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Devastatin Dave
06-25-2009, 23:37
One of the world's most famous and biggest entertainer has died. Inflammatory statement removed. SF
So what will be his legacy?
Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
06-25-2009, 23:39
Is this a joke, or are you just not bothering with a link?
Crazed Rabbit
06-25-2009, 23:43
It's real. (http://www.tmz.com/)*
CR
*expect link decay
Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
06-25-2009, 23:45
Seems so: http://news.bbc.co.uk/ (BBC News Frontpage).
Beefy187
06-25-2009, 23:46
Didn't like what he was doing these days, but...
Still a big fan of few of his song.
Rest in peace :bow:
DevDave, you are a day late and a dollar shor (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=118760)t.
And your thread doesn't even have Captain Eo videos. For shame.
Well, according the Associated Press and LA Times hes dead.
GeneralHankerchief
06-25-2009, 23:50
ABC News had it as well.
Adrian II
06-26-2009, 00:12
One of the world's most famous and biggest entertainer has died. Removed as in OP. SF.
So what will be his legacy?Can you at least hold the innuendo till he's buried? This is not Usenet and we have rules here. I found it very, very hard to stick to them in certain cases, but I did so out of respect for other people.
Death --> mourning --> burial --> criticism.
In that order.
Here, here!
Reenk Roink
06-26-2009, 00:20
Shocking really... :shame:
Michael was probably the greatest entertainer ever. At least in my books. Thoughts and prayers to his family.
I will now go listen to Thriller... :shame:
Hosakawa Tito
06-26-2009, 00:25
Considering he's been living in a fishbowl since the age of 10 may he finally find the peace and serenity that has eluded him for most of his life.
Don't just listen to Thriller, watch it.
InsaneApache
06-26-2009, 00:34
What a mixed up bloke.
LittleGrizzly
06-26-2009, 00:37
Death --> mourning --> burial --> criticism.
What he said.
As i said in the other thread, he was a bit of an odd charachter and will certainly be remembered for a long time to come. RIP MJ.
Sheogorath
06-26-2009, 00:51
The President of Coca Cola is now the King of Pop.
Rest in Peace, MJ. Snide comment removed. SF.
Hehe, even us aussies have been hearing about it.
Michael Jackson; Snide comment removed. SF. Rest in peace you poor tortured soul. :bow: :tongue:
KukriKhan
06-26-2009, 01:00
Can you at least hold the innuendo till he's buried? This is not Usenet and we have rules here. I found it very, very hard to stick to them in certain cases, but I did so out of respect for other people.
Death --> mourning --> burial --> criticism.
In that order.
Indeed. Verily, my friend.
You fellas save your wisecracks for after he's in the ground. Show a little class.
Devastatin Dave
06-26-2009, 01:11
Indeed. Verily, my friend.
You fellas save your wisecracks for after he's in the ground. Show a little class.
Nah, miotas has the best line so far...
Again i ask what will be his legacy. I'm thinking his star power will overcome his perversions. Who will take his place as the "King of Pop"? I don't even know if its possible...
Hey, for all the geezers on this thread, is this similar to the death of Elvis? I was 2 then and still have faint memeories of it.
So yeah...
I got in and queued up Special Report (the only FoxNews show I watch) on my DVR. What's on? Michael Jackson is dead- yeah, I already heard that... so I fast forward. Five minutes- Geraldo is reminiscing about Jackson. More fast forwarding, Greta is talking about Jackson. Next up, they're interviewing some cardiologist asking him how Jackson may have died- no one knows yet, but let's speculate about it for 15mins. More fastforwarding... the hour long show has ended. I click over to live TV and put on FNC- a full 2 hours after Special Report was supposed to start, and they're still talking about Michael Jackson, so I turn the TV off.
What the hell? We have election related violence in Iran, rising tensions with North Korea, Congress is considering a massive healthcare reform package, tomorrow Congress is set to take up a global warming bill, oh and some train wreck of a celebrity died. What deserves wall to wall coverage on the news networks? The dead celebrity- of course. What a sorry state our media is in. :wall:
Nah, miotas has the best line so far...
Again i ask what will be his legacy. I'm thinking his star power will overcome his perversions. Who will take his place as the "King of Pop"? I don't even know if its possible...
Hey, for all the geezers on this thread, is this similar to the death of Elvis? I was 2 then and still have faint memeories of it.
I doubt it was like elvis, he died pretty suddenly, with michael jackson its more of a "he lasted this long?" type thing.
So yeah...
I got in and queued up Special Report (the only FoxNews show I watch) on my DVR. What's on? Michael Jackson is dead- yeah, I already heard that... so I fast forward. Five minutes- Geraldo is reminiscing about Jackson. More fast forwarding, Greta is talking about Jackson. Next up, they're interviewing some cardiologist asking him how Jackson may have died- no one knows yet, but let's speculate about it for 15mins. More fastforwarding... the hour long show has ended. I click over to live TV and put on FNC- a full 2 hours after Special Report was supposed to start, and they're still talking about Michael Jackson, so I turn the TV off.
What the hell? We have election related violence in Iran, rising tensions with North Korea, Congress is considering a massive healthcare reform package, tomorrow Congress is set to take up a global warming bill, oh and some train wreck of a celebrity died. What deserves wall to wall coverage on the news networks? The dead celebrity- of course. What a sorry state our media is in. :wall:
Ha. That sucks. I only just caught it because I happened to watching at the right moment. It got about 10 minutes of coverage over a 3 hour morning show here.
Samurai Waki
06-26-2009, 01:30
Alright, a few days to go, and people will have all but forgotten him. Thank god.
Reenk Roink
06-26-2009, 01:54
So yeah...
I got in and queued up Special Report (the only FoxNews show I watch) on my DVR. What's on? Michael Jackson is dead- yeah, I already heard that... so I fast forward. Five minutes- Geraldo is reminiscing about Jackson. More fast forwarding, Greta is talking about Jackson. Next up, they're interviewing some cardiologist asking him how Jackson may have died- no one knows yet, but let's speculate about it for 15mins. More fastforwarding... the hour long show has ended. I click over to live TV and put on FNC- a full 2 hours after Special Report was supposed to start, and they're still talking about Michael Jackson, so I turn the TV off.
What the hell? We have election related violence in Iran, rising tensions with North Korea, Congress is considering a massive healthcare reform package, tomorrow Congress is set to take up a global warming bill, oh and some train wreck of a celebrity died. What deserves wall to wall coverage on the news networks? The dead celebrity- of course. What a sorry state our media is in. :wall:
Well, I've personally been watching the news for stuff on MJ. Whenever they switch to another topic I switch the channel. Different tastes I guess... :juggle2:
The coverage shouldn't be extremely surprising though, Michael Jackson was/is huge. I wasn't even born when Thriller was released and I like him.
It all started when I went to a friends house sometime in 1996 and played Michael Jackson's Moonwalker. That game and later his music videos were and still are among the coolest things I ever saw.
Good times, thanks for the memories MJ. :bow:
CountArach
06-26-2009, 02:30
What the hell? We have election related violence in Iran, rising tensions with North Korea, Congress is considering a massive healthcare reform package, tomorrow Congress is set to take up a global warming bill, oh and some train wreck of a celebrity died. What deserves wall to wall coverage on the news networks? The dead celebrity- of course. What a sorry state our media is in. :wall:
Exactly this. Should this get a cursory comment in the media? I suppose so, as he did mean a lot to some people, but the amount of coverage this is getting is far beyond that of actual news items that will impact far more people far more deeply.
Tratorix
06-26-2009, 02:35
Exactly this. Should this get a cursory comment in the media? I suppose so, as he did mean a lot to some people, but the amount of coverage this is getting is far beyond that of actual news items that will impact far more people far more deeply.
This just in, Modern media priorities skewed. News at eleven after ten hours of Micheal Jackson coverage.
seireikhaan
06-26-2009, 03:06
Rest in peace, Mr. Jackson.
Crazed Rabbit
06-26-2009, 03:33
Exactly this. Should this get a cursory comment in the media? I suppose so, as he did mean a lot to some people, but the amount of coverage this is getting is far beyond that of actual news items that will impact far more people far more deeply.
Look at this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHwyEbuWeso) produced by The Washington Post, featuring real reporters. If you have any lingering respect for DC journalists that will be quickly annihilated.
But equally revealing is their self-glorifying and delusional belief that only establishment media reporters are sufficiently Serious to be entitled to ask the President questions -- even as they fill Press Conferences with petty, vapid questions and otherwise endlessly reveal themselves to be substance-free and frivolous. Along those lines, The Washington Post claimed that "budgetary constraints" played a role in the firing of actually serious journalist Dan Froomkin, yet The Post spends money to produce and promote things like the below-posted video from "reporters" Dana Milbank and Chris Cillizza that has to be seen to be believed. Be forewarned: many will consider the video too petty to bother posting and virtually everyone will find it painfully irritating to watch. I agree with those assessments, but there is still something about it -- the oozing smugness, the view of politics as a juvenile game, the desperation to be above it all and too sophisticated to care, the total lack of self-awareness in failing to realize how embarrassingly unfunny it is -- that makes it a tour de force in illustrating what and who so much of the Washington media really are:
Not directly related, but a plain view of DC media types. Probably has something to do with the incessant coverage of Jackson's death.
CR
CountArach
06-26-2009, 03:37
Look at this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHwyEbuWeso) produced by The Washington Post, featuring real reporters. If you have any lingering respect for DC journalists that will be quickly annihilated.
I forced myself to keep going after 58 seconds and I got to 2 minutes, but that was all I could take. Truly one of the worst things on the internet :no:
EDIT: And I'm always pleased to see you quoting Greenwald.
LittleGrizzly
06-26-2009, 03:38
Maybe we should make a seperate thread for criticisms of the shallow media, this thread, at least in theory should be about paying respects to a man who died and is not even in his grave yet.
CountArach
06-26-2009, 03:49
Maybe we should make a seperate thread for criticisms of the shallow media, this thread, at least in theory should be about paying respects to a man who died and is not even in his grave yet.
Surely that is what the replica thread in the Frontroom is for?
Devastatin Dave
06-26-2009, 03:59
Surely that is what the replica thread in the Frontroom is for?
Exactly, in this thread I have given SF fits and lots of stuff to edit. SF
Tratorix
06-26-2009, 04:01
The now-excised comment found offensive by Tratorix.
I am offended by this. Not because of his death, but because Micheal Jackson jokes haven't been funny for years.
LittleGrizzly
06-26-2009, 04:03
Well this thread seems to have a dual purpose of informing about Jacksons death and making jokes about it, seen as there is (or was ?) a monatorium on ridicule before the person is buried this thread should be about paying respect, going off topic may be slightly disrespecful, and mocking him certainly is...
Anyway i realise i am also being off topic, and as no one else seems bothered by mocking a man not yet in his grave ill just quietly retreat from this thread...
Hooahguy
06-26-2009, 04:49
ok guys stop. i dont care what you think of him, its not respectful to make fun of a dead person until burial.
ok guys stop. i dont care what you think of him, its not respectful to make fun of a dead person until burial.
What? How does burial change anything? But there are two big rules of comedy,
1) don't make jokes about something that just happened and
2)a)don't make jokes about something too close. However,
2)b) If it's are on the other side of the world, then go for it.
So I can see how you may find it tasteless, hence why I said the joke was tasteless, but for all those outside of America its a free-for-all. :grin2:
Rest in Peace
When a person of note dies, it is the Backroom tradition that we do not dissect their legacy until the funeral has taken place. Until that time, only respectful posts marking their passing will be allowed.
looks pretty clear to me.
Very sad to hear of his death :shame:
LittleGrizzly
06-26-2009, 05:10
Two things Miotas,
1) Just because we are not physically in America, doesn't mean American members aren't reading the posts... they are
2) I think at is at least respectful to wait until someone is in thier final resting place before mocking them, it may still be a bit disrespectful to mock them after that, but at least it shows some respect.
Im not a fan of the man or his music, basic respect on the other hand....
Mainly think of his fans. People like Reenk, why should they be forced to listen to jokes about a performer they really liked minutes and hours after his death... its simply bad manners and i really don't like it!
KukriKhan
06-26-2009, 05:14
ALso removed in earlier post SF
I'd dare say this thread, and it's so-called contributors, is lucky, in extremis that I do not moderate here any longer.
Rest in Peace, Mister Jackson.
Kindly disregard the disrespect and lack of basic human decency shown here. Our kids know not what they do. Someday they will learn. But apparently, not today, your death-day.
God forfend any poster here meeting his untimely demise, only to be ridiculed and criticisized while his body is yet warm. One can only imagine the horror Mrs. Dave might experience visiting this site, only to read barbs and complaints about her recently departed husband, or her children's father.
Shame, I say.
This is pretty tame. You should have seen the threads and jokes that popped up after David Carradine died a few weeks ago on this martial arts forum I'm on. Pretty tasteless (but kinda funny).
Oh well.
Rest in peace Mike. You had some real talent back in the day. Too bad you turned out to be completely crazy later in life. Hopefully you'll be mainly remembered for the good and not the bad.
God forfend any poster here meeting his untimely demise, only to be ridiculed and criticisized while his body is yet warm.
I honestly don't care if people insult me as long as it's funny, but I will leave well enough alone.
My thoughts:
Any jokes about rape of any kind, but esp concerning children is not only in bad taste, but extremely disrespectful, irreverent, and despicable. There is nothing even remotely funny about making jokes about people being humiliated and raped. Put it into a personal context and think what you would feel like if you as a child or you son got raped by MJ, and everywhere, everyone was making jokes about it.
With respect, JVA, commentary on Jackson can wait. Moreover, a criminal investigation was conducted, along with a trial, and Jackson was acquitted on all counts. As their is no demonstrable evidence of his guilt, we can table the critique until later. SF
KukriKhan
06-26-2009, 05:33
I give up.
You fellas have your fun.
G'head... make fun of a dead guy. Haha!
He can't complain.
Who the hell cares what kinda suffering his family might bear?
Just:
remember that when your day comes. And it's always sooner than you think.
Snarky comment removed. SF
Silly me.
I give up.
You fellas have your fun.
G'head... make fun of a dead guy. Haha!
He can't complain.
Who the hell cares what kinda suffering his family might bear?
Just:
remember that when your day comes. And it's always sooner than you think.
Removed above. SF
Silly me.
umm...wow. So you insult people because they disagree with you? Removed in the interests of a calmer tone. SF
Beefy187
06-26-2009, 05:40
Theres was plenty of opportunity to mock the man, and there will be plenty more in the years to come.
I don't see why we have to mock him in the day of his death. Leave him alone for few days for the sake of those around him.
Tratorix
06-26-2009, 05:43
Sometimes I wonder why I don't get involved in any of the discussions in the Backroom. Luckily, a thread like this always comes along to remind me.
Pannonian
06-26-2009, 05:53
What? How does burial change anything? But there are two big rules of comedy,
1) don't make jokes about something that just happened and
2)a)don't make jokes about something too close. However,
2)b) If it's are on the other side of the world, then go for it.
So I can see how you may find it tasteless, hence why I said the joke was tasteless, but for all those outside of America its a free-for-all. :grin2:
1. It's the rule in the Backroom to be respectful of the dead until burial.
2. If you can't stick by the rules, find another forum.
Sticking to rule no.1 above, his musical legacy will be considerable, although it was a legacy long before he actually stopped making music. While his later material was almost a parody of his image, his earlier material, beginning with his Jackson Five period, and probably peaking with his early solo stuff, was superlative.
Fine. I'll toss this out here. I kinda get the feeling that post was partially directed at me Kukri, if not then so be it, my following points stand.
First, people that I do not respect do not suddenly gain any from me when they pass on. Life doesn't work that way, people generally don't work that way, I don't work that way. The Falwell thread stands out in my mind here. The man stood for just about everything that I find abhorrent and wrong with American culture today, I did and do have zero respect for him. Same goes for everyone else who falls into this category in my view.
That said, I think we all can agree that some modicum of civility is appropriate in these situations. The issue is that I think there will probably be a wide divergence of opinions on what exactly that is.
Personally, I do not have any hard and fast rules on this. Generally a day or two until said individual is laid to rest in the ground, or whatever wake or service is done seems appropriate to me. Excessively drug out funerary arrangements tend to invalidate this. During this period, I would agree that it is appropriate not to lambast said individual, print gratuitously horrendous stories about them, or the like. Excessively negative commentary is out. The family and friends of said person should be left to their grief. However, should those surviving members doing anything excessively dramatic or confrontational such as lashing out at others, then in my opinion all bets are off. As I said, I may not respect the deceased, but I believe in respecting the deceased's survivor's right to privacy up to and through the funeral proceedings. Saying nothing is fine. Neutral or positive things are fine. Doing crap like the Fred Phelps does is beyond wrong and immoral. Of course the Org is not a democracy and the powers that be obviously have their own opinions on what should stand. I believe I have complied with the spirit of what I understand to be the guidelines.
As to my comments, I would say it was neutral, and I was/am sincere. He did have a lot of talent early in life, and I enjoyed his early music growing up and even now still. It is indeed sad that he turned out to be so crazy later in life. Before anyone jumps at me saying that, spare me and get off your high horse. He was crazy, he did a lot of very stupid things knowingly and earned every bit of his reputation, and I am still undecided if he actually did molest children or not. I did not want to elaborate on this, but I am doing so now in order to clarify my statements. I did like his music. I was sad to see him fall so far later in life. I do hope he is mainly remembered for the better parts of his early life rather than the worse. I think my earlier summary was a fair, even set of statements and will leave them be.
That is all.
Seamus Fermanagh
06-26-2009, 06:41
This thread is closed. Anything needing adjudication will be reviewed.
Please note, irrespective of your opinon of the deceased, it is Backroom custom to observe a "don't bash the dead" period of time. This "time out" period lasts until the departed is interred or other rites are concluded.
Should this thread re-open, and should you wish to lob vitriol on the departed, kindly wait the appropriate interval.
EDIT
I will not reopen this thread and will visciously stomp on any thread/poster addressing allegations regarding Mr. Jackson or cracking wise about him until his rites are complete. Please note, that was not a threat, but a promise.
Banquo's Ghost
07-07-2009, 19:27
I understand that Mr Jackson's funeral has now taken place. He does not seem to be likely to buried anytime soon, but I think proper observance has been given.
The thread is re-opened. I understand there is much controversial that may be discussed, so let's try to behave with some dignity.
Thank you kindly.
:bow:
Adrian II
07-07-2009, 19:31
A gold coffin, hysterical speeches, this in a city that's broke.
You gotta love it! :laugh4:
HoreTore
07-07-2009, 19:37
Ok, the first controversial point:
The media coverage, the fan reactions, the comments by "important" people. Was I the only one getting my stomach twisted by all that?
Also:
Why wasn't Jackson protected from himself? I mean, he's a pretty damn obvious case of a mentally ill man, and he was a danger to himself. Why was he allowed to have all those plastic surgeries? Why didn't anyone stop him? Why did the doctors operate on him, instead of doing the obvious, which was to send him to counseling? It should be obvious that he wanted to "fix" his appearance because of mental illness. I mean, Jackson was a handsome man back in the day. He had no need for plastic surgery, but he was mentally ill, like how an anorectic is always fat in their own eyes. Aren't doctors taught ethics? Aren't they supposed to care about the patients well-being and nothing else?
Hooahguy
07-07-2009, 19:44
Al Sharpton calls for a day of mourning and a stamp (http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-sharpton-jackson-stamp,0,2019426.story)
this man loves MJ waaaaay too much.
a day of mourning? a stamp?
Rhyfelwyr
07-07-2009, 19:58
It is sad that MJ died but things have gone to far. When I put the TV on at my dinner tonight, I check the channels and... on channel 1 its the news = boring... on 2 its MJ's funeral... on 3 its MJ's funeral... on 4 its Holyoaks = gah... on 5 its MJ's funeral.
Things are going to far.
InsaneApache
07-07-2009, 20:08
His memorial service is a mirror of his life, bizarre and gaudy. I can honestly say I've never witnessed such a crass memorial service as that one. It speaks volumns of those around him in life and in death. No dignity, none at all. I feel sorry for the kids having to witness such a travesty.
After all this media hysteria; I feel an urge to stress my indifference to the whole thing.
*yawn*
HoreTore
07-07-2009, 20:22
His memorial service is a mirror of his life, bizarre and gaudy. I can honestly say I've never witnessed such a crass memorial service as that one. It speaks volumns of those around him in life and in death. No dignity, none at all. I feel sorry for the kids having to witness such a travesty.
Luckily, none of them are his own.
tibilicus
07-07-2009, 20:49
His memorial service is a mirror of his life, bizarre and gaudy. I can honestly say I've never witnessed such a crass memorial service as that one. It speaks volumns of those around him in life and in death. No dignity, none at all. I feel sorry for the kids having to witness such a travesty.
They just made those kids give a speech, felt really forced and must of put unnecessary stress on them at a very troubling time for them.
I do not approve.
has the EPA spoken out about his burial arrangements? certainly after that much plastic surgery he´s not totally biodegradable? :smash::book:
Pannonian
07-07-2009, 21:33
I can't wait to see those doozies that Kukri spoke of.
has the EPA spoken out about his burial arrangements? certainly after that much plastic surgery he´s not totally biodegradable? :smash::book:
He's to be recycled and turned into Legos, so kids can play with him for a change. :drummer:
:embarassed: :shame:
I have spent an inordinate amount of energy avoiding MJ news. I'll wait several months before upping the click count on MJ related links and figure out what actually happened.
Hosakawa Tito
07-07-2009, 22:34
A gold coffin, hysterical speeches, this in a city that's broke.
You gotta love it! :laugh4:
Hah, you don't know the half of it. L.A. looking for donations to defray security costs. (http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/07/michael.jackson.security/index.html?eref=rss_topstories)
Let's see, an estate that's worth up to $500 million wants taxpayer donations to cover security costs for a circus of a funeral/tribute/concert that they promoted. I know where I'd be sending the bill... send in the clowns. :thumbsdown:
Meneldil
07-07-2009, 22:59
Honestly, all this media coverage turned me mad. Whenever I turn the TV on to watch the news, I get at least 10 mins of MJ. And it's been like that for the past 3 weeks.
What the hell? Is that journalism? Brainwashing people with such non-events?
Today was the crowning moment. A bunch of vulgar, unimportant, disguting people making crazy and/or stupid speech, more often than not with a pseudo religious message (funny given that the Jackson are a bunch of weirdos). While these idiots are preaching, you can listen to a few french unknown dudes who met MJ a few times and feel entitled to comment what's going on. As if we cared about no-names and their opinions.
Once again, what the hell? What kind of TV channel does invite some barely heard of guy who keeps repeating 'This is soooo touching...I'm going to cry', just because he met Michael Jackson 4 times? Is that how deep we are? It's almost as bad as the crowd of 'fans' who had been crying for weeks by now.
As a result, I feel like slapping a whole lot of people for their obvious lack of dignity and intelligence. The simple fact of seeing a picture of MJ turns me into Hulk and makes me want to throw the screen though the window.
What I detest in all of this is the insinuated imperative that we must think of him as The King of Pop and a world altering entertainer. They're trying to make him look like a deity and it's sick.
What I detest in all of this is the insinuated imperative that we must think of him as The King of Pop and a world altering entertainer. They're trying to make him look like a deity and it's sick.
This is very close to what a good friend of mine mentioned at work to me this afternoon. He was watching some of the coverage and mentioned that he couldn't stand it any more when they started getting to the point where it was all but suggested he be up for sainthood.
The man had some real damn good talent. His early music was excellent. Sadly he lead a very troubled life and ended up in some very, very bad situations. After reading and hearing things several times I remain completely undecided if he did actually molest those children. I don't remember who said it, might have been our dearest Louis the Chunky, but he did need to go out with a "bang", and that he certainly did.
Louis VI the Fat
07-08-2009, 00:43
I laughed at that, Drone. :balloon2:
Obviously, I haven't seen any of MJ's funeral services on the television today. Well beneath a man of my position and intellectual pursuits.
Instead, as you are all aware, a man like me relies on computer games sites for his celeb gossip.
After two weeks of MJ mania, all I can say is that I think his music, in retrospect, is rather cool indeed. There's no denying he was talented as an artist and entertainer. As for MJ the person, I'm so bored of it. He's not all that fascinating. Abnormal childhood, some peculiar diseases, too much 'medication', and a love for little boys gone awry. Meh.
I think HoreTore is on the mark. MJ needed more sane people around him. Too many people who fell for the Hollywood trap, who hovered around him like flies on a pile of fresh manure, indulged him. Just so his fame would reflect on them. 'Friends' and, more uncommon for a man in his position, family as well.
I know you can sit down with Springsteen and have a beer with him. And one can sit down with Keith Richards and have a shot of heroine together. Not so with MJ. 'Yo, Mike - listen buddy, wanna come over for a few beers and some pool at the local bar?' - that just didn't happen. Tragic.
Al Sharpton calls for a day of mourning and a stamp
this man loves MJ waaaaay too much.Al Sharpton is a man in constant search of a crowd, of which he then places himself at the head.
Reenk Roink
07-08-2009, 01:14
He's to be recycled and turned into Legos, so kids can play with him for a change. :drummer:
:embarassed: :shame:
I've seen this one around in places before and I gotta admit, it is the best one.
Watched parts of the memorial, I liked the Jermaine Jackson performance the best. Al Sharpton's speech was actually pretty good too, I especially liked the address to the kids.
I'll turn the coverage thing on a different tilt: thank you media for covering this story a lot, you got this guy to watch your news programs and read your articles a lot more than he would. Enjoy the ratings boost. :balloon2:
RIP MJ :bow:
I'm avoiding TV altogether. It's the only sane reaction.
I'm avoiding TV altogether. It's the only sane reaction.
Thus it was that a thousand zombies of Left 4 dead cried out in terror, before being suddenly silenced.
Apparently it is getting to the point where sites are beginning to run news coverage (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090701/ennew_afp/entertainmentusmusicjacksonmediaindustry) about the news coverage. Which, i have to say, is pretty bad.
Devastatin Dave
07-08-2009, 06:14
Looked like a bunch of Obama voters to me...
The coroner has just confirmed that MJ actually died from food poisoning....
Too many 12 year old weiners!!! Wait, did I already tell that one?:laugh4:
Devastatin Dave
07-08-2009, 06:19
His memorial service is a mirror of his life, bizarre and gaudy. I can honestly say I've never witnessed such a crass memorial service as that one. It speaks volumns of those around him in life and in death. No dignity, none at all. I feel sorry for the kids having to witness such a travesty.
You should watch more famous black people funerals. I bet when OJ dies, they'll euligize him like he was Martin Luther King. And I ain't making a joke...
Well, I was sick of the coverage on day 1 and am still sick of it now. I had the misfortune of watching some Wolf Blitzer while at the gym.... wall to wall Jackson. I must have seen the disgusting clip of them exploiting his daughter's sorrow at least five times in a half hour.
Understand, I don't mean this in an offensive way- but I just don't care that he's dead. It makes no difference to my life. Sure, it's worth noting his passing, but this obsessive coverage is nauseating. :wall:
For the last few weeks, I've fast-forwarded, changed channels, and yes, even turned off the radio/TV when the MJ segments came on. I truly hope that now with the memorial over, we can finally drop it.
I'm avoiding TV altogether. It's the only sane reaction. It's so tempting just to cancel cable. I've been getting by with heavy DVR use and a hope that we'll one day get ala carte channel subscriptions... but times like this really make me wonder if I'd be better off without any of it. :sweatdrop:
Devastatin Dave
07-08-2009, 06:36
Just read on Fox that the burial will be on hold. Might want to lock this thread down again so we can pretend we have class and give a rat's o-ring about this pervert. Now lets reflect on the wonderfull contributions this man has done for society..... and the drug companies, appearantly.... :2thumbsup:
I find it funny that 20 minutes after the story broke thriller was played in rememberance. That surely has to be the first time a person's death has been commemorated by showing them as a dancing zombie.
HoreTore
07-08-2009, 07:01
Hah, you don't know the half of it. L.A. looking for donations to defray security costs. (http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/07/michael.jackson.security/index.html?eref=rss_topstories)
Let's see, an estate that's worth up to $500 million wants taxpayer donations to cover security costs for a circus of a funeral/tribute/concert that they promoted. I know where I'd be sending the bill... send in the clowns. :thumbsdown:
You don't have a tradition for state funerals over there? He would certainly be given one if he was Norwegian....
Let's face the facts here; Michael Jackson, love him or hate him, was mentally ill. He needed help, but the people and society around him(especially the doctors) only made things worse for him.
While I have nothing against yelling at plain evil people, I draw the line at the mentally ill. They need help, not ridicule.
I would love to see some formal investigation by an ethics board on the doctors who operated him, and some political action against a system who allows such things.
EDIT: Syd Barrett, who ended up like he did because of his own actions, ie. all that acid, got help and peace. Michael Jackson, who hasn't done anything, get's ridicule, hate and degradation. Have a happy thread, people.
a completely inoffensive name
07-08-2009, 07:37
I see people here complaining about the excessive coverage Jackson's death has. Yet this thread is at the top and the Iranian Election is over 10 threads below this.
How about we conduct ourselves better then the media by not even contributing this thread anymore, lock it and provide more interesting insights and fresh perspectives in the Iranian thread instead? :shrug:
I see people here complaining about the excessive coverage Jackson's death has. Yet this thread is at the top and the Iranian Election is over 10 threads below this.
How about we conduct ourselves better then the media by not even contributing this thread anymore, lock it and provide more interesting insights and fresh perspectives in the Iranian thread instead? :shrug:
I was thinking of making the same comment, but it just seemed far too ironic that in complaining about it I would be contributing to it. :laugh4:
rory_20_uk
07-08-2009, 10:17
Michael J was obviously in need of psychological help for over 20 years. If he was poor in the UK he'd probably have at least had some couselling to help him, and possibly things would have turned out different.
Sadly he was rich in the USA.
So, he had a string of mercenary surgeons chop him up (13 ops wasn't it?)
A Dermatologist to depigment his skin (or is he the only person alive to get the disease that makes him white after he's had surgery to look white? :inquisitive:)
And a small legion of barely legal drug dealers to get him increasingly addicted to things not often used except in palliative care.
After the poor man is dead after one too many shots of IV pethidine(!) suddenly out of the woodwork we have a legion of "friends" and "family".
Apparently they didn't notice anything that was wrong over the last 20 years, and between this army of people who are so utterly distressed at his death, failed to either stop him, get him committed.
I'd not mind the rest of the activities as they are clearly a way to maximise money. It's the crocodile tears that really stick in my throat.
~:smoking:
FactionHeir
07-08-2009, 12:29
Any thoughts about Rep King's comments regarding Jackson?
I'm inclined to agree with his viewpoint actually. This Jackson thing is blown way out of proportion.
I'm with rory on this one. The vultures circling around MJ's dead body, trying to gain something from his dead, are disgusting.
It was crystal clear that the man needed help, yet none of his so called "friends" or family stuck out their neck to help him. But now that the man has died, they are all there. Bunch of hypocrites.
He made great music and I was one of the many who had a lot of fun imitating him as a kid.
He was a great artist and perfomer, but they should let him rest in peace, now.
Ja'chyra
07-08-2009, 15:13
Just read on Fox that the burial will be on hold. Might want to lock this thread down again so we can pretend we have class and give a rat's o-ring about this pervert. Now lets reflect on the wonderfull contributions this man has done for society..... and the drug companies, appearantly.... :2thumbsup:
You're always reliable DD.
I really don't care if he's dead, he meant nothing to me alive and he means nothing dead, one less tamperer is always a good thing. I'm not watching the media coverage as there's only so much hypocrasy I can take.
Major Robert Dump
07-09-2009, 02:23
this thread and the whole affair is nothing but doo-doo-feces
Devastatin Dave
07-09-2009, 03:35
I was thinking of making the same comment, but it just seemed far too ironic that in complaining about it I would be contributing to it. :laugh4:
SO true, life is hypocricy in action, learn to laugh at oneself perched upon mighty ivory towers. :2thumbsup:
Devastatin Dave
07-09-2009, 03:43
this thread and the whole affair is nothing but doo-doo-feces
I pee pee on your beard. May Bubbles the chimp have his way with your dog. May you eat from a stew made with the elephant man's bones. May a multitude of elderly one gloved white women slap you in the face. I love you MRD!!!:yes:
Major Robert Dump
07-09-2009, 23:00
No, if you loved me, then you would have shared your bed with me. That is the ultimate expression of love! I'm going to tip my 20oz pepsi in memory and catch my face on fire.
edyzmedieval
07-10-2009, 00:46
I pee pee on your beard. May Bubbles the chimp have his way with your dog. May you eat from a stew made with the elephant man's bones. May a multitude of elderly one gloved white women slap you in the face. I love you MRD!!!:yes:
May I offer you a day with Bubbles as a token of my appreciation for your comment?
Devastatin Dave
07-10-2009, 02:17
May I offer you a day with Bubbles as a token of my appreciation for your comment?
If only animals could talk, or atleast post in the Backroom. I bet Bubbles has got some stories.
Major Robert Dump
07-10-2009, 19:28
I wonder if Bubbles ever got loaded on pills and alcohol and ripped off MJs nose and ears?
edyzmedieval
07-10-2009, 22:58
I'm actually dissapointed Bubbles didn't have his own speech at the ceremonial. :no:
Divinus Arma
07-13-2009, 00:44
Can we make fun of him here yet? Or are Orgahs still grounded?
I thought this was the backroom.
One of the paramedics who worked on him told me that his last words were "Take me to Children's Hospital".
Ja'chyra
07-13-2009, 10:23
Can we make fun of him here yet? Or are Orgahs still grounded?
I thought this was the backroom.
One of the paramedics who worked on him told me that his last words were "Take me to Children's Hospital".
Lol, you might want to edit that out, I got mine taken down and a warning for my troubles :laugh4:
They were funny though
Divinus Arma
07-14-2009, 19:29
Lol, you might want to edit that out, I got mine taken down and a warning for my troubles :laugh4:
They were funny though
As a human being, I feel sorry for him and his tortured life. As a public character, I will miss him. He was an unintentional clown; a tragic jester whose every action represented the detestation of fame and the monsters it creates. I lament the loss of a source of humor.
How do you know time it is as MJ's house?
Rhyfelwyr
07-14-2009, 23:25
Googled this after seeing it on a TV show, it looks like MJ is still around... (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2009/jul/06/michael-jackson-ghost)
Wow, that is amazing!
I didn't believe ghosts existed until now.
Thank you Michael Jackson!
Hooahguy
07-15-2009, 00:07
Googled this after seeing it on a TV show, it looks like MJ is still around... (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2009/jul/06/michael-jackson-ghost)
ok thats creepy
WHO YOU GONNA CALL?
Ghostbusters!!! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4uxIo4t7xM)
Rhyfelwyr
07-15-2009, 13:16
The weirdest thing of all about this is that MJ's ghost would probably be less scary than the real guy. :skull:
Divinus Arma
07-16-2009, 03:36
The weirdest thing of all about this is that MJ's ghost would probably be less scary than the real guy. :skull:
But who would be whiter? Michael Jackson or Michael Jackson's Ghost?
Rhyfelwyr
07-16-2009, 13:00
I reckon his ghost will be of him as a black person, plastic surgery doesn't stick on ghosts does it?
edyzmedieval
07-16-2009, 14:20
http://legends-never-dy.blogspot.com/2009/07/theory-about-michael-jacksons-death.html
I somewhat believe this.
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