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Cecil XIX
07-07-2009, 01:42
That's right, friends! After an unfortunate delay, it's time once again to celebrate the ending of a glorious PBEM! This time, it's Save My LotR Elector! For those of you who don't remember the last one, here are the rules.

1. The strators to be voted on are as follows: (Big thanks to TheFlax for compiling this list)

Alesios ek Ikoniou
Aleksios ek Pigis
Aleksios Komnenos
Ammonathas Kalameteros
Anastasios Neokaisareitis
Andreas Dermokaitis
Andronikos Komnenos
Anna Kalameteros née Komnenos
Annios Solomon
Apionnas Vringas
Appollonas Komnenos
Arintheos Voutoumitis
Armatos ek Naksou
Avgoustinos Cavasilis
Efstatios Laskaris
Efstratios Monomachos
Efthymios ek Herakliou
Evmathios Komnenos
Georgios Angelos
Helarionas Anargiros (aka Sergios ek Kallipoleos Echter)
Hypatios Machonios
Iakovos ek Kallipoleos
Ioannis Erotikos
Ioannis Kantakouzinos
Ioannis Kalameteros
Ioannis Komnenos
Ioannis Komnenos II
Ioannis Komnenos III
Ioannis Tagaris
Iosif ek Artas
Isaakios Komnenos
Khristophoros Diogenis
Klimis Dokeianos
Kosmas Mavrozomis
Koulianos Vourzos
Kousinos Sophianos (aka Constance Ksanthopoulos)
Leon Symmachos
Lisas Attaleiatis
Magnentios Kalameteros
Makedonios Ksanthopoulos
Markianos Ampelas
Markos ek Sinopis
Methodios Tagaris
Michail Arianitis
Nathanail ek Korinthou
Nevoulos ek Philadelphias
Nikilaos Aristenos
Nikiphoros Manouelitis
Nikitas Moshos
Pavlos Chrysovergos
Philippos Eirinikos
Savvas ek Militou
Sophronios Komnenos
Stavros ek Amarinthou
Tarasios Sarantinos
Tiverios Indikoplefstis
Theophilos Tzimiskis
Theophylaktos Petzeas
Vakchos Tzetzis
Vartholomaios Ksiros
Vissarionas ek Lesvou
Zigavinos Vasilakios


2. Anyone can choose to save a strator by making a post that says 'I save so-and-so'. That strator is safe until the next round.

3. In order to get the less memorable characters out the way quickly, at the beginning three strators will be eliminated each round. Over the course of the contest this number will be reduced, and if time allows strators me require multiple saves from different people towards the end.

4. Anyone can save a strator for any reason, with the caveat that a person can only save a strator once in six-hour period.

5. Discussion is welcome about what pace we're going on, and what should be changed to fix that. Ideally this would be finished right around the time KotF begins, but since this took two months (!) last time, we could be in trouble!

6. Everyone is encouraged to post updated lists during the rounds, consisting soley of those strators who still need to be saved at the moment. This is especially important when we start a new page, for conviences sake.

Finally, I save Anna Komnenos. Let's hope I give her a similarly auspicious start!

GeneralHankerchief
07-07-2009, 01:48
Okay, I know he wasn't officially a Strator, but I'd still like to see how far the Patriarchial Representative gets in this. :yes:

Save Andronikos Komnenos for singlehandedly providing me with hours of work in the game's final month or so. :laugh4:

TheFlax
07-07-2009, 02:01
Save Ioannis Kalameteros, because I'm sorry Anna wasn't faithful to him. :clown:

woad&fangs
07-07-2009, 02:27
Save Andronikos Komnenos for singlehandedly providing me with hours of work in the game's final month or so. :laugh4:
I promise that my next character won't be quite so belligerent:clown:

Save Efstatios Laskaris for making the Crusade memorable.

Zim
07-07-2009, 02:55
I save Markos ek Sinopis, because I fear noone else would. ~;)

Ramses II CP
07-07-2009, 04:33
Save Armatos ek Naksou because I killed him, so I get to save him.

:egypt:

Ibn-Khaldun
07-07-2009, 06:46
Save Vartholomaios Ksiros. The only character who managed to survive this game from the beginning.

TheFlax
07-07-2009, 06:58
I think that should be:


The only active character who managed to survive this game from the beginning.

If am not mistaken, Ioannis Kalameteros, Anna Kalameteros and Apionnas Vringas were all alive at the end. I'm probably missing some. :clown:

Rowan
07-07-2009, 07:39
I save Makedonios Ksanthopoulos

Edit: ISTR Hypatos Machonios was also alive in the end.

TheFlax
07-07-2009, 08:03
Save Savvas ek Militou for being so very entertaining in the Senate. ~:cheers:

_Tristan_
07-07-2009, 08:15
Save Kosmas Mavrozomis

ULC
07-07-2009, 08:30
Save Vissarionas ek Lesvou - for being the most heretical knight of the Order of St.John :laugh4:

Ignoramus
07-07-2009, 08:49
Save Aleksios Komnenos!

Note: Perhaps we should ban people from voting for their own avatar(s).

Zim
07-07-2009, 08:57
I'll save Methodios Tagaris. He did name a city after Kosmas, after all. :clown:

woad&fangs
07-07-2009, 13:10
Save Pavlos Chrysovergos, former leader of the Komnendoukai

pevergreen
07-07-2009, 13:25
Save Apionnas Vringas, my favourite strator in the game.

I did write about him and others + Michail for a statewide test :grin2: Got an A as well :beam:

Ituralde
07-07-2009, 13:36
Seeing that list just drives home in force how difficult I found it to keep those names apart.

Anastasios Neokaisareitis for being a shortlived villain. I would have loved to see the full potential of this character.

_Tristan_
07-07-2009, 15:24
Save Iakovos ek Kallipoleos, for the amount of thinking YLC invested in this character... for good or bad...

ULC
07-07-2009, 16:15
Save Ammonathas Kalameteros, Helarionas only real ally after his marriage to Aleksandra Tagaris.

TheFlax
07-07-2009, 16:27
Save Ioannis Komnenos, without him and his controversial actions, I don't think the game would have been as fun.

Ramses II CP
07-07-2009, 16:54
Save Magnentios Kalameteros (Known as Father Bastard) because his name is one of the most unforgettable happenings in the whole of LotR.

(I do have a slightly more serious list to save, but I don't want the Bastard washing out early just because he didn't last long in the game)

:egypt:

flyd
07-07-2009, 17:00
Save Arintheos Voutoumitis, for destroying the Empire to win the Civil War.

Zim
07-07-2009, 19:21
Save Ioannis Komnenos III, long may he reign.

TheFlax
07-07-2009, 19:27
Save Kousinos Sophianos, even though Cecil never finished his story with me. :clown:

Rowan
07-07-2009, 19:31
Save Nevoulos ek Philadelphias for getting both himself and Bart in trouble for daring to communicate directly with a Strator in another house.

Zim
07-07-2009, 19:39
I actually had a conversation with another Order member that ended when I realized he could get in trouble. :clown:

woad&fangs
07-08-2009, 00:56
save Efstratios Monomachos, because ATPG can't get knocked out in the first round.

TheFlax
07-08-2009, 00:57
I'm pretty sure some non active avatar will be killed off first. Even if ATPG played a clown. :clown:

Zim
07-08-2009, 01:00
Save noone , because I still have a bit under half an hour to go.

ULC
07-08-2009, 01:09
Save noone , because I still have a bit under half an hour to go.

Nice save :wink:

Speaking of which - save Nikiphoros Manouelitis - most back stabbing, treacherous man I knew who tired to hide it under the guise of chivalry.

TheFlax
07-08-2009, 01:30
Save Markianos Ampelas for being such a model in the early game.


Alesios ek Ikoniou
Aleksios ek Pigis
Aleksios Komnenos
Ammonathas Kalameteros
Anastasios Neokaisareitis
Andreas Dermokaitis
Andronikos Komnenos
Anna Kalameteros née Komnenos
Annios Solomon
Apionnas Vringas
Appollonas Komnenos
Arintheos Voutoumitis
Armatos ek Naksou
Avgoustinos Cavasilis
Efstatios Laskaris
Efstratios Monomachos
Efthymios ek Herakliou
Evmathios Komnenos
Georgios Angelos
Helarionas Anargiros (aka Sergios ek Kallipoleos Echter)
Hypatios Machonios
Iakovos ek Kallipoleos
Ioannis Erotikos
Ioannis Kantakouzinos
Ioannis Kalameteros
Ioannis Komnenos
Ioannis Komnenos II
Ioannis Komnenos III
Ioannis Tagaris
Iosif ek Artas
Isaakios Komnenos
Khristophoros Diogenis
Klimis Dokeianos
Kosmas Mavrozomis
Koulianos Vourzos
Kousinos Sophianos (aka Constance Ksanthopoulos)
Leon Symmachos
Lisas Attaleiatis
Magnentios Kalameteros
Makedonios Ksanthopoulos
Markianos Ampelas
Markos ek Sinopis
Methodios Tagaris
Michail Arianitis
Nathanail ek Korinthou
Nevoulos ek Philadelphias
Nikilaos Aristenos
Nikiphoros Manouelitis
Nikitas Moshos
Pavlos Chrysovergos
Philippos Eirinikos
Savvas ek Militou
Sophronios Komnenos
Stavros ek Amarinthou
Tarasios Sarantinos
Tiverios Indikoplefstis
Theophilos Tzimiskis
Theophylaktos Petzeas
Vakchos Tzetzis
Vartholomaios Ksiros
Vissarionas ek Lesvou
Zigavinos Vasilakios

Zim
07-08-2009, 01:35
Save Zigavinos Vasilakios , because I like the name "Ziggy".

Ramses II CP
07-08-2009, 02:43
Save Helarionas Anargiros (aka Sergios ek Kallipoleos Echter) for an interesting storyline.

:egypt:

flyd
07-08-2009, 04:27
Save Alexios ek Ikoniou, because he was around for a long time.

Ibn-Khaldun
07-08-2009, 07:05
Save Annios Solomon. Sneaky little .. Crusader! :clown:

Rowan
07-08-2009, 07:10
Save Theophylaktos Petzeas, (the first?) victim of I-K's suicidal charge tendencies. And being the other (sane) member of the Order for a long time..

Ibn-Khaldun
07-08-2009, 07:29
I doubt Theo was sane at the beginning! All that drinking and stuff .. :laugh4:

TheFlax
07-08-2009, 07:39
Save Iosif ek Artas, my first supporter when I became emperor.

Zim
07-08-2009, 07:44
Save Hypatios Machonios , for starting one of our first controversies.

TheFlax
07-08-2009, 07:52
Save Hypatios Machonios , for starting one of our first controversies.

The extermination of Iconium... good times. :yes:

Zim
07-08-2009, 07:56
If only everyone hadn't come down against him (Kosmas included), I think we may have had more "villains" in LOTR...


The extermination of Iconium... good times. :yes:

_Tristan_
07-08-2009, 09:39
Save Ioannis Erotikos, his name is such a poem...

ULC
07-08-2009, 11:12
Save Ioannis Kantakouzinos - for playing the villain, in the Magnuara at least, and for being such a loyal man to his Lord and allies, even when they were in the wrong.

TheFlax
07-08-2009, 14:42
Save Isaakios Komnenos, may his laziness live on! :clown:

_Tristan_
07-08-2009, 15:31
Save Ioannis Tagaris, who fought for his inheritance against overwhelming odds

(ten minutes early...oops)

Rowan
07-08-2009, 19:16
Save Stavros ek Amarinthou for participating in the Crusade and getting the biggest stack (IIRC).

TheFlax
07-08-2009, 20:46
Save Michail Arianitis

woad&fangs
07-08-2009, 20:49
save Nikilaos Aristenos

TheFlax
07-09-2009, 05:43
Save Aleksios ek Pigis, a short lived firebrand.

Zim
07-09-2009, 05:47
Save Nikitas Moshos

_Tristan_
07-09-2009, 08:48
Save Efthymios ek Herakliou, for joining the Ilios Korakas House at great risk.

Rowan
07-09-2009, 10:33
Save Tiverios Indikoplefstis for having the single most difficult surname in the whole game.

Hopefully I got everyone, 15 left.


Alesios ek Ikoniou
Aleksios ek Pigis
Aleksios Komnenos
Ammonathas Kalameteros
Anastasios Neokaisareitis
Andreas Dermokaitis
Andronikos Komnenos
Anna Kalameteros née Komnenos
Annios Solomon
Apionnas Vringas
Appollonas Komnenos
Arintheos Voutoumitis
Armatos ek Naksou
Avgoustinos Cavasilis
Efstatios Laskaris
Efstratios Monomachos
Efthymios ek Herakliou
Evmathios Komnenos
Georgios Angelos
Helarionas Anargiros (aka Sergios ek Kallipoleos Echter)
Hypatios Machonios
Iakovos ek Kallipoleos
Ioannis Erotikos
Ioannis Kantakouzinos
Ioannis Kalameteros
Ioannis Komnenos
Ioannis Komnenos II
Ioannis Komnenos III
Ioannis Tagaris
Iosif ek Artas
Isaakios Komnenos
Khristophoros Diogenis
Klimis Dokeianos
Kosmas Mavrozomis
Koulianos Vourzos
Kousinos Sophianos (aka Constance Ksanthopoulos)
Leon Symmachos
Lisas Attaleiatis
Magnentios Kalameteros
Makedonios Ksanthopoulos
Markianos Ampelas
Markos ek Sinopis
Methodios Tagaris
Michail Arianitis
Nathanail ek Korinthou
Nevoulos ek Philadelphias
Nikilaos Aristenos
Nikiphoros Manouelitis
Nikitas Moshos
Pavlos Chrysovergos
Philippos Eirinikos
Savvas ek Militou
Sophronios Komnenos
Stavros ek Amarinthou
Tarasios Sarantinos
Tiverios Indikoplefstis
Theophilos Tzimiskis
Theophylaktos Petzeas
Vakchos Tzetzis
Vartholomaios Ksiros
Vissarionas ek Lesvou
Zigavinos Vasilakios

Marcus Agrippa
07-09-2009, 10:49
save Andreas Dermokaitis He's such and honourable guy.

ULC
07-09-2009, 12:03
Save Khristophoros Diogenis - for being what appeared to be a very interesting character.

Ituralde
07-09-2009, 12:40
Save Lisas Attaleiatis. We could have ruled Pontus!

TheFlax
07-09-2009, 14:46
Save Georgios Angelos for his bravery in the Battle for the Iron Bridge. :bow:

Rowan
07-09-2009, 19:31
Save Nathanail ek Korinthou, because he's the last avatar Bart interacted with.

Ramses II CP
07-09-2009, 19:38
I propose for the sake of haste that all ten remaining characters be knocked out. My memory is by no means perfect, and I don't want to offend anyone, but I can't recall anything about any of the gentlemen who are left except Vakchos, and him not because of what he did but what was done for him.

If, and only if, that isn't going to work, then I'll save Vakchos Tzetzis because I remember who he was.

:egypt:

ULC
07-09-2009, 19:41
Save Annios Solomon if he hasn't been already.

TheFlax
07-09-2009, 19:42
Save Annios Solomon if he hasn't been already.

Ibn saved him yesterday. You get another pick!

Ramses II CP
07-09-2009, 19:42
Annios is already saved. :yes:

:egypt:

TheFlax
07-09-2009, 20:47
I propose for the sake of haste that all ten remaining characters be knocked out. My memory is by no means perfect, and I don't want to offend anyone, but I can't recall anything about any of the gentlemen who are left except Vakchos, and him not because of what he did but what was done for him.

If, and only if, that isn't going to work, then I'll save Vakchos Tzetzis because I remember who he was.

:egypt:

I'll second that, all the of the characters left were relatively inactive. Up until now I've only voted for characters whom I remembered, if only for one thing they did, but now I have no clue for who to vote and have no preference whatsoever because I do not who those characters are... :no:

woad&fangs
07-09-2009, 21:23
Thirded.

Zim
07-10-2009, 01:31
I've also been avoiding voting since I don't remember anyone left...

Rowan
07-10-2009, 09:10
AOL

Meaning, I agree with the above posters, and most enthusiastically support starting the second round.

Cecil XIX
07-11-2009, 04:59
All right, we've reached the end of the first round! Per consensus, the first round sees the bottom ten eliminated! Here are the results thus far.

53. Appollonas Komnenos - He joined just as the War of the Four Basileis was getting started, and stayed neutral in the subsequent fighting.
53. Avgoustinos Cavasilis - Having declared his neutrality in shortly after marring into the royal family, Avgoustinos had little impact on LotR.
53. Evmathios Komnenos - Formerly of the Order of St. Jude, he served shortly before the civil wars began rocking the Empire.
53. Klimis Dokeianos - Founder of the House of Borg, vassal of Apionnas Vringas, he was lynched by a mob for a murder he did not commit.
53. Koulianos Vourzos - After attending the inaugral Magnaura, he died while testing a medieval SCUBA system in the Bosphorus.
53. Leon Symmachos - This man seemly appeared and disappeared with no one the wiser. (Listed as unassigned, though he did speak in the Magnaura once.
53. Philippos Eirinikos - Present at the first Magnuara, he soon withdrew from politics only to briefly reappear to defend Constantinople from Jihad.
53. Sophronios Komnenos - Son of (im)famous Basileus Ioannis Komnenos, Sophronios participated a bit in debate but eventually lost interest.
53. Tarasios Sarantinos - As Paterfamilias, he spent his time looking over his family estates under the watchful eye of his mother.
53. Theophilos Tzimiskis - A strator of no importance, this man's only contribution was to defend Constantinople against a Moorish Jihad.

Round 2 has begun! Just to keep things moving, this round will see us eliminate five Strators!

Ramses II CP
07-11-2009, 05:05
Save Armatos ek Naksou because I killed him, so I get to save him (again).

:egypt:

deguerra
07-11-2009, 05:16
Save Anna Kalameteros, unfaithful w...oman :clown:

OverKnight
07-11-2009, 05:31
Ugh, I pity whoever plays King Philip. Marrying off Anna was a major production, bound to be repeated with Constance. I should have just sent her north to the Hungarians. :laugh4:

Save Ioannis Kalameteros for having to deal with that. Also for being one of the 50 characters with that first name.

Ibn-Khaldun
07-11-2009, 06:09
Save Annios Solomon. A city was named after him - Solomeia. What a nice way to remember her.. emm .. him I mean. :clown:

ULC
07-11-2009, 07:36
Save Tiverios Indikoplefstis - because I know how to spell the name without looking it up :clown:

flyd
07-11-2009, 08:28
Save Kosmas Mavrozomis for founding the mightiest house of all.

Zim
07-11-2009, 08:34
Save Ioannis Tagaris for dealing as well as he could with a bad hand.

TheFlax
07-11-2009, 12:12
Save Makedonios Ksanthopoulos

deguerra
07-11-2009, 12:27
Save Kosmas Mavrozomis for founding the mightiest house of all.

hear, hear


Save Makedonios Ksanthopoulos

trust...:clown:

_Tristan_
07-11-2009, 13:34
Save Vissarionas ek Lesvou, a man with deep personal struggles

pevergreen
07-11-2009, 13:57
save: Efstatios Laskaris, for being my vassal (IIRC)

woad&fangs
07-11-2009, 15:37
It was Efstatios Manomachos who was your vassal actually.

On that note, save Efstatios Manomachos

pevergreen
07-11-2009, 15:51
Ooops, well I thought there was only one.

I'm sure the other Efstatios was a nice bloke. :grin2:

ULC
07-11-2009, 16:18
Save Pavlos Chrysovergos

Ramses II CP
07-11-2009, 17:04
Save Methodios Tagaris.

:egypt:

Ibn-Khaldun
07-11-2009, 18:44
Ooops, well I thought there was only one.

I'm sure the other Efstatios was a nice bloke. :grin2:

There were Efstratios(ATPG) and Efstatios(me).. :whip:

I save Markianos Ampelas. I named Markianople after him. :yes:

TheFlax
07-11-2009, 18:52
Save Ioannis Komnenos

flyd
07-11-2009, 22:43
Save Alexios Komnenos, the One Good Emperor

GeneralHankerchief
07-11-2009, 22:57
Save Andronikos Komnenos

TheFlax
07-12-2009, 02:38
Save Arintheos Voutoumatis

deguerra
07-12-2009, 03:05
Save Apionnas Vringas, for having one of my favourite coats of arms

woad&fangs
07-12-2009, 03:24
save Alesios ek Ikoniou

The Tagamata were small but they were influential.

TheFlax
07-13-2009, 02:58
Has it already been nearly 24 hours since the last "save". Wow.

Save Magnentios Kalameteros, otherwise know as "The Bastard" :clown:

Zim
07-13-2009, 05:35
Save Ioannis Komnenos III

TheFlax
07-13-2009, 06:15
List Thingy.


Alesios ek Ikoniou
Aleksios ek Pigis
Aleksios Komnenos
Ammonathas Kalameteros
Anastasios Neokaisareitis
Andreas Dermokaitis
Andronikos Komnenos
Anna Kalameteros née Komnenos
Annios Solomon
Apionnas Vringas
Arintheos Voutoumitis
Armatos ek Naksou
Efstatios Laskaris
Efstratios Monomachos
Efthymios ek Herakliou
Georgios Angelos
Helarionas Anargiros (aka Sergios ek Kallipoleos Echter)
Hypatios Machonios
Iakovos ek Kallipoleos
Ioannis Erotikos
Ioannis Kantakouzinos
Ioannis Kalameteros
Ioannis Komnenos
Ioannis Komnenos II
Ioannis Komnenos III
Ioannis Tagaris
Iosif ek Artas
Isaakios Komnenos
Khristophoros Diogenis
Kosmas Mavrozomis
Kousinos Sophianos (aka Constance Ksanthopoulos)
Lisas Attaleiatis
Magnentios Kalameteros
Makedonios Ksanthopoulos
Markianos Ampelas
Markos ek Sinopis
Methodios Tagaris
Michail Arianitis
Nathanail ek Korinthou
Nevoulos ek Philadelphias
Nikilaos Aristenos
Nikiphoros Manouelitis
Nikitas Moshos
Pavlos Chrysovergos
Savvas ek Militou
Stavros ek Amarinthou
Tiverios Indikoplefstis
Theophylaktos Petzeas
Vakchos Tzetzis
Vartholomaios Ksiros
Vissarionas ek Lesvou
Zigavinos Vasilakios

deguerra
07-13-2009, 06:33
save Ammonathas Kalameteros, for having such a handsome father

Cecil XIX
07-13-2009, 06:38
Save Vartholomaios Ksiros for living so damn long.

_Tristan_
07-13-2009, 07:28
Save Nevoulos ek Philadelphias, the least partisan of all Chancellors (and most successful)

flyd
07-13-2009, 09:55
Save Hypatios Machonios for making such a mess and setting off the Asteri decline.

Ituralde
07-13-2009, 10:17
Save Savvas ek Militou the world is a drier place now that he's gone!

Andres
07-13-2009, 11:52
Save Ioannis Erotikos.

List:





Alesios ek Ikoniou
Aleksios ek Pigis

Aleksios Komnenos
Ammonathas Kalameteros
Anastasios Neokaisareitis
Andreas Dermokaitis

Andronikos Komnenos

Anna Kalameteros née Komnenos

Annios Solomon

Apionnas Vringas

Arintheos Voutoumitis

Armatos ek Naksou

Efstatios Laskaris

Efstratios Monomachos
Efthymios ek Herakliou
Georgios Angelos
Helarionas Anargiros (aka Sergios ek Kallipoleos Echter)
Hypatios Machonios
Iakovos ek Kallipoleos
Ioannis Erotikos
Ioannis Kantakouzinos

Ioannis Kalameteros

Ioannis Komnenos
Ioannis Komnenos II

Ioannis Komnenos III

Ioannis Tagaris
Iosif ek Artas
Isaakios Komnenos
Khristophoros Diogenis

Kosmas Mavrozomis
Kousinos Sophianos (aka Constance Ksanthopoulos)
Lisas Attaleiatis

Magnentios Kalameteros

Makedonios Ksanthopoulos

Markianos Ampelas
Markos ek Sinopis

Methodios Tagaris
Michail Arianitis
Nathanail ek Korinthou
Nevoulos ek Philadelphias
Nikilaos Aristenos
Nikiphoros Manouelitis
Nikitas Moshos

Pavlos Chrysovergos
Savvas ek Militou
Stavros ek Amarinthou

Tiverios Indikoplefstis
Theophylaktos Petzeas
Vakchos Tzetzis
Vartholomaios Ksiros

Vissarionas ek Lesvou
Zigavinos Vasilakios

_Tristan_
07-13-2009, 11:56
Save Anastasios Neokaisareitis, dubbed the Butcher by myself, a great help in destroying a full rebel stack with two BGs and a HA...

Ramses II CP
07-13-2009, 15:08
Save Helarionas Anargiros.

:egypt:

ULC
07-13-2009, 15:35
Isaakios Komnenos - long live the Emperor of slothfulness :clown:

TheFlax
07-13-2009, 15:53
Save Kousinos Sophianos.

_Tristan_
07-13-2009, 20:06
Save Theophylactos Petzeas, for being one of the more likable Order members.

Zim
07-13-2009, 21:52
Save Ioannis Kantakouzinos

ULC
07-13-2009, 21:58
Save Zigavinos Vasilakios, for being the largest landholder in the Empire.

Zim
07-14-2009, 07:22
Save Markos ek Sinopis

TheFlax
07-14-2009, 07:23
Save Iosif ek Arta.

ULC
07-14-2009, 08:21
Save Nikitas Moshos, for sticking with a man whom was doomed to lose, but fought for principle.

Ituralde
07-14-2009, 11:33
Save Nikitas Moshos, for sticking with a man whom was doomed to lose, but fought for principle.

And to think I actually planned Nikitas to be a backstabbing bastard... Well sometimes you have to adapt to the circumstances! :2thumbsup:


Edit: Oh and save Lisas Attaleiatis

_Tristan_
07-14-2009, 16:45
Save Michail Arianitis, for having to bear Efstratios Monomachos, a true lunatic (ATPG)

TheFlax
07-14-2009, 17:34
Save Iakovos ek Kallipoleos

List:




Alesios ek Ikoniou
Aleksios ek Pigis
Aleksios Komnenos
Ammonathas Kalameteros
Anastasios Neokaisareitis
Andreas Dermokaitis
Andronikos Komnenos
Anna Kalameteros née Komnenos
Annios Solomon
Apionnas Vringas
Arintheos Voutoumitis
Armatos ek Naksou
Efstatios Laskaris
Efstratios Monomachos
Efthymios ek Herakliou
Georgios Angelos
Helarionas Anargiros (aka Sergios ek Kallipoleos Echter)
Hypatios Machonios
Iakovos ek Kallipoleos
Ioannis Erotikos
Ioannis Kantakouzinos
Ioannis Kalameteros
Ioannis Komnenos
Ioannis Komnenos II
Ioannis Komnenos III
Ioannis Tagaris
Iosif ek Artas
Isaakios Komnenos
Khristophoros Diogenis
Kosmas Mavrozomis
Kousinos Sophianos (aka Constance Ksanthopoulos)
Lisas Attaleiatis
Magnentios Kalameteros
Makedonios Ksanthopoulos
Markianos Ampelas
Markos ek Sinopis
Methodios Tagaris
Michail Arianitis
Nathanail ek Korinthou
Nevoulos ek Philadelphias
Nikilaos Aristenos
Nikiphoros Manouelitis
Nikitas Moshos
Pavlos Chrysovergos
Savvas ek Militou
Stavros ek Amarinthou
Tiverios Indikoplefstis
Theophylaktos Petzeas
Vakchos Tzetzis
Vartholomaios Ksiros
Vissarionas ek Lesvou
Zigavinos Vasilakios

GeneralHankerchief
07-14-2009, 18:33
Save Georgios Angelos, who was left behind at the Iron Bridge.

I think that makes five.

Ramses II CP
07-14-2009, 18:38
No, we still have a few to go. Save Stavros ek Amarinthou.

:egypt:

ULC
07-14-2009, 19:45
Oi, I am so bad...save Nikolaos Aristenos...

I shall go hide in my shame...:shame:

Rowan
07-14-2009, 20:19
Save Nathanail ek Korinthou, so that we are one name closer to next round.

Ibn-Khaldun
07-14-2009, 20:23
Save Nikiphoros Manouelitis.

woad&fangs
07-14-2009, 20:35
Save Aleksios ek Pigis. That makes 5.
Alesios ek Ikoniou
Aleksios ek Pigis
Aleksios Komnenos
Ammonathas Kalameteros
Anastasios Neokaisareitis
Andreas Dermokaitis
Andronikos Komnenos
Anna Kalameteros née Komnenos
Annios Solomon
Apionnas Vringas
Arintheos Voutoumitis
Armatos ek Naksou
Efstatios Laskaris
Efstratios Monomachos
Efthymios ek Herakliou
Georgios Angelos
Helarionas Anargiros (aka Sergios ek Kallipoleos Echter)
Hypatios Machonios
Iakovos ek Kallipoleos
Ioannis Erotikos
Ioannis Kantakouzinos
Ioannis Kalameteros
Ioannis Komnenos
Ioannis Komnenos II
Ioannis Komnenos III
Ioannis Tagaris
Iosif ek Artas
Isaakios Komnenos
Khristophoros Diogenis
Kosmas Mavrozomis
Kousinos Sophianos (aka Constance Ksanthopoulos)
Lisas Attaleiatis
Magnentios Kalameteros
Makedonios Ksanthopoulos
Markianos Ampelas
Markos ek Sinopis
Methodios Tagaris
Michail Arianitis
Nathanail ek Korinthou
Nevoulos ek Philadelphias
Nikilaos Aristenos
Nikiphoros Manouelitis
Nikitas Moshos
Pavlos Chrysovergos
Savvas ek Militou
Stavros ek Amarinthou
Tiverios Indikoplefstis
Theophylaktos Petzeas
Vakchos Tzetzis
Vartholomaios Ksiros
Vissarionas ek Lesvou
Zigavinos Vasilakios

Cecil XIX
07-16-2009, 21:23
All right, we've reached the end of another round! Here are the electors to be saved in Round 3, and once again the last five are eliminated!


Alesios ek Ikoniou
Aleksios ek Pigis
Aleksios Komnenos
Ammonathas Kalameteros
Anastasios Neokaisareitis
Andronikos Komnenos
Anna Kalameteros née Komnenos
Annios Solomon
Apionnas Vringas
Arintheos Voutoumitis
Armatos ek Naksou
Efstatios Laskaris
Efstratios Monomachos
Georgios Angelos
Helarionas Anargiros (aka Sergios ek Kallipoleos Echter)
Hypatios Machonios
Iakovos ek Kallipoleos
Ioannis Erotikos
Ioannis Kantakouzinos
Ioannis Kalameteros
Ioannis Komnenos
Ioannis Komnenos III
Ioannis Tagaris
Iosif ek Artas
Isaakios Komnenos
Kosmas Mavrozomis
Kousinos Sophianos (aka Constance Ksanthopoulos)
Lisas Attaleiatis
Magnentios Kalameteros
Makedonios Ksanthopoulos
Markianos Ampelas
Markos ek Sinopis
Methodios Tagaris
Michail Arianitis
Nathanail ek Korinthou
Nevoulos ek Philadelphias
Nikilaos Aristenos
Nikiphoros Manouelitis
Nikitas Moshos
Pavlos Chrysovergos
Savvas ek Militou
Stavros ek Amarinthou
Tiverios Indikoplefstis
Theophylaktos Petzeas
Vartholomaios Ksiros
Vissarionas ek Lesvou
Zigavinos Vasilakios


I'm got to catch a train, so I'm afraid I don't have time to write summaries for those who tied for 48th. I'll work on them when I get back, and post them with those who place 43rd.

48. Andreas Dermokaitis -
48. Efthymios ek Herakliou -
48. Ioannis Komnenos II -
48. Khristophoros Diogenis -
48. Vakchos Tzetzis -
53. Appollonas Komnenos - He joined just as the War of the Four Basileis was getting started, and stayed neutral in the subsequent fighting.
53. Avgoustinos Cavasilis - Having declared his neutrality in shortly after marring into the royal family, Avgoustinos had little impact on LotR.
53. Evmathios Komnenos - Formerly of the Order of St. Jude, he served shortly before the civil wars began rocking the Empire.
53. Klimis Dokeianos - Founder of the House of Borg, vassal of Apionnas Vringas, he was lynched by a mob for a murder he did not commit.
53. Koulianos Vourzos - After attending the inaugral Magnaura, he died while testing a medieval SCUBA system in the Bosphorus.
53. Leon Symmachos - This man seemly appeared and disappeared with no one the wiser. (Listed as unassigned, though he did speak in the Magnaura once.
53. Philippos Eirinikos - Present at the first Magnuara, he soon withdrew from politics only to briefly reappear to defend Constantinople from Jihad.
53. Sophronios Komnenos - Son of (im)famous Basileus Ioannis Komnenos, Sophronios participated a bit in debate but eventually lost interest.
53. Tarasios Sarantinos - As Paterfamilias, he spent his time looking over his family estates under the watchful eye of his mother.
53. Theophilos Tzimiskis - A strator of no importance, this man's only contribution was to defend Constantinople against a Moorish Jihad.

Ituralde
07-16-2009, 21:38
Save Makedonios Ksanthopoulos!

A worthy foe or partner or whatever the relation was between him and Pavlos...

woad&fangs
07-16-2009, 21:44
Save Pavlos Chrysovergos for giving all his land to Andronikos:beam:

_Tristan_
07-16-2009, 21:47
Save Aleksios Komnenos, for unleashing the dog of war that would became his heir biggest ennemy...

TheFlax
07-16-2009, 21:50
Save Ioannis Kalameteros.

Ramses II CP
07-16-2009, 22:08
Save Armatos ek Naksou.

:egypt:

ULC
07-16-2009, 22:44
Save Magnentios Kalameteros


Alesios ek Ikoniou
Aleksios ek Pigis
Aleksios Komnenos
Ammonathas Kalameteros
Anastasios Neokaisareitis
Andronikos Komnenos
Anna Kalameteros née Komnenos
Annios Solomon
Apionnas Vringas
Arintheos Voutoumitis
Armatos ek Naksou
Efstatios Laskaris
Efstratios Monomachos
Georgios Angelos
Helarionas Anargiros (aka Sergios ek Kallipoleos Echter)
Hypatios Machonios
Iakovos ek Kallipoleos
Ioannis Erotikos
Ioannis Kantakouzinos
Ioannis Kalameteros
Ioannis Komnenos
Ioannis Komnenos III
Ioannis Tagaris
Iosif ek Artas
Isaakios Komnenos
Kosmas Mavrozomis
Kousinos Sophianos (aka Constance Ksanthopoulos)
Lisas Attaleiatis
Magnentios Kalameteros
Makedonios Ksanthopoulos
Markianos Ampelas
Markos ek Sinopis
Methodios Tagaris
Michail Arianitis
Nathanail ek Korinthou
Nevoulos ek Philadelphias
Nikilaos Aristenos
Nikiphoros Manouelitis
Nikitas Moshos
Pavlos Chrysovergos
Savvas ek Militou
Stavros ek Amarinthou
Tiverios Indikoplefstis
Theophylaktos Petzeas
Vartholomaios Ksiros
Vissarionas ek Lesvou
Zigavinos Vasilakios

deguerra
07-17-2009, 01:00
save Anna Kalameteros née Komnenos

Zim
07-17-2009, 01:41
Save Hypatios Machonios

GeneralHankerchief
07-17-2009, 01:46
Save Andronikos Komnenos.

flyd
07-17-2009, 05:20
Save Kosmas Mavrozomis

TheFlax
07-17-2009, 06:13
Save Ioannis Komnenos.

_Tristan_
07-17-2009, 07:20
Save Esftratios Monomachos, for being such a strange person..

ULC
07-17-2009, 07:29
Save Vissarionas ek Lesvou :bow:

Andres
07-17-2009, 08:05
Save Methodios Tagaris :bow:

woad&fangs
07-17-2009, 12:47
save Ioannis Tagaris

Zim
07-17-2009, 12:51
Save Ioannis Komnenos III

Rowan
07-17-2009, 12:54
Save Apionnas Vringas

Ramses II CP
07-17-2009, 14:24
Save Vartholomaios Ksiros.

:egypt:

Ibn-Khaldun
07-17-2009, 14:28
Save Markianos Ampelas!

woad&fangs
07-17-2009, 22:05
save Arintheos Voutoumitis

ULC
07-17-2009, 22:09
Save Anastasios Neokaisareitis

flyd
07-17-2009, 22:16
Save Savvas ek Militou

TheFlax
07-17-2009, 22:34
Save Ioannis Erotikos.

Ituralde
07-18-2009, 00:46
Save Ioannis Kontakouzinos

TheFlax
07-21-2009, 05:40
In all the excitement of starting KotF, this seems to have been forgotten.

Save: Kousinos Sophianos

Ituralde
07-21-2009, 20:57
True!

Save Nevoulos ek Philadelphias.

Andres
07-21-2009, 21:24
Save Aleksios ek Ikoniou!

woad&fangs
07-21-2009, 21:35
save Efstatios Laskaris

Ibn-Khaldun
07-21-2009, 21:37
Finally!:laugh4:

TheFlax
07-21-2009, 22:01
Save Iakovos ek Kallipoleos

flyd
07-21-2009, 23:46
Save Theophylaktos Petzeas, the ship thief.

TheFlax
07-22-2009, 05:36
Save: Isaakios Komnenos

TheFlax
07-22-2009, 15:54
Save Ammonathas Kalameteros

ULC
07-23-2009, 01:12
Save Tiverios Indikoplefstis

Those yet to be saved

2. Aleksios ek Pigis
8. Annios Solomon
14. Georgios Angelos
15. Helarionas Anargiros (aka Sergios ek Kallipoleos Echter)
24. Iosif ek Artas
28. Lisas Attaleiatis
32. Markos ek Sinopis
34. Michail Arianitis
35. Nathanail ek Korinthou
37. Nikilaos Aristenos
38. Nikiphoros Manouelitis
39. Nikitas Moshos
42. Stavros ek Amarinthos
47. Zigavinos Vasilakios

woad&fangs
07-23-2009, 01:36
save Zigavinos Vasilakios

GeneralHankerchief
07-23-2009, 01:47
Save Georgios Angelos.

TheFlax
07-23-2009, 03:26
Save Iosif ek Artas

Ramses II CP
07-23-2009, 04:52
Save Helarionas Anargiros. Thought I did that already.

:egypt:

KnightnDay
07-23-2009, 05:22
Save Markos ek Sinopis

Zim
07-23-2009, 05:27
Save Aleksios ek Pigis

Ibn-Khaldun
07-23-2009, 08:02
Save Annios Solomon!

ULC
07-23-2009, 09:21
Save Nikitas Mochos

Ramses II CP
07-23-2009, 14:58
Save Stavros ek Amarinthos.

:egypt:

TheFlax
07-23-2009, 17:37
I guess that ends this round.


28. Lisas Attaleiatis
34. Michail Arianitis
35. Nathanail ek Korinthou
37. Nikilaos Aristenos
38. Nikiphoros Manouelitis

Andres
07-28-2009, 12:51
*Bump*

Save Makedonios Ksanthopoulos for his 30 year pneumonia!




Alesios ek Ikoniou
Aleksios ek Pigis
Aleksios Komnenos
Ammonathas Kalameteros
Anastasios Neokaisareitis
Andronikos Komnenos
Anna Kalameteros née Komnenos
Annios Solomon
Apionnas Vringas
Arintheos Voutoumitis
Armatos ek Naksou
Efstatios Laskaris
Efstratios Monomachos
Georgios Angelos
Helarionas Anargiros (aka Sergios ek Kallipoleos Echter)
Hypatios Machonios
Iakovos ek Kallipoleos
Ioannis Erotikos
Ioannis Kantakouzinos
Ioannis Kalameteros
Ioannis Komnenos
Ioannis Komnenos III
Ioannis Tagaris
Iosif ek Artas
Isaakios Komnenos
Kosmas Mavrozomis
Kousinos Sophianos (aka Constance Ksanthopoulos)
Magnentios Kalameteros
Makedonios Ksanthopoulos
Markianos Ampelas
Markos ek Sinopis
Methodios Tagaris
Nevoulos ek Philadelphias
Nikitas Moshos
Pavlos Chrysovergos
Savvas ek Militou
Stavros ek Amarinthou
Tiverios Indikoplefstis
Theophylaktos Petzeas
Vartholomaios Ksiros
Vissarionas ek Lesvou
Zigavinos Vasilakios

_Tristan_
07-28-2009, 13:16
Save Kosmas Mavrozomis, for dying for the cross... in the most gruesome way (according to me...)

ULC
07-28-2009, 14:35
Save Aleksios Komnenos

Andres
07-28-2009, 16:03
Edit: I'm too fast :shame:

_Tristan_
07-28-2009, 16:08
Andres : too early...

flyd
07-28-2009, 16:31
Save Ioannis Kalameteros for leading the great house through its decline.

Ituralde
07-28-2009, 16:40
Save Markianos Ampelas the first (I hope) elected Megas Logothetes!

Ramses II CP
07-28-2009, 17:27
Save Armatos ek Naksou.

:egypt:

woad&fangs
07-28-2009, 18:33
Save Ioannis Komnenos

Rowan
07-28-2009, 19:06
Save Apionnas Vringas

GeneralHankerchief
07-28-2009, 20:39
Save Andronikos Komnenos

flyd
07-28-2009, 22:48
Save Methodios Tagaris, the enemy.

TheFlax
07-28-2009, 23:44
Save: Ioannis Komnenos

_Tristan_
07-29-2009, 09:48
Save Arintheos Voutoumitis, the big spender...

deguerra
07-29-2009, 10:09
save the wife

Rowan
07-29-2009, 10:16
Save Nikitas Moshos

_Tristan_
07-29-2009, 11:13
save the wife

:laugh4:

Ibn-Khaldun
07-29-2009, 12:26
Save Vissarionas ek Lesvou. :egypt:

Andres
07-29-2009, 15:47
Save Pavlos Chrysovergos.

_Tristan_
07-29-2009, 16:51
Save Vartholomaios Ksiros

TheFlax
07-29-2009, 17:10
Save Ioannis Komnenos III

Rowan
07-31-2009, 19:49
Bump.

Save Theophylaktos Petzeas

This is getting hard.

The List


Alesios ek Ikoniou
Aleksios ek Pigis
Aleksios Komnenos
Ammonathas Kalameteros
Anastasios Neokaisareitis
Andronikos Komnenos
Anna Kalameteros née Komnenos
Annios Solomon
Apionnas Vringas
Arintheos Voutoumitis
Armatos ek Naksou
Efstatios Laskaris
Efstratios Monomachos
Georgios Angelos
Helarionas Anargiros (aka Sergios ek Kallipoleos Echter)
Hypatios Machonios
Iakovos ek Kallipoleos
Ioannis Erotikos
Ioannis Kantakouzinos
Ioannis Kalameteros
Ioannis Komnenos (twice? once by woad&fangs and again by TheFlax)
Ioannis Komnenos III
Ioannis Tagaris
Iosif ek Artas
Isaakios Komnenos
Kosmas Mavrozomis
Kousinos Sophianos (aka Constance Ksanthopoulos)
Magnentios Kalameteros
Makedonios Ksanthopoulos
Markianos Ampelas
Markos ek Sinopis
Methodios Tagaris
Nevoulos ek Philadelphias
Nikitas Moshos
Pavlos Chrysovergos
Savvas ek Militou
Stavros ek Amarinthou
Tiverios Indikoplefstis
Theophylaktos Petzeas
Vartholomaios Ksiros
Vissarionas ek Lesvou
Zigavinos Vasilakios

flyd
07-31-2009, 20:29
Save Nevoulos ek Philadelphias for heroically dying for his country.

Ibn-Khaldun
07-31-2009, 20:51
Save Ioannis Tagaris. The True Basileus! :smash:

Ramses II CP
08-01-2009, 05:53
Save Helarionas Anargiros.

:egypt:

TheFlax
08-01-2009, 06:52
Save Ioannis Erotikos

flyd
08-01-2009, 07:18
Save Efstatios Laskaris for naming a city after me.

Ibn-Khaldun
08-01-2009, 07:28
Save Savvas ek Militou. :medievalcheers:

Ramses II CP
08-02-2009, 00:09
Save Magnentios Kalameteros (The Bastard).

:egypt:

ULC
08-02-2009, 00:38
Save Ammonathas Kalameteros

Ibn-Khaldun
08-02-2009, 08:01
Save Kousinos Sophianos (aka Constance Ksanthopoulos)

Rowan
08-02-2009, 10:18
Save Iosif ek Artas

Ramses II CP
08-02-2009, 15:40
Save Stavros ek Amarinthou.

:egypt:

Rowan
08-02-2009, 21:44
Save Iakovos ek Kallipoleos

_Tristan_
08-03-2009, 08:26
Save Anastasios Neokaisairetis, a true villain

Ituralde
08-03-2009, 10:37
Save Anna Komnenos

Rowan
08-03-2009, 10:51
Save Alesios ek Ikoniou


Alesios ek Ikoniou
Aleksios ek Pigis
Aleksios Komnenos
Ammonathas Kalameteros
Anastasios Neokaisareitis
Andronikos Komnenos
Anna Kalameteros née Komnenos
Annios Solomon
Apionnas Vringas
Arintheos Voutoumitis
Armatos ek Naksou
Efstatios Laskaris
Efstratios Monomachos
Georgios Angelos
Helarionas Anargiros (aka Sergios ek Kallipoleos Echter)
Hypatios Machonios
Iakovos ek Kallipoleos
Ioannis Erotikos
Ioannis Kantakouzinos
Ioannis Kalameteros
Ioannis Komnenos (twice? once by woad&fangs and again by TheFlax)
Ioannis Komnenos III
Ioannis Tagaris
Iosif ek Artas
Isaakios Komnenos
Kosmas Mavrozomis
Kousinos Sophianos (aka Constance Ksanthopoulos)
Magnentios Kalameteros
Makedonios Ksanthopoulos
Markianos Ampelas
Markos ek Sinopis
Methodios Tagaris
Nevoulos ek Philadelphias
Nikitas Moshos
Pavlos Chrysovergos
Savvas ek Militou
Stavros ek Amarinthou
Tiverios Indikoplefstis
Theophylaktos Petzeas
Vartholomaios Ksiros
Vissarionas ek Lesvou
Zigavinos Vasilakios

woad&fangs
08-03-2009, 13:32
Save Isaakios Komnenos

_Tristan_
08-03-2009, 15:37
Save Hypatios Machonios

ULC
08-03-2009, 18:01
Save Markos ek Sinopis

Rowan
08-03-2009, 20:26
Save Efstratios Monomachos, because you just had to be there...

Ibn-Khaldun
08-31-2009, 16:54
This is tough one.. but memories from the Crusade are stronger..

Save Annios Solomon.

Here is the list:

Alesios ek Ikoniou
Aleksios ek Pigis
Aleksios Komnenos
Ammonathas Kalameteros
Anastasios Neokaisareitis
Andronikos Komnenos
Anna Kalameteros née Komnenos
Annios Solomon
Apionnas Vringas
Arintheos Voutoumitis
Armatos ek Naksou
Efstatios Laskaris
Efstratios Monomachos
Georgios Angelos
Helarionas Anargiros (aka Sergios ek Kallipoleos Echter)
Hypatios Machonios
Iakovos ek Kallipoleos
Ioannis Erotikos
Ioannis Kantakouzinos
Ioannis Kalameteros
Ioannis Komnenos (twice? once by woad&fangs and again by TheFlax)
Ioannis Komnenos III
Ioannis Tagaris
Iosif ek Artas
Isaakios Komnenos
Kosmas Mavrozomis
Kousinos Sophianos (aka Constance Ksanthopoulos)
Magnentios Kalameteros
Makedonios Ksanthopoulos
Markianos Ampelas
Markos ek Sinopis
Methodios Tagaris
Nevoulos ek Philadelphias
Nikitas Moshos
Pavlos Chrysovergos
Savvas ek Militou
Stavros ek Amarinthou
Tiverios Indikoplefstis
Theophylaktos Petzeas
Vartholomaios Ksiros
Vissarionas ek Lesvou
Zigavinos Vasilakios


Since there are 5 left then they are eliminated?

_Tristan_
08-31-2009, 17:09
Yes, they should be..