and make my general loose that nasty ''unsure troops'' attribute for too much walk... (I guess my guys were too fat!)

anyway, I was on a bridge, with one FM, one celtic lesser king, and 3 Bacatorii. A full stack of experianced swordmen, 2 sligner (I hate those, when i'm against ,as Sweboz die like flies in front of missiles) and several Heavy spearmen form aedui (Caturidge, i guess)... No family member, but still, a full stack against 5 units... I held the bridge good, it was grusome and several time my units were on the edge of fleeing, because the routing units from the ennemy rallied after the fled from the bridge, and charged back... still, the, I charged with my General (on foot, that is to note!) on a Botaroas unit of aedui who fled, then one other, then one other, they rallied but by the time, I routed the rest on the bridge, so they followed the Wave and fled.

At the end, my general had 3 guys left, the second in command (celtae volorix) had 10 men left, and from my bacatorii, none fled, still if they were, at the end, at the crucial moment of the mass routing of the army, one unit of 3, one unit of 12 and the last unit of 20... the battle lasted well over half an hour and I can tell, that, two minute more, and everything was over for me... But THAT was an Heroic act from every single men from my army!

All this happened today, in my current sweboz campain, the year is 239 BC

So i hope you enjoyed reading about that saga, wich will be told for the comming generations of my brave general!

[DaciaJC]

Do you have pictures? Not that I don't believe you, but screenshots always complement these stories so nicely.

[Duguntz]

Do you have pictures? Not that I don't believe you, but screenshots always complement these stories so nicely.

Aww, sorry, I've no picture. I'm playing EB on a laptop, and I don't know if it's possible. if it is, I just don't know how to do screenshots (Yeah, I know, i'm not a reference on ''how to use a comp.''! :dizzy2: )
But if it's possible, I'll post pictures of my next heroic victory (I mean, wich I judge heroic, because sometime we get heroic victory quote without, in my opinion, acheiving anything heroic but to have been placed at the right place at the right time, or, because someone killed 30 000 levies with an elite phalanx in a narrow street(and I don't want to offend anyone here)). But I'm agree with you, pics always add colors to the story, and we can figure better how it was.

I'm glad that you liked the telling of that ''saga'' though!

[DaciaJC]

The easiest way to take a screenshot is to simply press "Print Screen" (which is found on your keyboard). Every screenshot you take is saved in the folder called "tgas".

And yes, I truly did enjoy your story. Sounds like a well-deserved heroic victory. :2thumbsup:

Oh, I just noticed your location, Bucharest. Another Romanian, perhaps?

[Cute Wolf]

Why HA army didn't count? Using them is an art form....
https://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss184/Cutewolf/DM_SAKA_01054.jpg
waaa.... wrong Pics...
https://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss184/Cutewolf/DM_SAKA_01154.jpg
Surround your enemy, shoot them and kill them...:laugh4:

Sorry... I just made an photobucket account and get confused

[miotas]

Why HA army didn't count? Using them is an art form....

I think he was just saying that all the heroics seem to involve either a phalanx or HA's and it would be interesting to see one with sword/short spear based armies.

[Duguntz]

The easiest way to take a screenshot is to simply press "Print Screen" (which is found on your keyboard). Every screenshot you take is saved in the folder called "tgas".

And yes, I truly did enjoy your story. Sounds like a well-deserved heroic victory. :2thumbsup:

Oh, I just noticed your location, Bucharest. Another Romanian, perhaps?

No, I'm Canadian, from the french part, but since 3 years I study classical singning at the music University of Bucharest (and only one more to finish! YEEEEPPEEEEE!)And in my free time, after singning, I crush heads with my slogonez's clubs. De ce? esti romăn?

Oh, and for the other, thanks for the tips for pics, unfortunatly, i do not have that button ''print screen'' maybe my laptop is too old... :embarassed: but still strong enough to run EB :2thumbsup:

[Aemilius Paulus]

I think he was just saying that all the heroics seem to involve either a phalanx or HA's and it would be interesting to see one with sword/short spear based armies.
Yeah, heroic battles are pretty easy with a phalanx, which can only be penetrate by heavy cav, and not for long anyway. Same with a cavalry based army, especially HA bow&lance wielding horsemen. They pepper with arrows and charge with spears, which gives them a powerful charge, unlike the sword or the overhand spear.

Just try to win a Heroic Victory with non-pike phalanx infantry. Unless they are elite, it is pretty difficult to do so.

[miotas]

I had just taken the rebel city of Patavium and the aeduei decided they would break our 40 year alliance
to try and take it from my battered legion.

I bloody well showed the buggers how much gumption good roman soldiers have!

We sallied forth and sent em packing.

https://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo293/joshball2000/RomeTW-BI2009-05-1918-11-39-38.jpg
https://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo293/joshball2000/RomeTW-BI2009-05-1918-11-44-90.jpg

[duncan.gill]

The reason that was interested in non-phalanx/HA battles is that given the AI's stupidity it is often possible to get heroic victories with these armies (as the number of enemies is less important as usually you don't get into proper melee where the enemy can hit you). Scoring HV's with heavy infantry armies is a lot harder as it is very difficult not to be overwhelmed by the mass of numbers.

[miotas]

Are you saying that I have mad awesome infantry skills? :tongue:

[kuroiya88]

wow congrats to the guy who had the victory from alexander total war. those were a lot of enemies haha. dont you love phalanxes sometimes? :dizzy2::smash:

[Aemilius Paulus]

wow congrats to the guy who had the victory from alexander total war. those were a lot of enemies haha. dont you love phalanxes sometimes? :dizzy2::smash:
NO! THIS IS EB!!!1!
Fig. 1-2












*Notice Fig. 1-2: not vanilla. No posting easy vanilla victories where everything routs our dies form anything in seconds!

[fleaza]

Alexander's royal army was attacked by FOUR full stack armies while it laid siege to Sardis. My original goal was to lure Darius Codomannus into a decisive battle there, but he just sent four captains to do the job. These four captains commanded a combined total of over 13,000 men (huge unit settings). I experienced this two years ago. To this very day, I have yet to see any screenshot that details a larger campaign victory.

https://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7334/alexanderyu4.jpg

https://img209.imageshack.us/img209/4974/massivevictorystatszi0.jpg

oh my lord that is magnificent

https://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k212/fleadomfighter/RomeTW-BI2009-05-3023-53-52-35.jpg

here is my victory. quite a good ratio dont you guys think?

[Maion Maroneios]

Oh, and for the other, thanks for the tips for pics, unfortunatly, i do not have that button ''print screen'' maybe my laptop is too old... :embarassed: but still strong enough to run EB :2thumbsup:
Download Fraps (http://www.fraps.com/download.php), I totally recommend it. The best freeware program for snaping lots and lots of pics. Automatically turns them into jpg files, plus you can choose in which file you want them to be placed. In other words: It's awesome.

Maion

[Duguntz]

Download Fraps (http://www.fraps.com/download.php), I totally recommend it. The best freeware program for snaping lots and lots of pics. Automatically turns them into jpg files, plus you can choose in which file you want them to be placed. In other words: It's awesome.

Maion

Thanks a lot pal! I'll be able to post pictures of the crushed skulls of ennemy generals! Mouhahahahaha:smash::smash::smash:
Sweboz FTW!

[kuroiya88]

[QUOTE=Aemilius Paulus;2254004]NO! THIS IS EB!!!1!
Fig. 1-2



lol granted it's considerably easier in vanilla... but 11,000 killed? that is simply hilarious :P even by vanilla AI standards

[johnhughthom]

https://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp139/johnhughthom/new%20pahlava/AP-1.jpg

Just to annoy AP.:laugh4:

That was just the typical Pahlava win over a pathetic AS army laden with Pandatopoi, or as I like to call them "walking pincushions". I probably could have won without losing a single man if I had tried, my army was all FMs. They regenerate, so what's the harm in losing eighteen?

[Irenaeus]

Just last night, I was playing as the Romani, I had invaded southern Britain and got kicked out of Camulosadae, so sent another army over the Dover straights and sat at the bridge near the city. 2 big Casse armies took me on, and the result is in the screenshot.

https://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8393/seriouswin.jpg

I know Bridge battles are much easier than "normal" battles in EB due to the RTW engine, but that is still a big kills/loss ratio, especially when I don't have phalanxes (which I have had similar results with, but put down to the enemies running straight into the sarissas). One of the armies was delayed, and that one had it's general killed almost immediately, causing a mass route fairly early on. Still, I'm going to save this screenshot :)

[Valion]

My Greatest Romani Victory up to date! at VH/M:beam:

https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/Teutonia10/Averni2.jpg?t=1244130508
Wow thats ALOT:sweatdrop:

https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/Teutonia10/averni3.jpg?t=1244130512
My Master Stroke! Encircle Them ALL!!! CUT THEM DOWN!!! KILL!!! KILL!!!! KILLLZZZZ!!! GAH!:dizzy2:

https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/Teutonia10/averni5-RomaVictor.jpg?t=1244130409
Muhahahaha!! Roma Victrix!


Currently i'm trying to top this:laugh4:

[Maion Maroneios]

Wow man, that was awesome. Even though you played the Romaioi, that is.

Maion

[DaciaJC]

Indeed, most impressive, especially considering that I've lost all of my major bridge battles so far as Romani. :p

[Cullhwch]

Just so I can get all you guys to shut up about my vanilla screenshots, I've got a pic of me killing over 9,000 Sweboz (yeah, insert the damn DBZ video here) as the Aedui in 1.1. I'll post it in a week or so when I get back to my old computer. That battle was absolutely brutal (five German generals were slain and several units of Neitos actually routed!) and the worst part about it was that the game crashed before I got back to the campaign map. Ugh.

I only posted the Alexander screenshots because they demonstrated my most epic and heroic victory, as the near-certain defeat that I faced there would have cost me the campaign. I had no idea that you guys were so touchy about this sort of thing.

[Celtic_Punk]

that romani victory isn't THAT epic... had it been the other way around. lightly armoured celts taking on a huge legion. Now THAT would have been something.


Come to think of it... I'm going to do a custom battle like that now.

damnit I can't get a damn bridge for some reason... Ok fine... Field battle... But in my homeland!!!! We'll be outnumbered severely. You shall soon see the brilliance of Eire!

[Valion]

I never said it was THAT epic =p., only my best Heroic Victory to date... seeing they had around 4 maniples of Gaestaes(sp) which are as hard as brick walls to kill i think i've done a pretty good job annahilating them plus i didnt take advantage and block the entrace of the bridge and actually let them come through! Its not my fault the AI decided to throw everything they had in one go towards my center and i just couldn't resist the temtepation to surround them lol=D

[Celtic_Punk]

you would have lost had you blocked the bridge. They'd have pushed through with the mass of their force. Your first line would have eventually routed. Unless you'd set up the exact same defence only with a foreguard you'd have lost. Your strategy was the only one that'd achieve victory. Personally I'd have sent my worst and most numerous troops in to tire or break your initial line. Then send the Gaestae in last. Seeing the Gaestae while your men are tired and disillusioned would have made them panic and rout quickly. You'd have been toast my friend!

[Xurr]

you would have lost had you blocked the bridge. They'd have pushed through with the mass of their force. Your first line would have eventually routed. Unless you'd set up the exact same defence only with a foreguard you'd have lost. Your strategy was the only one that'd achieve victory. Personally I'd have sent my worst and most numerous troops in to tire or break your initial line. Then send the Gaestae in last. Seeing them while your men are tired and disillusioned would have made them panic and rout quickly. You'd have been toast my friend!

Actually I've held an entire stack on a bridge using 2 units of Triarii in shield wall formation(bi.exe). It can get a little tricky rotating them out but it's doable. Just remember to put a unit on either side of the bridge hold unit to get the "flank are secure" modifier and keep your general near.

[Valion]

Note taken about blocking the bridge, never tried blocking whithout phalanxes so thanks for the advice=D my romani strategy in major battles has somewhat been the double line against barbarians and all in stand ground orders to prevent exhaustion. Truth be told that battle was the first time i saw how effective surrounding the enemy and tiring them would be.

Also lets all be thankfull the AI sends their best units first if not all their units=D

[Celtic_Punk]

I've become pretty proficient in swapping ranks. Keep the reserve no more than 3 metres behind the engaged unit. group the engaged units together, and tell them to run back (the best way to do this is keep each individual unit on the same lateral plane, so they run directly back) once most are behind your reserves tell them to charge. Gaestae are brutally efficient reserves. Once the main part of the battle has past, do this switch, and your enemy's unit will scarper post haste.

[OBarbas]

My African Elephants at the vanguard of the conquest of Viennos, as mentioned in my separate thread, What is the Best Way for Romans to get Elephants.

We are still celebrating and sacrificing to the gods!

(P.S. I am interpreting 'most heroic' not necessarily to mean that it was a Heroic Victory. Sometimes the most heroic victories are even 'Close'!)

Background of battle and screenshots at: http://www.galexander.com.au/The%20Fall%20of%20Viennos.htm

THE COMPLETE, UNABRIDGED VIDEO OF THE CONQUEST OF VIENNOS AT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEQ0CmHMbOA

[Cute Wolf]

You want a victory with nnon-phalanx, non-ha army without elites, win against a supperior elite stack? here it is (from my Saby'n campaign...) at least my soldiers here were actually crappier than the Romans...
https://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss184/Cutewolf/Saba_heroic.jpg

[Maion Maroneios]

OK dude, an applause is due to your magnificent feat!

Maion

[Celtic_Punk]

I just fought a battle today as averni vs a superior force of Aduei (they have 2 units of gaestae!!!!!! I had... massalian hoplites who were freshly merc'ed up)

fought entirely in the forest till their last unit broke (where i pushed the rout, and slaughtered a bunch) i could see nothing. This is one of my deathly fears! fighting inside forests i cant see anything and usually it ends in disaster. This time We showed em whose boss! Another heroic victory added to my string of heroic victories this campaign!


http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/c04180ab818ca5b2f9f7d27bedc0211a8b2e9673.jpg

here's other heroic victories from the same campaign!

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/44a5ce9ebd70b3e4c120bd4b3c2c85c4c4139889.jpg
This one was crazy, cause they had infantry and cavalry and a unit of slingers. My unit of swordsmen and the slingers were reinforcements who had to rush up the hill. My general was on his own duking it out till they arrived... tired as hell too. I push my Generals to the max. Some battles only the general or a few men in his unit survive. and I'll still use em to help on the line.

And here's an epic picture (notice the fact that the few spartans left who are surrounded and hoplessly outnumbered are counted as "victory seems certain. Only a fool could lose this battle!" hahhahaha- they died, but not after killing hundreds more) of my Thermoplyae reenactment.
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/960fc36f461a54eb6b5e9c1742fa010beb9811d2.jpg

[Andy1984]

A close defeat may not be an heroic victory, but...

I tried to place 2 hellenic cataphracts and one FM vs 20 polybian princeps on the Syrian flats. My general left me after only killing 250 opponents. :( My cataphracts however managed to kill ca. 1000 opponents each, before they too decided to run rather than to die.

For each cavalrist I lost, 12.5 Romans died. Mwuahaha

An earlier attempt to fight 20 units of Vigiles on the Syrian flats became an utter massacre for Rome. :D

[Valion]

Ok heres my latest heroic victory as the romani., and to make things a bit even Scipio currently has the Starving trait meaning -3 to morale and the Carthaginians have ALOT and i mean ALOT of Elite heavy cavaly. But i hold the hill hehehe... make no mistake this battle was tough and lost a considerable number of men which made me leave Africa after annoying them for 3 years by annihilating 2 of their stacks plus this one. Perhaps those stars he had made some difference plus his National Hero trait xD

Here's some pretty pictures of the battle =D

https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/Teutonia10/28.jpg?t=1244837881

https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/Teutonia10/34-1.jpg?t=1244837910

https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/Teutonia10/35.jpg?t=1244837924

https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/Teutonia10/38.jpg?t=1244837925

After this my southern legion is very much depleted and needs to refurbish the ranks. Not to mention my Northern and "only" other legion is being drained in the north by constant battles with the Averni and Aedui.

BTW Awesome victory Celtic_punk!

[kuroiya88]

Nice victories there with the romani Valion. But why on earth were you by Siga? You hadn't even captured Sicily from what I see haha.

[Ibrahim]

here is finally a really heroic one, by me :beam: :


https://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Ibrahim_059/victory.jpg

lightly armed and armored arabs defeating the best field army the remans had in the holy land (IBFD IJ3). and yes, the roman commanding leads a force of arab cavalry...

I posted it earlier in the TWcenter, but only now remembered to put it here:wall:

PS: I know it ain't EB, but the thread never specified. and I was going to post a picture with an equally humiliating sassanid deafeat, but I: 1) forgot to, and 2) figured: just showing dead romans is enough :clown:

[Celtic_Punk]

well this thread IS in the EB forum...

[Ibrahim]

well this thread IS in the EB forum...

true, but seeing how others posted extra-EB battles, I don't think its an issue.:yes:

[Tux]

This would be my last one, not the greatest though but I did go back so that the AI can cross the river for a more interesting battle:
(army mostly of Dugunthiz and Clubmen with 1 unit of Leuce Epos Cavalry)
https://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8715/56487493.jpg

[Valion]

Nice victories there with the romani Valion. But why on earth were you by Siga? You hadn't even captured Sicily from what I see haha.

After defeating Hamalcar in Sicily i decided to go and visit Africa to say hello to the Qarthadastim:beam: For the reason i didnt want to conquer sicily too early in the game. basically i lusted for some Huge battles and kill something:sweatdrop:

Mentioning Hube battles here is a not so Huge but was so TOUGH battle that lasted 45min and yes i don't like to have the battle time limit on seeing i find it unrealistic.

Finally decided to take the city
https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/Teutonia10/45.jpg?t=1246058100

Hah making a wall of shields works wonders against barbarians even against them annoying 4 maniples of Gaestaes(sp?)
https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/Teutonia10/46.jpg?t=1246058141

I didnt take anymore pictures since i didnt want a CTD considering how long the battle lasted.
https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/Teutonia10/47.jpg?t=1246058142

Tiring battle., of course restarted EB after saving ahaha XD

[option]

This one goes out to all of you who say elephants aren't worth the money...

https://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c189/metallica_fan32/heroic2.jpg
https://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c189/metallica_fan32/heroic3.jpg

My single fullstack completely annihilating two Roman fullstacks after landing in northern Italy, thanks to a single unit of African Bush Elephants. No horse archers and only three phalanxes, and none of them made a significant impact on the battle, so there.

[chenkai11]

This one goes out to all of you who say elephants aren't worth the money...

https://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c189/metallica_fan32/heroic2.jpg
https://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c189/metallica_fan32/heroic3.jpg

My single fullstack completely annihilating two Roman fullstacks after landing in northern Italy, thanks to a single unit of African Bush Elephants. No horse archers and only three phalanxes, and none of them made a significant impact on the battle, so there.


Very impressive. Especially it's the Carthaginians slaughtering the Romans.

[Mikhail Mengsk]

Actually, your elephantes killed 702 enemies. Your liby-pheonician cavalry killed 573. Make a proportion with their cost and upkeep... I think you can afford 3 cavalries for your elephant, so 573*3= ....

Anyway, GREAT victory, man ;-)

[Cute Wolf]

Liby phoenicians on horse didn't scare the romans... a cute elephant did made them scream like girls and runs away... plus you can't watch the wonderful moments when romans are tossed to the air like wild kittens tossed to the trash bin...

[Mikhail Mengsk]

Agree with the fear-factor, but i prefere a more versatile and less risky cavalry force. I fear very much the "running amok throughout your own army" factor ;-). Of course you don't risk very much against Romans because of their lack of good and long-range archers.

[DaciaJC]

Agree with the fear-factor, but i prefere a more versatile and less risky cavalry force. I fear very much the "running amok throughout your own army" factor ;-). Of course you don't risk very much against Romans because of their lack of good and long-range archers.

Meh, I recall one battle as the Getai in which I ambushed the Carthaginian captain (sitting on an elephant) with a unit of Drapanai. Within maybe 10 seconds after making contact, he was dead, the elephants starting running amok and crushing their own men, and a result, the entire army routed. Only three of my units actually fought (all Drapanai), and a full stack routed. A lack of archers doesn't necessarily mean there's no risk of those elephants running amok.

[Mikhail Mengsk]

Sure, but is more risky against heavy missile armies. In a melee you can drive them amok too, but you will risk that they run amok troughout YOUR lines.

[Dafug3]

Yes, but usually you would use elephant armies against mainly infantry assorted armies, such as the Hellenes, Romans and Celts.

[Maion Maroneios]

Sure, but is more risky against heavy missile armies. In a melee you can drive them amok too, but you will risk that they run amok troughout YOUR lines.
A well-aimed spike hammered into their skulls will take care of the latter.

Maion

[Mikhail Mengsk]

It's a bit hard to hit an elephant in the head with melee weapons...

[Maion Maroneios]

You know there's an option to kill the elephants after they run amok right?

Maion

[Mikhail Mengsk]

Yes, YOUR elephants.

But we were talking about engaging and routing enemy elephants in melee, who is possible, but too risky.

[Maion Maroneios]

Ah, OK misunderstanding on my part. My bad.

Maion

[Mikhail Mengsk]

No problem!

I think the "autokill" of the elephant is the most expensive move that a player could do in a battle XD. But it can save the rest of your army XD