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Vasiliyi
05-15-2009, 20:56
Quick question, so we all had problems with the org not working for a day or so, but I was wondering how come I could still view everything on my G1, compared to nothing on my desktop....
Maion Maroneios
05-15-2009, 20:59
Yeah, that was a wierd (and boring) day without being able to access the fora :dizzy2:
Maion
Vasiliyi
05-15-2009, 21:16
Ha! Maion, you just have to learn to use your time wisely. When the org broke down yesterday I spent the time making my chainmail which is starting to look pretty good.
Maion Maroneios
05-15-2009, 21:20
Well, I am mostly home revising for my upcoming exam period starting next week. So the fora are just for me to take a break and do something except studying Electromagnetism and Calculus :tongue:
Maion
Vasiliyi
05-15-2009, 21:23
Yah, those 2 topics don't seem as interesting to me as one would imagine them. Id rather read a manuel as to how to operate a door. (Not kidding)
Maion Maroneios
05-15-2009, 21:28
Well, while I find them highly interesting (seriously), I feel like my brains are about to explode from time to time. So I take a break and relax a bit. But I'm afraid we're getting off-topic, so I'll just shut it :sweatdrop:
Maion
julius_caesar_the_first
05-15-2009, 23:04
What happened to the .org anyway? does anybody know?
Maion Maroneios
05-15-2009, 23:16
Probably some kind of bug, though there's bound to be some thread about it somewhere else. Of not yet, there will be.
Maion
The .org was down for me for two and a half days. I imagined that they were revamping the site. I suppose that's not the case.
There was a malware messing the site up, if you tried to visit the site while it was down I'd suggest giving you computer the once over with a malware/viris scanner.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=261141
Aemilius Paulus
05-15-2009, 23:55
I though they were working on the site, as the symptoms I have observed looked suggested that. But who knows? I could have been easily incorrect.
In any case, wrong forum, Vasiliy. Try the Watchtower or at least the Entrance Hall.
Vasiliyi
05-16-2009, 05:41
Honostly, I rarely post anywhere other than here and the AAR section.
Did anyone manage to pick up any malware from trying to visit the site when it was down? I got one but don't know if it was from here.
Its gone now so "Hurrahh! my drives are clean"
I ran a full system scan and found nothing. I heard that using Firefox + NoScript helped to prevent the malware from infecting computers. I'm running the latest build of Firefox. Can anyone tell me what NoScript is?
julius_caesar_the_first
05-16-2009, 14:59
I ran a scan with SpyBot and found quite a lot of things but not RedSheriff. I'm not surprised that things popped up since my last scan was several month ago.
I ran a full system scan and found nothing. I heard that using Firefox + NoScript helped to prevent the malware from infecting computers. I'm running the latest build of Firefox. Can anyone tell me what NoScript is?
Basically what it says, it stops Java and other scripts automatically running within web pages. Some of these are used to attack/compromise your PC, although the vast majority are benign..
It may stop you viewing some sites properly, but you can fiddle around with it, to allow which sites are trusted etc...(apparently, I don't yet use it myself)
Basically what it says, it stops Java and other scripts automatically running within web pages. Some of these are used to attack/compromise your PC, although the vast majority are benign..
It may stop you viewing some sites properly, but you can fiddle around with it, to allow which sites are trusted etc...(apparently, I don't yet use it myself)
I do use it. It's a bit annoying at first, because you have to independently allow all of your trusted sites (those that use Java, at least), but that requires only two clicks and afterwards everything works as normal. I didn't pick up anything from yesterdays problems, or at least Spybot SD and Windows Defender didn't find anything.
Aemilius Paulus
05-16-2009, 16:21
Wow, people got malware from that? Worms and viruses? Eeeek. Oh, well, nothing Kaspersky cannot stop. I keep Kaspersky disabled, as it soaks up hefty amount of memory even with my 4GB of RAM. I then scan my computer every two weeks. Better do an early scan now.
Fluvius Camillus
05-16-2009, 16:36
Firefox + AVG free, never had problems.
~Fluvius
I'm using firefox+avast! Which seems to work well for me, although it didn't pick up a adware that Ad-aware did which was a worrying.~:(
Maion Maroneios
05-16-2009, 18:09
Using Firefox and Avast myself as well, I'm running a throrough scan right now. Didin't actually think of the possibility of malware to be honest :sweatdrop:
Maion
Vasiliyi
05-16-2009, 18:46
Yah, I use firefox and avg, and ive NEVER had a virus.
Aemilius Paulus
05-16-2009, 19:37
Firefox + AVG free, never had problems.
~Fluvius
Yah, I use firefox and avg, and ive NEVER had a virus.
http://www.scienceblogs.de/frischer-wind/picard-facepalm.jpg
If I had a pence every time someone said that... I have heard that comment millions of times by now. Same friggin' wording too. YOU DO NOT SEE THE VIRUS BECAUSE AVG/AVAST DOES NOT DETECT IT!!! Use your logic. The better the malware is, the more difficult to detect it. AVG and Avast do horrifically in virus competitions with other paid anti-malware programs. They detect less than 10% of the crap thrown at them. Just go online and look at reviews. Do not be an ostrich. Do not pretend something is not there when it is.
I used to use McAfee, pretty decent actually, as it detected infections that AVG/Avast! did not. However, it did not detect some stuff that Kaspersky did. Once I switched from McAfee to kaspersky, it found two worms and a trojan. And you guys think you are safe with the crappy AVG/Avast!
Now, of course, some of you lads may not have any malware. But if you happen to use porn, torrent, or warez sites, then beware. Even without using any of those, you can still get your share of crap. Personally, my experience with malware began four years ago, with SpySheriff. Ever since then, malware has been one of my top interests in computers.
EDIT: If you are too poor/cheap for paid anti-virus programs, and too whatever-it-is to know how to get those paid programs some other ways, then use Spybot Search&Destroy. Avast, AVG, Windows Defender, and Ad-Aware were all the ones I have used before switching to paid stuff. However, out of all that, Spybot S&D was the only thing that ever detected anything. AVG and Avast! NEVER detected ANYTHING. Yet every two weeks I would scan and find at least 5 things with Spybot S&D. Usually minor, pretty harmless adware and spyware such as StatCounter, but sometimes I had more serious infections as well. Spybot took care of all of them, while the other programs never had a clue.
Good advice, AP. I've already had spyware downloaded on another computer and then later have it literally be hijacked. :wall:
http://www.scienceblogs.de/frischer-wind/picard-facepalm.jpg
If I had a pence every time someone said that... I have heard that comment millions of times by now. Same friggin' wording too. YOU DO NOT SEE THE VIRUS BECAUSE AVG/AVAST DOES NOT DETECT IT!!! Use your logic. The better the malware is, the more difficult to detect it. AVG and Avast do horrifically in virus competitions with other paid anti-malware programs. They detect less than 10% of the crap thrown at them. Just go online and look at reviews. Do not be an ostrich. Do not pretend something is not there when it is.
I used to use McAfee, pretty decent actually, as it detected infections that AVG/Avast! did not. However, it did not detect some stuff that Kaspersky did. Once I switched from McAfee to kaspersky, it found two worms and a trojan. And you guys think you are safe with the crappy AVG/Avast!
Now, of course, some of you lads may not have any malware. But if you happen to use porn, torrent, or warez sites, then beware. Even without using any of those, you can still get your share of crap. Personally, my experience with malware began four years ago, with SpySheriff. Ever since then, malware has been one of my top interests in computers.
EDIT: If you are too poor/cheap for paid anti-virus programs, and too whatever-it-is to know how to get those paid programs some other ways, then use Spybot Search&Destroy. Avast, AVG, Windows Defender, and Ad-Aware were all the ones I have used before switching to paid stuff. However, out of all that, Spybot S&D was the only thing that ever detected anything. AVG and Avast! NEVER detected ANYTHING. Yet every two weeks I would scan and find at least 5 things with Spybot S&D. Usually minor, pretty harmless adware and spyware such as StatCounter, but sometimes I had more serious infections as well. Spybot took care of all of them, while the other programs never had a clue.
Actually they have a point.. The malware on the site worked on IE only..
And avg detects 93% of viruses and kaspersky with 97% is a bit better.
And I dont have any antivirus installed as my brain is one..never had a virus and I scan with kaspersky and nod32 every few months..
Aemilius Paulus
05-17-2009, 01:02
Actually they have a point.. The malware on the site worked on IE only..
Well, I am a Firefox user, and I just scanned my PC using Kaspersky 2009. Found nothing.
And avg detects 93% of viruses
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
If I had any more space on my signature, I would insta-sig this. Right along with my Winston Churchill quote about the five-minute talk with an average voter. Where in the Heavens did you pull that figure out???? AVG will be lucky if it picks up 20%. AVG has been pretty rotten recently, in the past 1.5 years, as it has consistently failed to deliver updates in time.
It used to be better than Avast!, but now I would go with the latter. If AVG was that good, it would not receive 30th and 20th places in malware-protection program competitions. And people would not buy the shoddy Norton, McAfee, Symantec, etc. Seriously, AVG, Avast! and ClamWin detect nothing in comparison to everything else.
Now, the paid versions of AVG and Avast! are considerably better, although not 93%, they are still quite good. However, practically no one uses the paid ones. If you are going to pay for your antivirus, may as well get something better. Majority of the people use the free anti-malware programs.
and kaspersky with 97% is a bit better.
Correction: 98% (http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/kaspersky-review.html). But it depends on the source of course. Different test demonstrate different detection rates. I would like your source for that, however.
And I dont have any antivirus installed as my brain is one..never had a virus and I scan with kaspersky and nod32 every few months..
Good that you use Kaspersky. Either KAspersky or BitDefender is splendid. Both always take the top three places in all competitions. As for nod32, it uses very little memory, and it performs reasonably well, plus fast, but I need an antivirus that detects infections, no matter how long it takes. I need something that works. I will not compromise my security for speed. That is why I use Kaspersky.
Correction: 98% (http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/kaspersky-review.html).
Correction: That figure is not detection rate. It is rate of successful removal of what it does detect.
Correction: That figure is not detection rate. It is rate of successful removal of what it does detect.
Very true. Nothing detects anywhere near 98% of malware.
@AP:- Just have a breeze through forums like "TechSupportGuy". It oftens takes 6 or more different AV products thrown at a problem to find it.
I had a serious PC problem earlier in the year, which only symptom was that I couldn't access ANY AV sites on the net....12 (I kid you not) different AV programs were thrown at the problem, nothing found anything (including Kasp, and all the big names)..to cut a long story short, a free program called DR Web found it eventually, a whole nasty package including keylogger, screen recorder, false browser etc..
It was so new, that nothing "professional" knew anything about it. Just a freeware program. It was eventually addressed in Mcsofts's next security patch.
Personally, I run Spyware Doctor, AVG and Zone Alarm. (I used to use Norton, which is the biggest pain in the ass when it comes to false positives, it kept insisting that regular traffic between My PC and ISP was an intrusion attack:dizzy2:). I custom scan at least once a day, and scan with at least 4 different AV/AS engines once a week)...If I don't get at least 1 or 2 potential problems a fortnight, I start to get concerned stuff isn't working properly :laugh4:
Cute Wolf
05-17-2009, 05:28
The best antivirus, antimalware ever....
I usually use only avg + firefox, but when I think something is wrong with my comp, I'll just go to my friend (which is some kind of weird guy that usually spend much of his time workin with programming language... IT students)... and say... "Could you repair my comp for a bowl of meatballs?"
And everything goes fine...:laugh4:
You can guess he was a hacker: hacker wanna be, still learning... :idea2: have a friend like him is useful when you don't understand much about comp...
Maion Maroneios
05-17-2009, 10:44
The best antivirus, antimalware ever....
I usually use only avg + firefox, but when I think something is wrong with my comp, I'll just go to my friend (which is some kind of weird guy that usually spend much of his time workin with programming language... IT students)... and say... "Could you repair my comp for a bowl of meatballs?"
And everything goes fine...:laugh4:
You can guess he was a hacker: hacker wanna be, still learning... :idea2: have a friend like him is useful when you don't understand much about comp...
Oh, I know exactly what you mean. Same goes for me :clown:
Maion
Silence Hunter
05-17-2009, 16:01
For me even the instant noodles works well, because my flatmates (unfortunately) are all IT students so it creates a competition between them for my offer, thus decreasing my expenses lol. That's probably the only good thing I can say about them. No offence to any IT students here, I just got a really horrible sample..
Cute Wolf
05-17-2009, 18:47
IT students are really the best antivirus, antihacker, and tweaker possible..... Thanks for any IT students in the org!!!:2thumbsup:
IT students are really the best antivirus, antihacker, and tweaker possible..... Thanks for any IT students in the org!!!:2thumbsup:
lol, I am one.. so I dont use any av software..
If you know anything about computers and internet/trusted sources and have a bunch of antivirus software occupying your ram and stealing your cpu cycles then the 'terrorists' have already won.
HunGeneral
05-17-2009, 22:10
Strange... I used IE when I visited the Org. when it got down - after I read on TWC what had happened I got worried so made a scan on my laptop with nod32 and after dowloading with Windowsdefender - both found nothing.:inquisitive:
Today I downloaded Ad- Aware and all it found were dozens of cookies (which I erased), but nothing serious:inquisitive:.
I hope I'm clean of it now - looks like I should use Firefox more often...:sweatdrop:
Atraphoenix
05-18-2009, 14:27
do not abandon foxy :no: IE is quite vulnerable...
kasper used lots of ram before but last versions are less ram users.
Firefox works. Im an IT professional (yes scoff, I did Music and Economics undergrad, then IT PHD)...Hull and Leeds...(don't ask on the change of direction, it wasn't really when you spent 12 hrs a day playing and programming MUDs)...
Anyways IE is imho quite dangerous, and Vista has more security holes than best swiss Ementhal..
EDIT: BUT if I caused alarm, then don't worry, I work with malware most of the working day, what I think of as insecure, is like Fort Knox to most, so well, basically, don't fret ~;)
Aemilius Paulus
05-18-2009, 23:51
kasper used lots of ram before but last versions are less ram users.
Yeah, even the current versions are huge memory sinks for low-end computers. I use to have only 1 GB of RAM, and my computer froze after 30 minutes of use for about a week after my first Kaspersky scan. I had to continuously reboot it. Then for a week more, it would freeze for about five-ten seconds at shockingly regular intervals of 1.5 minutes. Incredibly annoying. But then I soon got extra RAM, and now Kaspersky runs just fine with 4 GB of RAM.
But that is the price one must pay for the best virus protection. And I am more than willing to pay it.
Yeah, even the current versions are huge memory sinks for low-end computers. I use to have only 1 GB of RAM, and my computer froze after 30 minutes of use for about a week after my first Kaspersky scan. I had to continuously reboot it. Then for a week more, it would freeze for about five-ten seconds at shockingly regular intervals of 1.5 minutes. Incredibly annoying. But then I soon got extra RAM, and now Kaspersky runs just fine with 4 GB of RAM.
But that is the price one must pay for the best virus protection. And I am more than willing to pay it.
You using Vista Then?
Aemilius Paulus
05-19-2009, 00:08
You using Vista Then?
Pffft, who do you think I am?? XP for me.
Pffft, who do you think I am?? XP for me.
Unless you've got 64 bit Xp, it will only actually use 3GB of your 4GB...
Thats all
Aemilius Paulus
05-19-2009, 00:27
Unless you've got 64 bit Xp, it will only actually use 3GB of your 4GB...
Thats all
Look, I know a lot about computers, but thanks for trying to help me out. Yes, I am aware of the limitation of a 32-bit OS. However, my computer utilizes 3.68 GB of RAM, which is enough for me. I am borderline, with just too much for 32-bit and just too little for 64-bit. Well, I could switch to 64-bit, but that requires buying it, and plus a whole lot of trouble, whereas with my ungraded RAM and the upgraded quad core 2.4 gHz processor, my computer runs all the games I play very, very smoothly.
Not bad for my HP a1510n, with original RAM of 1 GB plus a single 2.4 gHz processor.
Look, I know a lot about computers, but thanks for trying to help me out. Yes, I am aware of the limitation of a 32-bit OS. However, my computer utilizes 3.68 GB of RAM, which is enough for me. I am borderline, with just too much for 32-bit and just too little for 64-bit. Well, I could switch to 64-bit, but that requires buying it, and plus a whole lot of trouble, whereas with my ungraded RAM and the upgraded quad core 2.4 gHz processor, my computer runs all the games I play very, very smoothly.
Not bad for my HP a1510n, with original RAM of 1 GB plus a single 2.4 gHz processor.
Heck, apologies...no offence intended...nice upgrade ;)
Edit: My best friend runs all IT for the ONLY remaining large Steelworks in Sheffield UK, he refuses point blank to buy new comps as they come with Vista....(I was at Uni with him, if you think Im bad, he did Chemistry PHD, I taught him C++, the rest his brilliant mind picked up...that and 12 hrs of MUDs etc.)....
Computer Games won't get you a job...bullshit:)
(Btw Im UK/US, u Florida native? out of interest?)
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