Anyone having difficulty spawning Gentlemen in 1.3?

[TomPaine]

Hi guys -- My Prussia campaign, back in 1.2, was swimming in gentlemen; I had 3 for every university under my rule. But in both campaigns I've tried in 1.3 -- Britain and France -- I've had real difficulty getting any more gentlemen, other than those I start the campaign with. In both campaigns, I've built several more schools, and several Royal observatories, but in no case have additional gentlemen spawned, ever. In my Britain campaign, once Newton kicked the bucket, I had a replacement gentlemen spawn, but that was it. In my current french campaign, I've got 4 universities, and only one gentleman to spread between them, and since I can't divide him into fourths ...

Anyone else have this, or is there something I should be doing?

[Hooahguy]

nope. i even have an excess of gentlemen.

[Sheogorath]

Nope. As above, I seem to have an excess of them, at least in my Russian campaign.

The only issue is that they keep spawning in SIBERIA. I don't think I've ever had a gentleman spawn in a province with a school yet.
But apparently those animist buggers in Komi have some kind of ancient wisdom thing going.

Meanwhile, Rakes are in abundance in Sweden and I can't seem to get any priests despite having 10 churches.

[TomPaine]

Just for clarification: is that in campaign you continued from an earlier patch, or started from scratch in 1.3? My problems are only in the brand-new campaigns ...

[Zarky]

Don't have real problems getting Gentlemen with GB in freshly started game.
Too bad they seem to spawn in most annoying places... Very often they spawn in one of my many islands in Americas, or I have to march them from Texas and Upper Louisiana to Boston.

[peacemaker]

I started a new swedish game, and I was having some major problems, despite many royal observatories and schools. Then, all of a sudden, in 1713ish, they just started spawning like crazy. One or two per college popped up every turn...

[FactionHeir]

In 1.2, they used to spawn from major cities only, but in 1.3 they changed it so they spawn from any city. Go figure....

In terms of spawning, your max is 12 for all agent categories. How quickly you get there is random, but if you are unhappy, just reload your autosave and go through end of turn again until you get a spawn. Usually once you get one spawn, the rest will come as a chain reaction.

[Hooahguy]

i just send my unneeded gentlemen on suicide duels. that takes care of them. at least you dont have to pay upkeep on them.

[TomPaine]

Thanks for the reassurances guys -- I'll just tough it out, and hope I get a lucky spawn, especially since Faction Heir suggests they may inaugurate an "apres moi, le deluge." By the way, Faction Heir, I really enjoyed your bugfixing work on MTW2, just thought I should get around to saying thanks after however many years, lol.

[Slaists]

Nope, no problem spawning them. They need 1) schools, 2) royal observatories. In my case, they spawn in the weirdest places (like Caribbean islands) for me... So I have to transport them back to universities. LOL.

[pevergreen]

an excess of gentlemen.

http://assets.knowyourmeme.com/i/3240/original/Gentlementlemen.jpg

[Fisherking]

Government type plays a part in how fast they spawn. The more liberal the government the quicker you get them. With other agents it is reversed or inside out.
:laugh4:

[Durallan]

hehe, I haven't had any problems with gentlemen myself, just one decided to spawn in america having to ship him across the atlantic ocean to get to my universities, not impressed! lol but thats the way things roll i spose

[Peasant Phill]

I've also had to wait for some time on certain agents. Don't worry, they'll come eventually and when they do they'll come in droves.

[Daveybaby]

No problems with scholars in my current marathas campaign, but i am have real problems getting any brahmins to appear. Think i've built a highest level religious school in almost every province i own at the moment (about 14 of them) and i've only ever had 2 brahmins. And one of those is dead.

Theyve definitely changed the agent respawn code in 1.3, because prior to that if an agent was killed a new one would spawn the very next turn. This was actually pretty annoying, because it took away any incentive to try and eliminate enemy agents. Since 1.3 i've noticed an appreciable delay between an agent's death and the appearance of a replacement, even with scholars, which i have plenty of. Assassins seem fine too, respawning after a reasonable delay.

Brahmins, however, are a real problem for some reason. I'm thinking there are maybe some bugs in the new respawn code. How rare.