View Full Version : Sam Raimi to direct WOW film -- good news?
Link (http://www.wargamer.com/news/6102/Sam-Raimi-Named-Director-of-Upcoming-Warcraft-Movie)
As someone who's never played World of Warcraft, I'm rather ambivalent myself. Still, he's probably a better choice than Jerry Bruckheimer or -- gods forbid -- Michael Bay. :sweatdrop: Will be interesting to see if this will be any good (although I still doubt it).
Hooahguy
07-22-2009, 18:33
are you kidding me???
a movie about WoW???
:wall::wall::wall:
the only games fit to be made into movies are the action/FPS genre.
on a side note, im bitterly disappointed that the book Rainbow Six wasnt made into a movie.
As someone who has played World of Warcraft I can only suspect that the live action adaptation will truly be a chimera of failure. But you just know that it'll do good opening weekend thanks to all the people who still play going to see it out of morbid curiosity. As part of my rehab i'm not allowed to be within 30 yards of anything warcraft related.. lest I trigger the disease.
Have we learned nothing from Wing Commander (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0131646/)?! :no:
List of movies based on video games from Wikipedia:
* Super Mario Bros.: Peach-Hime Kyushutsu Dai Sakusen! (July 20, 1986)
* Super Mario Bros. (May 28, 1993)
* Fatal Fury: The Motion Picture (July 16, 1994)
* Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie (August 6, 1994)
* Double Dragon (November 4, 1994)
* Street Fighter (December 23, 1994)
* Mortal Kombat (August 18, 1995)
* Mortal Kombat: Annihilation (November 21, 1997)
* Pokémon: The First Movie - Mewtwo Strikes Back (July 18, 1998)
* Wing Commander (March 12, 1999)
* Pokémon: The Movie 2000 - The Power of One (July 17, 1999)
* Pokémon 3: The Movie - Spell of the Unown (July 8, 2000)
* Shenmue: The Movie (January 20, 2001)
* Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (June 15, 2001)
* Pokémon 4Ever - Celebi, Voice of the Forest (July 7, 2001)
* Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (July 21, 2001)
* Resident Evil (March 15, 2002)
* Pokémon Heroes (July 13, 2002)
* Pokémon: Jirachi Wishmaker (July 19, 2003)
* Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life (July 25, 2003)
* House of the Dead (October 10, 2003)
* Pokémon: Destiny Deoxys (July 22, 2004)
* Resident Evil: Apocalypse (September 10, 2004)
* Alone in the Dark (January 28, 2005)
* Air (February 5, 2005)
* Pokémon: Lucario and the Mystery of Mew (July 16, 2005)
* Final Fantasy VII Advent Children (September 14, 2005)
* Doom (October 21, 2005)
* BloodRayne (January 6, 2006)
* Forbidden Siren (February 9, 2006)
* Silent Hill (April 21, 2006)
* Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea (July 15, 2006)
* Dead or Alive (September 15, 2006)
* Dōbutsu no Mori (Animal Crossing) (December 16, 2006)
* Pokémon: The Rise of Darkrai (July 14, 2007)
* Clannad (September 15, 2007)
* BloodRayne II: Deliverance (September 18, 2007)
* Resident Evil: Extinction (September 21, 2007)
* Hitman (November 21, 2007)
* In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale (January 11, 2008)
* OneChanbara (April 26, 2008)
* Postal (May 23, 2008)
* Pokémon: Giratina and the Sky Warrior (July 19, 2008)
* Far Cry (October 2, 2008)
* Max Payne (October 16, 2008)
* Resident Evil: Degeneration (December 17, 2008)
* Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li (February 27, 2009)
* Pokémon Diamond & Pearl Platinum the Movie: To the Conquering of Space-Time (July 18, 2009)
The same list, with all horrible movies removed:
...
Video game movies are always bad, period. While I will say it is theoretically possible for a good one to be produced at some point, Sam Raimi is not talented enough to pull it off. The man is hit and miss, which does not indicate enough skill to be the first to break the trend.
Come now come......Hitman was fine....OK maybe the guy didn't really have that 'Agent 47' aura but still.....
And you didn't like Lara Croft movies? You didn't like seeing Angelina Jolie running around wearing tight fitting clothes? :clown:
Edit:
What I want to really see though is a Halo movie...or maybe a good hollywood made movie on the Witcher.
Meneldil
07-22-2009, 20:06
If the Bioshock movie is a failure, I'll blow up something.
seireikhaan
07-22-2009, 20:11
Why on earth would anyone want to watch a WoW movie? :inquisitive:
And you didn't like Lara Croft movies? You didn't like seeing Angelina Jolie running around wearing tight fitting clothes? :clown:
Was dragged to the first one by a friend. It was easily the worst film I'd ever seen until Windtalkers.
Was dragged to the first one by a friend. It was easily the worst film I'd ever seen until Windtalkers.
I beg to differ. Max Payne, on the other hand, a game with a deep, although moronic sometimes, plot which should be a continual action movie, was turned into something that easily wins the worst film ever award for me. It was probably the very first movie where I couldn't wait for the movie to end. Experiencing something like that wasn't my favourite thing.
About the movie per se, I am absolutely angry that Blizzard insisted in making a live-action movie. They made such a brilliant CGI Introduction to WoW: WOTLK (http://www.wow-europe.com/wrath/intro.xml) that I can't believe they'll be wasting the skill of their CGI team. It's ridiculous.
Why on earth would anyone want to watch a WoW movie? :inquisitive:
See:
Lord of the Rings
Dungeons & Dragons
Other Fantasy Titles
Tratorix
07-22-2009, 21:54
See:
Lord of the Rings
Dungeons & Dragons
Other Fantasy Titles
That same list with all the horrible movies removed:
Lord of the Rings.
A movie about WoW? :laugh4: They can combine the failure of terrible fantasy movies and terrible videogame movies into one!
Sam Raimi must be retiring... in shame.
Its like doing a domino movie.
Zenicetus
07-22-2009, 22:50
Why on earth would anyone want to watch a WoW movie? :inquisitive:
For the hot female Night Elves, what else?
Meneldil
07-22-2009, 23:02
Why on earth would anyone want to watch a WoW movie? :inquisitive:
Same reason people would watch a LotR, a Star Wars, a Star Trek, [insert any well-known Sci-Fi franchise] movie.
Even though I stopped playing WoW, even though the movie will probably be beyond terribad, I'll probably watch it (in shame). Just because I like Warcraft setting. I'm not fan to the point of buying the various comic/regular books, but well, I saw Dungeon & Dragon back then, so heh.
seireikhaan
07-22-2009, 23:21
Same reason people would watch a LotR, a Star Wars, a Star Trek, [insert any well-known Sci-Fi franchise] movie.
Even though I stopped playing WoW, even though the movie will probably be beyond terribad, I'll probably watch it (in shame). Just because I like Warcraft setting. I'm not fan to the point of buying the various comic/regular books, but well, I saw Dungeon & Dragon back then, so heh.
1) Lord of the Rings =/= WoW.
2) Lord of the Rings was/were (a) highly acclaimed movie(s) from nearly eve one, including people who don't usually care for fantasy.
3) Lord of the Rings =/= WoW.
4) Books =/= video games
5) Lord of the Rings =/= WoW
pevergreen
07-23-2009, 00:15
CGI in Warcraft 3: Good
Anything to do with WoW: Bad.
Already hate it.
:yes:
Video game movies are always bad, period.
About the movie per se, I am absolutely angry that Blizzard insisted in making a live-action movie. They made such a brilliant CGI Introduction to WoW: WOTLK (http://www.wow-europe.com/wrath/intro.xml) that I can't believe they'll be wasting the skill of their CGI team. It's ridiculous.
I agree with both the above, if they are not self-contradictory. WoW does not have a very plausible or compelling backstory (I could just about see Bioshock being made into a good movie; System Shock 2 is lodged in my memory as if it was a movie). But the cut scenes and CGI in some video games is so impressive, I do wonder if it might ever be able to mushroom into something like a movie. Or at least, a Star Wars: the Clone Wars type series of shorts. Video directors can graduate to making proper movies - maybe game movie directors can too.
The Warhammer universe is nearly as weak as the WoW one, but having seen some of the Dawn of War game movies, I would pay to watch a movie of the same quality.
It is not a WoW movie, it is a Warcraft movie.
It isn't based on the game at all. Who would want to watch 3 hours of running around Northshire as a movie, with Hogger as the big bad guy.
pevergreen
07-23-2009, 02:14
Dawn of War had the terrible trait of showing normal marines
If you play tabletop (the actual game) marines can't do as much as the backstory says. Each marine is a god, able to kill millions of lesser beings (orks, guardsmen, eldar etc)
Theres only like 60 000 of them though.
FactionHeir
07-23-2009, 11:48
I found the RE movies not too bad. The recent animated version was great too.
The TR ones weren't too bad, but the bullets missing Lara all the time was just plain silly. Simply looked too fake.
Oh, and I guess the movei makers ought to be glad they didn't get Boll involved. Haters and all.
LotR - the books not the movies - had a certain class and a subtelty in the approach and execution that Warcraft and D&D etc, as tacky PC games that were only ever meant to be PC games, lack.
They should do a battletech/mechwarrior movie instead. It doesn't have to have a plot, story or even "acting". The huge robots firing lasers and missiles at each other with jaw dropping CGI will see it through (worked for Transformers). Luminous green orcs and blonde elves speaking in American accents won't be as safe a bet...
For those looking for the next LotR, you need look no further than this:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/
George RR Martin + HBO = Perfection
pevergreen
07-23-2009, 13:26
I'm waiting for:
Raymond E. Feist + anyone who doesnt butcher the books = GODLIKE.
Being quite a Warcraft fan, I feel vaguely excited by the news that a decent director was chosen. :sweatdrop:Having read the books and played the games, I find that the backstory to the Warcraft Universe to be quite good, on par with Warhammer/LotR, and I am sure it is not beyond the realm of possibility that some good storyline can be thought up.
Anyway, the movie isn't going to be based on WoW - who would want to watch 40 people spending 3 hours trying to kill one boss? Instead it would be a war film, and I always like war films :yes:
Meneldil
07-23-2009, 16:00
1) Lord of the Rings =/= WoW.
2) Lord of the Rings was/were (a) highly acclaimed movie(s) from nearly eve one, including people who don't usually care for fantasy.
3) Lord of the Rings =/= WoW.
4) Books =/= video games
5) Lord of the Rings =/= WoW
Warcraft is not a video game, it's a franchise, in the same way LotR and Star Wars are now franchises. Dozens of books, comic books, manga and other assorted crap related to this franchise have been released lately (some before the WoW crazyness). The movie isn't a movie about WoW, but a movie about Warcraft.
Did you wonder why people bothered to watch the new - equally cheesy and overall quite bad - Star Wars trilogy? I seriously doubt you did. Why is Star Wars an accepted nerdish franchise while people go 'OMG no-life nerds' as soon as they hear the word 'Warcraft'? Give me a break.
frogbeastegg
07-23-2009, 16:40
For those looking for the next LotR, you need look no further than this:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/
George RR Martin + HBO = Perfection
:yes: This is literally the only TV series I've looked forward to since the first series of Rome.
Films are frontroom territory, so I shall shunt this over.
Being quite a Warcraft fan, I feel vaguely excited by the news that a decent director was chosen. :sweatdrop:Having read the books and played the games, I find that the backstory to the Warcraft Universe to be quite good, on par with Warhammer/LotR, and I am sure it is not beyond the realm of possibility that some good storyline can be thought up.
Anyway, the movie isn't going to be based on WoW - who would want to watch 40 people spending 3 hours trying to kill one boss? Instead it would be a war film, and I always like war films :yes:
For a WoW movie you already have this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtvIYRrgZ04). xD ***Disclaimer: It has heavy swearing. If you are offended by swearing than don't watch it!***
tibilicus
07-23-2009, 22:17
A WoW movie? What's the plot. A blood elf levels from 5 to 20 and dabbles in some PvP along the way?
If this actually turns out to be a good film I will be gob smacked.
Prussian to the Iron
07-23-2009, 22:38
my main opposition to a WoW movie is this:
it wouldn't have a plot.
correct me if im wrong, but isnt WoW an MMORPG not unlike Runescape in many respects? i thought that it was just "run around. find a quest. do quest. get reward. buy the last XXL WoW t-shirt."
i mean, that would be like trying to make a medieval 2 total war movie: you have no plot.
you know, i think i know what would be a box-office hit WoW movie:
ready?
are you sure?
all right, you asked for it. prepare to be blown to pieces with this awesome idea:
a comedy, with live-action guys dressed in WoW stuff, interacting like normal players and crap. so you'd have the over-immersed guys, the guys who act like they are coo because they are not super immersed, until they realize they are playing WoW, and the guys inbetween.
and of course, you would have to have leroy jenkins in there. no matter what. definitely.
Tratorix
07-23-2009, 22:43
For those looking for the next LotR, you need look no further than this:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/
George RR Martin + HBO = Perfection
Awesome, this is actually going into development! I like their choice of casting Sean Bean as Eddard Stark. He comes out ahead of anyone else they could have picked for the role.
Prussian to the Iron
07-23-2009, 23:16
I'm waiting for:
Raymond E. Feist + anyone who doesnt butcher the books = GODLIKE.
hey, im still waiting for "The Hobbit" to come out. a couple years back i was promised a peter jackson 'The Hobbit". now i am sadfaiced :disappointed:
Warcraft is not a video game, it's a franchise, in the same way LotR and Star Wars are now franchises. Dozens of books, comic books, manga and other assorted crap related to this franchise have been released lately (some before the WoW crazyness). The movie isn't a movie about WoW, but a movie about Warcraft.
no. it is a video game. star wars is a franchise: hundreds of action figures, 6 live-action movies, several tv-series, dozens of video games, dozens of books(comics, etc.), an enormous fan base, and huge conventions. WoW is a game, with a couple nerdy-ass comics.
Warcraft=World of WARCRAFT
Did you wonder why people bothered to watch the new - equally cheesy and overall quite bad - Star Wars trilogy? I seriously doubt you did. Why is Star Wars an accepted nerdish franchise while people go 'OMG no-life nerds' as soon as they hear the word 'Warcraft'? Give me a break.
1. star wars is not new. started in 1977. new? i think not. still good? hell yeah.
2. star wars is not nerdy. one of the coolest people i know loves star wars. as do i and my dad.....and all my siblings :beam:. but seriously, he is like the coolest person ever. if you saw him, your little WoW-encrusted mind might explode.
3. have you ever seen that pic where all the large and Xlarges on the WoW website were out of stock? yeah. 'no-life nerds' kinda fits neatly into that.
im not saying every single person who likes WoW has no life or is a mega-nerd, but there are more of them in WoW than just about any other game.
pevergreen
07-23-2009, 23:29
WoW is a MMORPG based in the Warcraft universe, which has plently of storyline. What people are saying and you are missing is that it would be a film in the universe, not of someone playing the game.
:wall:
Prussian to the Iron
07-23-2009, 23:36
i figured that it wouldnt be someone playing the game, and im pretty sure everyone else saying that i joking. that went right over your head man :P
either way, i'm sure it will be crappy.
QUOTE WARS!!!
my main opposition to a WoW movie is this:
it wouldn't have a plot.Star Wars: The Old Republic is a MMO, so does that mean all the old KotOR games have no plot? :juggle2:
no. it is a video game. star wars is a franchise: hundreds of action figures, 6 live-action movies, several tv-series, dozens of video games, dozens of books(comics, etc.), an enormous fan base, and huge conventions. WoW is a game, with a couple nerdy-ass comics.The Warcraft franchise has the following:
LOTS of action figures :yes:
1 film in the making
4 video games and lots of expansions.
2 Comic series currently, there are more yet to be published. There are also some mangas.
An enormous fanbase.... 11 million playing WoW, plus others who don't play WoW but has played the other games.
Huge convention - Blizzcon.
Warcraft, not WoW, is a slowly growing franchise, much like a mini-star wars :clown:
Warcraft=World of WARCRAFTNot really, see above.
1. star wars is not new. started in 1977. new? i think not. still good? hell yeah.The Warcraft ranchise started in 1994, hardly that new, especially compared to many other games.
A World of Warcraft movie would indeed suck, but a movie set in the Warcraft Universe? Should be interesting..... Just treat it as a generic fantasy movie, not as a video game movie :yes:
pevergreen
07-24-2009, 06:44
Warcraft 3 holds the most popular non game, game, in the world. Defense of the Ancients: Allstars (DotA)
for example: this forum currently has 119 active users, about 70 are guests, the DotA forums have 1089 active users, 418 members.
Hooahguy
07-24-2009, 06:58
well remember pevergreen that number of active users on these forums has decreased dramatically since ETW came out. but still, the numbers hold true.
pevergreen
07-24-2009, 07:02
Most users ever online was 743, 06/07/09 at 01:06.
a few weeks ago.
DotA:
Most users ever online was 3,539 on Mar 15 2006, 03:42 PM
Beefy187
07-24-2009, 07:12
I wonder if any one is up for making a movie for F-Zero. It shouldn't be that hard with current technology and the plot will be much easier to reflect compared to... Mario.
pevergreen
07-24-2009, 07:21
I wonder if any one is up for making a movie for F-Zero. It shouldn't be that hard with current technology and the plot will be much easier to reflect compared to... Mario.
F-Zero X
F0X. Starfox :grin2:
Prussian to the Iron
07-24-2009, 07:43
this forum currently has 119 active users, about 70 are guests, the DotA forums have 1089 active users, 418 members.
yeah, but this is also a much smaller and overall more mature forum compared to others.
I think a comparison between TWC and DOTA would be a bit more fair. tey have the same sort of members mostly: annoying 10 year olds who think they know everything.
obviously nothing like the 14 year old who actually knows everything right here :laugh4:!
pevergreen
07-24-2009, 07:48
We had someone like that. His name need not be mentioned.
Prussian to the Iron
07-24-2009, 15:27
.....i'm the 14 year old who actually knows everything :P :D
hey, im still waiting for "The Hobbit" to come out. a couple years back i was promised a peter jackson 'The Hobbit". now i am sadfaiced :disappointed:
There was an April Fool's rumor around the time of Return of the King's release that Jackson was already working on The Hobbit, unfortunately many people didn't realize it was just a prank and took it seriously.
I wonder if any one is up for making a movie for F-Zero. It shouldn't be that hard with current technology and the plot will be much easier to reflect compared to... Mario.
If ya like anime there's already something (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-Zero_(series)#Anime) like that.
seireikhaan
07-25-2009, 06:53
There was an April Fool's rumor around the time of Return of the King's release that Jackson was already working on The Hobbit, unfortunately many people didn't realize it was just a prank and took it seriously.
If ya like anime there's already something (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-Zero_%28series%29#Anime) like that.
Ahem (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903624/).
Gonna be a while, but the fact that Jackson is still on board(though not director) is great. Del Toro is extremely talented as well, and I'm confident the film won't disappoint.
I always thought a Warcraft movie should have been done by Blizzard's cinematics team. I always thought their cut-scenes were amazing (and are amazing). If they ever did do a live action movie. I'd say one along the lines of Jackson's LoTR series because a near 2 hour movie wouldn't cut it imho.
I'd say Warcraft's world is like a snowball. Started off small at first, then snowballed into the behemoth that it is today :yes: Yes it did start off as a video game, but now, after WoW came out, it has reached franchise status. I just figured Warcraft was like any other video game series like Fallout or Eldar Scrolls, but then WoW came out. You can only really attribute its insane popularity, imho, to the release of WoW, there's no doubt about in my mind.
I will say one thing however, if they make a Starcraft movie... I'm going to be pissed. :whip:
Mouzafphaerre
07-25-2009, 15:52
.
That same list with all the horrible movies removed:
Lord of the Rings.
:gah2:
The most horrible...OK, one of the most horrible bastardizations of a literary work, ever.
.
Prussian to the Iron
07-25-2009, 16:18
The most horrible...OK, one of the most horrible bastardizations of a literary work, ever.
absolutely not!
perhaps it differs from the books, but, having honestly tried to read the books, i found myself with 3 expensive books with 3 pages finished in each of them. I could not read them, hard as i tried.
keep in mind, I read 'The Hobbit' and 'The 3 Musketeers', unabridged, without issue.
i love the movies.:beam:
Ahem (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903624/).
Gonna be a while, but the fact that Jackson is still on board(though not director) is great. Del Toro is extremely talented as well, and I'm confident the film won't disappoint.
yeah, because never have we been promised a movie on IMDB only to have it not release.
like that Halo movie that supposedly came out in 2009? anyone ever heard of that? no? because it didn't exist outside of IMDB.
anyway, its a shame that peter jackson isn't directing. i've never seen a del toro movie, so i cant judge him though. my only hope is that he uses almost every posible detail from The Hobbit, and makes it as good as the book.
I just figured Warcraft was like any other video game series like Fallout or Eldar Scrolls, but then WoW came out.
the difference is that:
Eldar scrolls has a storyline in the game, that anyone whos played is familiar with. not a required storyline, but a storyline nonetheless.
fallout, im not sure, but i think it is the same way.
WoW: MMORPG that has no storyline unless you read some crappy books.
seireikhaan
07-25-2009, 17:53
yeah, because never have we been promised a movie on IMDB only to have it not release.
like that Halo movie that supposedly came out in 2009? anyone ever heard of that? no? because it didn't exist outside of IMDB.
anyway, its a shame that peter jackson isn't directing. i've never seen a del toro movie, so i cant judge him though. my only hope is that he uses almost every posible detail from The Hobbit, and makes it as good as the book.
Ahem (http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00025347.htmlf). :beam:
Prussian to the Iron
07-26-2009, 01:47
Ahem (http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00025347.htmlf). :beam:
?????
it says its a broken link.
Ahem (http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00025347.htmlf). :beam:
edit: Nevermind, i think i found the link you were after (http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00025347.html).
The director of Hellboy, promising. Loved that movie. ~D
I wonder if any one is up for making a movie for F-Zero. It shouldn't be that hard with current technology and the plot will be much easier to reflect compared to... Mario.
Please, no.
The series is great, but a movie would wind up being Speed Racer + Captain Falcon.
seireikhaan
07-26-2009, 03:57
edit: Nevermind, i think i found the link you were after (http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00025347.html).
The director of Hellboy, promising. Loved that movie. ~D
Yup, that's what I was after.
Del Toro also directed Pan's Labyrinth, which I highly recommend.
Prussian to the Iron
07-26-2009, 08:37
"The Hobbit 2" will be released in 2012.
oh damn. the world truly is ending isn't it?
just because they announced it means nothing. trust me. the halo movie and the gears of war movie were continually picked up and dropped, with extensive plans being made over and over.
Del Toro also directed Pan's Labyrinth, which I highly recommend.
Off topic, but if anyone likes Pan's Labyrinth, I also recommend the Orphanage by the same director. Less fantastical and more adult, but similar and utterly compelling.
I have high hopes for his version of the Hobbit. With Peter Jackson stepping out, I can't think of anyone I'd rather see direct it.
Off topic, but if anyone likes Pan's Labyrinth, I also recommend the Orphanage by the same director. Less fantastical and more adult, but similar and utterly compelling.
The Orphanage was a great film, but I preferred Del Toro's earlier film on a similar theme "The Devil's Backbone".
I have high hopes for his version of the Hobbit. With Peter Jackson stepping out, I can't think of anyone I'd rather see direct it.
I couldn't agree more. This certainly has got to be an improvement over the LOTR trilogy.
:bow:
I believe there is a prequel movie to the Lord the Rings in existence already. Named the 'Hunt for Gollum' or or something. It's fan made, and the Aragorn in it could have done better had he looked slightly tougher and rugged, but still it's pretty good.
And it's free....
Edit : Yup it's Open Source alright, here's a link;
http://www.archive.org/details/TheHuntForGollum
pevergreen
07-26-2009, 14:15
Now, I've read most of the trilogy (couldnt deal with Book 2/6, stopped reading halfway through, so i've read 2 and 3/4) and I'm a stickler for movies based off books staying true, but I was ok, purely because they cut out all the bloody singing.
Prussian to the Iron
07-26-2009, 16:40
and I'm a stickler for movies based off books staying true, but I was ok, purely because they cut out all the bloody singing.
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
too true dude, way too true.
anyway, i hope the hobbit will be as true to the book as the game is (which was very true to the book, i must say). when a game is more accurate than the movie, someting is horibly, horribly wrong.
pevergreen
07-26-2009, 23:23
Directors/writes interpretation and so forth, whereas a game makes money by being like what it is based off.
Beefy187
07-27-2009, 10:06
There was an April Fool's rumor around the time of Return of the King's release that Jackson was already working on The Hobbit, unfortunately many people didn't realize it was just a prank and took it seriously.
If ya like anime there's already something (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-Zero_(series)#Anime) like that.
Seen a bit of the anime.. Well pever showed it to me a while back. It looked alright :yes:
Please, no.
The series is great, but a movie would wind up being Speed Racer + Captain Falcon.
I never ended up watching Speed Racer.. Was it bad? :sweatdrop:
pevergreen
07-27-2009, 13:24
Seen a bit of the anime.. Well pever showed it to me a while back. It looked alright :yes:
"Black Shadow, going to hell seems to become you and I."
"Rick Wheeler, only person that suceeds falcon can become falcon."
"I DO NOT DIE, YOU DIE!"
"FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALWCON PAAAAAAAAAAUNCH!!!!"
"CAPTAIN FALCON!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw
Prussian to the Iron
07-27-2009, 14:47
I never ended up watching Speed Racer.. Was it bad? :sweatdrop:
you cannot even imagine.
just because they announced it means nothing. trust me. the halo movie and the gears of war movie were continually picked up and dropped, with extensive plans being made over and over.
The probability that The Hobbit will be made is pretty much 100%. If you want to know why, click this link (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic.htm) and look at numbers 11, 15, and 25, or this link (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/) and look at numbers 2, 8, and 15. Franchises that make that much money do not simply die, especially when they have pre-written source material ready to back them up. Hollywood is a business. The Hobbit would be guaranteed make a very large amount of money due to the success of LotR. Thus, The Hobbit will be made eventually by someone.
Prussian to the Iron
07-27-2009, 19:59
but the halo series has made much, much more money. not to mention all the nwe ones coming out now.
but the halo series has made much, much more money. not to mention all the nwe ones coming out now.
No video game has ever come remotely close to the profit levels of the top-grossing movies. Halo is no exception (http://www.mediapundit.net/2007/09/halo-3-sales-numbers-pathetically-overblown.html). The film business operates on revenues that are orders of magnitude greater than the gaming business.
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A bit more research on this. Current Halo 3 sales worldwide: 9.94 million (http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6964). Assuming that every single sale of that game was at $60 USD (which is not even remotely true, a large number will be at sums far lower than that), that results in total gross profits of $596,400,000 USD. That's a HEAVY exaggeration of the best selling game in the Halo series. Actual gross profits are more likely to be around $400 million or so due to drops in price after the initial release.
Even if we add in Halo and Halo 2, the figures don't come close to equaling the top film franchises. Halo sold 6.43 million copies and Halo 2 sold 8.46 million copies (both figures from that same website above). Assuming once again the heavily exaggerated price of $60 per copy on every single one of those, the total gross for the entire Halo series works out to $1,489,800,000 USD. At current sales levels, Halo 3's gross puts it 47th place on the top grossing films of all time, just after Mamma Mia and Madagascar 2.
The top grossing film of all time is Titanic, which brought in $1,842,900,000 USD. That is three times more than even the maximum heavily-exaggerated figure for Halo 3. It's also $400 million more than the entire Halo series combined at the maximum exaggerated level. The LotR movies grossed, respectively, $870,800,000 USD, $925,300,000 USD, and $1,119,000,000 USD. On top of all that, none of these film figures include anything but box office take. This doesn't include DVD sales, merchandising, television releases, etc. While some video games also get a small revenue stream from similar things, it's nothing in comparison to the side-profits from films. There is, simply put, no comparison to be made between film and video game profits.
Crazed Rabbit
07-27-2009, 21:00
Off topic, but if anyone likes Pan's Labyrinth, I also recommend the Orphanage by the same director. Less fantastical and more adult, but similar and utterly compelling.
More adult than a man being killed by bashing his nose into his brain with a beer bottle? And fairies being killed by a disturbing monster?
CR
More adult than ....
I mean adult, as in more targeted at a grown up and mature audience, as opposed to more adult as in adult store, R rated, sex and violence adult.
Pan's Labyrinth is a curious movie because some of it seems to be targeted at children, or done in the style of a child's story and yet there is also the stuff you mentioned. On one level, it's a children's fairy tale; on another, it is a brutal Spanish Civil War story. It's that unusual mix that accounts for a lot of it's appeal. I've found older children (teens etc) really like it; my fantasy abjuring wife was less convinced.
The Orphanage does not have the child's perspective - instead, it is told from the point of view of rather sophisticated and sensible parents. On one level, it's a story of parental loss; on another, it's mild psychological horror. It's aimed a slightly older sensibility, I think. My wife thought it was great, but I think it freaked out my son more than Pan's Labyrinth.
Prussian to the Iron
07-27-2009, 23:47
No video game has ever come remotely close to the profit levels of the top-grossing movies. Halo is no exception (http://www.mediapundit.net/2007/09/halo-3-sales-numbers-pathetically-overblown.html). The film business operates on revenues that are orders of magnitude greater than the gaming business.
right, because first-day sales are so representative of overall sales right?
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A bit more research on this. Current Halo 3 sales worldwide: 9.94 million (http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6964). Assuming that every single sale of that game was at $60 USD (which is not even remotely true, a large number will be at sums far lower than that), that results in total gross profits of $596,400,000 USD. That's a HEAVY exaggeration of the best selling game in the Halo series. Actual gross profits are more likely to be around $400 million or so due to drops in price after the initial release.
what? WHAT!?!?!? since when have prices dropped? it is still $60 at every official retail store (best buy, gamestop, walmart, etc.), unless used. so going solely by the sales of stores, and not pawn shops or e-bay, than you have a number very close to the one you said.
Even if we add in Halo and Halo 2, the figures don't come close to equaling the top film franchises. Halo sold 6.43 million copies and Halo 2 sold 8.46 million copies (both figures from that same website above). Assuming once again the heavily exaggerated price of $60 per copy on every single one of those, the total gross for the entire Halo series works out to $1,489,800,000 USD. At current sales levels, Halo 3's gross puts it 47th place on the top grossing films of all time, just after Mamma Mia and Madagascar 2.
halo 1 and 2 would be $50, though in the past few years they have been reduced to $20.
The top grossing film of all time is Titanic, which brought in $1,842,900,000 USD. That is three times more than even the maximum heavily-exaggerated figure for Halo 3. It's also $400 million more than the entire Halo series combined at the maximum exaggerated level. The LotR movies grossed, respectively, $870,800,000 USD, $925,300,000 USD, and $1,119,000,000 USD. On top of all that, none of these film figures include anything but box office take. This doesn't include DVD sales, merchandising, television releases, etc. While some video games also get a small revenue stream from similar things, it's nothing in comparison to the side-profits from films. There is, simply put, no comparison to be made between film and video game profits.
1. i never said halo 3. i said halo series.
2. i concede that i was wrong with the profits. doesnt mean you have to be mean about it.
pevergreen
07-28-2009, 00:33
He's not being mean. Hes a lawyer, and is good at what he does. He uses facts.
"Facts! Facts! Twist them anyway you want! FACTS FACTSH RUGHURHGUHRUGH A:SDGF ASKGAKLF"
- 12 Angry Men
Those would be prices from around your area. Halo 1 and 2 here go for about 12US, Halo 3 on release was about 85-90US.
TinCow has presented figures. You claim every sale would be at $60US. I don't know about America, but we have EBgames that sells at RRP (100AUD) then another new place (Gametraders) that will sell at about 90AUD, then JBHiFi, at 70 or 80 AUD, then places like BigW (i think its like the Walmart, with lots less) may sell for 40-60AUD, then you take into account bundles, sales and upgrades. Figures on that scale can't be 100% accurate.
Example: I bought a copy of Street Fighter 4. From a store here, $100. From a place in England, $45. Still counts as the same to Bungie, but I save a whole lot of money.
Prussian to the Iron
07-28-2009, 07:46
He's not being mean. Hes a lawyer, and is good at what he does. He uses facts.
that must be why he scares me :sweatdrop:
Those would be prices from around your area. Halo 1 and 2 here go for about 12US, Halo 3 on release was about 85-90US.
what? you guys pay 25-30 USD more than us? thats hilarious!!!
TinCow has presented figures. You claim every sale would be at $60US. I don't know about America, but we have EBgames that sells at RRP (100AUD) then another new place (Gametraders) that will sell at about 90AUD, then JBHiFi, at 70 or 80 AUD, then places like BigW (i think its like the Walmart, with lots less) may sell for 40-60AUD, then you take into account bundles, sales and upgrades. Figures on that scale can't be 100% accurate.
??? i dont know the translation of AUD into USD, so...yeah.
Example: I bought a copy of Street Fighter 4. From a store here, $100. From a place in England, $45. Still counts as the same to Bungie, but I save a whole lot of money.
the point is that, comparitively, im pretty sure the prices even out to be roughly the same.
you have to remember too that right now everything having to do with money is pretty much going ot hell. so prices right now may not be very even.
Ja'chyra
07-28-2009, 08:18
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The most horrible...OK, one of the most horrible bastardizations of a literary work, ever.
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Meh, the books weren't that good but then the films weren't that great either.
Yeah, for some strange reason Austrialia has always had absurdly high game prices. Yahtzee of Zero Punctuation fame rants about it regularly. Exchange rates don't compensate for it either, the prices are significantly higher. Once full downloading of console games becomes commonplace, I have a feeling the Aussie game stores are going to suffer badly.
Prussian to the Iron
07-28-2009, 17:19
do you think that the downloads will be at a normal price (like equivalent to 50 USD, like lots of places), or higher, but not as high as gamestores there?
perhaps its more expensive because of shipping costs? i mean, its nowhere close to any of the major consumers of video games(US, UK, Germany, etc.), so you kind of have to go out of the way to ship it there.
If downloads are more expensive in Australia, there are going to be lawsuits. The higher prices for packaged games can be justified on the basis of transportation costs, which are a problem for a lot of Austrialian imports. Even I'd have a tough time arguing that production costs are higher for digital distribution in Austrilia though.
pevergreen
07-29-2009, 00:23
Not really TinCow. I can buy a game from the US for $50 USD
Live rates at 2009.07.28 23:19:54 UTC
50.00 USD = 60.6715 AUD
Plus $10 USD or a few more for shipping. Still less. Or I can buy one, as I said from the UK, ends up at $52 AUD all up.
Its my view that games held a common price back when it was 2 AUD to 1 USD. Now, it fluctuates between high 70's to mid 90's (cents) for 1 USD.
Prices are not going to change, in fact, most of the time, big games come out at $110, even if they don't have a collectors edition. EG: GTA4 was $110, Time Splitters 2 was $110. And that was a PS2 game.
I paid 74.23 US Dollars for my copy of Empire: Total war, and that was with a $10 pre order discount.
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