Glenn Beck takes scaremongering to a new low

[Sheogorath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWs12ccbOiE&feature=related

Uh-oh, guys, I went to totalwar.org and now Tosa owns my house!

Seriously, I mean, REALLY, it's time somebody flew to Glenn Beck's house and slapped him in the face.

For those about to leap to his defense, I present for your perusal:

http://www.snopes.com/computer/internet/clunkers.asp

That is, if you're not afraid that Snopes will take your house if you click that link.

[Tribesman]

Seriously, I mean, REALLY, it's time somebody flew to Glenn Beck's house and slapped him in the face.

Not at all, let the wingnut rant, its funny.
Its even funnier when people actually believe these conspiracy theories and attempt to use them as facts in discussions

[miotas]

Sounds like a good excuse if you get caught looking at porn, just say that a government agent was using you computer. :yes:

[Xiahou]

What's funny is that, as per snopes, the following actually was on their website until just over a week ago:
This application provides access to the DOT CARS system. When logged on to the CARS system, your computer is considered a federal computer system and it is property of the United States Government. Any or all uses of this system and all files on this system may be intercepted, monitored, recorded, copied, audited, inspected, and disclosed to authorized CARS, DOT, and law enforcement personnel, as well as authorized officials of other agencies, both domestic and foreign. That has to be the worst written, most draconian ToS ever written.

At least Google Chrome's original ToS only gave them ownership of what you submitted via the browser, not the entire contents of your PC. In both cases, the ToS has since been amended.

Thanks for pointing it out, Sheogorath. As usual, Beck glosses over most of the important details(eg: it only applied to the dealer section the site), but it's amazing to note that at the that show ran, the text he quoted was in fact there. I've gotta say, I think he's gone lower before- this actually had a kernel of truth to it.

[HoreTore]

What's funny is that, as per snopes, the following actually was on their website until just over a week ago:That has to be the worst written, most draconian ToS ever written.

At least Google Chrome's original ToS only gave them ownership of what you submitted via the browser, not the entire contents of your PC. In both cases, the ToS has since been amended.

Oh come on.

iTunes' ToS specifies that the program cannot be used to create chemical, biological or nuclear weapons. This is basically the same.

Nonsnense nobody thought about, and nobody thinks about. Way too much copy-paste going around in ToS's for them to make any sense whatsoever.


This is ridiculous, ignorant and utterly useless scaremongering.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Oh come on.

iTunes' ToS specifies that the program cannot be used to create chemical, biological or nuclear weapons. This is basically the same.

Um...No, it is not. This is the government saying they can spy on every file you have and everything you do while you are logged, and audit every file and action and turn information over to whoever they please. So every car dealer had to agree to let the Fed completely into their computers in order to participate in this program.


Nonsnense nobody thought about, and nobody thinks about.
...
This is ridiculous, ignorant and utterly useless scaremongering.

Maybe you ought to go read my posts about the Federal government and how it likes to screw you the **** over. Trust me, they obviously thought about this. (Though Glenn Beck was scaremongering)

CR

[Husar]

The girl looks nice. :juggle2:

Otherwise it's Fox isn't it, as Tribesman said it's funny.

[HoreTore]

Um...No, it is not. This is the government saying they can spy on every file you have and everything you do while you are logged, and audit every file and action and turn information over to whoever they please. So every car dealer had to agree to let the Fed completely into their computers in order to participate in this program.

Uhm, no.

This is a case of a copy-paste nonsense ToS, which nobody, least of all anyone in government, knows what says. Just like nobody at Apple knew what they wrote in their iTunes ToS.

[Sheogorath]

Copy-paste it is. I've done some volunteer work in a national park, and, wouldn't you know it, the disclaimer there is EXACTLY the same as what you have to click through when you log on to one of their computers.

So basically some idiot in the department got lazy and figured it wouldn't be a big deal.

The government MIGHT take advantage of it, but I seriously doubt they're going to go around seizing car dealers computers and peoples pornography so they can sell it to the Russians as Beck is trying to imply.

I'm going to call honest mistake, or simple stupidity. Either way, they take down the disclaimer, no harm, no foul.


As to Fox and Beck, it WOULD be funny if so many people didn't take them seriously.

[Husar]

As to Fox and Beck, it WOULD be funny if so many people didn't take them seriously.

That only makes it funnier, but a lot of people are weird anyway. Look at EndTimeWatchman (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwxbAO_px1M) for example.
(Warning: might scare you if you belong to the New World Order or happen to be the anti-christ)

[miotas]

Fox "News" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPr5IPRhiZ4), pure class.


That only makes it funnier, but a lot of people are weird anyway. Look at EndTimeWatchman (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwxbAO_px1M) for example.
(Warning: might scare you if you belong to the New World Order or happen to be the anti-christ)

Ha ha, nice one. I still don't know who he was talking about though, and somehow I don't quite think he did either.:smash:

[Sheogorath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9JE5SBm9UU

Even Shepard Smith doesn't like Glenn Beck.

Of course, Shepard Smith is pretty much the closest Fox gets to real reporting...
'Fear chamber', he really hit the nail on the head there.

[Brenus]

Hi hi hi. Fox just realise that the Federal Government can spy on citizen and it is legal... What news... Er, why and when the FBI was created? And the NSA?
Fox should read the US budget; it is full of things interesting for journalists…
:beam::laugh4:

[Ironside]

Hi hi hi. Fox just realise that the Federal Government can spy on citizen and it is legal... What news... Er, why and when the FBI was created? And the NSA?
Fox should read the US budget; it is full of things interesting for journalists…
:beam::laugh4:

See it from the bright side. They have started to be more courteous about it, now they ask before they access it.
Carnivore, NarusInsight, ECHELON etc rings any bells, Glenn Beck? Not that he ever would read this comment.

[Centurion1]

i guess i will ave to be one of the few people on this website to agree with crazy rabbit.

While i don't personally like Glen Beck (he makes normal conservatives look stupid), i have to say your accusations of Fox make me laugh.

First of all the news networks you all probably watch like CBS, NBC, etc. (don't know about our European compatriots) are all far left. Fox seems crazy to you because all you listen and read are left who are in love with obama and the democratic party. NBC doesn't make me laugh, all there bull just makes me sick because i know how many people blindly believe what the media tells them. This is the pot calling the kettle black

[Tribesman]

Um...No, it is not. This is the government saying they can spy on every file you have and everything you do while you are logged, and audit every file and action and turn information over to whoever they please.
No it doesn't, not in the slightest, read the legislation.
This is just another version of the scare story about the government asking people to forward the chain-e-mails regarding healthcare .
Its all a pile of bollox , read the damn legislation.

[Xiahou]

No it doesn't, not in the slightest, read the legislation.
This is just another version of the scare story about the government asking people to forward the chain-e-mails regarding healthcare .
Its all a pile of bollox , read the damn legislation.
No one is even talking about any legislation, so I'm not really sure what you're on about. (as usual)


Oh come on.

iTunes' ToS specifies that the program cannot be used to create chemical, biological or nuclear weapons. This is basically the same.

Nonsnense nobody thought about, and nobody thinks about. Way too much copy-paste going around in ToS's for them to make any sense whatsoever.


This is ridiculous, ignorant and utterly useless scaremongering. It's like you're note even replying to my post. You quoted it, so I assume you read it... yet you address nothing I said. Is it not draconian? Did they not amend it? I'd just like to know what part of my post got your panties in such a twist. I don't remember typing "Oh noes, the government is in mah computer, stealin mah filez!" or anything like that. :shrug:

[Hooahguy]

Sounds like a good excuse if you get caught looking at porn, just say that a government agent was using you computer. :yes:
agreed!

[Tribesman]

No one is even talking about any legislation,
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

so I'm not really sure what you're on about. (as usual)

Thats OK ,you're on the same page as Glenn Beck then as he hasn't got the faintest idea what the subject is either.

But OK try and work it out .
Take this

This is the government saying they can spy on every file you have and everything you do while you are logged, and audit every file and action and turn information over to whoever they please.
and work your way through the link in the opening post to find why that statement is absolute bollox....
its all in the legislation .:yes:

[Xiahou]

That was in the Terms of Service. You're the only one talking about legislation. Terms of Service does not mean legislation- they're not even remotely related. Learn the difference, then try to troll. :yes:

[Tribesman]

That was in the Terms of Service. You're the only one talking about legislation. Terms of Service does not mean legislation- they're not even remotely related. Learn the difference, then try to troll.
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
Reading probems eh ?
The data collection which is the terms of service aspect that is getting wingnuts in a fit is thoroughly covered by legislation, its all in the link.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Sounds like a good excuse if you get caught looking at porn, just say that a government agent was using you computer. :yes:

There should be no reason what so ever for getting caught looking at porn. Just follow two steps and you are good forever:

1. Turn private browsing on (or something similar if you don't have Firefox).

2. Alt+F4. Learn it, use it when necessary.

EDIT: To make this somewhat on topic I just want to point out to HoreTore and Crazed Rabbit and all the others arguing that any correct answer must be either solely on the left or the right, nothing in this world is ever in the middle and for that I want to thank you guys for keeping up the good work.

[HoreTore]

It's like you're note even replying to my post. You quoted it, so I assume you read it... yet you address nothing I said. Is it not draconian? Did they not amend it? I'd just like to know what part of my post got your panties in such a twist. I don't remember typing "Oh noes, the government is in mah computer, stealin mah filez!" or anything like that. :shrug:

It's not draconian. Why? Because nobody would actually do anything with their "allowance", nobody even knew it was there. If there was a plan to do something with it, then yes; it would be draconian. But since nobody will, it isn't. It's just an error.


And that's without considering that the statement itself isn't valid. If the government was, you know, actually trying to oppress and such, and that this was intentional, don't you think they would've made a ToS that was actually legally valid...?


EDIT: To make this somewhat on topic I just want to point out to HoreTore and Crazed Rabbit and all the others arguing that any correct answer must be either solely on the left or the right, nothing in this world is ever in the middle and for that I want to thank you guys for keeping up the good work.

Hm? I live in Norway, remember, we're not a two-party state, there are actually 3 whole parties who make up our "middle".... That's actually more parties than there are on the left and right... As for the US situation, you've got no "left", both your parties belong on the right ~;) So.... seeing as this is about the US.... And the US has no left.... Just how could I be arguing that anything is left...?

[a completely inoffensive name]

Hm? I live in Norway, remember, we're not a two-party state, there are actually 3 whole parties who make up our "middle".... That's actually more parties than there are on the left and right... As for the US situation, you've got no "left", both your parties belong on the right ~;) So.... seeing as this is about the US.... And the US has no left.... Just how could I be arguing that anything is left...?

It was just a facetious comment based on the observation that you HoreTore (and others) are a man on the left, Crazed Rabbit (and others) is a man on the right, and no one seemed to be able to willfully concede anything to the other side. I don't know why you are bring up the fact you are in Norway which has more parties etc. Just because this is an American issue and America has no left party doesn't mean that you (a self proclaimed socialist) suddenly are labeled as right when participating in an issue in America.

[Tribesman]

It's not draconian. Why? Because nobody would actually do anything with their "allowance", nobody even knew it was there.
Wrong answer . It's not draconian because people should know that is there and what it actually means, they should also know what can and cannot be done with it.

[Husar]

Ha ha, nice one. I still don't know who he was talking about though, and somehow I don't quite think he did either.:smash:

I'm relatively sure he's talking about Obama, mainly because most of his other videos are about Obama as well and how he's prepared to fight back Obama's New World Order when they come to get him/take away his guns.
oh and it's not the only video of it's kind that I found around the Obama elections etc., one guy almost had a nervous breakdown because Obama would take away his guns etc.
You'd think the world should have ended by now.

[Sheogorath]

I'm relatively sure he's talking about Obama, mainly because most of his other videos are about Obama as well and how he's prepared to fight back Obama's New World Order when they come to get him/take away his guns.
oh and it's not the only video of it's kind that I found around the Obama elections etc., one guy almost had a nervous breakdown because Obama would take away his guns etc.
You'd think the world should have ended by now.

He's taking away our guns, our healthcare and now he's INFILTRATING OUR COMPUTERZ TO STEAL OUR PORNS! OH NOEZ!

[Xiahou]

The EFF has page up on the issue (http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/08/cars-gov-terms-service).
There's an entertaining clip from Glenn Beck's Fox News program making the rounds on the Internet lately, featuring this language from the Terms of Service for the "Cash for Clunkers" program:

This application provides access to the [Department of Transportation] DoT CARS system. When logged on to the CARS system, your computer is considered a Federal computer system and is the property of the U.S. Government. Any or all uses of this system and all files on this system may be intercepted, monitored, recorded, copied, audited, inspected, and disclosed... to authorized CARS, DoT, and law enforcement personnel, as well as authorized officials of other agencies, both domestic and foreign.

While this language was accessible only by registered dealers, and not the public (and has apparently now been removed), it nevertheless is a shocking example of the kind of problems that can come with click-through agreements written by faceless lawyers and basically imposed on the rest of us. No one should ever try to force you to "agree" that accessing a government website turns your computer into a government computer or gives up your privacy rights in the other contents of your computer.

This hopefully careless language demonstrates the concerns that EFF has long raised about the creeping reduction in user privacy and rights online that we see through various means, including terms of service, cookies and even the “phone home” nature of some of our devices like the Amazon Kindle. This sort of contracting away of our privacy and rights is bad enough when companies do it — it should be off limits for government.

Unfortunately, the commentary of Fox anchor Kimberly Guilfoyle was also wrong about the scope of the privacy issues:

They are jumping right inside you, seizing all of your personal and private information, and absolutely legal, Glenn, they can do it... They can continue to track you, basically forever, once they've tapped into your system, the government of course has, like, malware systems, and tracking cookies, and they can tap in any time they want.

Clicking "continue" on a poorly worded Terms of Service on a government site will not give the government the ability to "tap into your system... any time they want." The seizure of the personal and private information stored on your computer through a one-sided click-through terms of service is not “conscionable” as lawyers say, and would not be enforceable even if the cars.gov website was capable of doing it, which we seriously doubt. Moreover, the law has long forbidden the government from requiring you to give up unrelated constitutional rights (here the 4th Amendment right to be free from search and seizure) as a condition of receiving discretionary government benefits like participation in the Cars for Clunkers program.

The problems with overreaching terms of service are real, and EFF has been working hard to combat them, especially when your privacy is at stake. Companies and government departments repeatedly sow the seeds of confusion, concern and outrage when they sneak catch-all terms into the small print. Our ToSBack site tracks these agreements and allows the public to find out what they say and track their changes over time. But terms of service agreements don’t go as far as allowing the government ongoing, free range into your personal computer with a single mouse click. At least not yet

[Tribesman]

The EFF has page up on the issue.
Well done Xiahou after moaning that no one else had mentioned legislation you come up with a link about

the law
Though I have to ask, do you know which legislation is the law in this matter yet?
It's quite a hard question as the answer is in the first post in this topic

[Xiahou]

Well done Xiahou after moaning that no one else had mentioned legislation you come up with a link about

Though I have to ask, do you know which legislation is the law in this matter yet?
It's quite a hard question as the answer is in the first post in this topicYou're really making yourself look pretty desperate, old bean. "the law" only appears in one sentence in that page and the accompanying link is to a court decision. Still no legislation to be found. Go find some different lures- these aren't woking. :dizzy2:

[HoreTore]

The EFF has page up on the issue (http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/08/cars-gov-terms-service).

Thanks for digging up a link to confirm what I said about Glenn Beck talking rubbish :2thumbsup:

The only thing he got "right", was that it's a problem that private companies have unreasonable ToS agreements... I use quotation marks of course, as he didn't actually say that, in fact everything he did say was utter garbage... But hey, I'm a reasonable man, I'll let him have a penny :yes:


It was just a facetious comment based on the observation that you HoreTore (and others) are a man on the left, Crazed Rabbit (and others) is a man on the right, and no one seemed to be able to willfully concede anything to the other side.

That would only be true in this case if being clueless about technology and law is a trademark of the right...

[a completely inoffensive name]

That would only be true in this case if being clueless about technology and law is a trademark of the right...

You stay classy San Diego.

[Tribesman]

You're really making yourself look pretty desperate, old bean. "the law" only appears in one sentence in that page and the accompanying link is to a court decision. Still no legislation to be found.
Still having reading problems eh Xiahou:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
BTW you link is to case law. That particular example is involving education law , employment law , civil service law and privacy law .
Which of those laws is also in the opening post?

[HoreTore]

You stay classy San Diego.

In case you misunderstood me....

I'm not whining about "Glenn Beck", I have no idea who he is. Apart from Jon Stewart and Bill O'Reilly, I don't know any american talking head. What I'm whining about, however, is an idiot who is completely unable to understood neither technology or law. And I won't ever "concede" anything at all to a technological imbecile. That he belongs to the right is irrelevant to me, what matters is that he's clueless.

To prove my point, I'd like to point out that when a "facebook group"* demanding an immediate ceasefire during the last gaza action was hacked by some "evil israeli government 1337-hackers"(in reality it was JIDF), I spent my evening alternating between slapping my forehead and crying....


*I cry everytime I hear that phrase in the media...

[a completely inoffensive name]

In case you misunderstood me....

I'm not whining about "Glenn Beck", I have no idea who he is. Apart from Jon Stewart and Bill O'Reilly, I don't know any american talking head. What I'm whining about, however, is an idiot who is completely unable to understood neither technology or law. And I won't ever "concede" anything at all to a technological imbecile. That he belongs to the right is irrelevant to me, what matters is that he's clueless.

To prove my point, I'd like to point out that when a "facebook group"* demanding an immediate ceasefire during the last gaza action was hacked by some "evil israeli government 1337-hackers"(in reality it was JIDF), I spent my evening alternating between slapping my forehead and crying....


*I cry everytime I hear that phrase in the media...

What do your friends say when you go out at night after crying and slapping yourself all evening?

[Lemur]

Well, it appears that certain levels of demagoguery and hatemongering are actually bad for business (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/advertisers-deserting-fox-news-glenn-beck-2009-08-14?pagenumber=1). Who knew?


In what is shaping up to be one of the more effective boycott campaigns in years, advertisers are abandoning the "Glenn Beck" show on Fox News following the host's incendiary comments that President Barack Obama is a "racist" and has a "deep-seated hatred for white people."

Among the advertisers to pull spots from the popular cable talk show are Geico, owned by Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway; Procter & Gamble ; Sargento Cheese; and Progressive Insurance , according to the companies and Color of Change, one group that is organizing a campaign against the program. [...]

For advertisers, "the halo of the show means you are connected with supporting that point of view," said John Greening, a Northwestern University professor of marketing who spent 28 years in the advertising business. "It is not about awareness but about association."

"Beck's demagoguery crossed the line of the socially expected taste level, and I can't think of a company on the planet who wants to be a part of that conversation," Greening said. "It is a no-brainer to pull your ads."

Whether the show can survive with advertisers deserting it depends on whether they can replaced and how much money Fox News is prepared to lose before pulling the plug.

It also, Greening said, "depends on Beck's level of contrition or how he explains it. But unless he does something to rehabilitate himself, he has probably crossed the line into obscurity."

Note that Wal-mart also pulled its ads this week.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Well, it appears that certain levels of demagoguery and hatemongering are actually bad for business (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/advertisers-deserting-fox-news-glenn-beck-2009-08-14?pagenumber=1). Who knew?

In what is shaping up to be one of the more effective boycott campaigns in years, advertisers are abandoning the "Glenn Beck" show on Fox News following the host's incendiary comments that President Barack Obama is a "racist" and has a "deep-seated hatred for white people."

Among the advertisers to pull spots from the popular cable talk show are Geico, owned by Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway; Procter & Gamble ; Sargento Cheese; and Progressive Insurance , according to the companies and Color of Change, one group that is organizing a campaign against the program. [...]

For advertisers, "the halo of the show means you are connected with supporting that point of view," said John Greening, a Northwestern University professor of marketing who spent 28 years in the advertising business. "It is not about awareness but about association."

"Beck's demagoguery crossed the line of the socially expected taste level, and I can't think of a company on the planet who wants to be a part of that conversation," Greening said. "It is a no-brainer to pull your ads."

Whether the show can survive with advertisers deserting it depends on whether they can replaced and how much money Fox News is prepared to lose before pulling the plug.

It also, Greening said, "depends on Beck's level of contrition or how he explains it. But unless he does something to rehabilitate himself, he has probably crossed the line into obscurity."
Note that Wal-mart also pulled its ads this week.


Beck is the worst thing to happen to Fox News. O'reilly is a stupid jerk, but Beck has emotional problems. He seriously embarasses me.

I do agree that people should carry guns in public, though.

[Mooks]

If Beck gets fired and becomes a washout no-body, will that have any effect on the rest of the conservative talk-heads to to act a little less crazy?

[miotas]

Just give the crazy man a radio show to vent on, and forget that he was ever on tele.

[Lemur]

Fox keeps releasing statements about how none of this affects their bottom line, but I have to imagine that having a whole lotta direct-response bargain-basement ads on their highest-rated show is gonna hit the pocketbook. The tally is now 46 advertisers (http://www.brandweek.com/bw/content_display/news-and-features/packaged-goods/e3ib0fae5881b7d2918e23654272b90b51a):


More advertisers have pulled out of Fox News’ Glenn Beck Program, bringing the tally to 46, according to the watchdog group Color of Change.

The list includes Applebee’s, Bank of America, Bell & Howell, DirecTV, General Mills, Kraft, Regions Financial Corporation, SAM (Store and Move), Travelers Insurance and Vonage, per to the group's press release. Travelers Insurance, Bell & Howell and DirecTV were already on a “do not air” list for the show, though their ads appeared during the show anyway, per the release.

According to Fox News Channel's rep, however, Bank of America never advertised on the Glenn Beck Program, and Bell & Howell is not a Fox advertiser. The rep didn't give further details, but provided a statement: "The advertisers referenced have all moved their spots from Beck to other programs on the network so there has been no revenue lost."

Interestingly, UPS has decided to yank its ads from all 24-hour cable news. Every article I'm seeing just mentions them leaving Fox, but I feel certain that I read somewhere that they're expanding this to MSNBC and CNN as well. Good for them! Down with the chattering head channels!

[Centurion1]

Interestingly, UPS has decided to yank its ads from all 24-hour cable news. Every article I'm seeing just mentions them leaving Fox, but I feel certain that I read somewhere that they're expanding this to MSNBC and CNN as well. Good for them! Down with the chattering head channels!

amen, it is not news anymore it is just people interrupting and giving their unwanted opinions.


I dislike glenn beck for one reason. As a conservative he makes me look bad. i hope everyone does know that we are all not as crazy as he is.......

[Askthepizzaguy]

I dislike glenn beck for one reason. As a conservative he makes me look bad. i hope everyone does know that we are all not as crazy as he is.......

It's not even a question of conservative politics. One could agree with every single one of Beck's stances on policy and still consider his rhetoric divisive, inflammatory, and ludicrous. It's certainly possible to disagree with the President and the Democrats without making a hind end out of oneself, Beck has just chosen to be the political equivalent of Jerry Springer. I'd never mistake Glenn Beck as the voice of modern conservatism... just the voice of Glenn Beck and his fans.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

It's not even a question of conservative politics. One could agree with every single one of Beck's stances on policy and still consider his rhetoric divisive, inflammatory, and ludicrous. It's certainly possible to disagree with the President and the Democrats without making a hind end out of oneself, Beck has just chosen to be the political equivalent of Jerry Springer. I'd never mistake Glenn Beck as the voice of modern conservatism... just the voice of Glenn Beck and his fans.

Exactly. I agree with some of the same things he believes in (like the general idea that government should be small and other basic conservative and libertarian ideas), but I can't stand his voice. Even when he has good points, which happens of course, they get lost in a sea of something.

That being said, he isn't stupid. Look at the money he's making.

[Centurion1]

I agree with much of what he is saying. that isn't the problem for me, i hate how he delivers it. He makes his point seem weak by being a fool and acting so idiotically.

[Xiahou]

I agree with much of what he is saying. that isn't the problem for me, i hate how he delivers it. He makes his point seem weak by being a fool and acting so idiotically.I can't even stand to listen to him long enough to determine if I agree with him or not. I supposed sometime I should watch, just as an academic exercise, but from what snippets I've seen it's like I can feel my IQ dropping while listening to him. :help:

Regardless, I still doubt that this is a new low for Beck. I'm sure he's gone much lower (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQc_TH4iVV8) than this before. I think he actually makes O'Reilly and Hannity look dignified by comparison... :smash:

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I can't even stand to listen to him long enough to determine if I agree with him or not.

Neither can I. I read his book before I'd ever heard him speak. After hearing him speak I wondered if someone edited for him, or if he's just OK without a recording device in the vicinity.

[KukriKhan]

Beck is a salesman, and a pretty good one. He has sold music, books, magazines, radio ads... At the moment, he sells: outrage, alienation, siege mentalities and conspiracy theories.

Business is good.

By 2013, he'll be selling soap or used cars.

[Centurion1]

By 2013, he'll be selling soap or used cars.

no there is always somewhere for people like that. on both sides of the political equation.....

[Lemur]

These clips kill me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szlLM5lCNJg).

[Monk]

These clips kill me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szlLM5lCNJg).

I wanted to watch the entire link before commenting. I actually wish I hadn't since it gave me a headache.



Beck is a salesman, and a pretty good one. He has sold music, books, magazines, radio ads... At the moment, he sells: outrage, alienation, siege mentalities and conspiracy theories.

Business is good.

By 2013, he'll be selling soap or used cars.

Too good for him, I say.

[Xiahou]

These clips kill me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szlLM5lCNJg).
:laugh4:
He should collaborate with Dan Brown on a book. They could call it "The Beck Code" or something.... :clown:

Lemur, I think this clip (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTFwAxfHgSA) should be required viewing after watching the one you linked. :2thumbsup:

[aimlesswanderer]

This is a yet another great example of his towering intelligence and ingrish ability.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo5Sm9poKTw

[Ronin]

These clips kill me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szlLM5lCNJg).


You can actually hear the fuses blowing in his brain..

is there no law in the US against mentally unstable people on TV?:laugh4:

[Meneldil]

Scary stuff. A shame for reason and the western world as a whole.

[Tribesman]

is there no law in the US against mentally unstable people on TV?
Why should there be . Over in Britain they have that Big Brother thing where idiots make fools of themselves on TV . In America they have FOXnews.
I suppose the only difference is the paycheck.

[KukriKhan]

You can actually hear the fuses blowing in his brain..

Ha! :) I wonder how much duct tape his poor wife has to use each night to keep his brains tucked back into his skull.

[Tribesman]

I wonder how much duct tape his poor wife has to use each night to keep his brains tucked back into his skull.

She gave up on the duct tape years ago, now we see the results.

[Lemur]

I was wondering when he would feel the need to kill animals on live TV (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9nVpO1Dvfk). The next logical step, really.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Apparently he said the frog was fake after the clip ends.

I approve of annoying PETA :beam:

[Askthepizzaguy]

I was wondering when he would feel the need to kill animals on live TV (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9nVpO1Dvfk). The next logical step, really.

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Speechless.


Apparently he said the frog was fake after the clip ends.

I approve of annoying PETA :beam:

Yeah, it's more the insane things he says that bothers me. Frogs die all the time. This guys mind is warped.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I was wondering when he would feel the need to kill animals on live TV (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9nVpO1Dvfk). The next logical step, really.

That's pretty funny, actually.

CR

[Lemur]

That's pretty funny, actually.
His double-take was pure comedy gold.

Here's another hilariously uncomfortable three minutes of video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKZ1qbDyKOM).