KotF Coats of Arms [Archive]

deguerra

07-08-2009, 08:17

Ahem. In keeping with econ's spirit of just popping in as if we'd never been gone, I'd like to give you all the opportunity to pester me for coats of arms again, if you would like them.

For those of you who I've played with in LotR and to a lesser extent KotR, it should all be business as usual: throw your crazy ideas my way and I shall try to make you happy :clown:

For those of you who are new, I like designing coats of arms for the various factions and/or individuals in these games. Doing so is mostly a sticking together of already existing parts of coats of arms, changing a few colours around, pretending I did a lot of work and having a reasonably large and completely disorganised thread. For an idea of how it worked (well...mostly worked) in LotR have a look at this thread: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=104139

Now to get your inspirations up, I would suggest the following links:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Heraldic_figures (and its subcategories)

and especially: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:SVG_coat_of_arms_elements

Basically, images in .SVG format are easiest to work with and edit. Other things are possible, and I'm happy for you to throw whatever you want at me, but I make no promises.

Now for our very first KotF Coat of Arms:

https://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7838/felix4.png (https://img9.imageshack.us/i/felix4.png/)https://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7838/felix4.png (https://img36.imageshack.us/i/felix4.png/)

The idea is the larger one can be used wherever, and the smaller can go in your signature. So fire away if you want.

At the risk of cluttering this up already, I've come up with some templates:

First of all, here are the historic Arms for our four Houses and the royal family. I quite like these actually, they are nice and varied.

Capetins
https://img38.imageshack.us/img38/8071/capetin.png

Burgundy
https://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1677/bourgogne.png

Brittany
https://img40.imageshack.us/img40/461/bretagne.png

Aquitaine
https://img29.imageshack.us/img29/2182/aquitaine.png

Lorraine
https://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4065/lorraine.png

I suppose the best way of combining these with something more personal would be to use them as a subshield, ie:

https://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8503/blankcapetinsub.png

As for ranks, pretty much as below (ignore the different sizes for now):

King
https://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5028/blankking.png

Heir
https://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1377/blankheir.png

Prince
https://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9685/blankprince.png

Duke
https://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5731/blankduke.png

Count
https://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8344/blankcount.png

Baron
https://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1079/blankbaron.png

Knight
https://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8459/blankknight.png

Finally, for some basic shapes, just because most of our stuff has been geometrically similar so far:

https://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5057/blankhalf.png
https://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2038/blankhalf2.png
https://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2016/blankquarter.png
https://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5134/blankdiagonal.png
https://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1998/blankstripe.png
https://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2751/blankcross.png
https://img11.imageshack.us/img11/406/blanksubshield.png

Zim

07-08-2009, 08:21

Welcome back, deguerra!

When I found out you were returning I began to feel a little of what AG has been feeling with the return of the rest of the prominent original KOTR guys, like the whole gang is back. :yes:

TheFlax

07-08-2009, 08:22

A big thank you deguerra for your wonderful work on my coat of arm!

AussieGiant

07-08-2009, 09:54

I love this!!!

Deg your the single most impact immersion practitioner we have!!

I'll ask when have a character confirmed.

econ21

07-08-2009, 10:38

Hi Deguerra, I was hoping you would appear. :bow:

I infer you will be taking an avatar? If so, please sign up:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=118939

Zim

07-08-2009, 10:43

Deguerra is thinking of taking an avatar last I heard. Hopefully we can convince him...

_Tristan_

07-08-2009, 15:52

Hey, deguerra... Nice to see you back...

We missed you in the endgame...

TinCow

07-08-2009, 16:20

Please be aware that if you are using the coats of arms in your signature, they need to conform to Org rules (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showpost.php?p=727646&postcount=1). The bit about signatures is as follows:

The rules for signature pictures are:

* 10,240 bytes max.
* no sound.
* max 500 pixels wide, max 150 pixels high.

I'm not too concerned about the file size aspect, but all images used in sigs should at a minimum be run through a web optimization program to compress them down as much as possible. Using raw .png files is not a good method. In addition, the dimensions (500x150 max) do generally need to be complied with, particularly the height. Lots of extra high signatures can make threads difficult to read.

TheFlax

07-08-2009, 17:40

Sorry about that, I've spoilered it for now, until I can get it to a size conforming with the rules. :bow:

deguerra

07-09-2009, 01:10

thanks TC, I wasn't sure what the rules were exactly anymore. I will try to cut them down manually, and prbly turn them into .GIFs. The only disadvantage of that is that I have to add the .orgs background colour manually, but at least that justifies my claim to actually doing some work :P

Thanks for the welcome back guys. Econ, I won't sign up at this stage. I dropped out of LotR in an annoying time and way for most involved because of some computer issues and because I just didn't have the energy for it anymore. I want to avoid committing myself again without being sure I'll remain motivated this time round.

deguerra

07-09-2009, 01:53

ok, I hope to have flax's coat the correct size (precisely 150 pixels high) now.

on another note, what do we think of using correct french heraldric crowns for the correct ranks (akin to what I did in KotR)

Roi:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/French_heraldic_crowns_-_King.svg

Dauphin:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/French_heraldic_crowns_-_Dauphin.svg

Prince du Sang Royal

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/French_heraldic_crowns_-_Prince_de_sang_royal.svg

Duc:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/French_heraldic_crowns_-_duc_v2.svg

Comte:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Heraldique_couronne_comte_fran%C3%A7ais.svg

Baron:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/French_heraldic_crowns_-_Baron.svg

Chevalier:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/French_heraldic_crowns_-_chevalier.svg

Cecil XIX

07-09-2009, 03:14

Oh man, I can feel this coming together.

deguerra

07-09-2009, 12:56

first post sized increased to kick off process of disorganisation

econ21

07-09-2009, 13:00

first post ...

Outstanding. :bow:

Ibn-Khaldun

07-09-2009, 22:34

Good. I will haunt you soon with my c-o-a request.. :clown:

AussieGiant

07-10-2009, 09:17

Deg

Hypothetically, if say, you were to do a shield for a Duke of Bretagne (Brittany)...

what could it look like?

deguerra

07-10-2009, 15:39

Hypothetically, it could look like this:

https://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1361/ag2.png

Arms of Brittany in the middle, ducal crown on top. Arms of the Capetins in the lower right to symbolize allegiance to the king. Celtic Dragon in the upper left to symbolize the celtic heritage (and independece) of Brittany. Waves in between for water, as Brittany is surrounded by ocean. Just me playing around a bit, with little to go on :P

AussieGiant

07-10-2009, 15:41

Niiiice!

_Tristan_

07-10-2009, 15:43

or if we manage to get our Duc de Bretagne named Alain de Rohan (per names_mod) it could include the true arms of the Rohan

http://www.heraldique-europeenne.org/Regions/France/Rohan.htm

deguerra

07-10-2009, 15:48

yeah, i was thinking yesterday actually whether we wanted to get into the real Dukes and their names and arms. Its something I'll leave up to the players. Apart from anything else, unless i am mistaken, Brittany was quite independant of the French Crown at the date we start playing.

edit: additionally, real life arms tended to be far more simple than the ones I end up making. In a way, I find that makes them more asthetically pleasing, but on the other hand, for RP and immersion purposes, players seem to like to fit a lot of symbology in.

AussieGiant

07-10-2009, 16:01

Well it seems I'm confirmed as:

Alain de Rohan, Duke of Bretagne, pending name change success of the mod.

Shield options are now requested Deg. :2thumbsup:

deguerra

07-10-2009, 16:07

well i suppose the immediate question is, do we want:

a) pretty historical: the Rohan Arms with a subshield of the Brittany Arms

b) not at all historical: something as above

c) a mishmash: i could imagine, for example, incorporating the Rohan Arms into the background behind the dragon

deguerra

07-11-2009, 05:05

for c), could be like this (removed the dragon after all, with a heavy heart, but it was getting too clustered):

https://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1083/ag3.png

AussieGiant

07-12-2009, 17:52

Hmm still a bit busy.

how about removing that river going through the middle? :balloon2:

deguerra

07-13-2009, 02:37

AG:

not sure myself actually. this is simpler, but for some reason the river seems to divide better...but I leave it to you. Also made the fleurs de lys slightly darker:

https://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6061/ag4a.png

Tristan:

not convinced about the sword-wheat/sickle/fork combo. perhaps its just a colour issue, but something doesnt look quite right yet. that said i didnt want to go too wild without some feedback:

https://img9.imageshack.us/img9/594/98674601.png

_Tristan_

07-13-2009, 07:31

AussieGiant

07-13-2009, 07:39

You're right deg

The river is much better than a straight cut line.

The dragon was good...it's so hard to choose.

deguerra

07-13-2009, 07:40

that certainly helps. still not particularly kingly to me, but they're your arms :beam:, if you're happy, i'm happy:

https://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5301/73599713.png

deguerra

07-13-2009, 07:57

You're right deg

The river is much better than a straight cut line.

The dragon was good...it's so hard to choose.

sorry, nearly missed you there.

well, we could cut out the capetin bit. reinstert the dragon at the bottom, perhaps just a fleur de lys to symbolize allegiance

AussieGiant

07-13-2009, 08:04

Yes yes, that could be the go.

_Tristan_

07-13-2009, 08:21

Deguerra, I'm open to suggestions... for more kingly arms...

I wanted my CoA to reflect the powers of the King both in times of peace (wheat ear) and in times of war (sword)...

deguerra

07-13-2009, 08:25

perhaps a sceptre rather than the wheat? wheat seems so peasanty to me :D

but in general, i feel that we need something else. will have a think.

i'm afraid my internet is a bit...dead at the moment, should hopefully be better soon, so downloading .svg files is proving difficult

_Tristan_

07-13-2009, 08:32

No bother... I'll trust you to find something right...

deguerra

07-13-2009, 09:03

AG:

https://img44.imageshack.us/img44/6213/ag5.png

?

deguerra

07-13-2009, 09:14

slight edit to ze dragon, specifically its wings:

https://img188.imageshack.us/img188/6213/ag5.png

AussieGiant

07-13-2009, 09:44

slight edit to ze dragon, specifically its wings:

https://img188.imageshack.us/img188/6213/ag5.png

Ohh!!

No king reference...hmmm...let me think a bit.

You're really good at this. :balloon2:

deguerra

07-13-2009, 10:43

there is that fleur de lys for the king, but yeah nothing beyond that. otherwise it gets way too crowded i think

Ignoramus

07-13-2009, 11:16

Off-topic: Is there a list of who's who regarding starting characters? I understand AG is Duke of Brittany and Tristan is king, but I only found that out from reading this thread - it'd be so much easier to remember if there was a list posted somewhere.

And it looks as if I'll have to be very careful with Tristan as king. :clown:

deguerra

07-13-2009, 13:45

mkay Tristan, here's an idea:

wheat replaced by sceptre, add the Oriflamme (alleged banner of Charlemagne, as you may well know http://www.crwflags.com/FOTW/FLAGS/fr_orif.html and battle flag of French Kings) in the background for some more French (well Frankish) symbolism. Waddaya think?

https://img30.imageshack.us/img30/7818/69485735.png

edit: there appears to be at least one other version of the Oriflamme, which does its name slightly more justice. None the less, I do kinda like the flowery one:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Oriflamme.png

AussieGiant

07-13-2009, 13:54

Ok deg. I'm sticking with your latest version.

The fleur de lys is subtle but there.

It's some how a bit too orange and red though. Can you help?

deguerra

07-13-2009, 13:57

well currently we've got the colours on one side reversed on the other. I can add some different colours (ie make the dragon green), but that may make it too busy. Will see how it looks.

AussieGiant

07-13-2009, 14:04

Hang on.

Radical suggestion.

Make the main back shield the white and blue Britanny shield.

Then stick a small Rohan shield with the red back ground and yellow diamonds in the upper left.

Put the Kings shield bottom right and stick the red saxon dragon in the middle.

What do you think?

deguerra

07-13-2009, 14:10

to be honest, i think it will be too many shields with not enough nice subdivisions. but i will show you how it looks, i could be wrong.

in the meantime, here's one alternate colour scheme:

https://img195.imageshack.us/img195/487/ag6.png

AussieGiant

07-13-2009, 14:19

hmm that's certainly better.

The yellow fleur de lys seems a little hazy though.

deguerra

07-13-2009, 14:27

so here's your suggestion:

personally, I think there are too many stand-alone bitsies without something to hold them together, but let me know what you think:

https://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6117/ag7.png

as for the other one, i've darkened the border of the fleur de lys:

https://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7018/ag8.png

AussieGiant

07-13-2009, 14:35

Ok mine looks crap.

you can just say that Deg :balloon2:

So last idea before I leave you alone.

Turn the dragon red and put the French kings shield (Light blue and little fleurs) on the bottom right diagonal section.

deguerra

07-13-2009, 14:59

nah its not crap, and most importantly its not about what I like.

anyway, is this what you had in mind?

https://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8403/ag9.png

AussieGiant

07-13-2009, 15:30

Yes that's what I had in mind.

But again too busy.

Ramses II CP

07-13-2009, 15:33

When you get a minute Prince Louis will no doubt need a CoA as well. I'm really not particular, something martial with perhaps some family elements drawn from the King's own.

:egypt:

deguerra

07-14-2009, 03:10

well, as the Dauphin and Duke of Aquitaine, you will need quite a bit incorporated :beam: I will dream something up

deguerra

07-14-2009, 04:01

deguerra

07-14-2009, 04:38

AG: started from scratch, more or less, to see if we could make something else work better and less cluttered. thoughts?:

https://img199.imageshack.us/img199/5059/ag10.png

Ramses II CP

07-14-2009, 04:55

ok, so its not got anything martial, but i do like the symetry of it all and the colours. aquitaine and the arms of the dauphin, with the royal arms in the middle. what do you think?

https://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1318/ramses1.png

I like it, but would it be possible to angle a sword or mace across the center shield? Louis is meant for war. :2thumbsup:

:egypt:

deguerra

07-14-2009, 04:58

Louis the Fat? :clown:

stand by

deguerra

07-14-2009, 05:07

all right, gave you two maces. figured fatty would need all the help he can get :beam:. also darkened the lions to match the other yellows:

https://img31.imageshack.us/img31/8086/ramses2.png

Ramses II CP

07-14-2009, 05:11

all right, gave you two maces. figured fatty would need all the help he can get :beam:. also darkened the lions to match the other yellows:

https://img31.imageshack.us/img31/8086/ramses2.png

Pah, he ain't fat yet! :furious3:

I actually liked the Lions the lighter shade of yellow. It helped them stand out. Other'n that, looks perfect, thanks DG!

:egypt:

deguerra

07-14-2009, 05:19

:shame: very well, here you have your wrongly yellow lions :clown:. added an unfortunately small one for your siggy:

https://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8086/ramses2.pnghttps://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3644/ramses3.png

Ramses II CP

07-14-2009, 05:31

Ignoramus

07-14-2009, 07:04

Dolphins meant for war? :clown:

deguerra

07-14-2009, 07:07

they are very scary dolphins. big too. have you ever been bitten by a dolphin? :clown:

nah dolphin for the dauphin

TheFlax

07-14-2009, 07:16

Dolphins meant for war? :clown:

It worked for Red Alert 3. :clown:

AussieGiant

07-14-2009, 07:59

Ok Deg.

I like the new one.

Can you siggy it in size so I can get installed?

Cecil XIX

07-14-2009, 08:00

From no on I'm going to picture Louis as 'the Fat Dolphin of War'. :laugh4:

Deguerra, can you give me a nice historical CoA for the Duke of Burgundy?

deguerra

07-14-2009, 08:57

AG, here you are. I'm a bit sad we couldn't keep with the slightly more varied alternative, but this is definetely much neater:

https://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9751/ag11.png

Cecil, I'll see what I can whip up. Shall I add something for Provence in as well, given your character's name?

AussieGiant

07-14-2009, 09:00

Yes, very true but clarity is needed as other nobles might incoporate this in their shields. That's why I wanted it relatively neat.

AussieGiant

07-14-2009, 09:04

test

A bit small...is there a bigger one Deg?

Cecil XIX

07-14-2009, 09:39

Cecil, I'll see what I can whip up. Shall I add something for Provence in as well, given your character's name?

Can you do both? The first for the Duchy, and the second for the Duke?

deguerra

07-14-2009, 09:47

AG: Unforunately, sig pictures are only allowed to be 150 pixels high. However, the white backgrounds suggests to me that you've currently downloaded and re-uploaded it, which is unnecessary, and seems to be making it smaller.

Simply go to your signature and add the following:

[deletethisspace IMG]https://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9751/ag11.png[/IMG]

But yeah, can't make it bigger unfortunately.

Cecil:

The traditional arms of the Duchy of Burgundy are these:

https://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1677/bourgogne.png

For your Duke, how about this. Burgundy, Capeting in lower right, Cross of Burgundy (cause its cool) in upper right and Arms of Provence in the middle:

https://img188.imageshack.us/img188/6184/cecil1n.png

AussieGiant

07-14-2009, 09:53

woops,

Deg where do I put this address exacty?

I'm getting and invalid file response.

deguerra

07-14-2009, 10:00

No worries. Just in User CP under edit signature, in the normal text space ie. next to where it currently says "Alain de Rohan" and "Duke of Bretagne".

For example, mine looks like this (with the two round brackets replaced by square:

(Center](IMG]https://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6969/deg2.png[/IMG]
In the long run, we are all dead. -John Maynard Keynes[/Center]

That means you shouldn't have to upload any files.

AussieGiant

07-14-2009, 10:07

Oh yeah!!

deguerra

07-14-2009, 10:11

:2thumbsup:

Cecil XIX

07-14-2009, 10:19

I like both of those very much, deguerra! Can you make them small, as well?

deguerra

07-14-2009, 10:27

can do:

https://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1677/bourgogne.pnghttps://img188.imageshack.us/img188/3411/cecil2.png

edit:

actually, just noticed that that yellow in the Burgundy shield is far too bright on the Duke's arms. Redone:

https://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9653/cecil1.pnghttps://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3411/cecil2.png

AussieGiant

07-14-2009, 10:39

Ok deg, Cecil made me realise I'll need a House one as well for Bretagne.

Can you please whip one up for the records?

Cecil XIX

07-14-2009, 10:52

If you want one like mine, they're already in the first post.

AussieGiant

07-14-2009, 11:19

belay that request Deg.

Cecil has informed me.

deguerra

07-14-2009, 11:32

no worries.

just in case you need it siggy sized:

https://img43.imageshack.us/img43/461/bretagne.png

deguerra

07-14-2009, 11:44

Cecil, updated my last post to you.

deguerra

07-16-2009, 12:09

Tristan: the flamy one certainly does look a bit more martial and angry. Thoughts?:

https://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4122/32502090.png

_Tristan_

07-16-2009, 12:31

Adopted

Now for a nice sig-sized one, please...

deguerra

07-16-2009, 12:39

:beam: glad you like it. im afraid imageshack is failing atm, ill have it for you later

_Tristan_

07-16-2009, 12:58

No problem

Ibn-Khaldun

07-16-2009, 14:28

I have a request.. I know my character is too young at the moment but that doesn't mean that I can't have coats of arms now..

Anyway.. This is what I would like to see:
Shield in four sections.
Upper left part - 3 lions (like on the English banner) on red background
Upper right part - 3 golden fleur-de-lils(sp?) on white background
Lower left part - 3 golden crosses on white background
Lower right part - 3 golden crowns on red background

Since I am Prince(and not heir) then his crown on top of my coa.

deguerra

07-16-2009, 15:32

imageshack appears to have forgiven me.

here you are Tristan:

https://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6809/17268293.png

ibn Khaldun, I'll whip something up tomorrow. Are we adding Capetin Arms in the centre? Your Prince is a Capetin, after all.

Ibn-Khaldun

07-16-2009, 15:39

Yes, please! :yes:

Ignoramus

07-17-2009, 03:49

Could you please knock up a Neufville Coat of arms for me please?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neufville_de_Villeroy_family

deguerra

07-17-2009, 04:00

do you want just essentially what is on that page? or any variations? you joining any duchy who's arms you want incorporated?

Ignoramus

07-17-2009, 04:15

Just how it is is fine. I'm still deciding which Duchy to join, and I think it's looks perfect as it is historically.

deguerra

07-17-2009, 04:25

cool. I do like it as it is. I've made the yellow slightly less lemony, but left it otherwise. Will show you just as soon as imageshack decides it likes me again...sorry for the wait.:wall:

deguerra

07-17-2009, 08:20

ok. imageshack and I have overcome our differences, at least temporarily.

Ibn, I liked your ideas here, I think its turned out great:

https://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8896/ibn1.png

OK, this is what I had so far:

https://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4065/lorraine.png

Ignoramus, is this to your liking:

https://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7627/iggy1.png

_Tristan_

07-17-2009, 08:22

Deg, you're doing an outstanding job once more...

AussieGiant

07-17-2009, 08:25

It's pretty god damn impressive actually!!!

Well done Deg!

Ignoramus

07-17-2009, 08:25

It's great, thanks deg!

_Tristan_

07-17-2009, 08:35

Deguerra, please could you add a sentence under Philippe's CoA saying "Nutrisco et extinguo"

OverKnight

07-17-2009, 08:42

I nourish and extinguish? Remind me not to piss off the King. :sweatdrop:

deguerra

07-17-2009, 08:42

Will do Tristan. Am going to friend's house for the moment, but will probably do it later tonight.

Thanks for all the praise guys :balloon2:

deguerra

07-17-2009, 08:43

Are you happy with that Lorraine one OK?

_Tristan_

07-17-2009, 08:44

I nourish and extinguish? Remind me not to piss off the King. :sweatdrop:

I thought it was fitting... But it should only concern the enemies of the Realm, no ? :whip:

_Tristan_

07-17-2009, 08:46

And deg, I'm in no hurry...

AussieGiant

07-17-2009, 08:55

I thought it was fitting... But it should only concern the enemies of the Realm, no ? :whip:

That's why OK's a little skittish :beam:

OverKnight

07-17-2009, 09:02

Are you happy with that Lorraine one OK?

Both the Lorraine and Champagne coat of arms look great, but to my eye they look a little busy together.

I'd prefer the Lorraine coat of arms alone, keep the coronet and have "Cruor Quod Ferrum" (Blood and Iron) as the motto if you can. I think my translation is correct, but I'd appreciate the opinion of any Latin scholars.

Thanks deguerra, the coat of arms are great for immersion and adding some character to the game. :2thumbsup:

Ituralde

07-17-2009, 09:28

You're really doing a wonderful job there, deguerra!

Could you make me this one:

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Blason_departement_Alpes-de-Haute-Provence.svg

Without the red thingy on top? That would be awesome!

Ibn-Khaldun

07-17-2009, 14:22

deguerra, that is exactly what I had in mind!!! :2thumbsup:

Could you do one in sig size too?? :yes:

deguerra

07-17-2009, 15:31

Sorry guys, its late and I'm tired so I'll continue on the morrow.

OK, you're breaking my heart ;). The Arms of Champagne are so pretty. I just love that pattern. Oh well, I'll work them into someone elses. You'll get your boring Arms tomorrow :clown:

ULC

07-17-2009, 22:06

Hey Deg, it appears I was able to nab a avatar from the House of Rethel - however, I cannot for the life of me find their Coat of Arms, and I am not sure the House of Nevers (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Blason_comte_fr_Nevers.svg/545px-Blason_comte_fr_Nevers.svg.png) one would fit.

:help:

woad&fangs

07-17-2009, 22:14

http://www.eupedia.com/france/rethel.shtml

Is that what you are looking for?

ULC

07-17-2009, 22:21

Thank you - Hmmm...the House of Nevers CoA is looking more attractive. If anyone has any suggestions for spicing up the House of Rethels Flag, that would be helpful - possibly incorporating some elements of the Lorraine and Champagne CoA's?

Now what on earth does "Registestensis" mean? Latin experts, :help:.

The Lemongate

07-18-2009, 00:11

For Eloi de Montferrat, I'll take a black lion on a white background.

I want it simple, though if you think it looks a bit naked then you might try to add three small crosses any which way you think is best.

And I'm really in no hurry. It's all fluff and I haven't even thought of a background story yet anyways.

Thanks in advance!

deguerra

07-18-2009, 02:41

All right ladysirs, step right up, step right up.

I have an iggy siggy:

https://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1017/iggy2.png

I have a kingly siggy (and arms):

https://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6657/44165242.pnghttps://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1440/94437858.png

And I have a very plain and unchampagny lorrainy arms:

https://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7628/ok1.pnghttps://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2654/ok2.png

rest to come soon.

edit:

whoops, and an ibn siggy:

https://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6503/ibn2.png

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-18-2009, 02:46

I want to ask, but I am afraid if I do then my avatar of choice will be taken...... :sweatdrop:, I already had to deal with that once, dont want it to happen again.....

deguerra

07-18-2009, 03:15

okdok, the second heat of the massed arms rally has begun.

I have on for Ituralde, made the Fleur de Lys slightly bigger and yellower:

https://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4161/ituralde1.png

One for YLC, with Rethel rakes and Champagny patterns:

https://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9137/ylc1.png

And one for Lemongate, pure and simple, as I like it:

https://img31.imageshack.us/img31/8571/lemon1.png

Let me know how you like 'em.

OverKnight

07-18-2009, 03:28

And I have a very plain and unchampagny lorrainy arms:

https://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7628/ok1.pnghttps://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2654/ok2.png

Excellent. :2thumbsup:

The Lemongate

07-18-2009, 03:29

Thanks deguerra! That will do very well for Eloi!

deguerra

07-18-2009, 03:35

actually, OK, let me change that, so the M doesn't stick out. Looks very imperfect. :beam:

Lemon, here it is in siggy:

https://img123.imageshack.us/img123/8163/lemon2.png

deguerra

07-18-2009, 03:38

OK, here we are:

https://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1521/ok1b.pnghttps://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2654/ok2.png

ULC

07-18-2009, 04:09

Wow, that was wonderful Deg, came out better then I imagined :2thumbsup:

deguerra

07-18-2009, 04:30

So glad you like it, I'm rather partial to it myself. Here it is in siggy:

https://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3690/ylc2.png

GH, what do you think of this?

https://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4453/gh1g.png

GeneralHankerchief

07-18-2009, 04:32

Ooh, quite nice. :bow:

One, please. :deal:

deguerra

07-18-2009, 04:35

no worries:

https://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9862/gh2.png

deguerra

07-18-2009, 09:42

Rowan, this ok?

https://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5184/rowan1.png

AussieGiant

07-18-2009, 10:05

Good lord. These are great Deg.

Rowan

07-18-2009, 11:10

Rowan, this ok?

https://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5184/rowan1.png

I think the forum rules don't allow me to tell you how awesome it is! :2thumbsup:

EDIT: Now I just need the signature sized version!

AussieGiant

07-18-2009, 11:22

Deg, I think we are going to have to re-do mine.

The simple effectiveness with some of these other coat of arms has me thinking again.

Sorry.

Ituralde

07-18-2009, 11:24

Hard to please that man! :laugh4:

Thanks a lot for the shield, I love it, looks perfect, I'll take five of it!

Ibn-Khaldun

07-18-2009, 11:35

Hard to please that man! :laugh4:

Exactly what I had in mind! :laugh4:

You should think about the symbols you want in your coat of arms and stick with them.

For example.. I have lion represent bravery, crosses represent piety, crowns represent princes and those fleur-de-lis' represent Capetians. In the middle there is the kings banner to represent France. And the number 3 represent 3 brothers of King Philippe.

AussieGiant

07-18-2009, 12:01

yes hard to please.:balloon2:

It's all too much.

Brittany, France, de Rohan and Saxony. There all on it and they are all relevant, but it's too much from the looks of things.

The Lemongate

07-18-2009, 16:04

I made a slight changes in lions on my CoA. I hope you don't mind deguerra :beam:

Thanks again!

TinCow

07-18-2009, 16:05

The intarwebs don't provide much information on the surname Perronne, but one website produced this coat of arms which I like the looks of even if it's totally made-up, which is likely the case:

https://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3051/peronne.jpg

Using the wolf/dogs heads (or something similar) and the black/white motif, would it be possible to do something similar, but with 5 heads instead of 3? One of the heads should be facing the opposite direction.

woad&fangs

07-18-2009, 16:35

Could I have this (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/Blason_ville_fr_Montsoult_(Val-d'Oise).svg/545px-Blason_ville_fr_Montsoult_(Val-d'Oise).svg.png)... turned into a normal shield but with the bottom right corner being a black boar or boar's head on a white background?

econ21

07-18-2009, 17:07

I have a couple of requests.

For Hermant, would it be possible to have the coat of arms of the Yvelines department of France:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yvelines

Apparently, it includes a village Jouy-Mauvoisin but most importantly it is just gorgeous, unlike the the other coats of arm I have found connected to Mauvoisin. If it is problematic to give a lowly knight the coat of a department, you could mix it up a little by adding a black line in the middle of the white lines or improvising in some other way.

On another request, I wonder if you could show me what "a cross fleury charged with a single Fleur de Lys" would look like? Perhaps blue background, gold cross and fleur de lys? I am not sure where the fleur should go - maybe upper left? I am looking for something appropriate for this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Fleur_de_Lys

thanks! :bow:

deguerra

07-18-2009, 17:42

hehe. will get to all of you guys when I come back from skiing (yes, even AG :P). Sorry for those who have to wait, but skiing is skiing :D

Andres

07-18-2009, 17:53

This is what I found for de Rochefort:

https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Blason_ancien_Rochefort.jpg

Cecil XIX

07-21-2009, 07:39

Hey deguerra, can you make a small alteration to the ducal crown in my coat of arms? Can you make the blue gemstones white?

Marcus Agrippa

07-22-2009, 17:21

Hi Deguerra,

I've found some useful stuff and I would like you to consisder having a go at making the heraldry for my character seeing as you have a talent for it if you please.
I now serve the Duchy of Bretagne and The Order of the Fleur de Lys.
These are some useful sources:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=187&stc=1&d=1248279476

Beskar

07-23-2009, 01:08

Anyone have any luck with de Gisors?

Only references so far I have found are:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Château_de_Gisors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gisors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_de_Gisors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillaume_de_Gisors

woad&fangs

07-23-2009, 01:38

A quick google gives me this. (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Blason_ville_fr_Gisors_(Eure).svg)

deguerra

07-25-2009, 02:14

mkay.

to start off very simply.

Rowan:

https://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3917/rowan2.png

Others will be executed in order of posting. :clown:

edit: whoops and Ituralde:

https://img33.imageshack.us/img33/2697/ituralde2.png

deguerra

07-25-2009, 03:00

ok. here we are:

Tincow: five heads makes it possibly a bit busy, but let me know:

https://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7619/tc1.png

woad&fangs: the boars head doesn't fit fantastically well at the moment, but again, what do you think?

https://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9415/woad1.png

econ21: very pretty. will get back to you on the fleur de lys thing:

https://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8593/econ1.png

andres: nice and simple, hope you like it:

https://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6148/andres1.png

woad&fangs

07-25-2009, 03:10

Would it be possible to narrow the red stripes so the boar's head will fit? Other then that it is excellent:2thumbsup:
edit: On second thought, could the white background be turned yellow as well?

deguerra

07-25-2009, 03:18

ok, econ first.

siggy sized:

https://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6431/econ2.png

as for the fleur de lys thing, I have two. Firstly, the exact description of the heraldry, I think, means that the fleur de lys is on the cross. that said, I'm not sure this is the best look. therefore, I've also included it in the corner, as you suggested:

https://img27.imageshack.us/img27/752/fleur1.pnghttps://img35.imageshack.us/img35/2011/fleur2.png

econ21

07-25-2009, 03:25

That's fantastic, deguerra.

The personal one is just too pretty. My character must not die (or my next character must steal his stuff!).

The fleur de lys things is great - I agree, the one with fleur de lys in the corner looks better, so I will adopt that for the Order of the Fleur de Lys. Would it be possible to make a siggie sized one? Thanks. :bow:

deguerra

07-25-2009, 03:34

ok woad first:

edit: actually, sorry. needs some more work. back in a bit

econ: cool. changed it a teensy bit, so here it is in both forms:

https://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2011/fleur2.pnghttps://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3161/fleur3.png

deguerra

07-25-2009, 03:38

here we are woad&fangs. let me know what you think:

https://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7238/woad2.png

woad&fangs

07-25-2009, 03:45

Looks good!:beam:

deguerra

07-25-2009, 05:05

great woad, here it is in siggy:

https://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9943/woad3.png

Marcus Agrippa, this is what I have so far. As of yet, nobody has really incorporated dutchy or order elements into their personal arms, so I left it simple for now:

https://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6058/marcus1.png

Beskar, this to your liking?

https://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8033/beskar1.png

deguerra

07-25-2009, 05:13

Cecil:

https://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1131/cecil3.pnghttps://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6246/cecil4.png

deguerra

07-25-2009, 05:26

Ibn-Khaldun

07-25-2009, 07:43

Someone have been busy!:dizzy2:

Nice looking ones! I especially like Marcus Agrippas one!:2thumbsup:

AussieGiant

07-25-2009, 09:12

AussieGiant :beam: The name alone sends shivers down my creative spine :clown:

Ok. We're keeping it simple. Less things, less colours. What do you think:

https://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3857/ag12o.png

ohhhhhh....ooohhhhhhh, mate,

simply excellent.

oh crap too big.

Can you siggy size it?

My word!! If I could quote a line from Top Gun right now I would. But the under 21 brigade here is not allowed to hear that level of innuendo.

deguerra

07-25-2009, 09:40

ohhhhhh....ooohhhhhhh, mate,

simply excellent.

oh crap too big.

Can you siggy size it?

My word!! If I could quote a line from Top Gun right now I would. But the under 21 brigade here is not allowed to hear that level of innuendo.

:beam: my pleasure:

https://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6592/ag13.png

AussieGiant

07-25-2009, 09:42

thanks deg.

The skills are...well, they're just too good. :beam:

Ituralde

07-25-2009, 11:04

Thanks a lot for the siggy sized one. It looks just beautiful. And all the other stuff. I think I have to kill all the other characters in the game just to grab those Coats of Arms for myself! :2thumbsup:

Marcus Agrippa

07-25-2009, 21:05

Hey Deguerra,

They're all looking good.
I had the thought of maybe icorporating a saltire due to being Scottish.
I have to say the one you've designed for me is great.
I would be honoured to use it.

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-25-2009, 21:50

Hey, I was wondering If I could get a coat of arms. I was hoping for The coat of arm's of Tarn (down below) with the Lion of Aquitaine on one side and a Axe crossed by a sword on the other. Or something to that effect.....

If you could help that would be great, thanks :2thumbsup:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Blason_dpt_fr_Tarn.svg/545px-Blason_dpt_fr_Tarn.svg.png

deguerra

07-26-2009, 02:25

Marcus: put the saltire in the slightly less obvious place, but I think it fits better there than behind the flower.

https://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3650/marcus2.png

CDF (I'm sorry, but Cultured Drizzt fan is going to take too long to spell out every time :beam:):

https://img197.imageshack.us/img197/551/culture1.png

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-26-2009, 04:22

Thanks! Its brilliant! :2thumbsup: (although could I get a sig sized version? :sweatdrop:)

also dont worry about calling me CDF, seems like a good enough acronym for me! :laugh4:

deguerra

07-26-2009, 04:34

can do:

https://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2102/culture2.png

Cultured Drizzt fan

07-26-2009, 04:40

Thank you! Its perfect! :yes:

Andres

07-26-2009, 17:59

andres: nice and simple, hope you like it:

https://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6148/andres1.png

Looks great :2thumbsup:

Thnx :bow:

Vladimir

07-27-2009, 03:52

So. How does one resize a pic to fit it into a signature?

deguerra

07-27-2009, 05:12

one doesn't, I do :beam: I usually keep the WIP versions large so people can see the details and then provide a siggy sized one when we're happy.

Andres:

https://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7082/andres2.png

and Vlad:

https://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3466/vlad1j.pnghttps://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2197/vlad2.png

deguerra

07-27-2009, 06:24

I was bored:

https://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5624/armorial2j.gif

Ibn-Khaldun

07-27-2009, 08:18

Wow.. :dizzy2:

Perhaps you could add all those to your first post and add names under those shields?

Anyway, you've done amazing job!! :2thumbsup:

Marcus Agrippa

07-27-2009, 17:42

Could you post mine in the smaller size please.

woad&fangs

07-27-2009, 17:52

Deguerra's last post contains all the shields in small size. :beam:

TinCow

07-27-2009, 18:26

ok. here we are:

Tincow: five heads makes it possibly a bit busy, but let me know:

https://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7619/tc1.png

I agree it's a bit busy. How about this: first, flatten out the chevron a little bit so that it has a bit more room above the point and below the 'wings'. Then reduce the size of all the heads (make them all the same size) and fit two below and three above, with one of the ones on top over the point. Also, I'd like the reverse head not to be central or special in any manner. Just one of the heads on the side somewhere.

Marcus Agrippa

07-27-2009, 20:51

Yeah but it's one pisture so I can't set it as my signature.
Unless you could tell me how to.

deguerra

07-28-2009, 00:01

No, Marcus is quite right, there is no way to get individual arms from that big image, it was just for show. You still need to tell me when you're satisfied with a coat of arms and then I'll post the siggy version.

https://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9756/marcus3.png

TC, im on it :2thumbsup:

deguerra

07-28-2009, 01:05

TC: that works. I'm still not 100% convinced, I think it looks a bit empty in places now, but what do you think.

https://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1907/tc2b.png

Marcus Agrippa

07-28-2009, 12:36

Sorry Deguerra I thought that was the finished design.
I have two idea I would like you to try if you would be so kind.
Could you make the saltire white cross blue background.
And please could you incorporate a Feur De Lys somewhere.
Thankyou for your work it's really top quality.

Beskar

07-28-2009, 18:33

A quick google gives me this. (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Blason_ville_fr_Gisors_(Eure).svg)

hah, perfect already.

TinCow

07-28-2009, 21:46

TC: that works. I'm still not 100% convinced, I think it looks a bit empty in places now, but what do you think.

https://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1907/tc2b.png

I love it, not too empty at all IMO. I actually prefer a simpler design to some of the split designs showing multiple heritages.

Cecil XIX

07-28-2009, 22:25

Yeah, not everyone should have a design as fancy as us Duke's. :clown:

Vladimir

07-28-2009, 22:54

Actually simpler coats belonged to more important nobles. A complex coat of arms denoted a knight of lesser status.

deguerra

07-29-2009, 03:04

will get you your siggy tonight, TC, and work on yours Marcus.

as for simpler and complicated, I think it depends entirely. Here we have Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f2/Charles_V_Escutcheon.svg/501px-Charles_V_Escutcheon.svg.png

ULC

07-29-2009, 03:17

OverKnight

07-29-2009, 03:37

It burns! Could you both spoiler it? :laugh4:

I think this is a nice visual representation of the decentralisation of the Empire, PBMs excepted.

Edit: The sad thing is: I've been playing EU 3 so I recognize most of the states represented.

2nd Edit: That's Cordoba isn't it wedged into the bottom?

deguerra

07-29-2009, 03:40

whoops. apologies. I spoiler every signature sized one and then leave that :wall:

edit: cordoba or granada. yeah same with me. I do love my eu3

deguerra

07-29-2009, 08:30

TC: its not that its simple, I like that better as well. But to me it has too many blank spaces :laugh4: No matter, so long as you like it:

https://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6676/tc3.png

deguerra

07-29-2009, 11:51

marcus, hows this:

https://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9756/marcus3.png

Marcus Agrippa

07-29-2009, 15:51

Perfect thankyou very much.
Are you a artist by any chance?
If i were to purchance a real coat of arms this would be that design.
real ones unfortunately cost uppards of £3000.

deguerra

07-29-2009, 23:37

:bow: thankyou for the praise. I am afraid I'm the furthest thing from an artist...my painting skills reached their apex when I was about 5 :laugh4:

deguerra

07-30-2009, 04:53

sorry, Marcus, will post the siggy sized when I get home tonight

Ignoramus

07-30-2009, 05:04

Perfect thankyou very much.
Are you a artist by any chance?
If i were to purchance a real coat of arms this would be that design.
real ones unfortunately cost uppards of £3000.

*hurries to buy Agrippa's coat of arms*

:clown:

deguerra

07-30-2009, 16:26

https://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1370/marcus4.png

Sorry, thats all for tonight folks. I'm tired and off to bed :shame:

deguerra

08-07-2009, 00:34

Sorry, this has taken unacceptably long NN. Problems lie with Mozilla, not Imageshack :shrug:

https://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7866/nn1.pnghttps://img362.imageshack.us/img362/3918/nn2.png

Northnovas

08-07-2009, 03:16

Excellent thanks again!

Cecil XIX

09-09-2009, 13:06

Hey deg, can you do me favor and give me a version of Burgundy's CoA where the largest dimension is 200 pixels?

Also, is it my imagination or does Raoul of all people not have a CoA?:inquisitive:

deguerra

09-10-2009, 10:07

I'll see what I can do on that burgundy arms. My coat of arms should be visible in my signature, is it not?

should be this:

https://img43.imageshack.us/img43/999/deg4.png

OverKnight

09-10-2009, 10:13

Your CoA is visible in the sig, at least to me.

deguerra

09-10-2009, 10:44

good to know. thanks OK :2thumbsup:

deguerra

09-19-2009, 02:18

a few things:

- can I interest the new baron(s) in an update of their CoAs with the barons' crown as seen in my first post? You need to differentiate yourself from the dirty masses, n'est-ce pas?

- Braden, Henri clearly needs a coat of arms!

- Cecil, sorry, getting onto that Burgundy resizing now.

edit: think this should do it Cecil:

https://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9677/bourgognesmall.png

edit2: ok, here's one more attempt to reel knightnday into the coat of arms family :P :

https://img34.imageshack.us/img34/4240/knight3d.pnghttps://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1788/knight35.png

Braden

09-19-2009, 20:50

Yes deg Prince Henri does indeed now need a CoA..still getting up to full speed on this PBE but thanks for offering.

No combat under his belt as yet, no marriage and no alligence appart from direct family so simple would be best to start with.

woad&fangs

09-21-2009, 20:51

Can I have the Count's crown added to my coat of arms?

deguerra

09-23-2009, 00:59

et voila:

https://img10.imageshack.us/img10/73/woad5.png

Braden, I'm suffering from an ideas shortage. Any symbol or somesuch you want included? Any particular background colours? All I've got so far is giving you a subshield like Ibn Khalduns (now sadly defunct) Prince's arms:

https://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8896/ibn1.png

woad&fangs

09-23-2009, 01:07

I thought that was the baron's crown? Bertin has attained the status of count.

deguerra

09-23-2009, 02:15

whoops. that should teach me to actually read next time. sorry. didn't even realize we already had counts, but makes me happy to get to use the crowns (Y):

https://img197.imageshack.us/img197/73/woad5.png

woad&fangs

09-23-2009, 04:03

Looks good:2thumbsup:

Braden

09-23-2009, 20:49

deg Try with the Aquatain lions in the centre shield and the blue/golden fler-de-lys top left and bottom right.

Not too certain about four differing fields...

another option - diagonal fields of blue background / golden fler de lys left upper diagonal half and white background / goldern crowns bottom left half with the red background / goldern lions centre?

Cultured Drizzt fan

09-23-2009, 21:20

I would also not mind getting the baron crown added to my coat of arms. thanks in advance. :yes:

Cecil XIX

09-23-2009, 23:53

Hey deg, could you do me a favor? I'd like to have larger CoAs for the Libary; bigger than what's allowed in signatures. Whenever you make a new CoA, or update an old one with a better crown or some such, could could you post a big version along with one sized for sigs?

BTW, right now I'm missing a big version of Raoul's CoA and Bertin's CoA with the Count's crown.

deguerra

09-28-2009, 01:52

OK:

bigger count:

https://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7016/woad4.png

bigger me:

https://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2862/deg3.png

cultured baron:

https://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7954/culture3.pnghttps://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7278/culture4.png

Cultured Drizzt fan

09-28-2009, 01:54

Thank you. :bow:

deguerra

09-28-2009, 02:37

Ok Braden:

Now I've taken in what you said, and then ignored it completely :clown:

https://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4633/braden1.png

Let me explain myself. I've left the subshield as that of the House of Capetin, simply because everyone with a subshield so far has had the subshield denote their "House", ie their parentage, and Henri is a Capetin.

Well and basically from that, the blue diagonal division didn't work anymore because it had blue in the centre and blue on the sides. So I changed it to red and white. I think it works well, but this is your arms so feel free to disagree. I'm happy to change it to anything you want.

Finally, the lion of Aquitaine only really makes sense if you join that Duchy (which I discourage of course. Burgundians are far more handsome and intelligent). If not, we should probably replace that with the appropriate Duchies' arms (incidentally, Burgundy's would look very nice there). Why Ibn had the three lions of England I don't remember.

Braden

09-28-2009, 08:45

deg I bow to your better aesthetic knowledge here to be honest. What you’ve done works and I’m happy with it!

Thanks

deguerra

09-28-2009, 11:02

I'm glad you like it.

Here it is in siggy size:

https://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8883/braden2.png

Vladimir

10-14-2009, 00:20

Now that Gontran is a baron should we change his coat of arms?

deguerra

10-17-2009, 00:18

Hey Vlad. Will get onto counting and baroning today sometime.

Is there anyone else who wants things done? Speak up or forever keep thy peace :clown:

deguerra

10-17-2009, 00:37

https://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3350/vlad3.pnghttps://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1611/vlad4.png

https://img200.imageshack.us/img200/7678/deg5.pnghttps://img200.imageshack.us/img200/4729/deg6.png

Vladimir

10-17-2009, 01:41

Deg, you're awesome. Thanks for helping keep this tradition alive.

deguerra

10-25-2009, 01:46

Vlad, you haven't changed your signature yet. Don't leave me hanging! :clown:

It's come to my attention that TinCows character is a Baron, so here is his updated Arms.

https://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3783/tc4.pnghttps://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5654/tc6.png

Also, I've been fearlessly putting myself in the firing line for the betterment of humanity and testing new things on me so that all may benefit. As such, and I'm sure you've noticed, I've given myself a second arms to correspond to my land holdings (Bern). If anyone wants this done, speak up.

https://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7286/berne.png

Vladimir

10-25-2009, 02:20

Odd, I thought I did. Fixed now.

Braden

10-26-2009, 16:56

deg a review of my CoA’s is in order.

Henri is now a Baron of the Duchy of Lorraine with ownership of Metz.

Fire away! I’m not sure how these additions can be added.

Cultured Drizzt fan

10-26-2009, 22:59

Well Looks like I am going to need a new coat of arms to get me in the mood for my new avatar. :yes:

The idea is along these lines.

A Blue shield with red trim, with a Fleur de Lye at each corner. In the center of the shield is a pear, below it is a horizontal sword, and above it the lion of Aquitaine. :sweatdrop: if I could just see that.

deguerra

10-26-2009, 23:57

Braden: Most sensical to me would be:

-replace the Aquitaine elements of your Arms (top left) with Lorraine ones
-have Metz as a separate shield (a la my signature)

do you want me to try that out?

Culture:

You could just see that. IMO the Fleur de Lys should perhaps go further down to fill all that blue space, but let me know.

https://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1104/culture5.png

Cultured Drizzt fan

10-26-2009, 23:59

Yeah your totally right, moving the Fleur de Lys down sounds like a good idea. :yes:

also, could you tilt the pear to the right a bit? Much obliged

deguerra

10-27-2009, 00:14

:yes:

https://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4509/culture5v2.png

Cultured Drizzt fan

10-27-2009, 00:17

hhhmmmm..... I feel like there is still a bit too much space. Let me think of just one more thing to add.

Braden

10-27-2009, 09:20

Braden: Most sensical to me would be:

-replace the Aquitaine elements of your Arms (top left) with Lorraine ones
-have Metz as a separate shield (a la my signature)

do you want me to try that out?

I'll have a look but I'm not a big fan of seperate shields so we might try a quartered shield as well.

Ferret

10-27-2009, 14:44

Can I have a white subshield with this boar on it: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Heraldic_figure_-_Boar.svg

in front of the Lorraine shield (assuming they'll have me) please.

Cultured Drizzt fan

10-27-2009, 20:12

hhhmmmm..... I feel like there is still a bit too much space. Let me think of just one more thing to add.

nevermind, it should be fine if you just move the Fleur de whats down a bit more :yes:

deguerra

10-28-2009, 01:28

I'll have a look but I'm not a big fan of seperate shields so we might try a quartered shield as well.

In that case, I'll got nuts with quarters. Have, say, your current shield (lets call it your Family shield) in 2 quarters, one for Lorraine and one for Metz?

Can I have a white subshield with this boar on it: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...ure_-_Boar.svg

in front of the Lorraine shield (assuming they'll have me) please.

Can do. Be aware that so far nobody other than Dukes have used their House shield though. So feel free to design your own if you want.

nevermind, it should be fine if you just move the Fleur de whats down a bit more

:laugh4: Good. I think its busy enough as it is

Braden

10-28-2009, 14:20

In that case, I'll got nuts with quarters. Have, say, your current shield (lets call it your Family shield) in 2 quarters, one for Lorraine and one for Metz?

You are the expert...lets go CRAZY :dizzy2: and see what you come up with.

shlin28

10-29-2009, 10:59

Hmm... I have no idea what my coat-of-arms should look like. So I'll go for something simple:

First, here is the heraldry for La Salle (http://www.ngw.nl/int/fra/s/salle.htm). The lion and the white leopard can be changed to whatever colour you think looks best :yes: Then add in a Lorraine sub-shield in the middle, and I'm happy :beam:

Thanks in advance.

deguerra

10-29-2009, 12:10

can do. sorry about the wait guys, but my uni week is fairly busy from tuesday to thursday and then i work all of friday, so i'll get onto these on the weekend. shouldn't be long then

Braden

10-29-2009, 12:47

can do. sorry about the wait guys, but my uni week is fairly busy from tuesday to thursday and then i work all of friday, so i'll get onto these on the weekend. shouldn't be long then

Think we'll live...huh? Students! :furious3:

:laugh4:

deguerra

10-31-2009, 01:44

ok, first ones done:

Culture:

https://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4509/culture5v2.pnghttps://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8923/culture6.png

Braden, this took the poor student hours, hope you like. the black and white is the Arms of Metz btw:

https://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4699/braden3.pnghttps://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9227/braden4.png

get to the other two later today

deguerra

10-31-2009, 02:12

and the other two, let me know what you think and I'll provide the signature sized ones:

also my i note that all of the Lorrainy vassals save for their Duke have felt the need to incorporate the Lorraine arms. Compensating for something? :clown:

https://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3442/ef1a.pnghttps://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9747/shlin1.png

Ferret

10-31-2009, 12:43

That'll do me nicely thank you. And it's just because we're very very loyal :clown:

shlin28

10-31-2009, 14:13

Yes... loyal...

Anyway, my one seems to look weird. Putting a sub-shield on top kinda ruins the effect I think.

Could you please change it so that it is quartered instead?

Lion on the top left, leopard bottom right, Lorraine top right, and something on the bottom left... the symbol for Lorraine again? Or something else entirely? :sweatdrop: Whatever you think is best would do.

Actually, scrap all my ideas, Deguerra can do whatever he wants with my coat of arms, I'm sure it will look brilliant - far better than any of my ideas at the very least :yes:

Braden

10-31-2009, 21:34

deguerra

11-01-2009, 02:43

That'll do me nicely thank you. And it's just because we're very very loyal

Moved the middle shield one teensy bit as it looked odd:

https://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1042/ef1d.pnghttps://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6075/ef2v.png

Actually, scrap all my ideas, Deguerra can do whatever he wants with my coat of arms, I'm sure it will look brilliant - far better than any of my ideas at the very least

If you want my opinion, I'm a simplicist. I saw the arms you sent me and loved them straight away, so I'd just go with them:

https://img42.imageshack.us/img42/9747/shlin1.pnghttps://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1251/shlin2.png

I like! but you have NO idea how tempting it was to say I hate it and the student has to do it again...I am true evil...muhahahahahah!

You've had enough time put into your arms. Don't even think of conquering any more or becoming King!
:clown: Actually, I think AussieGiant holds the record for number or redesigns by a margin of about 50 :2thumbsup: