Working Out At Home 2

[LeftEyeNine]

O' hunks of the Org,

I'm determined at working out seriously, both in order to improve my body and prevent it from turning into a fatbag and to accomplish a long-aimed goal.

I definitely am not visiting a gym. It's out of options due to the fact that my workhours fluctuate (aviation sector is for the mad) and also the shiny, exhausting, crowded and noisy nature of such places disgust me.

Therefore I'll be getting equipments fixed at home. I had opened a thread about what to do as a beginner in a Turkish forum where one eventually advised that a cage rack + adjustable fid bench + dumbell + bar + varying weight plaques would be a good start.

The problem is that this set is just too expensive whereas that cage rack alone is more than half of the whole cost.

So I'm starting to think if a work-out station like this (http://www.hepsiburada.com/voit-vt-1100-calisma-istasyonu/productDetails.aspx?categoryid=355457&productid=sporvoit1100) (half the whole cost of the set above) would suffice or not.

Please advise or watch me as I turn into Colobessus. :skull:

P.S. Please don't bring up the "benefits of working out at gym". It's a no-no from the start.

P.S.S. I'm 1.75 metres tall and should weigh no more than 70 kgs.

[LeftEyeNine]

*whistlewhistle*

BUMP !

*runs*

[Megas Methuselah]

I just lift weights every night and go jogging once or twice a week (I am increasing this frequency slowly now that it's summer).

:shrug:

[tibilicus]

Don't buy a multi gym, instead by a power rack (cage), a set of adjustable weights, a set of adjustable dumbbells and a work bench.


That's all you need to work out at home. You can squat and bench plus do a variety of other exercises with out a spotter and can effectively work every set of muscles. You could by a lat tower attachment for the power rack as well if you really wanted but it's optional.

All this will set you back about £600-£700. Not sure how much that is in your currency. That may be more than you want to spend but it's seriously worth it. A good Power rack and weight set will last you a life time plus will be more reliable than a multi gym. Remember as well £700 for equipment which will last a life time really isn't to much over the long term.

[LeftEyeNine]

The description of the status is above, mate. Yeah, that set is the perfect starter indeed however it's just too much for me.

[Hooahguy]

its good that you are working out, but you dont need the equipment as of yet. first burn the fat. run a lot, do cardiovascual exercises.
as ive pointed out before, if you build muscle with a substantial amount of fat on you, you only will appear fatter than you actually are.

[tibilicus]

The description of the status is above, mate. Yeah, that set is the perfect starter indeed however it's just too much for me.

I'm going to be honest, its either that or join a gym. I was put of at first with buying the stuff, I'm a student and have zero money but at the end of the day it was worth it. there's no "real gyms" within a 10 mile radius of me so it was the only option. I know it's a lot mate but it's really essential equipment. If you purchase a multi gym you wont have any means to do the compound lifts such as bench, deadlift and squat. These lifts are essential to any weight lifting regime.

I could recommend you a multi gym but in all honesty if you want a decent multi gym your probably going to end up spending more than you would on a good power rack + weight set.

Also where is SFTS? What's a workout thread with out him.

EDIT: Also have you looked around for any cheap second hand weight sets? You get people who buy weight sets all the time for Christmas and the like and end up not using them after a couple of weeks, you might be able to pick some up cheap second hand.

[Whacker]

Tough.

Go to a gym.

Or at the very least, hire a personal trainer that will either visit you, or you can go visit periodically.

Working out is a great thing to do and it gets you healthy, but you need to do it right. Even something simple as running can be done wrong, and end up screwing up your knees, ankles, feet, etc. Lifting weights is even more dangerous, especially alone, and even with a machine that won't let you drop a huge weight bar on your head. Performing the actions wrong will not only not do what you think it is doing, but it could be doing the WRONG thing on the WRONG muscle group, and again poor technique can seriously hurt you.

You need to figure out what it is you want to do, and then get some professional instruction on how to do it, IN PERSON. Books, pictures, and strange internet people will only get you so far, AND can also be a very bad hindrance and source of disinformation. A personal trainer at a gym or elsewhere will show you how to do things right, and also help you formulate a plan based on your physical abilities and goals.

Go to a gym.

:balloon2:

[LeftEyeNine]

EVAPORATE, Vakkerü-san !

S-sorry, I just couldn't help it.

Well, gym is a no-no. That's definite. I'm not going to a gym. HOWEVER, I had paid a personal trainer at the gym a few months ago to teach me how the exercises are executed and she was also planning to get me the necessary diet and the rest as soon as I'd be fixing my equipment at home. Yet it never happened, 'casue the bill of that equipment seemed just enormous.

I'm very well aware that "teh internets is the way to go. tons of documents" is not the truest thing. "Doing things right" is essential 'cause as far as the basic arm and chest exercises went, there were crucial points my instructor warned me about so as to isolate the muscle group focused and prevent any injuries.

We're right on the same lane about it. If I can get my equipments at home, I'll hire her knowledge again, going to gym once a week to adjust, review and proceed with my exercises. But there comes the stumbling block: I'm having a hard time acquiring what's needed to work out at home.

[Megas Methuselah]

Well, gym is a no-no. That's definite. I'm not going to a gym. HOWEVER, I had paid a personal trainer at the gym a few months ago to teach me how the exercises are executed and she was also planning to get me the necessary diet and the rest as soon as I'd be fixing my equipment at home. Yet it never happened, 'casue the bill of that equipment seemed just enormous.


She? Oh, niiiiice...

[Strike For The South]

its good that you are working out, but you dont need the equipment as of yet. first burn the fat. run a lot, do cardiovascual exercises.
as ive pointed out before, if you build muscle with a substantial amount of fat on you, you only will appear fatter than you actually are.

False. You can burn the fat while lifiting, it all depends on your caloriec defecit.

As for you LEN. I would look into some DBs and a seconhand BB. That contraption is just one big machine and machines are bad because they lock you into a fixed ROM and tend to only work a targeted muscle. You would do much better just doing clean and presses.

Im glad you are working out but machines are not they way to go. Ill look around for some BBs and DBs but you can get them for cheap.

[Hooahguy]

wait so first they tell me that doing excercises that builds muscle are bad when you still have fat, now youre telling me its good? or is it just bad concerning abdominal exercises?

[Strike For The South]

wait so first they tell me that doing excercises that builds muscle are bad when you still have fat, now youre telling me its good? or is it just bad concerning abdominal exercises?

The man you are refrencing wanted a six pack. Those can only be attained with a low bod fat%. Being "cut" has nothing to be with being "strong" and "cardio" has nothing to do with "losing weight"

[Louis VI the Fat]

Meh. Just use heavy objects lying around the house. For example, for weightlifting I use cartons of milk. Very flexible. I can fill them all the way up to one kilogram! One in each hand!

[Centurion1]

Bah all these people who say you need weights or a gym are wrong. You dont want to be cut right, just toned and not fat and weak. (if you want to be cut im sorry gotta go somewhere with weights. You need to run to work on your cardio, pushups and situps and superset with a set of pushups and a set of situps, if it starts to get too easy buy some perfect pushups (i do around 100 a day in two sets at night and morning), just keep elevating for pushups and de elevating for situps. And do pull ups they work a very large portion of your body and impress people more than lifiting alot of weight will (at least anyone who actually does them). you dont even need a pull up bar, i use a freaking branch in my yard, you wont be cut but youll be trim and fit if you do things like that.

[Strike For The South]

Bah all these people who say you need weights or a gym are wrong. You dont want to be cut right, just toned and not fat and weak. (if you want to be cut im sorry gotta go somewhere with weights. You need to run to work on your cardio, pushups and situps and superset with a set of pushups and a set of situps, if it starts to get too easy buy some perfect pushups (i do around 100 a day in two sets at night and morning), just keep elevating for pushups and de elevating for situps. And do pull ups they work a very large portion of your body and impress people more than lifiting alot of weight will (at least anyone who actually does them). you dont even need a pull up bar, i use a freaking branch in my yard, you wont be cut but youll be trim and fit if you do things like that.

Sit ups are useless and push ups are nearly as useless. Pull ups are great but eventually you will need to add weight anyway. I am mystified by your definitions of cut and toned.

[LeftEyeNine]

Well, SFTS, thanks for your contribution however "get those kthxbai" gets me nowhere.

I want this stuff to be done PROPERLY, not like some hobby, rather like an occupation. Barbells and dumbbells, ok, what then ?

Will I be able to do bench press only with these? Should I not care for the fact that I can get injured? No racks?

Simply put: Would you please take time to draw me out a DEFINED plan ?

[tibilicus]

Well, SFTS, thanks for your contribution however "get those kthxbai" gets me nowhere.

I want this stuff to be done PROPERLY, not like some hobby, rather like an occupation. Barbells and dumbbells, ok, what then ?

Will I be able to do bench press only with these? Should I not care for the fact that I can get injured? No racks?

Simply put: Would you please take time to draw me out a DEFINED plan ?

You can buy Benches with a bar (http://www.fitness-superstore.co.uk/barbell_benches/powertec_olympic_narrow_bench/9986_p.html)which will allow you to bench press, you could also then buy a cheap squat rack type thing (http://www.fitness-superstore.co.uk/multi_press_racks/powerline_squat_rack_grey/8760_p.html), the downsides to such equipment is that you have no way to really push yourself without avoiding injury. For example with a Power rack you can bench press any amount you want as if you get stuck under the barbell you can simply slip under it and out of the rack.

The equipment shown in the links is in £ (obviously) so convert that into your currency and tell me if you consider that too pricey or not.

Edit: Actually you've not mentioned how much your willing to spend in terms of money. That would be REALLY helpful.

[Centurion1]

You need a bench to do a bench press, so i wouldnt recommend doing it without a bench otherwise you will injure yourself. SFTS mentioned cleans i believe which is an excellent workout that builds up your explosive ability in sports. You only need a bar and plates for this.

SFTS i think situps are useful, you take an inclined seat and lower the back, my abs are very well built after months of doing this. With pushups you are basically doing a bench (not exactly but thats the biggest similarity), you can "add" weight by dropping a plate or two on your back.

Where i live cut means you are uh ripped (like big muscles)
Toned means you have muscles that look good but aren't necessarily indicators of strength, mostly women tone with things like high-rep low weight exercises (no offense to women)

[Strike For The South]

Well, SFTS, thanks for your contribution however "get those kthxbai" gets me nowhere.

I want this stuff to be done PROPERLY, not like some hobby, rather like an occupation. Barbells and dumbbells, ok, what then ?

Will I be able to do bench press only with these? Should I not care for the fact that I can get injured? No racks?

Simply put: Would you please take time to draw me out a DEFINED plan ?

Ok I can do that but todays kinda hectic. I'm happy you want to do this thats the biggest step! I'll try to get the plan to you ASAP.





SFTS i think situps are useful, you take an inclined seat and lower the back, my abs are very well built after months of doing this. With pushups you are basically doing a bench (not exactly but thats the biggest similarity), you can "add" weight by dropping a plate or two on your back.

Where i live cut means you are uh ripped (like big muscles)
Toned means you have muscles that look good but aren't necessarily indicators of strength, mostly women tone with things like high-rep low weight exercises (no offense to women)

Pushups work more of the shoulder and dropping a plate on your back probably wont do much. Other than trying to look hard you will probably hurt your lower back trying to stabilize the thing.


Biggest misnomer this side of the mississippi

[LeftEyeNine]

Centurion, tibilicus and GC, thanks so much for your input.


You need a bench to do a bench press, so i wouldnt recommend doing it without a bench otherwise you will injure yourself. SFTS mentioned cleans i believe which is an excellent workout that builds up your explosive ability in sports. You only need a bar and plates for this.


What is "cleans" ?

My budget can max out at 750$, fyi.

SFTS, please do. Especially the tools I need to acquire precisely.

[tibilicus]

My budget can max out at 750$, fyi.


You could purchase the types of things I listed plus a barbell/dumbell set for just about the price you've listed.

[Hosakawa Tito]

Centurion, tibilicus and GC, thanks so much for your input.



What is "cleans" ?

My budget can max out at 750$, fyi.

SFTS, please do. Especially the tools I need to acquire precisely.

Clean and jerk wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_and_jerk)

Clean and jerk youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXpAtyerivE)

[Centurion1]

750 dollars is more than enough to buy quality equipment of the sort you are interested in.

SFTS, perhaps it was a misnomer but many women do do "toning" exercises as compared to men. It was a generalization and stereotype for which i apologize. But women are more likely to do activities that result in toning than are males, such as cardiovascular and aerobic workouts. Toning is really like saying losing body fat also, when you lose body fat you will get more defined muscles of course.

Howasaka included very good links as to what cleans are. i would suggest finding someone to spot you or making sure you can do the weight you selected, for safety reasons. Oh and do it on a thick pad if inside, otherwise you will hurt the floor of your home.

And finally start eating more because if you start losing body fat and replace it with muscle you will need more calories to preserve it. One ounce of muscle takes in far more calories than an ounce of fat.

[Vladimir]

Sit ups are useless and push ups are nearly as useless. Pull ups are great but eventually you will need to add weight anyway. I am mystified by your definitions of cut and toned.

Tell it to the drill instructor.

[Beskar]

According to the BBC News, a great way is to get your partner to help you out. However, I can't seem to find the link anymore.