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Caius
05-31-2009, 02:49
Hosted by your truly comrade!

To get a mini taste of the mini take off of the huge game that was Capo, I am going to make, Im going to introduce new twists of the last game hosted to make something different.

In this version, everyone will have a PM. The Pm will explain the role a bit, and it will contain a name of a certain player. You may be friend with him or not.This player is friendly with you, but, watch out, don't think they are what they really are!

For e.g., TinCow gets the PM and in the PM it is written "Your friend is Caius"
Caius gets the PM and Tincow is written in the PM.

Both are friends, and therefore, they know each other, yet they can kill one each other. The difference is that when TinCow kills Caius, there will be a large chance that, in the writeup, there might be a mention of the attacker.

There is a meeting in Orgahslavia. The Bad Comrade, Krushev and 5 KBG members are there. If together, 2 KGB agents can form a team to defend someone if attacked. The Bad Comrade can be and look like a normal comrade, except that he has something. A special ability, it could be.

Krushev is a regular townie, but if lynched or killed, the game ends.

Would you fight once more for Motherland, comrade?

Sign ups (7/7):
A Very Proletariat Market
Iskanderev 3.1
Beskarov
S0v1eTp3rS0nal1ty
AskTheCaviarGuy
Captain Sovietadder
LittleCommunist

A Very Super Market
05-31-2009, 03:02
Okay. A Very Proletariat Market is now back.

Iskander 3.1
05-31-2009, 03:03
Da, I'm in, Comrades.

Beskar
05-31-2009, 03:20
I am Krushev. (In.)

Caius
05-31-2009, 03:28
I am Krushev. (In.)
Everyone has Russian altered nicknames.

Beskar
05-31-2009, 03:40
I am Krushev, defy me or you will go to the gulags! :smash:

Caius
05-31-2009, 03:42
I am Krushev, defy me or you will go to the gulags! :smash:
Gulags were abandoned since Stalin died. :smash:

Beskar
05-31-2009, 03:44
That can change....

Splitpersonality
05-31-2009, 04:17
Splitpersacapitalist is in.

:P

Caius
05-31-2009, 05:36
Splitpersacapitalist is in.

:P
Welcome Sovietpersonality.

Splitpersonality
05-31-2009, 05:38
Even better!

Caius
05-31-2009, 05:39
Even better!
Gotta love the host and his subtle hints.

Askthepizzaguy
05-31-2009, 07:29
I'll join if you need me.

Captain Blackadder
05-31-2009, 08:20
I am here comrades for the greater glory of the soviet state. We will bury the capilist pig dogs.

Caius
05-31-2009, 16:44
Need one more comrade.

LittleGrizzly
05-31-2009, 17:35
Comrades to arms!

A LitteCommunst wishes to embark on the hunting of the greedy capitalists!

Caius
05-31-2009, 21:26
Sure, you are in. And since you are in, let the PM fest begin.

Everyone who wishes to defend someone, both must send me the PM saying who to protect.

EDIT: The game starts now, it is night phase and you have 24 hours to send the PM's. The teams are like Capo, X and Y send me the PM to protect A. Nothing else I think I have to add.

LittleGrizzly
05-31-2009, 21:32
Umm... I don't know if im being really dense, or if your just about to send the role pms out and im being impaitent... but aren't we supposed to get role pm's... i may not want to protect people if im the bad guy...

Edit: Turns out im just impaitent... who woulda guessed...

Caius
05-31-2009, 21:45
In America, you are impacient.
In Soviet Russia, they make you impacient.

Askthepizzaguy
06-01-2009, 00:21
Ok the game mechanics are a little different this time around. I would appreciate a discussion related to our strategy and how we are supposed to use our new funky teammate powers.

Splitpersonality
06-01-2009, 00:24
It'd be nice if I had funky teammate powers, you guys'll have to leave me out of the loop on things, as I don't exactly trust you, sorry comrades it's in my character.

Askthepizzaguy
06-01-2009, 00:33
Asktheworkerguy:

Ok 7 players means that one of us likely has no teammate. One of our teams contains the bad comrade.

So... 3 teams. 1 useless team. Plus our Glorious Leader. Obviously two teams should protect the Glorious Leader, and the third team protects one of the first two teams.

LittleGrizzly
06-01-2009, 05:26
Me and comrade Iksanderev are long time companions at the KGB and can work well as a team together... i have not made contact yet but im planning on us defending someone... but who is the question...

Maybe other players can come forward and reveal who the comrade they will work with is ?

Beskar
06-01-2009, 05:30
Hmm..

LittleGrizzly
06-01-2009, 05:34
Well Split claimed to be partnerless so that would leave ATPG and AVSM or the two A's as i shall refer to the team from now on... as the last remaining team...

This doesn't reveal who are the bad people are... it could make it easier when discussing night actions and the like...

A Very Super Market
06-01-2009, 05:50
Did someone say A-TEAM???

Obviously, someone is teamless. I doubt he is Kruschev. That is all.

LittleGrizzly
06-01-2009, 05:53
Did someone say A-TEAM???

Damn that was so obvious how did i miss it!!

With the A-TEAM on our side we shall be unbeatable!!

~;)

Askthepizzaguy
06-01-2009, 05:55
If anyone votes for members of the A-team, I will personally cut their hands off and force them to type that they vote to lynch themselves.

:clown:

LittleGrizzly
06-01-2009, 19:51
We.. ahh... in voting period now ?

Askthepizzaguy
06-01-2009, 20:26
I think we abstain this round and protect whats his face. Split Pea.

Splitpersonality
06-01-2009, 21:24
Protect me? Bah, your protection does nothing. I can't trust you with my life!


(God I hate being the paranoid one, I must roleplay it out though! For the motherland! I doubt protecting me would help much right now, there may be better people.)

LittleGrizzly
06-01-2009, 23:03
Me and Iksanderev have a protection target picked out

Vote No Lynch

can we do that ?

Askthepizzaguy
06-02-2009, 01:57
AVSM and I haven't even talked about who to protect yet! :sweatdrop:

Oy gevalt.

Caius
06-02-2009, 02:01
EDIT: The game starts now, it is night phase and you have 24 hours to send the PM's. The teams are like Capo, X and Y send me the PM to protect A. Nothing else I think I have to add.
In the night, in the Soviet Psychiatrist some noises were heard. As long as the hours went fast, the lights were still turned on. Something happened in the way to the Soviet Psychiatrist.

Now, who made it? It is day, Sovietpersonality did not make it to the town center. You have 18 hours, I know it is pretty short but I need this to adjust to my timezone.

Alive:

A Very Proletariat Market
Iskanderev 3.1
Beskarov
AskTheCaviarGuy
Captain Sovietadder
LittleCommunist

Killed:
S0v1eTp3rS0nal1ty

Splitpersonality
06-02-2009, 02:03
Damn!

Askthepizzaguy
06-02-2009, 02:03
That was fast. Did any team send orders to defend Splitpersonality???

I don't think AVSM sent the orders on my team, and I fully admit, I did not either.

LittleGrizzly
06-02-2009, 02:12
I sent my orders in, had a report back from Caius detailing how it went down...

There was an excuse for being disordered today... but whoever doesn't protect tomorrow shall be suspicious...

Im going to keep this result to myself and tomorrow night hopefully i can use it to find out who didn't protect...

Im fairly sure Iksander sent his orders in also... we didn't protect sovietpersonality though...

A Very Super Market
06-02-2009, 02:24
Me and ATPG have not discussed in the slightest.

Askthepizzaguy
06-02-2009, 02:27
A-team needs work. Well I'll vote however way you wish, AVSM. Send me a message detailing who you want to protect tonight.

LittleGrizzly
06-02-2009, 03:48
Tut tut, I thought with the A-Team defeat shall not be possible!

When the reality is... with the A-Team victory shall not be possible!

~;)

How did team Beskarov and ermm *checks list* CaptainSovietAdder do ?

Did you to send in orders for a protection or did you fail also...?

My vote shall fall on comrade Bekarov for the moment... if you have a night result from caius please pm me and we can discuss it...

Until then Vote Beskarov

Beskar
06-02-2009, 04:10
Captain SovietAdder never got to me about Protection order. He disappeared from face of planet.

I suspect him of being the Capitalist. Due to failing to protect because of him.

LittleGrizzly
06-02-2009, 04:19
hmm... i shall give you the benefit of the doubt for the moment...

So im guessing this means you also haven't a night result pm for caius ?

Unvote Beskarov
Vote CaptainSovietAdder

Iksanderov did you manage to get your order in and recieve a night result from Caius ?

Guys we need to make sure we get in the orders next time, i suggest you begin planning who you are to protect in the night now so that its sorted in plenty of time, there shall be no excuses for failure next round...

Beskar
06-02-2009, 04:24
I sent Caius a night order, he replied saying BlackAdder has to send it too. I pm'd Blackadder and well... yeah, no night action.

I thought the A-team were meant to be protecting Split anyway?

LittleGrizzly
06-02-2009, 04:28
In that case I guess you only get a night result if you both send in a pm, so i guess that clears my partner...

Beskars story rings true for me at the moment... this leave Adder and the A-Team as my main suspects...

Beskar
06-02-2009, 04:31
Vote: Captain SovietAdder

He has read the protection PM, but never bothered to reply to me, or send in the order.


Also, this is my 1000th post!

A Very Super Market
06-02-2009, 04:37
Hooray for using memorable occasions to cause someone's death!

Askthepizzaguy
06-02-2009, 06:54
I completely forgot to send in the order and myself and AVSM never discussed it.

I'm not the bad one, so I take at least half of the responsibility for that one. Wouldn't surprise me if I get lynched for this mistake, but such is life. Can't win em all.

vote: Captain Sovietadder

Iskander 3.1
06-02-2009, 17:21
Hey all, sorry I forgot to send in my night order for night one. I'll be more careful next time.

Beskar
06-02-2009, 17:35
I sent my orders in, had a report back from Caius detailing how it went down...

There was an excuse for being disordered today... but whoever doesn't protect tomorrow shall be suspicious...

Im going to keep this result to myself and tomorrow night hopefully i can use it to find out who didn't protect...

Im fairly sure Iksander sent his orders in also... we didn't protect sovietpersonality though...

Iskander says he never sent an order, when I sent mine, I was simply told BlackAdder had to send it too.

While BlackAdder ignored it, so we couldn't protect, apparently, you got a successful one when Iskander just commented that he didn't.

Unvote: Captain SovietAdder
Vote: LittleGrizzly

Splitpersonality
06-02-2009, 17:39
"How it went down" could mean many things, including how he watched me die at the hands of so-and-so or whatever.

Writeups can still happen without orders from all parties.

Beskar
06-02-2009, 17:52
Could Caius confirm that? If so, my apologises to LittleGrizzley, please don't take offence if I was incorrect.

LittleGrizzly
06-02-2009, 19:52
Funnily enough Beskar i was thinking to vote you for exactly the same reason...

Basically my protection was called unsuccessful, it said because the target was not attacked, it didn't mention anything about Iksanders orders not going in and Caius did not pm me saying about Iksander either...

Basically as it is at the moment one of 3 things is happening...

1) Beskar is lying
2) Im lying
3) Caius isn't using a uniform method of giving out results, hence beskar and me getting different things from caius, despite both sending in pms for protection with our parner missing it...

There is one other possibility... Me and Iksaner were to protect ATPG, there was no attack so no need to tell of teamate not turning up... if beskar tried to protect split... could be where the differences lie...

I wouldn't go all out saying this stuff if i knew Iksaner was going to come in and tell of his failed order also...

That does make me suspicious... i thought me and iksander were done in plenty of time...

Fos Iksaner

Caius
06-02-2009, 20:01
Could Caius confirm that? If so, my apologises to LittleGrizzley, please don't take offence if I was incorrect.
My PMs just say if the protection failed or not.

Caius
06-02-2009, 20:18
I think there is a three way tie. Let me recount that first.
Niet tovarischi. I was wrong. Captain Sovietadder is the one who has two votes, against I dont remember who are the others. You know.

He was quiet as a stone, scared as a little boy, worried as a member of the KGB. He does not see the enemy, neither casts a vote nor a thought. This brought him death.

Send the PMs.

Alive:

A Very Proletariat Market
Iskanderev 3.1
Beskarov
AskTheCaviarGuy
LittleCommunist

Killed:
S0v1eTp3rS0nal1ty
Captain Sovietadder

Beskar
06-02-2009, 20:52
Sorry Little Grizzley, this is what was said by Caius.


You have to team up with somebody. Sorry, I didn't explain it in the PM. to which then I asked Captain BlackAdder.

So mistake happened around there.

Splitpersonality
06-02-2009, 21:10
We can't let confusion over such simple thingscause us to fight over it. Please explain yourselves clearly!

LittleGrizzly
06-02-2009, 23:44
Ohh I think i get it, was it that you didn't state in your pm you were protecting with somebody.... ?

Well i kinda have a plan for tonight...

The a-team will organise protection on someone

Me and Iskander will protect someone tonight..

Beskar will ummm... remain vigilant and brush up on his marx like a good communist...

Tomorrow the four of us who should have been protecting (or the 3 of us left if one of us 4 dies) can compare our protection results to confirm innocence... either all 3 check out and Beskar is mafia as only one left... or someone doesn't check out and they are the mafia. That is aslong as we have a kill...

This only works if everyone bar the mafia sends in thier protection pms.... so make sure to get them in...

Iskander 3.1
06-03-2009, 00:38
Ok, sending in my night PM order.

Askthepizzaguy
06-03-2009, 00:40
AVSM, please send me a message telling me your night protection order.

LittleGrizzly
06-03-2009, 00:59
My night order is now sent, so team Grizzly (~;)) is a definite go for tonight, A-team make sure you get it sorted...

Iskander 3.1
06-03-2009, 01:03
Team Grizzly? Grrrr. Alright, alright. :clown:

Askthepizzaguy
06-03-2009, 01:33
The A-team has decided to protected someone I admire. We are ready to roll.

Oh, and Papa Bear... good luck.

LittleGrizzly
06-03-2009, 02:32
Team Grizzly? Grrrr. Alright, alright. :clown:

:laugh4::laugh4:

The A-team has decided to protected someone I admire.

Aww, shucks, what can i say... I admire myself to ~;)

Oh, and Papa Bear... good luck.

As if i wasn't paranoid enough about death because my over activity...

Caius
06-03-2009, 23:01
I kinda was sick, and now, its night time! (actions incoming!)

Caius
06-03-2009, 23:14
The night was cold. There were people coming and going, but nothing. It was just another cold night in Orgahstan. Boring as hell, a good soviet movie about defeating nazis could had been better than nothing.


Alive:

A Very Proletariat Market
Iskanderev 3.1
Beskarov
AskTheCaviarGuy
LittleCommunist

Killed:
S0v1eTp3rS0nal1ty
Captain Sovietadder

Askthepizzaguy
06-03-2009, 23:36
Ooooh someone's protection worked. :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

AVSM and I can testify that our protection failed (we didn't protect a person who was attacked) but it would have succeeded if that person was attacked.

LittleGrizzly
06-03-2009, 23:50
No actually it didn't... team Grizzly's result is basically the same as yours...

This either means that the killer couldn't kill because he was one of the protection teams, or becuase he was the only one not in a protection team....

So yeah it could be anyone of five...

Well on the bright side we discouraged the killer from killing!!

the cloud being that no one is proven innocent...

Edit: time to go back to good old fashioned detective work and gut instinct...

Askthepizzaguy
06-03-2009, 23:58
Checking for inactivity.

I didn't see anyone inactive.

Who is the odd man out for protection teams, again?

LittleGrizzly
06-04-2009, 00:47
I think it was deliberate, the way i set it out if it was beskar he'd be found out, if it was a member of team grizzly or the a-team both players would end up pointing fingers at each other and both would be lynched over 2 days...

Also I think theres the part were we lynch someone first.. so there won't be any odd man out this time...

TBH i have a slight suspicion of my teamate Iksander because i thought first round we had plenty of time to get orders in... although i was saying in thread he did get his orders in but he didn't... so basically he passed up a free oppurtunity to clear himself...

Ok i just talked myself out of that one... this is going to require some thinking and maybe a re read of the thread..

Askthepizzaguy
06-04-2009, 00:59
I also suspect Iskander, but no more so than most of the others. I can only begin with the basic premise that I know I am innocent, and that last night, our protection of a certain player failed because he was not attacked.

If a protection had happened, and succeeded, then we could clear that person as innocent.

LittleGrizzly
06-04-2009, 01:15
Ideally we need a sucessful protection, that would clear the protecting team and the attacked... and with 4 of us left after todays lynch, the mafia would be the remaining person...

I dont see us getting that lucky though...

Beskar
06-04-2009, 01:20
I have sent no to PM's to Caius.

But a stalement really sucks though, cursing Mafia. Unfortunately, I don't know what a "failure" PM looks like, but would it be a different PM if for example, your partner failed to turn up to the protection because they murdered some one else.

Askthepizzaguy
06-04-2009, 01:22
vote: LittleGrizzly

A Very Super Market
06-04-2009, 01:27
Well, it should be easy to deduce what happened. A member of the protection groups is mafia, and did not attempt to kill anyone lest they be revealed. Or, the odd man out simply forgot.

LittleGrizzly
06-04-2009, 05:08
See I was thinking about voting Pizza, now it'd just look like a revenge vote...

For now ill leave it as...

FoS ATPG

On the first night orders what happened, was AVSM unable to make it on in time or did you make no attempt to organise some protection ?

As someone who's more active than me i would think you would have at least done that much as your usual townie self, actually your usual townie self would have been flooding AVSM with pm's and then screaming the walls down that he didn't get back to you...

Ok i have kind of convinced myself anyway... though depending on your answers i may change back...

Vote ATPG

Edit: just went back and looked at your post...

Ohh somebodys protection worked (loads of clapping smileys) I don't think ATPG would have assumed that... or townie ATPG at least..

Edit 2: that whole trusting in your own innocence thing rings some alarm bells as well...

Beskar
06-04-2009, 05:27
Vote: Ask the Pepperoni Guy

Also, thanks AVSM, I didn't think of that, and I think in that way, you just proved my innocence. I made a conscious effort to arrange some protection with BlackAdder but he never touched this thread since. =/

Askthepizzaguy
06-04-2009, 05:29
See I was thinking about voting Pizza, now it'd just look like a revenge vote...

I don't really mind. I'm innocent so if I die and the game continues, you will look bad.


For now ill leave it as...

FoS ATPG

Why so cautious about voting for me? Strange.


On the first night orders what happened, was AVSM unable to make it on in time or did you make no attempt to organise some protection ?

Frankly I was busy with other games and the speed of this game sort of hit me before I could get off my butt and do anything.



As someone who's more active than me i would think you would have at least done that much as your usual townie self, actually your usual townie self would have been flooding AVSM with pm's and then screaming the walls down that he didn't get back to you...

Well I'm not my usual townie self, I'm my hosting mafia games and playing in several of them townie self, which sometimes makes mistakes. However, that was a dumb move. Probably one I wouldn't have made if I were paying attention, and trust me if I were mafia I would be a hawk, like I was in the other mini game.


Ok i have kind of convinced myself anyway... though depending on your answers i may change back...

Vote ATPG

You can talk yourself into things. :laugh4:

I'm not sure what answers I can give. I am definitely not mafia this game, but after the previous one I have the boy who cried wolf syndrome. My 5/6 record of winning as mafia would seem to indicate that as soon as I got a mafia role, I would be doing my very best to win. My sloppy play this game, admittedly, makes me a good candidate for a lynch because I don't deserve to be above suspicion. However, we only have so many townies and if we lynch the wrong person, very soon we will be in a position where the game is in jeopardy.

I don't mind you voting for me, but if I get lynched, I will be proved innocent. So if you want, I will vote for myself and not unvote unless YOU tell me to.


Edit: just went back and looked at your post...

Ohh somebodys protection worked (loads of clapping smileys) I don't think ATPG would have assumed that... or townie ATPG at least..

I have to admit, from your perspective that probably looks scummy. Chalk that up to sloppy play again, but my team's protection failed and there is only one other team, so... I have to assume since there was no murder, someone's protection worked. It's not much of a leap.

By the way, hi ~:wave: I am townie ATPG.


Edit 2: that whole trusting in your own innocence thing rings some alarm bells as well...

Yeah, yeah.

If you're curious to why I voted for you, I'll tell you. Your own calm, reasonable, verbose discussion with me set off alarm bells in my brain as well. You seemed to be very buddy buddy with me, and in this game that's not a good idea. Is it just me or are you more talkative than usual?

So, funnily enough, you're voting me on strange behavior and I'm doing the same for you. But what is funny is that your vote seems to be a retaliation vote out of nervousness.

You want I should take my vote off of you? Who else should I vote for?

Askthepizzaguy
06-04-2009, 05:32
unvote, vote: Askthepizzaguy

And I won't unvote unless either of you who are voting for me change your mind.

Beskar
06-04-2009, 05:37
You know what happens to AVSM when he does that, don't you? He gets lynched.

In other words, I am going to call you out on your bluff.

Voting for yourself and being apathetic actually helps the Mafia as you are just giving them time to do yet another night kill on the group.

I only change my mind when I am either convinced of the better argument or gut feeling. So putting yourself like this just makes me go with the flow as it were, and allow you to die.

Askthepizzaguy
06-04-2009, 05:47
You know what happens to AVSM when he does that, don't you? He gets lynched.

In other words, I am going to call you out on your bluff.

Voting for yourself and being apathetic actually helps the Mafia as you are just giving them time to do yet another night kill on the group.

I only change my mind when I am either convinced of the better argument or gut feeling. So putting yourself like this just makes me go with the flow as it were, and allow you to die.



Actually I did that sort of thing before AVSM did. And I'm not apathetic. I've protested my innocence as best I can without any sort of proof and asked both of you to change your votes.

It is your choice, I don't have the votes to overturn your decisions. I can only protest and say repeatedly that I am innocent. And, if you want me dead this round, I'll even ensure that happens.

But don't you dare say I am apathetic, because I put more effort into responding to your posts than a dozen lurkers do in entire games. Thanks very much. :bow:

LittleGrizzly
06-04-2009, 05:49
I don't like it when you offer your lynch or vote, it throws me off and you've done it as mafia... so do with your vote as you please...

Its a fairly reasonable excuse about the speed of the thing, i don't think ive got caught out too many times though and you are more active than me, fair enough about your other mafia games but its also a nice cover...

You can talk yourself into things.

Lol, it probably's looks quite fake but im thinking out loud so to speak, whilst thinking over it i change my mind, i suppose i could edit the post but i like to show my trail of thought...

I guess it isn't crazy to assume a protection worked but its not the first thing i thought, i was thinking i might have got the mafia worried with the plan we i laid out so they laid low

Firstly yes im more talkative, one because i had some kind of plan here, so i was trying to get that across... and i was trying to encourage people to organise protection... and because i haven't had much sleep (notice me posting alot more elsewhere as well ?)

I do find it quite ironic that we were both getting paranoid about each other because of being reasonable talkative ect.. although you have to take my word on that one because it does look like a revenge vote...

But anyway i was thinking on something sasaki said the other day, one of his flaws is he concentrates too much on active players... i think i may be doing that myself...

Unvote

And stop offering me your vote or anyone else that matter... it brings back bad memorys from another life in Ireland...

LittleGrizzly
06-04-2009, 05:51
Damn it Pizza Vote for yourself when im unvoting you!!

this does make me want to move my vote back on you... why should we listen to your vote yourself appeal when you've done it as mafia ?

Edit: A small FoS on Beskar... maybe my case was a good case or maybe my case was just easy to jump onto...

Beskar
06-04-2009, 06:06
I think the day AVSM is actually a mafia is the day he posts. Last time he was mafia, he was actually active. This was in one of Pizzaguys minigame threads.

A Very Super Market
06-04-2009, 06:09
Great, so you're saying that you'll lynch me anyways. Very good. What do I have to say? You are hellbent on killing ATPG, and I have no way to stop. Minis are guessing games.

Beskar
06-04-2009, 06:18
Iskander/LG, who did you protect last night?

Also AVSM... I called your innocent, why are you so upset with that?

A Very Super Market
06-04-2009, 06:23
I don't care if anyone calls me innocent or scum, but I don't understand what constitutes as "lurking"

Askthepizzaguy
06-04-2009, 06:24
Iskander hasn't posted since 6-02. He's invisible, and he isn't adding to the discussion. AVSM is posting more than him, and to be honest I feel like giving AVSM a break since he's been lynched a lot lately.

I can't get a reading off of someone who is invisible and doesn't post. And he hasn't voted yet, so that makes him pretty much useless to us anyway.

Beskar
06-04-2009, 06:27
Thinking about it logically, as in kill choice, last nights set up, if anything, proved my innocence.

Let me example.

Imagine one of you 4 are the killer, here are your options:
Attack your partner - The write up would heavily suggest it is you.
Attack the opposite team - This would give your partner a failed message saying your protection never happened due to partner not joining you, it would have revealed.
Attacking me - I was a logical protection choice, thus it would have just proved my innocence, and a protection would have failed.

But there is another factor in the equation -
Krushev is a regular townie, but if lynched or killed, the game end

By this logic, Splitpersonality was not Krushev, which means the real Krushev is in this game and some one is covering for/as him.

Beskar
06-04-2009, 06:39
Unvote: AskthePizzaGuy

Some one on LG's team is Kruschev and the other is the Bad One. Problem is, which is which.

it is the only logicial conclusion. The game would have ended if Split was Kruschev, but it hasn't. I was paired with BlackAdder, and AVSM and Pizzaguy were paired with eachother.

LG and Iskander never said they were paired with eachother. One of them could have actually been paired with Split, who was an imposter.

LittleGrizzly
06-04-2009, 06:39
AVSM at the moment the tally is

1 ATPG (Beskar)
1 LG (ATPG)

So your vote is prettty useful at the moment

Beskar im not so sure about your theory, me and isk protected ATPG

Im going to leave my vote as an abstain and come back to after some sleep...

Vote Abstain

Edit: it mentioned Isk in my team, its why i automatically paired with him, infact i was the first person to state who my partner was so we could figure out who was with who, incase it would help...

Edit 2: Im fairly sure Caius paired everyone up, or at least thats what i thought...

Beskar
06-04-2009, 06:41
I am just confused. I am cursing Caius for not ending the game if Kruschev is dead.

Also, LG just made a very incorrect tally. ATPG voted for himself, not LG. Intentional mistake?

LittleGrizzly
06-04-2009, 06:43
Ohh right, I think i basically just concluded they were together as everyone else was paired. So guys did we pair you or were you paired ?

Askthepizzaguy
06-04-2009, 06:44
Wow I got protected? Sweet! I feel popular.

unvote, vote: Iskander

But I can be convinced. Show your work.

Beskar
06-04-2009, 06:47
Well, I put it this way. There are 7 people in the game. And everyone is in pairs.

The one not in a pair is obviously either Kruschev or the Bad One. Split said he was Kruschev and got killed, except Caius said the game ends if Krus is either killed or lynched.

As I was paired with BlackAdder (who is now dead), and ATPG/AVSM are claiming they are paired. LG and Iskander are claiming they are paired. One of you pairs must be lying. If the real Kruschev just speaks out, we obviously lynch the other person and thus win the game. However, the flaw is, if the real Kruschev gets voted against, we lose.

LittleGrizzly
06-04-2009, 06:47
It was Isk's idea, i just went along with it...

Isk has been a bit more active on the pm's than in the thread, not that that is nessecarily a defence just letting you know...

I do find his turning down of a chance to prove his innocence rather putting me off voting for him though...

Incase you don't remember i was convinced because of the pm i recieved that me and isk had defended pizza and there was a kill at the time, until isk came and said he didn't get his order in, people were believing it (i was at least)

Beskar
06-04-2009, 06:50
But if Isk never sent in his order, how could you get a result saying you protected pizza?

Beskar
06-04-2009, 06:57
I got an overwhelming urge that two people are lying or that Caius is just messing with my mind.

This is apparently the case -

There are seven people. 3 pairs, one lonely. :) :) :) :) :) :@ :(

Working on basic assumption, Kruschev is the one alone. Working on a fact, Krushev can't be killed or lynched as it would be game over.

Split who claimed to be :( didn't have the game end. Therefore, he must be a :)

That means, in the game, there are :):) :):) :@:(

Blackadder who was my partner was lynched, therefore, that breaks our pair up, leaving :) :):) :@:(

This means I am a :) and one pair is :):) while the other pair is :@:( (bad one and kruschev together)

In essence this is the last round.

Beskar
06-04-2009, 06:59
On top of that, there is only this alternative.

If in fact, both pairs are correct. It would be :):) :):@ :(, since I am that :(, it would imply I am kruschev.

As if I was mafia, it would mean :@ :):) :):( Which means one pair is lying again.

Beskar
06-04-2009, 07:03
This is the best solution. One person from each pair sends me their role PM.

If my theory is correct, it would mean I basically get One PM from a KGB, and another form either Kruschev/Bad one. If the bad one tries to edit his role PM, I will just compare it to my own role-pm, thus, I would know it was a fake.

If both PM's, however, are correct. I would have to throw my hands up in the end and basically quit the game, as it would mean Caius as host is screwing with me as in pure theory that result is impossible. (unless a KGB member edits the name of their friend it in, which would defeat the whole purpose of winning the game)


Since in this is in favour of myself, and 3 others in here, it would be stupid not to comply with the request. As only the bad one would have to be worried about this request. I will obviously post the result here so you know I wasn't cheating in anyway.

LittleGrizzly
06-04-2009, 07:03
But if Isk never sent in his order, how could you get a result saying you protected pizza?

well this is why i assumed he had sent in his order, it said in different words that the defence of the target was unsucessful because the target wasn't attacked...

I assumed this to mean that if he had been attacked it would have been successful so two people must have been there.... obviously this is wrong but it seemed to imply what i thought...

Also the tally earlier, forgot pizza unvoted me...

Edit Beskar what is to stop a krushev kgb pairing and a mafia kgb pairing ?

Why do kgb have to be with another kgb ?

and how is it impossible for you to be mafia... im struggling to follow that...

Askthepizzaguy
06-04-2009, 07:04
I must not have gotten a lot of sleep, because it all looks like a blur to me. :laugh4:

Whichever. I go for the quiet one who has been more active than he seems.

Beskar
06-04-2009, 07:27
I am innocent in the sense that any action that any of you take is pointless, except not for me. As I could kill you. LG, then lead the town to accuse Iskander and lynch him, then I would kill either ATPG or AVSM and win the game.

There is no reason for me not to have killed, but there is ample reason for one of you.

LG/Isk, I suggest one of you did my instruction, then we can end the game.

Askthepizzaguy
06-04-2009, 07:29
If it is AVSM, I am willing to give him a pass this game. Have a cookie on me, my friend.

Let's go with Iskander or LittleGrizzly. You pick, jedi master Beskar.

Beskar
06-04-2009, 07:32
I am waiting for them to send the role, as if one of them is the legitimate player, they just lost us the game if they lied to me.

So I won't take responsiblity of losing the game, I will blame whichever was the one trying to deceive me.

Vote: LittleGrizzly

AVSM, if one of them votes for the other player, vote for that player to keep it as a tie. Don't want the bad one to get a cheap win.

Askthepizzaguy
06-04-2009, 07:33
unvote, vote: LittleGrizzly.


Post your role PM please.

Iskander 3.1
06-04-2009, 16:17
Sorry guys, I learned the hard way that playing 3 games at once is a bad idea. I'll try and be as active here as I can.

Vote: LittleGrizzly

A Very Super Market
06-04-2009, 16:23
Some tie. It's all in favour of LG now.

Caius
06-05-2009, 01:56
LG is lynched. More details coming when the forums get back.

Askthepizzaguy
06-10-2009, 03:14
Knock knock. It's been 5 days. :bow:

Caius
06-10-2009, 20:35
Only one person sent a PM. shame

Askthepizzaguy
06-10-2009, 20:37
OH!

I think people were confused and waiting on your "details when the forums get back"

I don't think people even knew it was night phase.

LittleGrizzly
06-10-2009, 20:51
Yeah TBH Caius i think people were waiting on my lynch write up....

I mean as far as they know i could have been Krushev or the bad spy and so you were about to do the final write up....

I would suspect the later joiners to the bandwagon on me...

Beskar
06-10-2009, 20:53
LG is lynched. More details coming when the forums get back.

I thought this equaled = Game is over, dirt comes when people are here.

Askthepizzaguy
06-11-2009, 06:03
I choose to shave Beskarov tonight.

I mean save Beskarov. He looks good in a beard. All commies do.

Iskander 3.1
06-11-2009, 19:47
Only one person sent a PM. shame

Probably the mafia?

Askthepizzaguy
06-11-2009, 23:06
Sorry guys, I learned the hard way that playing 3 games at once is a bad idea. I'll try and be as active here as I can.

Vote: LittleGrizzly

Obviously the mafia.

Iskander put the finisher on LittleGrizzly after lurking.

You'd better kill me, Iskander, because I will absolutely be voting for you.

Caius
06-14-2009, 05:07
I have two options, to forget or to continue? Should I continue?

Askthepizzaguy
06-14-2009, 05:23
if you take into account AVSM and mine's orders to protect Beskar, then ya.

Go ahead.

Beskar
06-14-2009, 07:08
Oh, thanks. *blush*

Askthepizzaguy
06-17-2009, 12:19
I declare everyone the winner. :book:

:dancinglock:

Iskander 3.1
06-17-2009, 17:27
zomg! in b4 teh lockzorz!
:dancinglock:

(please don't ban me for spamming, I've just always wanted to do that)

Beskar
06-17-2009, 19:57
Good game to the Bad One and Good game to Stalin?

I am terribly confused, Caius rules don't make much sense. :p

Askthepizzaguy
06-21-2009, 03:34
Seeing as this one is pretty much dead; I'm curious to know who was who.

LittleGrizzly
06-21-2009, 03:55
Role: The scapegoat

You will be targeted by the mafia, your fellow KGB agents and just about everyone else. The entire communist world wants you dead, the entire capitalist world wants you dead and people with no interest in the politics of economics want you dead too.

Special Ability: During the day phase you shall collects the votes of almost every other player, during the night phase almost every player will try to kill you. Should you be killed at night or lynched during the day everyone else wins as you are the perfect scapegoat!

Beskar
06-22-2009, 20:15
So it was LittleGrizzly and we win? Makes sense.