Romanikantoni? Who are they? And Why they hate Romans? [Archive]

Rahwana

08-01-2009, 17:00

Mikhail Mengsk

08-01-2009, 17:13

<charging flamethrower>

XD

gamegeek2

08-01-2009, 17:14

Lol - it's largely just having fun among us Hellenic fans. I don't hate romani at all, but I'm a member...well because it's fun. I'm not one of the crazy ones at any rate.

Rahwana

08-01-2009, 17:17

Oh well, hellenic fans? I see. But why they hate Romans? That is my question.

Why they did not name themself "Greek Lovers?" ans I know that some Romanikantoni support Carthaginians instead of Greeks

satalexton

08-01-2009, 17:33

We represent the collective ire of every other faction in EB, it just so happens that hellenes were the 'most prominant' (to themselves at least =P) people during 272 BC. And it's fun =P we group together to counter the sheer amount of Romaioi fanboyism everywhere, so other cultures may have a chance in shining their light.

Burn Barbaropolis Burn! :clown:

Vasiliyi

08-01-2009, 17:42

:) Hi.

The Romaioktonoi are apart of a social group who "hates" romans. Although many of us really write some pretty "mean" stuff here at the .org, were fairly jolly people who love to have fun. Its more of an inside joke started between Maion and Satalexton which quickly spread into a social group where we flame the romans.

While we look to be a group that causes nothing but trouble, I wouldn't say we are. In fact, many of the Romaioktonoi are lovers are lovers of the arts as many of our group write aars. We also write write quite a bit of poetry. (Posted in our social group threads).

The Romaioktonoi started out as a hellene only "club", but seeing as many other civilized cultures hate those Romaioi Barbaroi, they made room to accomidate cultures such as the celts, germans, phonecians, and nomads. The Romaioktonoi are very accepting of all cultures who hate the Romans, as they are the only true barbarians. There is however a new group started by Satalexton called "ALL Hail Makedonia" which is for hellenes only.

I hope you don't judge the Romaioktonoi on first site. You should all come check out the group. Were currently recruiting for the upcoming invasion.

Rahwana

08-01-2009, 17:52

Well, I'm not interested to join :laugh: because I didn't hate the Romans at all (and I admit that I was a Roman fan). Hate something out of nothing or for joke is really pointless, unless you can post some good arguments here.

Well, maybe I should look when Cutewolf and Me start the next semester, he was the assistant at the inorganic lab afterall, and he was "guilty" of installing EB (and many games) in the network (he was the admin), that took tool on some students become addicted with EB. I just plain surprised when read his posts about Romans, because if we play BI, the second faction he usually used in MP (after Hun), is Eastern Roman Empire.

satalexton

08-01-2009, 17:56

worry not, we'll refrain from crucifying you...so long you do not petition the EB team for LS :clown:

Krusader

08-01-2009, 18:07

Well, I'm just new to this forum, and get confused with some members who say they hate the Romani. :dizzy2: , well, actually i ask my friend who apparently also their group, and say they are the Roman haters. Now I want to ask... Why they hate the Romans?

EDIT: He says that he hate the Roman republic for destroying some other cultures and backstabbing their treaties, and they are the most overpowered faction in most games.

Welcome to the forums.

Yeah its a harmless game of sorts played by a few forum patrons here. As long as it stays harmless and does not derail threads it will stay.

Regards to destroying other cultures and backstabbing treaties, that's a human thing, not Roman :beam:

Companion Cavalry

08-01-2009, 18:08

Romaiktonoi

Spell it right, barbaros.

satalexton

08-01-2009, 18:10

Welcome to the forums.

Yeah its a harmless game of sorts played by a few forum patrons here. As long as it stays harmless and does not derail threads it will stay.

Regards to destroying other cultures and backstabbing treaties, that's a human thing, not Roman :beam:

But them Romaioi did it the more (and became an empire...), hence they are the True-Barbaroi. :clown:

Jebivjetar

08-01-2009, 18:26

I don't hate romaioi- barbaroi. As a matter of fact, i read a lot about them and i have respect for their "will to power". Anyway i kill them... tons and tons of them... i'm a Carthaginian for gods sake!

:clown:

Down to your knees, Romans!

Cute Wolf

08-01-2009, 18:42

Ck Ck Ck.... so you ask about Romaioktonoi? well, it was really just for fun, and we are more "alternative hisroty fan" in the world when the Romaioi didn't conquer the world.

Well, next semester I was no longer the admin of our bloved inorganic lab network, so I will try to promote you as the next admin, so we can still play multiplayers, giving our crappy internet connection, to mention that TW multiplayers eat up most bandwidth. I'm affraid if the next admin is not game lovers, he will delete most of my games.

Centurio Nixalsverdrus

08-01-2009, 18:46

Romaiktonoi

Spell it right, barbaros.
Romaioktonoi.

I should add that we are planning a ruthless war to avenge our beloved Basileus Maion, who has gone the way all martyrs go.

Companion Cavalry

08-01-2009, 18:54

Romaioktonoi.

I should add that we are planning a ruthless war to avenge our beloved Basileus Maion, who has gone the way all martyrs go.

Blasted typos!

Still not as bad as the OP's :laugh4:

HunGeneral

08-01-2009, 19:09

Welcome to the forums Sonic!

Well as many have said so far this whole Romani-Killing/Hating started as a Joke between Satalexton and Maion. At first I also found it strange, but when I got things clear I joined.

The Romaioktonoi are not just Hellenes but are of many cultures, (the Hellenes are just the most prominent/leading Members). Among the Romaioktonoi I myself represent the Nomads above all even if I am a Hellene fan (thats why I am in the Makedonia group aswell).

I for one never liked the fact that I have to spare and "baby-sitt" the Romani if I'm playing as any faction whoes reforms are tied to the MOT (march of time) and also have to tolerate them building a Huge city in Italy (I like to make sure all cities in my realm are of my factions culture). I don't claim that the romani were the inventors of deciete, betrayel, and brutality. There "wish for power and will to fight for it" is something I find worth to take as an example for policy in EB and/or any TW game.

And as many have stated already, some prominent members of the group are writing AARs (very good ones by the way) and also write nice poems (to see those join the group).

As much as I know we haven't derailed any thread so far. Also most of us are lovers of many forms of alternative History and we also wish to show that the past could have been different. Pluss most of us find this "Romani centeredness/overjudgement" a bit too much.

satalexton

08-01-2009, 19:11

One Vision, One Purpose!
Destruction of Barbaropolis!
One World, One Dream!
Enslaving all Barbaroi!
One Heart, One Mind!
Romaioktonoi to the ends of time!

Aemilius Paulus

08-01-2009, 19:55

were fairly jolly people who love to have fun.
Yeah, and spoil the fun for others :no:. Remember what Epicurus said? Pleasure to moderation and as long as it does no ill to others. Your group sort of violated the two tenets :sweatdrop:. The Romaioktonoi group is the single and only largest pest here. Why does every decent and non-decent thread have to be trashed with "Oooh, the Romaioi are so fluffing weak" "Ooooh, they suck so much lol" "Oooh, Hellenoi roxor so much"...

And hey, that is nothing is comparable to Satalexton spam, as he is truly a worthy successor to the past Meth-ACIN spam this sub-forum lived through. I mean, Methacin duo cleverly masked their spam, but Sata posts are pure rubbish.

Darius

08-01-2009, 20:59

I find Jebs are worse, but that's mainly because you have to figure out what he's trying to say at first unless it's one of his usual one liners such as "I like the smell of burning Rome" or "Scipio must die" etc. If there posts were at least constructive in even the slightest most minute way it wouldn't be an issue but a few of them seem to be rarely capable of this.

A Terribly Harmful Name

08-01-2009, 21:05

DEATH TO BARBAROPOLIS!

http://edexcellence.net/flypaper/images/20081028_RomeBurning.jpg

Friends and Kin who love all that is good in this world, UNITE!

They made a desert and called it peace - Takitos

Vasiliyi

08-01-2009, 22:59

One Vision, One Purpose!
Destruction of Barbaropolis!
One World, One Dream!
Enslaving all Barbaroi!
One Heart, One Mind!
Romaioktonoi to the ends of time!

:2thumbsup: You never cease with the poetry! Hail our Basileus Satalexton!

Yeah, and spoil the fun for others :no:. Remember what Epicurus said? Pleasure to moderation and as long as it does no ill to others. Your group sort of violated the two tenets :sweatdrop:. The Romaioktonoi group is the single and only largest pest here. Why does every decent and non-decent thread have to be trashed with "Oooh, the Romaioi are so fluffing weak" "Ooooh, they suck so much lol" "Oooh, Hellenoi roxor so much"...

And hey, that is nothing is comparable to Satalexton spam, as he is truly a worthy successor to the past Meth-ACIN spam this sub-forum lived through. I mean, Methacin duo cleverly masked their spam, but Sata posts are pure rubbish.

"Oooh, the Romaioi are so fluffing weak" "Ooooh, they suck so much lol" "Oooh, Hellenoi roxor so much"...

Huh, ive actually dont think that any one of us have said those words. You sound silly, AP. Chill, this is the internet.

and let the moderators deal with with Satalextons Spam. If they think its too much, they will let him know. Like Krusader said, its Harmless. Its not your job to keep the forum "spamless", he have mods for that.

I find Jebs are worse, but that's mainly because you have to figure out what he's trying to say at first unless it's one of his usual one liners such as "I like the smell of burning Rome" or "Scipio must die" etc. If there posts were at least constructive in even the slightest most minute way it wouldn't be an issue but a few of them seem to be rarely capable of this.

I like Jebs, as I find them entertaining. Its poetry, first off. Second off, hes from Croatia, and I dont think his english is perfect.

Aemilius Paulus

08-01-2009, 23:04

Huh, ive actually dont think that any one of us have said those words. You sound silly, AP. Chill, this is the internet.
No, I was not saying you did that - I mean the other group members would say thins along those lines. Unlike some others, I have never seen you spam that way, but you do manage to insert others things at times.

Also, while I do certainly sound like a sour-faced disciplinarian/granny, I care not, as I take spam seriously.

EDIT: Oh, and of course, Jebivjetar is also on par with Satalexton. But one can see he is merely imitating, merely attempting to get more accepted into the group. Satalexton is the leader - he has no excuse. Finally, inside the group spamming is encouraged to a degree that titles are handed out based on how much one spams. An initiation rite involves more spam. Spam, spam, spam.

Sad thing is, if those blokes actually cared about Hellenes, and knew much about them, but I bet I know more about the Greeks than 95% of those group members. And I am no Greek expert myself...

Centurio Nixalsverdrus

08-01-2009, 23:15

Vasiliyi

08-01-2009, 23:18

No, I was not saying you did that - I mean the other group members would say thins along those lines. Unlike some others, I have never seen you spam that way, but you do manage to insert others things at times.

Also, while I do certainly sound like a sour-faced disciplinarian/granny, I care not, as I take spam seriously.

EDIT: Oh, and of course, Jebivjetar is also on par with Satalexton. But one can see he is merely imitating, merely attempting to get more accepted into the group. Satalexton is the leader - he has no excuse. Finally, inside the group spamming is encouraged to a degree that titles are handed out based on how much one spams. An initiation rite involves more spam. Spam, spam, spam.

Sad thing is, if those blokes actually cared about Hellenes, and knew much about them, but I bet I know more about the Greeks than 95% of those group members. And I am no Greek expert myself...

Bah, you know little. First off, you were apart of the Romaioktonoi, were you not? What were you reasons for joining? I still remember your shameful exile. I voted for it.

Second, There are not titles being handed out for spamming. What would you know about initiation rites, you helot!

Id also like to say that were are not about Hellenes. Were about Hating Romans.

*******

Btw, id like to say that the Eb team did a wonderful job representing all cultures, including the Romans to a very historically accurate degree. I bow to your persistence in that.

a completely inoffensive name

08-01-2009, 23:57

Yeah, and spoil the fun for others :no:. Remember what Epicurus said? Pleasure to moderation and as long as it does no ill to others. Your group sort of violated the two tenets :sweatdrop:. The Romaioktonoi group is the single and only largest pest here. Why does every decent and non-decent thread have to be trashed with "Oooh, the Romaioi are so fluffing weak" "Ooooh, they suck so much lol" "Oooh, Hellenoi roxor so much"...

And hey, that is nothing is comparable to Satalexton spam, as he is truly a worthy successor to the past Meth-ACIN spam this sub-forum lived through. I mean, Methacin duo cleverly masked their spam, but Sata posts are pure rubbish.

It's nice to know me and Meth are still remembered as the best. These younger spammers, they have no class. It's too random with no style, instead of undermining the rules they disregard them completely. It makes me weep for days of old....

Krusader

08-02-2009, 00:31

Welcome to the forums.

Yeah its a harmless game of sorts played by a few forum patrons here. As long as it stays harmless and does not derail threads it will stay.

Regards to destroying other cultures and backstabbing treaties, that's a human thing, not Roman :beam:

Scrap that actually...should have taken a closer look.

Celtic_Punk

08-02-2009, 00:36

The romans destroyed my ancient ancestor's golden age and way of life. They were an oppressive state that tried to rule the world. much like nazi germany.

a completely inoffensive name

08-02-2009, 00:40

The romans destroyed my ancient ancestor's golden age and way of life. They were an oppressive state that tried to rule the world. much like nazi germany.

Yay! Godwin's law!!!

Apázlinemjó

08-02-2009, 00:40

Chill, this is the internet.

The internetzzz is a serious businessss.

Cute Wolf

08-02-2009, 00:53

I think the swagger has been thrown, and this thread will be a valid ground for Romaioktonoi and Philoromaios to battle... :laugh4:

PIKACHU APPROVED!!! (Originally I want to have PedoBear, but Pikachu seems cuter in anyway)
https://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss184/Cutewolf/BurnBarbaropolis.jpg

Aemilius Paulus

08-02-2009, 01:11

Wowowow. We fed you from the great bosom of our noble group, and that's the way you give it back to us. I was the first that questioned your loyalty, and I must say I feel kinda satisfied I was proven right.

Shame on you. But I guess a Romaioi fanboy will stay a Romaioi fanboy.
Of course. Why do you think I joined? Lol, I even VM-ed some other people I was infiltrating your group, and not merely joining.

PIKACHU APPROVED!!! (Originally I want to have PedoBear, but Pikachu seems cuter in anyway)

Heh, that was the only anti-Romani demotivator I approved. Great job, Cute Wolf :2thumbsup:!!

It's too random with no style, instead of undermining the rules they disregard them completely. It makes me weep for days of old....
How true :no::sad: No style at all, and random on top of that as well...

Bah, you know little. First off, you were apart of the Romaioktonoi, were you not? What were you reasons for joining? I still remember your shameful exile. I voted for it.
Lol wut? First off, I too voted for my own exile. I was an infiltrator and I got what I wanted. why would a Romani-fanboy and a anti-spammer the likes of me join the group?? Secondly, I stated over and over that I did not care if you blokes exiled me, and even encouraged it. I dare you to quote all my posts there :snobby:

Second, There are not titles being handed out for spamming. What would you know about initiation rites, you helot!
Hah, your nose must have broken the monitor by now! How do you move up the ladder? Spam forums with anti-Romaioi posts? What does a newbie do to be initiated? Spam again. What did you guys tell me to do when you grew suspicious of me? Tell me to spam in order to prove my loyalty. I can literally go there, and point out the sentences where so many memebrs said "you need to post anti-Romaioi barbaroi spam.

Id also like to say that were are not about Hellenes. Were about Hating Romans.

When the group began, it seemed more of "we hate the Romans but love the Hellenes". All posts were about Hellenes kicking Roman arse. But then it changed...

Centurio Nixalsverdrus

08-02-2009, 01:33

Aimilios, what do you want to prove?

bobbin

08-02-2009, 01:51

The romans destroyed my ancient ancestor's golden age and way of life. They were an oppressive state that tried to rule the world. much like nazi germany.

Your of irish decent aren't you? methinks the romans didn't do squat to your ancestors then.

A Very Super Market

08-02-2009, 01:58

What ACIN said. Spam should have class, and this lacks, oh so, much of it. Any idiot can just type "Death to Romans". Most of them wouldn't even call them "Romaioi", or come up with a proper name for themselves. Maion, I can respect for his efforts, but many of the underlings do nothing of value. I nearly exclusively play as the Hellenes, and I'm finding it annoying.

Aemilius Paulus

08-02-2009, 01:58

Aimilios, what do you want to prove?
Why nothing of course. It is simply my characteristic to leave no argument against me un-rebuked :yes:.

EDIT: Heh, and now we can make fun of the Romaioktonoi for mispronouncing "Rhomaioi" and "Rhomaioktonoi" :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

antisocialmunky

08-02-2009, 03:22

Romaioktonoiktonoi?

satalexton

08-02-2009, 03:40

Aimilios, I regret standing up for you when you were put on trial =[

Aemilius Paulus

08-02-2009, 03:51

Aimilios, I regret standing up for you when you were put on trial =[
I cannot believe you are so naive. You would think me telling the group that I vote against myself would FINALLY make the group understand why a Philoromaioi would join. But I guess the members of the Romaioktonoi are not that smart. Even some do write splendid poetry :beam:.

Cute Wolf

08-02-2009, 03:55

I cannot believe you are so naive. You would think me telling the group that I vote against myself would FINALLY make the group understand why a Philoromaioi would join. But I guess the members of the Romaioktonoi are not that smart. Even some do write splendid poetry :beam:.

It prove that u are really a Philoromaios, being deceptive, betraying trusts, and backstabbish!~:furious3:

Apraxiteles

08-02-2009, 04:12

A long time ago, on some tiny peninsulas right next to each other…

Hellenistic Wars
Episode I: The Barbarian Menace
Episode II: The Forum War
Episode III: Revenge of the Philoromaioi
Episode IV: A New Koinon
Episode V: The SPQR Strikes Back
Episode VI: Return of the Romaioktonoi

The complete collection, in all it's silly, glorious melodrama, coming soon soon to a forum thread near you!

Aemilius Paulus

08-02-2009, 04:30

It prove that u are really a Philoromaios, being deceptive, betraying trusts, and backstabbish!~:furious3:
All the partisan politics aside, I believe you should agree that the Romans were much more honest and straightforward people, or at least on a battlefield generally (politics are always dirty), than the less honourable Greeks.

Nothing bad here, just differences. The Greek culture placed more emphasis on cunning and intellect and less on honour. Hell, look at the Greek national epics - Odysseus the trickster with his Trojan horse, and him orally "swindling" Ajax the Greater from his armour, which he should have gotten.

EDIT: So yeah, if you call yourself true Hellene, then respect me for my cunning :snobby:

EDIT2: and be ashamed for believing, even for a moment, that I truly joined your group.

And actually, I would have stayed in the group if it were not the spamming affiliation. My respect for the Greeks is no smaller than that for the Romans, if not greater. Anyone can conquer, but few can create such a vibrant, intellectual and productive culture as that of the Greeks, with people such as Homer, Sophocles, Aeschylus, Euripides, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Zeno of Citium, Epicurus, Herodotus, etc, etc.

satalexton

08-02-2009, 04:40

Glory Glory Romaioktonoi!
Glory Glory Romaioktonoi!

From the forests of old,
Ancient Germanoi.
From the hills of Europa,
Noble Keltoi.

Descending from the moutains,
Rightous wrath.
True to their nature,
Barbaropolis they sack.

Illustrious coasts,
Savant Iberioi.
Lord of the seas,
Brave Karchedoi.

Long and hard they trek,
Avenging justice.
Honest to their fathers,
Burn Barbaropolis.

Fatherland of glory,
Vergina sun shines bright.
Sons of Alexandros,
All Hail Makeonia.

Truth and hope in fatherland.
Death to every foe!
Hellenes shall not put to rest,
Smite Barbaropolis.

Northern hills of Thrace,
Martial Getae.
Enternal plains from beyond,
Iron hooves of Sauromatae.

Defiant, no surrender.
Loyal to their blood.
Barbaroi deserve no mercy,
Enslave Barbaropolis.

Old Satrap of Black Sea,
Clever Pontikoi.
Mountans of Iberia,
Adventurous Hai.

Strenth in their souls,
Enduring freedom.
Never shall they retreat,
Dominate Barbaropolis.

Hinterlands near Serika,
Ardent Sakae.
Eastern lands of Scythia,
Conquering Aracids.

Apollo's arrows from above,
Divine Judgement.
The great charge of Glory,
Slaughter Barbaropolis!

Glory Glory Romaioktonoi!
Glory Glory Romaioktonoi!

Cute Wolf

08-02-2009, 04:47

All the partisan politics aside, I believe you should agree that the Romans were much more honest and straightforward people, or at least on a battlefield generally (politics are always dirty), than the less honourable Greeks.

Nothing bad here, just differences. The Greek culture placed more emphasis on cunning and intellect and less on honour. Hell, look at the Greek national epics - Odysseus the trickster with his Trojan horse, and him orally "swindling" Ajax the Greater from his armour, which he should have gotten.

EDIT: So yeah, if you call yourself true Hellene, then respect me for my cunning :snobby:

EDIT2: and be ashamed for believing, even for a moment, that I truly joined your group.

And actually, I would have stayed in the group if it were not the spamming affiliation. My respect for the Greeks is no smaller than that for the Romans, if not greater. Anyone can conquer, but few can create such a vibrant, intellectual and productive culture as that of the Greeks, with people such as Homer, Sophocles, Aeschylus, Euripides, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Zeno of Citium, Epicurus, Herodotus, etc, etc.

Well, AP... honestly, I think that one factor that you lack is Honesty and Openness. As u maybe had another tricks below your sleeve to take down your supposed to be "friends" when they least tought of betrayal. Well, actually Romaioktonoi was the very group that each member respects and had a good faith in each other, so, your case is extreme betrayal. It was noteworthy that Hellenes only use cunning for someone that we allready declares "Enemy" not "friend".

Aemilius Paulus

08-02-2009, 04:48

Sorry to say, but that is simply senseless mumbo-jumbo. Only a poet of significant skill can write a lengthy poem on such a frivolous and rather abstract (in poetry sense, which is sometimes reverse of common sense) subject.

Try to stick with you briefer prose and go for quality. Literature is never about quantity, unlike war among other things.

Aemilius Paulus

08-02-2009, 04:57

Well, AP... honestly, I think that one factor that you lack is Honesty and Openness.
True. That is not a Russian trait either, as Russians are quite closed on the personal level, and somewhat liberal on "sticking to the rules" on a higher level. But hey - "It is very painful for me to be forced to speak the truth. It is the first time in my life that I have ever been reduced to such a painful position, and I am really quite inexperienced in doing anything of the kind".

Honestly, given what I have seen the group do to the forums, "honesty" and "openness" was the last thing on my mind. If it even made that far. How about trying some decency, prudence, and polite, constructive behaviour on these forums?? Perhaps then I will re-evaluate my own actions, apologise, and reconcile.

It was noteworthy that Hellenes only use cunning for someone that we allready declares "Enemy" not "friend".
Go read your history. Nothing was permanently or even somewhat concretely "friend" or "enemy" in the political jungle of the hundreds of city states of Southern Greece, Peloponnese, Ionia, Megale Hellas, Pontos Euxeinos, etc. Especially the Southern Balkans and Western Asia Minor. Treachery abounded.

Megas Methuselah

08-02-2009, 04:59

Well, I'm just new to this forum, and get confused with some members who say they hate the Romani. :dizzy2: , well, actually i ask my friend who apparently also their group, and say they are the Roman haters. Now I want to ask... Why they hate the Romans?

EDIT: He says that he hate the Roman republic for destroying some other cultures and backstabbing their treaties, and they are the most overpowered faction in most games.

They're spammers who took over in the power vacuum the EB Tavern'ers left behind.