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Why do so many insist that yari ashigaru are banned from use in armies in online play? As I understand they tend to die most easily when faced agianst most other troops.
AggonyShim2
03-02-2003, 05:18
well...
1. Ashigaru are useless. Why WOULD you use them?
2. People used to use them in large amounts and put high honour and upgrade their weapons to full. (they are cheap and you can do this for hardly any koku)
3. Thus, the community started using large numbers of ashigaru for less. And there was no way to counter it.
4. We even made patches that made them more expensive and less powerful. But still they are used.
So more or less its sort of like the ashigaru are a 'glitch'. the only way they can get rid of this glitch is to take the whole unit out of the game (which i propose) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/idea.gif
agreed, ashis were the best koku for koku fighter in MI by a long way, which unfortunately upset the game balance ..
Hi,
No need to ban them, they can be dealt with (I don't use them, prefer yari sams).
Kansuke.
Orda Khan
03-02-2003, 21:37
All units can be dealt with can't they? The reason Ashi's were 'dicouraged' was the fact that beefed up for minimal expense a 'peasant' unit becomes capable of killing more expensive highly trained units. It becomes the strongest unit. If you are happy with this, fine.
Let's also remember that 'many' long time players used this as a rule so this not a whine from the minority.
At the very least Ashi's will inflict a lot of damage on better units http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif
Sorry but I think that's stupid. One good reason I switched to 103
........Orda
AggonyShim2
03-04-2003, 04:30
i still think we should just delete the ashigaru as a unit http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
dragonchi
03-13-2003, 15:53
I have had some players complaing about not been allowed ashi ..... they say "if no ashi, then no calvary" ...... they claim that they need the ashi to defeat the cav.
What do you think about this? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif
Dragonchi
P.S. yes ashi unit should be removed ...... actually as Orda said ...... why the heck are we still using 1.02 ..... when we have the option of using 1.03 ????? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pissed.gif
Orda Khan
03-13-2003, 18:26
In answer to your second question Mist... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif I know exactly how you feel. 103 is such a well balanced Mod for Japanese armies, it simply astounds me that most will not try it.
I won't go over old ground, you know how good it is, just a shame the foyer prefers a version that is flawed.
Maybe it's these flaws, or rather, exploiting these flaws that they are reluctant to give up.
Ashi's are not needed to counter cav as you know.....They actually meant to say ' I like using Ashi's to chase down cav and murder them http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif '
Jochi asked me once, what was so good about Ashi's, so I used them in a game so he could see for himself. Ask him how my little Linfords did against his cav....
In 103 there are no super units and team games are superb. MTW games last an hour or so in say a 4v4 but the game is slower. Our old 103 4v4 games lasted just as long........
....... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif I really do miss them http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif
I could quite easily quit MTW for a 103 Foyer
.....Orda
People who are depnedant on them, can be easily out selected with other unit choices, but if they want to play ashis go down to their level and out skill them.
ShinKamiizumi
03-17-2003, 23:36
I've never encountered anyone who would use ashigaru if I asked them not to.
I would like to start using the 1.03 patch and will encourage my fellow clanmates and online acquaintances to do so as well.
Will the StatSwapper change the stats without restarting the game? I know it won't change the version message when the game starts which is a nuisance.
Hi,
I agree with Lord Ted, its just annoying when you see ashi beating better units, but if you also counter with ashi's, its not so bad.
Was nice to hear that you were in MI this week Lord Ted, look forward to seeing you soon.
*Bows.
Kansuke.http://www.planetbaldursgate.com/allclasses/KensaiL.jpg
Orda Khan
03-18-2003, 19:49
Yes the swapper requires no restart of the game, simply alt/tab to desktop, swap stats and then back to foyer.
We always announced to the foyer that the game was 103 and then passworded it 103, that way avoiding dropped games
.......Orda
AggonyShim2
03-19-2003, 01:08
gay peasants
Quote[/b] ]gay peasants
What to you mean Shim? in the sense that they are happy little fellas? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/joker.gif
Kansuke.http://www.planetbaldursgate.com/allclasses/KensaiL.jpg
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