ACIN's procreation problem...

[a completely inoffensive name]

In my game I find that 100 years into my save game I have 78 cities but some how all of my generals since the games beginning have found killing more fun then having special time with their ladies and now I have just one old faction leader and a 45 year old faction heir. Every guy I adopt is so horrible they die each and every time I try to send them into consecutive battles. At this point there are no weak rebels just stacks of Sweboz and yellow death coming at me. What should I do?

[Teleklos Archelaou]

You have more than 75 provinces and just *two* family members?

[a completely inoffensive name]

You have more than 75 provinces and just *two* family members?

Yes. They keep producing girls and/or nothing. When I adopt they suck with crappy traits and usually die because I am playing on VH/H.

[Vasiliyi]

Ive never had that problem. Bug?

[a completely inoffensive name]

Ive never had that problem. Bug?

At some point I have edited every file at least once. Could I have messed something up with the probabilities of having children, boys/girls etc..?

[Teleklos Archelaou]

I've never heard of anything remotely like that. Either you have introduced some bug, you are the worst general ever, or you are just really really really unlucky. :grin: If I kill off a couple of generals in a battle and I have a ton of provinces, I almost always get new ones or fight a battle and get men of the hour like crazy.

[antisocialmunky]

If you get 4 daughters on all your living generals, I don't think you can do anything except do a sex change console command/save hack thing.

[a completely inoffensive name]

k thx guys.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Ive never had that problem. Bug?
Yes, a bug. But not a computer one. More of the likes of a one that infect Homo sapiens sapiens. And not a noticeable on either, but more of the stealthy, insidious nature. So far, the only known symptoms of it are the rare but yet documented dramatic and abrupt elongation of the protuberance of our body which houses the nostrils. Yes, that part.

This grotesque and peculiar effect is observed only in men of certain character, of certain physical disability which is characterised by the replacement of the somatic composition from flesh to cellulose in a process not yet rationalised by the befuddled men of knowledge of these days. How morbidly curious you say, but believe my word, and believe you shall, this affliction is, if we are to heed the statistics, is the most common of all the human maladies.

[Geticus]

Go generalless.
With 75 provinces your empire should be awash in gold. So just let your 45 year old be a fat cat, preferably in a city with a fertility temple. Send out the legions with lots of +morale units like prima cohors imperatoria or mercenary generals, naked spearmen or whatever and superior high morale units so they won't route. Hire morale penalty mercs like wargozes and tindanotae. Victorious armies will sometimes spawn men of the hour who you immediately retire and put out to stud in some city doing no military service, just procreating and let the legions win without generals. Sooner or later you should get a decent kid, let him govern a city with a war temple until he becomes hale and hearty then let him go out and crush the world.

[A Very Super Market]

Nah, Meth has still got his own hair.

ACIN, just park your family members in a city and let them do their nefarious deeds. Although their children will probably be equally hopeless as your adoptees.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Go generalless.
With 75 provinces your empire should be awash in gold. So just let your 45 year old be a fat cat, preferably in a city with a fertility temple. Send out the legions with lots of +morale units like prima cohors imperatoria or mercenary generals, naked spearmen or whatever and superior high morale units so they won't route. Hire morale penalty mercs like wargozes and tindanotae. Victorious armies will sometimes spawn men of the hour who you immediately retire and put out to stud in some city doing no military service, just procreating and let the legions win without generals. Sooner or later you should get a decent kid, let him govern a city with a war temple until he becomes hale and hearty then let him go out and crush the world.
Still do not suspect anything, do you?

[Geticus]

Still do not suspect anything, do you?

I think you are basically just befuddling the befuddler. Screw it, if ACIN is smart enough to mod all his files but yet lacks the diligence to keep his generals out of harms way or at least let them sit around in cities until they get hitpoints, he should just press the reset button and start anew.

Build taverns and temples of the wargod.

[Andy1984]

Keep them in cities that are safe and fight your wars with client rulers and mercenary generals?

[Megas Methuselah]

Keep them in cities that are safe and fight your wars with client rulers and mercenary generals?

But what if the Family Members can't have anymore children, as their 4 children/adoptees are already dead? If so, ACIN's campaign is pretty screwed.

[A Very Super Market]

Or, if the saggy skin had finally finished it's downward migration?

[Megas Methuselah]

But what if the Family Members can't have anymore children, as their 4 children/adoptees are already dead? If so, ACIN's campaign is pretty screwed.

He has a limited time to conquer the map. The lifespan of his remaining FM's, to be exact.

[A Very Super Market]

Oh, winning EB isn't about the objectives, it's about the journey man, totally zen and all.

[a completely inoffensive name]

He has a limited time to conquer the map. The lifespan of his remaining FM's, to be exact.

I think I can do that, if I role play that all my generals are now suddenly cowards after facing death 18 times.

[Megas Methuselah]

I think I can do that, if I role play that all my generals are now suddenly cowards after facing death 18 times.

You'll have to use that savegame glitch to get your FM's past 120 years of age.

[a completely inoffensive name]

You'll have to use that savegame glitch to get your FM's past 120 years of age.

There we go. Solution to my problem. I will just have my faction heir live 3 lives.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

Keep in mind that all children, unmarried women, and recruited generals effect the birth rate. If your number of family members, children, unmarried women, and generals is near to or above the number of settlements you own, the game will stop your family from having children. If you have a bunch of recruited generals or such, kill them off to make room for births.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Keep in mind that all children, unmarried women, and recruited generals effect the birth rate. If your number of family members, children, unmarried women, and generals is near to or above the number of settlements you own, the game will stop your family from having children. If you have a bunch of recruited generals or such, kill them off to make room for births.

At this point I made all my border provinces have lvl 4 gov and made a local ruler in each. Does this affect the birth rate?

[dake]

Stop using family members as generals?

[A Very Super Market]

What a preposterous idea. No commoner can possibly lead as well as a royal. Why, the only way to keep our bloodline competent would be.... to have them marry their cousins or something.... surely, this would result only in the finest specimens at the end of the bloodline.

[chenkai11]

@ACIN

May I see a picture of your family tree? I might learn something new.

[a completely inoffensive name]

@ACIN

May I see a picture of your family tree? I might learn something new.

Can't. I every time I try somehow it ends up being my screen as if I had the game minimized. Otherwise I was going to make my game an AAR. I had a funny title and everything.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Can't. I every time I try somehow it ends up being my screen as if I had the game minimized. Otherwise I was going to make my game an AAR. I had a funny title and everything.
Keep extending that facial appendage...

[Megas Methuselah]

Keep in mind that all children, unmarried women, and recruited generals effect the birth rate. If your number of family members, children, unmarried women, and generals is near to or above the number of settlements you own, the game will stop your family from having children. If you have a bunch of recruited generals or such, kill them off to make room for births.

Recruited generals restrict that? Hmm. This really opens up a lot of possibilities. :yes:

[chenkai11]

Can't. I every time I try somehow it ends up being my screen as if I had the game minimized. Otherwise I was going to make my game an AAR. I had a funny title and everything.

Ok man, cool with me.

Just lead your 2 family members to glory! Father and son, fight together and die together!

What's the faction again? :2thumbsup:

[a completely inoffensive name]

Ok man, cool with me.

Just lead your 2 family members to glory! Father and son, fight together and die together!

What's the faction again? :2thumbsup:

Rome. (Here come the Roman haters....)

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

At this point I made all my border provinces have lvl 4 gov and made a local ruler in each. Does this affect the birth rate?
Yeah, every client ruler will count in the total number of family members allowed. If you have tons of recruited generals, you will have less births in your royal family.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Yeah, every client ruler will count in the total number of family members allowed. If you have tons of recruited generals, you will have less births in your royal family.

ahh, shoot I have over loaded on them since the beginning of my campaign.

[Skullheadhq]

Rome. (Here come the Roman haters....)

mmm...maybe true Makedonians butchered your FM's

[a completely inoffensive name]

mmm...maybe true Makedonians butchered your FM's

Like 5 adopted ones yeah. It was the the two Gaul factions that kept killing all the actual royal members (and maybe 2 by the Luso).

[chenkai11]

Like 5 adopted ones yeah. It was the the two Gaul factions that kept killing all the actual royal members (and maybe 2 by the Luso).

May be?

[a completely inoffensive name]

May be?

I took over Spain first after taking all of Italy and Sicily like a few weeks ago so I don't remember off the top of my head.

(I wanted to keep Luso alive from Carthage but they ended up betraying me and I had to kill 3 stacks of Luso with a few weakened moderately experienced stacks.)

[Andy1984]

If you massacred your client rulers and made as many settlements as possible lvl3 or lower you might still be able to save your game?

[TruePraetorian]

Yeah, every client ruler will count in the total number of family members allowed. If you have tons of recruited generals, you will have less births in your royal family.

I don't think this is entirely true considering in my Casse campiagn I have 3 settlements, 2 client rulers, and 6 family members...do you have any proof for this? It interests me :book:

Also, if a faction hordes they gain a set amount of family members although they would not possess any settlements. Therefore, a hordeing faction also negates this.

Or it could just be BI.exe, since that is what I use..

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

If you have none or very few settlements, you will have more family members than settlements. That 1:1 ratio only really takes effect if you have somewhere around more than five settlements.

[TruePraetorian]

If you have none or very few settlements, you will have more family members than settlements. That 1:1 ratio only really takes effect if you have somewhere around more than five settlements.

Makes sense. Honestly though I can account for a few games where I've had too many family members/client rulers instead of a shortage so the percent chance must just drop instead of becoming null, am I correct?

In other words you can still have kids even if there is a 20:1 ratio of family to settlements but the odds are very low?

[Cute Wolf]

Rome. (Here come the Roman haters....)

No... your problem si soo pitiful, and maybe you must consider adopt some good Hellenes to fill your royal family...

But I do have a serious suggestion for you...

If u don't want an adoptee, and your FH have less than 4 child, sit him on a nice medium city, but not too large, so every turns he will occupied with overseeing strucrural construction... In my game, for somewhat reasons, a governor with busy construction schedules usually got child... (maybe they get bored by those carpenters and masons, that only place some wood and stones with niosy sounds (Thuck tuck tack tack bang slam!), so they start seeing their wives?)