Log in

View Full Version : Rhegion?



Vaal
06-20-2009, 07:19
So I took Taras, great fight and all. To my surprise a little man comes up and tells me that *blah blah your expanding Rome, next take Rhegion from the traitor garrison" . Sweet! As much as I love free game play a little direction is perfect in a game like EB. So I besiege it. Lo-and behold, they Sally out to meet me, and are vanquished. The announcer pops up... Then quickly disappears. It was their turn...

My question: What does the advisor say after you take Rhegion, and does he continue saying things after that?

Atraphoenix
06-20-2009, 07:25
If you take it, it will not appear again.

Vaal
06-20-2009, 07:34
I have already taken Rhegion though, I just missed the message because I took it on the Eleutheroi's turn.

Mikhail Mengsk
06-20-2009, 10:26
It says that roman's honour had been restored and other factions' relationship would raise. I don't know if there is a real gamplay impact, but it's still a satisfaction to complete the mission XD

A quick question: why it's Rhegion and not Rhegium?

machinor
06-20-2009, 10:48
Rhegion is the Greek version of the province name. The name "Rhegium" is the latinzed version. As Greek was the dominant language in Southern Italy at the beginning of the EB time period, the Greek name should be more appropriate.

Maion Maroneios
06-20-2009, 11:26
Indeed. Rhegion was a Greek city-state before the Romaioi dogs came barking at her doorstep. It's for the same reason why Taras isn't named Tarentum (Tarentum, ha!), or Syrakousai Syracuse, or... Well you get it now I believe.

Maion

Mikhail Mengsk
06-20-2009, 13:13
MMMh it's impossible to change cities' names during the game, is it?

machinor
06-20-2009, 13:23
It is, but it's not advisable, since that could seriously bitch up the script.

Ludens
06-20-2009, 13:51
It is, but it's not advisable, since that could seriously bitch up the script.

It won't cause crashes or anything, but it will result in the script not recognizing the town anymore. As long as you hold the town I don't think it matters, but if the A.I. conquers it, it won't get a government placed and has its recruitment effectively crippled.

Maion Maroneios
06-20-2009, 13:58
So shortly: Just don't do it. And why in Zeus' name would you change the proper Greek name in this imitation-language Latin?

Maion

Mikhail Mengsk
06-20-2009, 15:02
Because Latin is the victor's language XD

Maion Maroneios
06-20-2009, 16:20
Then why did the official language in many states remain Greek? Why are so many scientific terms written in Greek? Why did later Byzantine Emperors adopt Greek as their official language? Why is Latin itself nothing more than a copy of an Euboian Greek dialect? :beam:

Maion

Mediolanicus
06-20-2009, 17:12
It won't cause crashes or anything, but it will result in the script not recognizing the town anymore. As long as you hold the town I don't think it matters, but if the A.I. conquers it, it won't get a government placed and has its recruitment effectively crippled.

Plus you won't get any reforms.

So only change names after all your refrom and when you are certain you will never lose the city.

Mikhail Mengsk
06-20-2009, 17:49
Then why did the official language in many states remain Greek?

Modern greek is not ancient greek. Anyway, just few states speaks greek today. Spanish, French and Italian (Romanian is influenced too) came from Latin, not greek.



Why are so many scientific terms written in Greek?

Most of them are written in latin, come on! The latin became the scientific and cultural language and is STILL used...



Why did later Byzantine Emperors adopt Greek as their official language?

Because they were a mixture of hellenic, eastern and roman cultures. Maybe Greek was the most used language in their domains, so they adopted it. Logic.

Should i say how many other countries adopted Latin? No, it's worthless: they used Latin because in their domains the Latin was the dominant language...



Why is Latin itself nothing more than a copy of an Euboian Greek dialect? :beam:

Maion

It's a different language at all it's only, and obviously, influenced by Greek.

Because the hellenic culture was spreaded through entire mediterranean area, so it's obvious that a rising power in the area would be greately influenced by that. The Magna Grecia was relatively near to Rome, and very powerful at the time.

Maion Maroneios
06-20-2009, 17:59
Wow man, chill out. And I meant Greek remained promiment in many states, my bad. I know Latin was influenced on Greek, heavily. Texts were continued to be written in Greek, even far ahead of the Empire. And what you said about the Byzantine Empire was lame. Why wouldn't they have adopted it for so long if it was so prominent? Anyway, this belongs to another place.

Maion

Atilius
06-20-2009, 18:32
My question: What does the advisor say after you take Rhegion, ...
Senatores, the legions have taken Rhegion from Roman traitors and restored the city to its inhabitants. Some 300 captured Roman renegades have been scourged and beheaded in the Forum. By this action the good name of Rome has been restored, so far as possible, among the allies.

Vaal
06-20-2009, 19:10
Senatores, the legions have taken Rhegion from Roman traitors and restored the city to its inhabitants. Some 300 captured Roman renegades have been scourged and beheaded in the Forum. By this action the good name of Rome has been restored, so far as possible, among the allies.


Thank you :D :2thumbsup:

Knight of Heaven
06-20-2009, 19:11
Modern greek is not ancient greek. Anyway, just few states speaks greek today. Spanish, French and Italian (Romanian is influenced too) came from Latin, not greek.

You forget Catalan and Portuguese.

Portuguese is the latin language wich retain most Latinism today: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_language
:) and the 5th language more spoken in the world, and the 3th more spoken in europe :)
A poet once called the portuguese language was "the last flower of Latium, wild and beautiful"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_language

Also latin language were strongly influenced by ancient greek and etruscan language. Its very revelant, becouse most roman culture was very influenced by etruscan culture(people from etrĂºria), the art and the way of making ceremic, as well the triumph traditions comes from etrurian tribes. its important to understand this becouse vulgar latin isnt a copy of ancient greek. it retains much from varius cultures in italic peninsula, naturaly.