HOSTES ROMANORVM; ΜΙΣΟΡΩΜΑΙΟΙ or just friends of Archeology

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

For everybody living in western Germany or the Netherlands, there is an interesting exhibition celebrating 2000 years since the Germans threw out the Romans from their home turf, including lots of Reenactment:

Roman and Germanic Days (http://www.kalkriese-varusschlacht.de/plugin.php?menuid=32&template=mv/templates/mv_show_front.html&mv_id=1&mv_content_id=91)

Imperium, Conflict, Myth (http://www.imperium-konflikt-mythos.de/varusschlacht/?lang=en)

[Maion Maroneios]

Interesting :yes: As a Misoromaios, I will take a look at this for sure.

Maion

[A Terribly Harmful Name]

Hellenophiles who celebrate this fail to grasp at the obvious: only the Germans, and not the Greeks, had the balls to do it. The Greeks just became a "different" brand of Roman.


:clown:

[Maion Maroneios]

I don't think so. Rather the Romaioi became a different brand of Hellenes.

Maion

[A Terribly Harmful Name]

I don't think so. Rather the Romaioi became a different brand of Hellenes.

Maion
Ah but the only ones who seriously considered themselves Romans for another millenium were in fact Greek in all but their own self-made facade :smash:.

Just kidding, of course. Bashing the hellenophiles is my favourite sport, eh :clown:.

[Maion Maroneios]

Yeah, I'm kidding too. In fact, I'm an Heterogenes, being half-Dtuch myself. So I do feel a kind of pride when reading about Germanoi butchering Romaioi.

Maion

[Fluvius Camillus]

Hmm.. I hope I'm not on holiday then:sweatdrop:

Thanks for the tip!

~Fluvius

[Aper]

For everybody living in western Germany or the Netherlands, there is an interesting exhibition celebrating 2000 years since the Germans threw out the Romans from their home turf, including lots of Reenactment:

Roman and Germanic Days (http://www.kalkriese-varusschlacht.de/plugin.php?menuid=32&template=mv/templates/mv_show_front.html&mv_id=1&mv_content_id=91)

Imperium, Conflict, Myth (http://www.imperium-konflikt-mythos.de/varusschlacht/?lang=en)
You lost a good chance to civilize yourselves a lot earlier, you smelly barbarians! :clown:

[Celtic_Punk]

Hah! Well the Romans were too scared to come to Ireland. Horror stories from the britons about the Scots and Irish were more than enough to convince them to continue expansion in britian let alone come to the emerald island.

Had they came over. We'd have kicked their arse!

[keravnos]

The obvious problem, which is also very real, history wise, is that it can also mean...

ΜΙΣΟΣ ΡΩΜΑΙΟΣ aka half roman, and with the "Holly Roman Empire" connection, this also rings true.

Celtic Punk, based on what I have read, it was resources allocation rather than a fear of the Irish that didn't allow the Romans to invade. I may be wrong, of course. Not that I blame you in any way, since too damn much of history as taught looks like it has been copied/pasted from a UltraNationalistic webpage. I understand that a people's hero is anothers' villain but at times it looks like two different events took place, rather than one looked on from a different viewpoint.

[Macilrille]

Also, the Irish were too busy killing each other to resist invasion, see what happened when an invasion did in fact come from AD 800 onwards ;-)

In fact the only place the Romans really wanted and did not get was Germany, every other place they set their mind to taking they eventually took, though they lost the Parthian territory again they held it for longer than the German province.

The Germans had all advantages on their side though (except of course the Legions and numbers), there were no cities to occupy and use as administrative centres, no roads to transport and supply the armies, not enough food locally available, not that many people to enslave... Germany was a horrid place as Tacitus said, and it is no wonder the poor Romans had to give up despite Germanicus' attempted reconquest. It was simply not worth the effort as Tiberius deduced and took the consequence. Little did he know that from those uncivilised lands would Rome's doom come when Rome had weakened itself...

@Aper, who says we are civilised? Who says we want to be?

Anyway I might take myself there if I have the time and money...

[Mulceber]

Meh, ultimately it's the germans who lost out: had they been defeated by Rome, they would have benefited from the Pax Romana and its many boons - peace, increased trade, increased literacy and cheap, high-quality goods. Instead they just continued on the same as they always had. More fool them, I say. -M

[russia almighty]

You know, someone needs to go back in time, and give the Romans napalm, lots and lots of Napalm.....

[Cadwalader]

Meh, ultimately it's the germans who lost out: had they been defeated by Rome, they would have benefited from the Pax Romana and its many boons - peace, increased trade, increased literacy and cheap, high-quality goods. Instead they just continued on the same as they always had. More fool them, I say. -M

But then there would be no German beer, you madman!
Also, their charming language, possibly. :no:

[Fluvius Camillus]

You know, someone needs to go back in time, and give the Romans napalm, lots and lots of Napalm.....

Think harder... Byzantines had greek fire (It was actually called roman or byzantine fire back then)!
Enemy ships fled on sight when they had seen a tube on a boat. Byzantine survival was also possible thanks to this invention which the exact recipe is lost...:shame:

They burned down the entire russian fleet when passing through the Bosphorus.

~Fluvius

[durito]

:wall:

Thats the week when I'm in Germany with the motorbike, but why is it so far in the north? :furious3:
Too bad :-( I'll be in the Area of Trier and Saalburg, hope to find something interesting there...

Greetings from Vitudurum