Football Manager 2010 [Archive]

johnhughthom

08-17-2009, 01:38

Would these problems occur with boxed versions of the game?

And I didn't have FM09 so please elaborate on this frustration.

Basically I'm a compulsive uninstall/reinstaller and softanchor doesn't seem to like this. Apparently there are ways round it, but they aren't working for me. Generally I'm OK with copy-protection (though the methods rarely make sense) but I do get annoyed when I buy something and am told I can only install it so often.

To be honest the main reason for my annoyance is the fact I bought it on Steam, so surely Steam knows my copy is OK? I don't understand why they forced people to use Steam,then put on another form of copy-protection.

pevergreen

08-17-2009, 02:53

there's women at my door who want to be given some attention. :sweatdrop:

Lies.

Sounds like a fun game, I saw a copy cheap and was thinking about picking it up.

Is it fun?

Craterus

08-17-2009, 03:46

Depends what you want from a game. The A-League is supported and if you're a fan you might enjoy it. If you see an earlier version going cheap, you might as well try it.

Sarmatian

10-16-2009, 11:48

The demo's out. I've tried the "vanilla" (only English quickstart, "strawberry" includes all major leagues) and it looks great.

It's much more straightforward thab FM 2009, where many players, especially inexperienced ones, were overwhelmed.

Now, you can set up the way you want your team to play really easy and the game will make slider changes accordingly. Of course, player can still change them manually for some extra fine-tuning.

3d match engine looks better, the game looks more fluid and real. Also, based on my limited play, this version seems to be most bug-free in a long time.

It seems this will be one of the best versions of FM.

Boxed version will only have a dvd-check, no securom and similar heavy DRM, but it means you'll have to keep DVD in drive all the time. Alternatively, you may activate it on steam.

Boohugh

10-16-2009, 12:12

I got the demo on Steam yesterday and gave it a try, but only played 1 match so far. Seems ok, just a bit weird getting used to where all the info is (I still occassionally play 2008 which is laid out slightly differently) but not much seems to have changed overall from the older versions other than the addition of the 3d match engine. From the looks of it, 2010 is just going to be a polished version of 2009 (which I didn't bother getting as I'd heard it was fairly buggy) as they've had a year to get the 3d engine working better and iron out any kinks.

I may end up getting it but I'll probably give the demo a little more time before I make any final decision. I have to admit that I didn't really like the tactics editor that much, although I suppose it's good to get you started and you can fine-tune your tactics from there, but perhaps it will grow on me as I use it more. I do think it'll play a little slower than previous versions (it's been an on-going trait as the series has worn on, not something I'm too keen on) unless you choose to ignore all the media stuff, etc. The 3d match engine also makes me want to watch the entire match now for some reason, rather than just the key moments, and at a slower speed which will also slow down the whole game experience.

Sarmatian

10-16-2009, 12:58

The match engine is definitely better optimized. I've tried it on the same computer I've played FM2009 and it ran better, even though the graphics are better and you can see the stands and the fans on them.

Yeah, in FM 2009 (and 2010 of course) it'll take longer to complete a season than with older versions but it's more satisfying, imho. I used to read commentary only, even when they introduced 2d match engine but when they switched to 3d I immediately liked it, even if was a bit quirky sometimes. This 3d engine looks great on the other hands. In a few matches I've played I didn't notice anything really weird and it was easier to get my team to actually do what I want them to do.

edyzmedieval

10-16-2009, 22:10

Good thing FM2010 is good and polished, because it's going to be my last one. Girls are awash with my looks, and FM doesn't help my situation.

:mellow:

Craterus

10-17-2009, 02:52

Downloaded the demo, haven't played yet.

edyz, it's not hard to juggle both if you're really committed to the cause... :juggle:

Sarmatian

10-17-2009, 03:54

Any girl not willing to deal with FM is not worth your time. :laugh4:

Craterus

10-18-2009, 01:11

Going from FM08 to this, I feel pretty bombarded with information. I didn't know where to start so I got scared and quit. How vital is all this 'meeting the staff' and so on. It just confused me.

Sarmatian

10-18-2009, 02:47

Not really. It's just an easy way to get the breakdown info about your team, like how good is the team's passing ability compared to the rest of the league, which players are good choices for penalty takers and so on.

The mechanics underneath are pretty much unchanged from 2009. Can't remember 2008, I think I've just played the demo on that one, but it can't be really that much different. If you're an experienced FM player, you should be able to catch up pretty quickly.

Craterus

10-18-2009, 02:59

I'll get there (probably going to load it up now), it's just a bit daunting...

naut

10-18-2009, 07:02

Looks good. DRM is a DVD in drive style thingy. So that's fine. Looking forward to trying the 3d engine.

3d thingy is cool, but, uh, not very polished to say the least. The interface is a lot nicer, I prefer it to the older layout. But, it feels like they haven't updated the database. All in all I do like it.

Jolt

10-18-2009, 15:40

My first great find. Marco Verratti, from Pescara (I think)

EDIT: https://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7214/95486602.png

johnhughthom

10-18-2009, 15:55

550 000 Euros! Bargain.:yes: Is he going in your first team?

Sarmatian

10-18-2009, 19:00

Nice find, but still lacks several key attributes for a AM in my book. Depends how much he can improve.

LeftEyeNine

10-20-2009, 10:55

Decisions - 8. Thumbsdown :///

Jolt

10-20-2009, 13:28

Nice find, but still lacks several key attributes for a AM in my book. Depends how much he can improve.

Don't forget, that in Portuguese. And the attributes are alphebetized according to it. For instance "Cabeceamento" (the first one) is Heading.

naut

10-22-2009, 07:45

Changed my mind. I don't like it. Well at least not until the data editor is released.

johnhughthom

10-31-2009, 02:47

Isn't PC gaming just a joy? MY graphics card (Radeon HD 4650) which can play Empire at pretty high graphic settings and just let me play Risen with everything maxed has decided that FM 10 is much too difficult for it to play. I can't finish a match without my drivers stopping responding. So I have had to put my trusty old Radeon X1300 back in to play. :wall:

It's worth it though, I can't believe all the reviews are saying same old, same old. It's the most refreshing FM for quite a while, the new tactical set up is great and there are so many new little features to find. Loving it so far, now to finally finish that trip to Fleetwood... :beam:

Boohugh

11-01-2009, 11:40

May sound obvious (and sorry if you tried it already!), but did you try updating your graphics drivers?

Personally, I'm not going to even consider getting it until a certain bug is fixed that I've read about. It's not really game-breaking, but it's enough of an annoyance to put me off getting the game. I'll put the details in spoilers in case you don't want to know about it, because it's a case where if you don't know about it you can play just fine without really noticing, but if you do know it will really bug you!

Basically, when you finish a match every player on the pitch gets a rise of 9-12% in their condition, but any players you sub off don't! This makes the whole idea of taking players off to rest them for the next match pointless as they'll be more tired than the ones you leave on. Until they fix that bug (the subbed players should get the bonus too) then match substitutions, a fairly major part of the game I'm sure you'll agree, are basically pointless unless you get an injury and knowing about it somewhat ruins the immersion for me.

I'd be interested to hear what anyone else playing the game thinks though. What are your favourite features? What is the pacing like compared with older versions? Stuff like that :2thumbsup:.

Edit: And no, the bug wasn't fixed in Update 1 released yesterday :no:

johnhughthom

11-02-2009, 02:41

That's a pretty shocking bug, have SI said anything about it, couldn't find anything on their forum and they are usually pretty upfront about things like that.

Boohugh

11-02-2009, 11:07

They stayed silent in most of the threads about it (apparently it was present throughout the whole of FM2009 too, despite being aware of it the whole time), however I did find one thread a couple of days ago where they replied that they would try to get it looked at in the next patch as a priority and were sorry they didn't make it a priority in Patch 1.

naut

11-11-2009, 08:30

Pretty good player I found:

https://img291.imageshack.us/img291/158/decentt.jpg

Checked the editor and he has bags of potential. Hard to get though outside of Korea or in countries with foreign player limits.

Craterus

11-12-2009, 02:06

What was his potential?

naut

11-12-2009, 08:21

-9. So pretty good.

naut

11-16-2009, 14:52

Is it just me or is FM10 so much harder than 08 was?

Craterus

11-17-2009, 00:04

Only got the demo and only played a few games (W2L2, friendlies) so I can't comment.

I've heard target men are worth having though; little and large partnerships supposedly work well. I imagine that once you've found a tactic that works and built up some consistency, it'll all fall into place.

Also, I reverted my tactics to the classic (slider) system. Not a fan of the touchline instructions or any of that stuff. :sad: I would have settled for FM2008 with updated squads and teams to be honest. A lot of the new features are going to take some getting used to.

edyzmedieval

11-17-2009, 23:19

AggonyDuck

11-18-2009, 00:19

There really were really two reasons why tactics suddenly stopped working in previous versions:
-Teams started playing more defensively against you, which reduced the efficiency of some tactics.
-The team became complacement, which tends to occur every now and then.

Craterus

11-19-2009, 16:06

I always hated it in FM when you had a good tactic, it all went well, then it suddenly collapsed, making it useless until you changed something or met a really bad team. I hope it's not the case in 2010.

Always thought that was quite realistic. Just the AI working out your weaknesses, every tactic has one. :balloon:

AggonyDuck

11-19-2009, 18:52

I just personally never really encountered that issue. If my squad was good enough to win the league, then I could keep using the same tactic several seasons in row.

edyzmedieval

11-20-2009, 15:30

Always thought that was quite realistic. Just the AI working out your weaknesses, every tactic has one. :balloon:

Yeah but you don't win one match 3-0 and the next one you lose it by 5-0...

naut

12-04-2009, 15:45

Player exchange?

Anyone ever really got any luck with this feature. Even when a club needs a CB and I offer a CB in exchange for an equal value player they never accept. :wall:

Craterus

01-23-2010, 02:18

:bump:

Seems a few people here play this.

So, I started a 'journeyman' game. Minimum past experience and started unemployed. Aim is to work your way up - I'm hoping to find myself in La Liga at some point. It took me a few months to get a job, but I was eventually hired by Olimpo de Bahia Blanca in the Argentine Second Division. I only had a few games of the season to play. They were a few places above the relegation zone when I took control so I just had to steady the ship and avoid a total collapse.

In my first full season (still in the Argentine Second Division, didn't get relegated), I got promoted. Funny system in South America though, I don't totally understand it now but I won the right games and I'm in the Premier Division. Problem is, I did a bit of a Harry Redknapp to get them promoted. The club has lost a fortune since I took charge and it's £1.1m in the red. I signed a lot of players in my promotion bid, but most were for free - I guess signing on fees do catch up with you in the end. Anyway, for my 'consolidation' in the top division, I have a transfer budget of £2.5k. Looks like I'll have to abuse signing on fees and the instalment payments a bit more. Puts the long-term financial security of the team in jeopardy but I'll be long-gone by then. I hope :huh:

johnhughthom

01-23-2010, 05:57

Player exchange?

Anyone ever really got any luck with this feature. Even when a club needs a CB and I offer a CB in exchange for an equal value player they never accept. :wall:

Nope, gave up trying ages ago.

naut

01-23-2010, 06:47

What are your aims for the current season? Not get relegated or better? Are you going to jump ship at the first better offer?

I played a journeyman game once, ended up in the Swedish second division with the worst team. Struggle doesn't even describe it.

I've been playing as Derby County. I managed, with some luck, and shrewd signings to get promoted to the EPL, by winning the CCC. Lucky for me I got a £18 million transfer budget and have been able to offload alot of rubbish players for alot of cash so I've still got £10 million if I need it. I probably do, this season looks bleak, staying up will be nigh impossible.

johnhughthom

01-23-2010, 07:23

Love this thread at the SI forum, shows how gaming and the gaming community can be of benefit to society:http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=178664

Pah, Swedish or Argentine second division is no journeyman game, get yourself down to the NI second division for some hilariously bad players and no money.

Craterus

01-23-2010, 22:12

Well yeah but I'm already stretching my computer with the current amount of leagues. Can't afford to load any more leagues that I have no interest in just to use a springboard for bigger and better things.

Plan is to stay for one more season and then get something better unless something really good comes along - I never usually accept jobs mid-campaign, the confidence feature always seemed buggy and you would end up being blamed for the poor performance of your predecessor. Not getting relegated is the only realistic aim, the club isn't high profile enough to attract the kind of quality I would need to stay up. Having said that, I've done surprisingly well so far. Having played 3 of my fellow promoted sides in the first 5 games, I've already got 2 wins under my belt. I also led at River Plate for 91 minutes before conceding a late equaliser - the fans weren't happy but they'd have taken a point before the game :sad:

If all else fails, I will go for international jobs, a bit of success with national teams seems to boost your rep much quicker than anything you can do at club level.

What's your transfer policy with Derby? Going for the wonderkids or signing experience? In Argentina, it seems you can get away with signing players aged 35+, the average age of my first 11 must be over 30. On FM08, once a player hit 32, they were pretty much done for. Immediate loss of all physical ability and the technical stats took a hit too.

naut

01-24-2010, 18:00

Well yeah but I'm already stretching my computer with the current amount of leagues. Can't afford to load any more leagues that I have no interest in just to use a springboard for bigger and better things.
Same. Risk of crashes is quite high. Auto-save is a vital feature.

Not getting relegated is the only realistic aim, the club isn't high profile enough to attract the kind of quality I would need to stay up. Having said that, I've done surprisingly well so far. Having played 3 of my fellow promoted sides in the first 5 games, I've already got 2 wins under my belt. I also led at River Plate for 91 minutes before conceding a late equaliser - the fans weren't happy but they'd have taken a point before the game :sad:
Same. I haven't got the squad to do much more. And making too many changes to the squad could be detrimental. Luckily Derby has a fairly good reputation so I can attract decent names. I've picked up a Polish international striker in my first season (Smolarek) and a couple of bargains from the EPL and a French forward of Europa League level on a free (Briand).
Similar for me I lost 2 - 1 to Arsenal and the fans were disappointed!?! because I went ahead and then lost. :sweatdrop:

What's your transfer policy with Derby? Going for the wonderkids or signing experience? In Argentina, it seems you can get away with signing players aged 35+, the average age of my first 11 must be over 30. On FM08, once a player hit 32, they were pretty much done for. Immediate loss of all physical ability and the technical stats took a hit too.
Loans and frees in my first season, as I set to no starting budget and anyway I had no cash regardless. Good cup runs, including a semi-final loss in the FA Cup boosted my cash flow. This season I've got 300K wage budget and 15-18 million for transfers. I've basically balanced the inflows and outflows so I've still got a sizeable portion left. Mostly I've been renewing contracts as many were running out. But, I've been signing a lot of youth and improving aspects of the team fairly reasonably. Picked up Diaby for an absolute bargain 3.5 million and Joe Hart for even cheaper 1.8 million.

Yeah, I've noticed the age thing too. Older players can actually improve, Robbie Savage for me has improved hugely despite being 35, probably has something to do with the Imp. Matches stat. As long as they play the decay is slowed.

Going alright though. Drew with B'burn(H), lost to Arsenal(A) and beat Chelsea(H) in my first three games so I'll survive most likely and hope to build on it the following season.

Craterus

01-24-2010, 20:42

I've picked up a Polish international striker in my first season (Smolarek) and a couple of bargains from the EPL and a French forward of Europa League level on a free (Briand).

Heh, Smolarek is usually very good on FM. And what can I say about Jimmy Briand? A starter in my Fiorentina side of 08 days :smitten:

Picked up Diaby for an absolute bargain 3.5 million and Joe Hart for even cheaper 1.8 million.

Another two very good signings. I've heard Joe Hart becomes one of the best keepers on the game, usually ends up in Madrid or Milan.

naut

01-31-2010, 13:03

How's the relegation battle going?

I'm doing well, above all expectations!

https://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2962/tabledw.jpg

https://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9941/squadp.jpg

Mostly its because of the work of Diaby and Zimling in the middle of the park. Zimling, what player, Udinese had listed him so I picked him up for 375K on deadline day and on a tiny contract too. My youth team is stacked with quality, things look to be on the up for Derby County.

Craterus

02-01-2010, 10:21

I haven't played for a while. Partly because I've gone 5 games without winning and 4 without scoring so the pressure is starting to mount. I've found out that the relegation in Argentina is decided by an average points table (done over 3 or 5 years) but promoted teams are only scored on their current season. This is how I understand it anyway. The bottom 2 teams of the average points table are relegated. The next 2 teams play in relegation playoffs, with teams from the lower division. I'm not sure if this system benefits the smaller sides. If I have a good season now, in my first time up, I'll be better able to stay up next season, I think.

:huh: Who knows? I need to get to a European league where I understand everything ASAP. :sweatdrop:

I'm doing well, above all expectations!
Never thought I'd see Rob Hulse as a starter in a top 5 team :laugh4:

naut

02-11-2010, 12:56

Coming 6th with 23 games played. I've got a game in hand though, so I should overtake Man City if I win.

And this feature is old, but new to me. Cheeky sod. That's nearly the whole of the transfer fee.

https://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5148/cheekysod.jpg

Of course I rejected it, just to spite him. He can rot in the reserves for the next 2.5 years for all I care. :grin:

johnhughthom

03-01-2010, 22:57

10.3 patch has been released, time for my long term 30 odd season career from the dredges of Northern Irish football that will take me to FM 11.

naut

03-20-2010, 16:13

Hehehe. Hilarious bug in my game.

https://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9693/loliy.jpg

Check-out who is in goal. And who is one of the 4 strikers....

johnhughthom

03-20-2010, 17:56

And you only won 2-0? Did it happen when they went 3-2-4, or was Berbatov in nets all game?

naut

03-20-2010, 18:14

I was on the defensive, then Evra got a red card at about 75 minutes and then it happened. Scored 2 in quick succession.

naut

03-21-2010, 10:25

Lol:

https://img717.imageshack.us/img717/6094/lol2hf.jpg

https://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5787/lolxty.jpg

Edit - Man United offered me the manager spot. I will be rejecting. My work with Derby is not yet done!

Craterus

03-21-2010, 16:52

I've stalled in my game. After being promoted to the Argentinian Premier Division, I managed to survive the drop, but finding it hard to progress beyond lower mid-table. It's an impressive achievement given the resources available but, sadly, I don't think the game's reputation system has much respect for my Tony Pulis-esque skills so there isn't really a route out of South America at the moment. Will have to win something before I get the reputation increase that will make Europe a realistic option.

Jolt

03-22-2010, 04:28

I've stalled in my game. After being promoted to the Argentinian, I managed to survive the drop, but finding it hard to progress beyond lower mid-table. It's an impressive achievement given the resources available but, sadly, I don't think the game's reputation system has much respect for my Tony Pulis-esque skills so there isn't really a route out of South America at the moment. Will have to win something before I get the reputation increase that will make Europe a realistic option.

Really? Well, in my multiplayer game as Sporting CP (My colleague is Porto), I ended first season in 2nd (While he won the Portuguese Liga), and yet, I'm the one being pointed into major Spanish teams, as rumors of managers about to be released are broadcast, so far. I'm the major target for At. Madrid, Sevilla and Valencia in case the teams do not renew their managers contracts. Or so the media reports. My champion friend, despite having won the league and gotten further than me in every competition, is only lauded as a substitute in case I don't take the aforementioned spots.

Craterus

03-22-2010, 21:24

Did you start with different levels of past experience?

Jolt

03-22-2010, 22:33

No experience.

Jolt

03-25-2010, 15:52

No experience.

Teehee! I just found a bug in FM 2010 which I shall exploit to my teams greatest benefit! :D

Next season playing with my friend, I bet I'm going to win the league, if not the Champions League as well with Sporting! ^_^

johnhughthom

03-25-2010, 23:33

Corner exploit?

Secura

03-26-2010, 02:09

I've been trying the demo of this game and I quite liked how the media reacted to me being a female manager; my first press conference included several questions about women's football and how I can impart my wisdom onto a team of men, really impressive stuff and glad to see that the developers considered female gamers in a market that might not necessarily attract them.

I confess that I'm not amazingly good thus far; I am playing as Manchester United, and I don't think my tactical knowledge of the beautiful game is actually that good... I'm often relying on Phelan to poke me in the right direction and then making decisions myself based on what he's said. I've played all my opening season friendlies thus far and won them all by 3+ goals, but that's not difficult when I'm playing Falkirk and Bury, right?

My first test is going to be Chelsea in the Community Shield, not sure how I'm going to cope when I'm missing Vidic and van der Sar through injury. Any tips for beating them?

Also, I'm having three major problems at the moment; renewing contracts is the first. Danny Welbeck wants to go from £450 a week to £6000+... I don't need to know massive amounts about the monetary side of the game to know that's a bit of a steep step up... not really certain if he's worth that, trying to cut his wage demands down considering his age and ability at the moment.

Secondly, Nani seems to hate me and I don't really know why. Every match thus far, Phelan has told me Nani is struggling to settle into a playing mentality due to personal problems with me. What's his problem? :S

And thirdly, transfers; my coaches poked me (quite forcefully, the meanies) into purchasing an LM or LW-type player. I've placed bids for Theo Walcott and David Silva, and yet both their clubs have outright declined. I've tried offering various clauses such as buy-backs, sell-ons, extra cash installments, adding players they have their eye on (Valencia were keen on Anderson, for example), increasing the fee to way, way more than the player is worth... and nothing. Is that because of my managerial experience or some other factors? :<

Jolt

03-26-2010, 03:07

Corner exploit?

That's correct! Coupled with a very good tactic and a good team, and you get things like this.

https://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu150/Joltie/SportingCPvACMilan.png

The two goals by Seleznyov were the only ones not born of the corner thingie. Corner or not, my team completely dominated Milan.

Secura

03-26-2010, 03:10

Okay, I just beat Chelsea in the Community Shield, very close game.

I had an early Berbatov goal disallowed for offside and Anelka cancelled out Rooney's opener, went right to penalties. Scored all five of mine, and was thinking that Foster wasn't going to have a chance of saving any of theirs... but he managed to keep Bosingwa's effort out and I won 4-5. xD

Still hoping for some help with my ongoing problems described in my previous post though. :3

AggonyDuck

03-26-2010, 10:56

Also, I'm having three major problems at the moment; renewing contracts is the first. Danny Welbeck wants to go from £450 a week to £6000+... I don't need to know massive amounts about the monetary side of the game to know that's a bit of a steep step up... not really certain if he's worth that, trying to cut his wage demands down considering his age and ability at the moment.

Secondly, Nani seems to hate me and I don't really know why. Every match thus far, Phelan has told me Nani is struggling to settle into a playing mentality due to personal problems with me. What's his problem? :S

And thirdly, transfers; my coaches poked me (quite forcefully, the meanies) into purchasing an LM or LW-type player. I've placed bids for Theo Walcott and David Silva, and yet both their clubs have outright declined. I've tried offering various clauses such as buy-backs, sell-ons, extra cash installments, adding players they have their eye on (Valencia were keen on Anderson, for example), increasing the fee to way, way more than the player is worth... and nothing. Is that because of my managerial experience or some other factors? :<

Firstly the Welbeck wage increase isn't that much. The kid has a lot of potential and 6k a week isn't too much at a club like ManU. Nani's problem is propably your experience. With time his attitude should improve or you can just sell him. As to transfers I'd suggest you look elsewhere. There are other left wingers out there who are actually available. Franck Ribery, Ashley Young, Juan Manuel Vargas, Juan Manuel Mata, Luka Modric, Mezut Özil, Juan Angel Albin, Sebastian Giovinco are all good options But that said I don't think the left wing is a place you'd need to strengthen immediately as Tosic and Nani should work fine for now. More critical are the positions of goalkeeper and right back as both Neville and Van Der Sar are aging fast and there really isn't a world class replacement ready at the club.

Beskar

03-26-2010, 11:41

For some reason, I am so tempted to create a "Org" football team and add people from the Org onto it. TosaInu would be the manager, then other various members in different roles.

The editor seems easy enough to use, and for what level we want to place ourselves at, we could use another team as a template.

Craterus

03-26-2010, 15:10

Go for it. I'd be interested to hear about it.

Secura

03-26-2010, 15:20

Firstly the Welbeck wage increase isn't that much. The kid has a lot of potential and 6k a week isn't too much at a club like ManU.

He accepted a new contract finally, worth £1,000,000 over the four years, at last. He also accepted to recieving tutelage from Berba, which is good. :3

There are other left wingers out there who are actually available. Franck Ribery, Ashley Young, Juan Manuel Vargas, Juan Manuel Mata, Luka Modric, Mezut Özil, Juan Angel Albin, Sebastian Giovinco are all good options

Well, my assistant coach states that the left wing/midfield position is a problem area; Nani is good when he's not being a petulent little urchin, but Tosic isn't first team capability just yet. The only bid I've had accepted for a player so far is Fulham's Smalling, but the first team coach basically started saying "cancel the bid, he's not good enough for the team". ¬_¬

More critical are the positions of goalkeeper and right back as both Neville and Van Der Sar are aging fast and there really isn't a world class replacement ready at the club.

Well, Rafael is injured at the moment, waiting for him to come back as a long-term replacement to Neville. As for the goalkeeper, you're definitely right; Kuschazk and Foster aren't really holding their own agains the better teams I've played. I'll need a replacement that will not only be purchasable, but will last a few seasons too.

johnhughthom

03-26-2010, 15:28

Secura

03-26-2010, 15:49

Ignore your staff.

Why? They're my crutch! xD

Beskar

03-27-2010, 01:08

Psychonaut, how do you have the real manchester utd. badge, etc? Is there some mods you are using?

naut

03-27-2010, 01:49

Well, my assistant coach states that the left wing/midfield position is a problem area; Nani is good when he's not being a petulent little urchin, but Tosic isn't first team capability just yet. The only bid I've had accepted for a player so far is Fulham's Smalling, but the first team coach basically started saying "cancel the bid, he's not good enough for the team". ¬_¬
Just play Tosic there. After half a season he'll be decent. And after a full season he'll be excellent, his potential is good. And his stats are more team friendly than Nani's. You may feel adverse to thrusting a youngster there, but it's the best option. And on the left wing he can't really harm you if he has a poor game.

Edit - Yeah. Smalling is rubbish in FM2010, probably only good enough for a League 1 side.

Well, Rafael is injured at the moment, waiting for him to come back as a long-term replacement to Neville. As for the goalkeeper, you're definitely right; Kuschazk and Foster aren't really holding their own agains the better teams I've played. I'll need a replacement that will not only be purchasable, but will last a few seasons too.
Keeper again, with the youngsters it is more critical as when they have a poor game it effects you badly. Possibly best to send one of the two on loan and get someone reliable and consistent. Foster is about as good as anyone out there though. So you may be best toughing it out while he learns and take the point hit. Because you only have the demo I can't really recommend anyone, (like Guillermo Ochoa).

Psychonaut, how do you have the real manchester utd. badge, etc? Is there some mods you are using?
I use this (http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/downloads.php?do=file&id=1136). Patch (http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/downloads.php?do=file&id=1687). I also use the facepack, which has 50,000+ profile images.

johnhughthom

03-27-2010, 09:35

Why? They're my crutch! xD

Decide how you want to play, and the type of players who will fit into your system and stick with it. Listening to your coaches will only lead to random changes to your team make up. Basically I only ever listen to my staff when they recommend me young players or staff (I play "LLM rules" which means no using search function, makes finding players and staff in my normal Conference North/South games fun).

Beskar

03-27-2010, 22:13

I am having trouble with the Editor, which is really bugging me.

To make the task far more simple of creating a TWOrg team, I noticed there is a duplicate function in the editor. So for pure example, I duplicate Wayne Rooney, then edit that duplicate into "John Hughthom" who is from N.ireland, remove the Man U contract, and the obvious small changes then save this edit.

Then start a new game, loading the database along side the edit, and in game, Man Utd has two Wayne Rooneys, and there is no John Hughthom.

However, if I make a player from stratch it works, except making one from scratch lengthens the creation time by a factor of 10.

johnhughthom

03-27-2010, 22:50

Apparently this: http://www.fmrte.com/ is better for your purposes than the official editor. I haven't tried it so if your comp blows up not my fault.

Strike For The South

03-27-2010, 22:53

Is this better than fifa

Craterus

03-28-2010, 01:30

Different games, really. So it's down to what you're looking for from a football game.

In FM, you play the role of the manager. You take control of a team: picking the match squad and setting the tactics. Once they're out on the pitch, there's not a lot you can do. You can still adjust the tactics, but you have no direct control of the players like you would on FIFA. There's a load of other responsibilities (transfers, finances to an extent) as well.

I can answer more of your questions but I hope this makes the difference clear :huh:

Beskar

03-28-2010, 05:57

Apparently this: http://www.fmrte.com/ is better for your purposes than the official editor. I haven't tried it so if your comp blows up not my fault.

Totally the opposite. That is a real time editor, not a database editor. :p

Craterus

03-28-2010, 06:25

As for the editor problem, I'd probably just make it all individually. I've never made clubs before, just added free agents so I'm not sure how that aspect would work. Plus there's the issue of fitting them into a league. Or creating a new league.

You'd probably be better off registering on a proper FM forum and posing these questions.

Beskar

03-28-2010, 17:04

I was thinking of a TW-Org online FM2010 game, then I realise that it wouldn't work at all if less active ones do not want to holiday mode as it were. Thing about FM2010 is that it can really eat up time, and I remember doing a network game with some one who played through all the friendlies on slow... it was like 5 hours just to get out of July because of it.

Getting Assisstant Manager to do friendies is a must.

Secura

03-28-2010, 18:43

a network game with some one who played through all the friendlies on slow... it was like 5 hours just to get out of July because of it.

He refers to me. xD

johnhughthom

03-28-2010, 18:50

What he means is you were playing properly Secura, I usually spend a whole day or two on pre season.

Secura

03-28-2010, 19:08

Well, Beskar and I are currently playing through a networked game, started it around 2200 GMT on Saturday and played right through to 1200 GMT the next day! I like to watch the matches play out and tweak accordingly, while Beskie seems to speed things up and let the team do it's own thing for the most part.

He is playing as Blackpool, seems to have made some good signings (and offloaded about half the squad in the process) and is consistently scoring alot of goals. He's currently second in the Championship, one point behind first.

I'm playing as West Bromich Albion, and have relied more on loans so far; I managed to convince Federico Macheda and Javier Garrido to take a loan spell to the end of the season, and they're both playing amazingly, which is good... really glad United and City let me have 'em. My signings are a bit more reserved though, mostly snapping up youth players or people out of contract.

I'm currently first in the league, staying a point ahead of Beskie. I feel thus far that things might end up going down to goal difference or something, though it's true that we've only played about eight or nine league games so far, it just seems like neither of us are losing at the moment.

We're both into the fourth round of the Carling Cup, which is good, although it's likely to end there for us both; Beskie is drawn against Spurs, I'm playing Chelsea. Just have to hope they field a subpar side like Fulham did in the previous round (beat 'em 5-0 xD).

It seems as though I have a more realistic game, for the most part; my team is getting the results I expect each and everytime; I beat Newcastle by a single goal, I drew against Middlesborough. Whereas Beskie seems to be thumping every team regardless of who they are, which is impressive if unrealistic.

Having said that, I played Sheffield United and they fielded an entirely exhausted squad... beat them 0-14. Four goals each from Miller and Macheda. xD

johnhughthom

03-28-2010, 19:43

Methinks Naughty Beskie has researched the corner exploit...

:sneaky:

Having said that, I played Sheffield United and they fielded an entirely exhausted squad... beat them 0-14. Four goals each from Miller and Macheda. xD

:shocked:

I've been playing CM/FM for nearly twenty years and never had a scoreline like that, even in a friendly.

Secura

03-28-2010, 19:59

Methinks Naughty Beskie has researched the corner exploit...

EDIT: Nevermind, I checked this out on Google... bit of a cheap tactic, really.

I've been playing CM/FM for nearly twenty years and never had a scoreline like that, even in a friendly.

Against Sheffield United too! I expected a close-run game, probably a draw, because they're pushing for promotion just like I am. For some reason, their entire midfield had a condition rating of 35% or less, they were all exhausted, simply tore them apart. A fantastic three points and it's given me a massive amount of breathing room in terms of goal difference; before that game, Beskar's goal difference was the highest in the league by quite a distance.

johnhughthom

03-28-2010, 20:08

For some reason, their entire midfield had a condition rating of 35% or less, they were all exhausted, simply tore them apart.

???? Never had that happen, you still playing the demo version?

The closest I came to a situation like that was as Cork City I had a game coming up against Derry City and their entire team had stamina in the 60s due to fixture congestion, I was battling them for the league so I was rubbing my hands with glee as the match approached. Day of the match news message "The fixture between Derry City and Cork City has been cancelled due to a waterlogged pitch." Sneaky :daisy:s! Then the match was rescheduled right in the middle of a tough run of games for me after they had a free weekend. Still beat them and won the league though.

Totally the opposite. That is a real time editor, not a database editor. :p

Well that's the last time I put any effort into finding something for you. That's exactly what you need to solve your clone problem. :beadyeyes:

Secura

03-28-2010, 20:32

???? Never had that happen, you still playing the demo version?

No, Beskie got me the actual game. :3

I was about seven goals up after the first twenty-five minutes of the match, it was ridiculous. xD

Jolt

03-28-2010, 21:36

I had a similar idea, which I tried with great success in a Portuguese forum some months ago.

It would be you guys (And me) making squads with a given budget (170.000.000 € in my experiment), with the maximum value of the player being bought (You can't buy a player with a starting value bigger than 17.000.000 €) and buying a manager for the teams.

The team you'd control would be from the league where we'd all be playing in and then I'd post screenies on how the teams were faring.

We'd simply be the presidents of the clubs with the only power to fire managers and hire new ones.

In my experiment, it was all done in the Portuguese Liga, where 13 users of that forum formed squads and hired managers with the given budget and I posted screenshots on the fixtures and gave small updates on curious things on important games (Such as european games and derbies).

The winner was the guy who formed the team for "Rio Ave", whose manager was Silvino Morais (Which is an assistent manager in the game). It was pretty fun. The one who controlled Benfica won the Europa Cup and the guy who controlled Sporting ended up going to the Champions League final and lost to Chelsea.

Obviously, we are much fewer, and provided you guys would be interested, we'd each take control of the lowest English Premiership teams, for instance, and play for two seasons.

Secura

03-28-2010, 22:08

It would be you guys (And me) making squads with a given budget (170.000.000 € in my experiment), with the maximum value of the player being bought (You can't buy a player with a starting value bigger than 17.000.000 €) and buying a manager for the teams.

So around £150,000,000 then... that's alot of money; I played as Manchester United and had £80,000,000 for transfers and thought that was alot! I assume you edit the funds via the Editor? Kinda like having your own Abramovich buying the club? :P

We'd simply be the presidents of the clubs with the only power to fire managers and hire new ones.

How does this part work? And do we have an active hand in the matches themselves or is everything left to the [assistant] manager?

Obviously, we are much fewer, and provided you guys would be interested, we'd each take control of the lowest English Premiership teams, for instance, and play for two seasons.

I'd be interested, certainly, though I won't be all that good!

I guess team-wise, the following should be no-go for certain: Manchester United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester City, Aston Villa, Tottenham Hotspur. What did you have in mind, though? :3

Jolt

03-29-2010, 00:32

So around £150,000,000 then... that's alot of money; I played as Manchester United and had £80,000,000 for transfers and thought that was alot! I assume you edit the funds via the Editor? Kinda like having your own Abramovich buying the club? :P

How does this part work? And do we have an active hand in the matches themselves or is everything left to the [assistant] manager?

I'd be interested, certainly, though I won't be all that good!

I guess team-wise, the following should be no-go for certain: Manchester United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester City, Aston Villa, Tottenham Hotspur. What did you have in mind, though? :3

You only pretty much make the squad and hire the manager (Might I add, the manager "seems" to be important. All those that spent most of the budget in the team and then hired a nobody to manage their team didn't fare very well, with certain exceptions).

We'd start in the weakest teams of last season (That is, the recently promoted ones then the ones which finished worst last season)

Everything would be left to the Manager you buy, including purchases and whatnot. As counter-measures to prevent your picked team from deserting you for better teams, and to avoid AI Presidents overrulling anything and selling your players, I'll make the players you buy favourite your team and your manager AND I'll edit the Chairman stats in patience and other thingies I can't remember to prevent the board overrule. Further I'll make the Team's Reputation attribute 20. That means your players will (probably) be happy playing for your squad as long as your manager fields them. I would advise you to buy the team for a certain model (4-4-2 for instance) and then hiring a manager whose favourite formation is exactly that one. Otherwise you hire Guardiola (for example), who plays in 4-5-1 and then all your other 4 Strikers get unhappy for not being fielded or being first-team regulars.

Btw, you'd keep your team's squad prior to the buyings as a way of getting some reserves in case your team runs into a huge injury problem. However, most of that team will probably desert as they can't play due to being covered by World Class players.

After the season kicks off, you're pretty much stuck seeing how the team you bought and the manager to run it fare off. You'll also recieve whatever amount of your budget remains. That may mean that if the manager decides the players you bought him aren't good enough, he goes to the market to get them (Or buy youngsters as most managers did in the previous experience.)

Beskar

03-29-2010, 08:31

It seems as though I have a more realistic game, for the most part; my team is getting the results I expect each and everytime; I beat Newcastle by a single goal, I drew against Middlesborough. Whereas Beskie seems to be thumping every team regardless of who they are, which is impressive if unrealistic.

That is not true, your goal difference is like 8 infront of mine and you are top of the league, I lost my very first game, and lost one shortly after, I only picked up league while after a couple of signings like David Gray from Manchester United, Plessis from Liverpool, etc.

The reason I am stating this is because you are giving the impression I am just "thumping everyone" when you got the far more impressive stats by a mile. :laugh4: Only team I only did outstanding against was "Derby" who then sacked their manager and majority of the staff walked out after this. In short, they shot themselves in the foot badly due to the manager.

Edit:

Also, Bristol City are just behind us, in the two simulations I did, I either draw to them or I lose. In short, they are very good. It appears their defense is too much for my strikers, so I will need to adjust for that, it seems.

While you win 1-4 against Barnsley.

johnhughthom

03-29-2010, 16:55

Also, Bristol City are just behind us, in the two simulations I did, I either draw to them or I lose.

:shocked2:

Absolutely shocking behaviour, I was going to ask if I can join your game but if you think "practice matches" is within the spirit of FMing I won't bother.

:clown:

Secura

03-29-2010, 17:02

That is not true, your goal difference is like 8 infront of mine and you are top of the league

My goal difference is that high because of the freak win over Sheffield United; if they had fielded a proper team as they were meant to, my goal difference would have been fourteen less, perhaps even worse if I had lost as expected.

I lost my very first game, and lost one shortly after, I only picked up league while after a couple of signings like David Gray from Manchester United, Plessis from Liverpool, etc.

A right-back and a defensive midfielder... they're not contributing to the goals.

The reason I am stating this is because you are giving the impression I am just "thumping everyone" when you got the far more impressive stats by a mile. Only team I only did outstanding against was "Derby" who then sacked their manager and majority of the staff walked out after this. In short, they shot themselves in the foot badly due to the manager.

I argue against this. The case in point being Newcastle United, a team that we have both played and a team that is predicted to win the Championship. I failed to break down their team for sixty minutes until Alan Smith and Joey Barton were red-carded, whereby I then beat them by three goals or something. You had the same result, but against eleven men with a "less impressive team".

The difference between our teams is clear if you look at the directors; my chairman is pressuring me to be promoted the Premier League, whereby your own chairman is hoping that your team will avoid relegation. Having played as Blackpool myself, every single news report relating to matches places the team as the underdogs or highly likely to be beaten to a pulp. Ergo, your team are thumping everyone, uncharacteristically so to the point where you're in second place when you should be mid-table at best, no?

Additionally, with the amount of players you've brought into the first team (and the amount you got rid of), it's unlikely that the team would instantly gel together so well that you'd be performing as well as you are. I don't think I'd be the only one to think something was up in that kinda case. I believe the impression I'm giving is a correct one.

Jolt

03-29-2010, 18:56

No more comments on my idea? Oh well.

Secura

03-29-2010, 19:05

I'm sure Beskie and JHT would be in, we're all in similar timezones. :3

Beskar

03-29-2010, 21:49

:shocked2:

Absolutely shocking behaviour, I was going to ask if I can join your game but if you think "practice matches" is within the spirit of FMing I won't bother.

:clown:

Trust you to clown me.

Also, it is a good idea, Jolt

johnhughthom

03-30-2010, 00:16

Oh yeah, I'd be up for that too Jolt. So long as somebody, doesn't cheat.

Secura

03-30-2010, 00:37

So long as somebody, doesn't cheat.

Who, me? :P

Our season is really taking shape now; we've played fourteen league games thus far, and things stand as follows:

Secura: #1 West Brom W:11 D:2 L:1 GF:51 GA:7 GD:+44 Pnts:35

Beskar: #3 Blackpool W:9 D:3 L:2 GF:32 GA:10 GD:+22 Pnts:28

Both looking increasingly likely to make a promotion bid, even at such an early stage. Our Carling Cup games against Chelsea and Tottenham are coming up, let's hope we can manage a scrappy win! :P

It seems Terry, A.Cole and Drogba are all injured, but I've still gotta contend with Lampard, Essien and co. D:

johnhughthom

03-30-2010, 01:00

I'm hearing rumours of a massive cup upset...

Secura

03-30-2010, 01:03

Holy bantha poo-doo, I just beat Chelsea 2-0 and I'm through to the Quarter-Finals of the Carling Cup!

I swear to God, I'm going to get the directors to give me whatever money possible to bring Macheda to the Hawthornes permanently, he's amazing. <3

Secura

03-30-2010, 01:10

You think that's a cup upset though... Beskie's Blackpool are currently winning 3-0 against Tottenham and it's only half an hour into the game.

I believe that the winner of the Arsenal-Man Utd tie is going to win the cup itself though.

EDIT: He's multiple goals up now, but it appears that Spurs are not playing any first team players whatsoever; at least Chelsea sent Malouda, Anelka, J.Cole and such at me... -_-'

EDITx2: Blackpool defeated Spurs by seven goals to nil. They join West Brom, Hull, Bolton, Birmingham, Manchester United, Everton and Sunderland in the Quarters.

johnhughthom

03-30-2010, 01:16

Naughty Beskie is dead, long live Cheatie Beskie!

Secura

03-30-2010, 01:22

Nah, Tottenham didn't play a single player I've heard of except Ledley King, and he's hardly going to change the game.

They played Reserves and he thrashed them; that's what happens to Premier League sides who insult lower league teams by fielding sub-par options. :P

EDIT: Blackpool will be playing Birmingham in the QFs, West Brom are playing Bolton. Both winnable games, I think.

johnhughthom

03-30-2010, 01:57

You kiddies can keep your Carling Cup ties with Premier League sides, I have finally decided to start my 10.3 FM career game. My previous three FM 10 games involved great success with Newcastle, ridiculous fixture congestion and marquee signings with Cork City and winning the lot with Rangers. Now for my real game I am going for the glamorous surroundings of Capershotts with Waltham Abbey in the Isthmian Premier League, where I am predicted to come last.

Secura

03-30-2010, 22:40

Well, we're now at the halfway point in the season, with twenty-three games each played in the League, the table standing as follows:

Secura: #1 West Brom W:19 D:3 L:1 GF:75 GA:11 GD:+64 Pts:60

Beskar: #3 Blackpool W:13 D:5 L:5 GF:53 GA:21 GD:+32 Pts:44

I was knocked out of the Carling Cup by Bolton, losing 2-1. Beskie managed to defeat Birmingham on penalties, and overturned a 3-1 deficit to beat Everton 6-3 and move onto Manchester United in the final.

In the FA Cup, I managed to defeat Manchester City's full-strength first-team by a single goal to nil, whereas Beskar swept Brentford aside so we've both progressed to the Fourth Round now; Beskie's playing Newcastle, I'm against Southend.

naut

03-31-2010, 02:05

Obviously, we are much fewer, and provided you guys would be interested, we'd each take control of the lowest English Premiership teams, for instance, and play for two seasons.
I'd be up for it. :yes:

And guess what... Due to Liverpool being deducted 9 points, Man City losing to Chelsea and a last day 4 - 0 win over Everton at Pride Park I snuck Derby into the Champions League on goal difference. There's a 20 point gap between me and United in third place. And it is really tight from 4 till 9, just 5 points seperating it all. I'm well chuffed! :beam:

Secura

03-31-2010, 07:38

Well, Beskie and I finished our Championship season; West Brom finished the league on top, beating all Reading's 2005-2006 records in the process (around +87 GD, 110+ points). Beskie came second and won the Carling Cup to boot.

I've decided not to continue playing in the Premier League though; there were many bugs popping up in our game (Brett Ormerod changing from a thirty-four year old Englishman to a twenty year old Jamaican is the best example) and a large amount of sheer stupidity and unrealisticness was occuring that wasn't to my taste, so I intend to restart a separate game as West Brom again and try to test my luck doing things more according to the book, so to speak.

Beskar

03-31-2010, 07:57

That bug was amusing. "You terminated his contract? You should have sold him, etc etc... wait... why is he Jamacian?"

johnhughthom

04-01-2010, 16:17

Secura I think something has gone wrong somewhere in your install or something, either that or you are actually playing Championship Manager.

Secura

04-01-2010, 16:33

Secura I think something has gone wrong somewhere in your install or something, either that or you are actually playing Championship Manager.

Well, it was the same on Beskie's end too.

Playing a Premiership game now; Beskie took control of Wolves whereas I was Fulham, but kinda got bored of them being absolutely awful in front of goal and left. Just taken control of Arsenal where they're currently languishing in 9th place, twelve points behind leaders Chelsea with a game in hand... dunno what the Dickens Wenger was doing, but I'm hoping to push back up the ladder and try for 4th.

Craterus

04-02-2010, 11:19

Easter holidays, so some time to revise play FM. Getting back into my journeyman save, though still 'stuck' in Argentina. Anyway, last night I played for the first time in 3 weeks and the lack of match practice showed. Got thumped 4-0, then lost 2-0, then 3-0. One of my strikers is approaching his 34th birthday, the other is being courted by bigger and better things in Europe. Gonna have to perfect that 4-6-0 formation for next season if I can't move elsewhere.

Anyway, the highlight of last night's play was coming up against this legendary goalkeeper:

https://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/Craterus/assmann.jpg

He's actually rather good but his league stats don't show it. One of those 2 clean sheets was against me, obviously. Independiente underperforming massively.

naut

04-02-2010, 15:33

Assmann? Assmann?

Just taken control of Arsenal where they're currently languishing in 9th place, twelve points behind leaders Chelsea with a game in hand... dunno what the Dickens Wenger was doing, but I'm hoping to push back up the ladder and try for 4th.
It's because the entire Arsenal squad (Fabregas and v.Persie aside) have absolutely rubbish potential (again makes no sense) and average current ability compared to other top clubs. Hell, even the Sp*ds have better CA/PA mix than most Arsenal players in FM2010. Makes me think the developers are Sp*ds, (poor sods). That's why I play with a modified database, which rebalances most of the major leagues, adds the J-League and corrects the finances of the clubs (hence why Liverpool went into Admin in my game, as they missed out on the CL they lost huge revenue streams + huge debt = minor implosion). So in mine Arsenal went ok in 2009/2010, and then 2010/2011 and now 2011/2012 they are dominating because players start to reach potentials, similar things happening to Wolves and a lesser extent Liverpool as they couldn't bring in players for the first two seasons so the younger players are improving by being thrown in the deep end.

Here's what a little scouting in the Portugese U18s leagues can do for you:

https://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6076/protogy1.jpg

https://img638.imageshack.us/img638/1089/protogy2.jpg

Also bought Kaboul for 3.7mil and Obinna for the same sum. Obinna is a forward, but his stats mean he is actually best as an inside forward left or right (I have a spreadsheet where I compare this stuff... :smart:). Also picked up a Argie defender Nicolás Otamendi from Velez (Crate may recognise him). I was put off by their 11 mil asking price, but they offered him to clubs for 4.4, bargain. He needs a work permit though, which equals 2 years spent in Spain before he can actually play for me. It's going to be diffucult to live up to last season's standards. My CL group contains.... Barca. Aiming for a 3rd place spot and the resulting parachute to Europa league.

Craterus

04-02-2010, 20:16

Solid defender. Surprised to see him still at Velez on my game. They are topping the league at the moment though.
The Holland U21 job is vacant but no matter how many times I apply, I don't get an answer...

Ferret

04-02-2010, 23:26

Finally got around to buying this game after exploring demos for years. No idea who to start as though, any recommendations from the pros?

Beskar

04-02-2010, 23:46

Well, what do you aim to do? At the moment, me and Secura are going to go random teams in the Italian top-league. I will be going as Atalanta (simply because their kit looks cool) and simply just play ball and try to get into a decent position.

However, you could pick a random league 2 team like Cockfosters FC and attempt to play through seasons to get to the Premiership.

You could be a journey manager, picking from the lowest, to attempt to move up the manager ranks to the top clubs.

Secura

04-02-2010, 23:54

I've stolen the face of a certain outspoken Portuguese manager that I'm rather partial to, from the massive FacePack that was mentioned earlier in the thread; I will be 'roleplaying' the game as this manager from his current season at Internazionale to whereever the wind may take me, perhaps even a return to the Premier League.

Jolt

04-03-2010, 00:48

Secura

04-03-2010, 01:03

Surely you mean the "Special Two", Jorge Jesus? (http://snowballjoyrider.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/hello-world/)

Hahaha, that reminds me of a Top Gear episode where Jeremy Clarkson played Gran Turismo to get used to a track then drove around it for real and alluded to the fact that he was going to soil himself from all the hairpins and such.

But yes, I am The Special One, albeit without all the cool stats that NPC managers get. :<

Craterus

04-03-2010, 22:02

Easter holidays, so some time to revise play FM. Getting back into my journeyman save, though still 'stuck' in Argentina. Anyway, last night I played for the first time in 3 weeks and the lack of match practice showed. Got thumped 4-0, then lost 2-0, then 3-0.

After today's play, I'm now up to 9 games without a win. Playing away at Boca next, so we can chalk that one up as a loss. The team is back into a relegation battle after such a promising first half of the season. Will explain the Argentinian league system if anyone's interested but I doubt that's the case. Safe to say, the system doesn't favour newly-promoted teams.

Also, the team seems to be in major financial trouble. I can't tell how much of this I'm responsible for. I've paid over the odds for a few players (you could argue) and been rather generous with contract demands but I've never exceeded my budget. Anyway, the team name is always preceded by 'penniless' or 'cash-strapped' :sad: and there's speculation over which players will have to be sold to make up funds. Feel like Portsmouth.

Secura

04-04-2010, 03:38

Join the club; my game as The Special One went completely and utterly down the toilet and I genuinely do not understand what I was doing wrong. I went with the suggested formation of 4-1-2-1-2 that was provided by the assistants, particularly because the other suggestions simply didn't offer enough depth to the play; after the Supercoppa, everything seemed to go downhill. I was playing the following:

GK: Julio Cesar
LB: Chivu
RB: Javier Zanetti
CB: Walter Samuel, Lucio
CDM: Cambiasso
CM: Muntari, Stankovic
AM: Sneijder
ST: Milito, Eto'o

Substitutes being a range of players dependent on the match at hand; sometimes experienced mainstays such as Quaresma or Materazzi, sometimes some of the young players I had bought and was trying to bring through the first-team, such as Verratti or Lukaku.

None of this had any impact though; it simply felt that the team didn't really want to score, didn't really want to defend and were simply eleven people taken off the street, dressed in the Nerazurri and thrown out onto the pitch. I think my results before standing down sum it all up:

Supercoppa Italia: Inter 2 - 0 Lazio
Champion's League: Bordeaux 0 - 0 Inter, Inter 2 - 3 Stuttgart
Serie A: Sampdoria 4 - 1 Inter, Palermo 3 - 1 Inter, Inter 0 - 0 Lazio, Inter 2 - 0 Cagliari, Catania 1 - 1 Inter.

The fans were calling for my head after three losses, particularly as I was languishing in the bottom five of Serie A with a ten point gap between myself and Juventus at the top and the fact that the team wasn't really scoring at all or defending at all, particularly Eto'o. Materazzi and Cesar were on the recieving end of so much grief game after game that they just didn't want to play no matter what I said and it was a surprise that they hadn't taken their own lives. -_-'

Craterus

04-05-2010, 21:23

Update: Penniless/debt-ridden Olimpo are now under a no-transfer policy. I don't have any money to spend and the squad is getting a bit too old and slow. In the first team, concerns over the GK (35, star performer last season but needs to be replaced next summer, I think), DMC (38, formation being gradually adjusted to phase him out) and ST (34, previously mentioned, still first-choice and a very handy target man but definitely getting on).
Plus, I don't even have the money to renew contracts. I've lost a bit of dead wood, which is always nice, but my other first-choice striker is now on a month-to-month contract (thankfully didn't leave when his contract wasn't renewed but I'm just waiting for him to get snapped up). I've also lost my assistant manager (he wasn't great) and I don't really have any money to get a new one.

So, summer targets: Assistant Manager, left winger/defensive midfielder, contract renewal for striker.

Switzerland won Euro 2012, beating France on penalties in the final. England didn't make it to the tournament under the capable stewardship of Harry Redknapp. Capello retired after the 2010 World Cup, I think.

Secura

04-08-2010, 12:09

Thought I'd start a new game as Manchester United, see what happened. Having won the Community Shield thingy, my first three league games were against Manchester City (Old Trafford, 1-1), Liverpool (Anfield, 1-1) and Stoke (Old Trafford, 5-0). I took a shower and come back to find this:

https://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/Secura87/CarrickWTF.jpg

Absolutely bizarre... quite like all the penalties in the Sunderland-Spurs game. The media are all praising Carrick for his amazing hat-trick! :laugh4:

naut

04-09-2010, 02:08

England didn't make it to the tournament under the capable stewardship of Harry Redknapp.
~D.

Madoushi

04-09-2010, 07:38

I think I saw '09 in an EB here. Neat game. Reminds me a bit of Eastside Hockey Manager, just clearly a thousand times more polished. :nod:

Craterus

04-12-2010, 02:19

Here's a screenshot of my trophy player, if anyone's interested: https://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/Craterus/fm10/salvatierra.jpg

My assistant pointed him out when he came through (the start of last season) but I wasn't sure how best to approach it. Certainly good enough for the league but didn't fit my formation. Having never had a promising generated player before, I decided to change the formation and push him into the first-team. 16 years, 233 days old when he made his debut in the Argentine Premier Division. After a decent half-season, he's being tracked by Bayern but they've yet to make a serious offer.

That record has since been broken by a goalie I got this summer. Made his debut in the opening league game at 16 years and 1 month. The coaches say he's as good as my 36 year-old goalkeeper (club captain and last season's player of the season) but obviously with the potential for bigger and better things. I'll try to rotate the 2 but I'm so keen to develop one of these generated players into a world-beater that I might show him a bit too much preferential treatment. We'll see.

With the no-transfer policy, I made a few free transfers and have a lot of spare wage budget but with the option of turning to some promising youth players, I might survive without spending much money in the future. Still looking to move on, unless these youngsters really start to get good.

EDIT: Money is in Argentine Peso, by the way, not US Dollars. Not sure on the conversion rate so I don't know what he's worth in £, sorry.

Ferret

04-12-2010, 19:57

Not bad at all, and yeah I thought $15 mill looked a little steep :laugh4:

I decided to start at city so I had some cash to splash and finished a pleasing third. The bookies have made me favourites to the title for next season but I doubt that will happen, United and Chelsea were a good 20 points clear of me and I haven't made any major signings in the summer, just young prospects. Getting a bit addicted though...

Secura

04-13-2010, 00:06

I decided to start at city so I had some cash to splash and finished a pleasing third.

Aside of all the boo-hiss stuff, third's a really good finish, congratulations.

The transfer system is quite humourous at times though; I'm unsure how Manchester City's initial transfer budget is £55,000,000 when the club is debt-free and essentially owned by Arabian royalty. Compare it to Manchester United, who get about £65,000,000 and are in tonnes of debt... seems silly.

What was sillier for me was Real Madrid's limit of only £13,000,000. What the Dickens is one meant to do with that? ¬_¬

Ferret

04-13-2010, 00:42

Yeah they seem pretty tight with it and don't mind getting more, they sold De Jong without even asking me...
I just pretend they don't trust me with a lot of money and that there will be lots more to come, they gave me around 80 million at the start of the new season so I'm happy with that. And don't worry the opening game of the season was at old trafford, again, and we lost quite badly, following that was a draw with a visiting pompey side, that somehow survived despite having 9 points taken off, and the bookies may regret those title odds :laugh4:

naut

04-15-2010, 03:03

EDIT: Money is in Argentine Peso, by the way, not US Dollars. Not sure on the conversion rate so I don't know what he's worth in £, sorry.
£2,500,000.

Pretty standard for a quality youth player from Central-South America. Like this guy, my scouts say sign him at whatever cost:

https://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8500/carloscd.jpg

And I came close to beating Barca... (Or at least getting a draw).

https://img638.imageshack.us/img638/9356/closec.jpg

Secura

04-25-2010, 18:44

So, I'm back to playing as West Bromich Albion, a team that I've grown to like playing as due to the width of the squad and relatively good prospects of the younger players. The media prediction was fourth, which showed that there was a possibility of promotion back to the Premier League, but I'd obviously have to work hard for it to stave off the Sheffield Uniteds and such.

I started my first season by selling a few fringe players I had no interest in retaining, making around £4m in the process, which was nice because last time I played as WBA, I was in debt by Christmas. I stuck to my tried and tested method of simply loaning the players I needed, bringing in John Bostock (CM from Spurs), Federico Macheda (Striker, Man Utd), Javier Garrido (LB/LWB, Man City) and Danny Wilson (CB, bought from Rangers by Liverpool) on loan until the end of the season. I also purchased a nice English AMC, around 17-18 for about £3.5m and then set about pushing for promotion.

By the end of the season, WBA had won the Carling Cup (beating Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea in the process!), bowed out of the FA Cup in the semi-finals (I had major injury trouble, lost 3-2 to Stoke) and had won the Coca-Cola Championship with seven games to spare, finishing on 115 points, +89 goal difference and only losing a single game (against Watford, 2-1 at home) in the course of the league season. Promotion to the Premier League (along with Newcastle and playoff winners Notts Forest) and qualification to the Europa League to boot!

Even better was my young English AMC (46 apps, 34 goals, 36 assists, 24 MoMs, Av. Rat of 8.55), who was called up to the England squad for the 2010 World Cup. England progressed all the way to the final where they met Italy. An early Lampard penalty was cancelled out by a Cannavaro equaliser, and the game went to extra time; Italy had three (yes, THREE) players all sent off for second yellow offences, whereby my AMC and Rooney tore them apart for a 4-1 victory and football coming home. The best part? The AMC's value increasing to £28m and netting me £31m from Man City in the summer! :P

So now I'm in my second season, promising the board that I won't be relegated; I purchased Gareth Bale and Rafael for 12m each with the proceeds from my former AMC, and Real Madrid have just offered me Rafael van der Vaart for free as a replacement, which is nice. I'm looking towards a mid-table finish and perhaps winning the Carling Cup or FA Cup again, depending on teams drawn and such. The Europa League isn't relevant at this point. :3

The most satisfying part is the fact that the media starts saying things like "a female manager has achieved so much, blah blah blah!" and hailing me as a hero and such. xD

EDIT: Scratch that about van der Vaart; while my assistant manager tells me that signing him is a no-brainer, the player doesn't have any desire to join the club at all and I'd have to smash my wage structure to sign him. ¬_¬

naut

04-26-2010, 06:43

The most satisfying part is the fact that the media starts saying things like "a female manager has achieved so much, blah blah blah!" and hailing me as a hero and such. xD
~D

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Unfortunately my game save became corrupted. So Derby is no more. =(

Beskar

04-26-2010, 08:50

Unfortunately my game save became corrupted. So Derby is no more. =(

RIP Derby. :sad:

I wonder though, does anyone agree that sometimes FM2010 is basically just time consuming? When you are actively doing something, you are fine with the time, but when you are waiting between games and when you click 'Continue' and it keeps knocking you out of continue for the most pointless things, or require like 7 presses to actually move on, and after 30 minutes of this, you actually progress to the next day?

Makes me want to just Holiday mode at times.

johnhughthom

04-26-2010, 13:09

It's all about finding the right database size and number of leagues for your setup.

Ferret

04-26-2010, 16:03

Secura

04-26-2010, 16:05

Currently I'm just playing with the Coca-Cola Championship and Barclays Premier League as my playable leagues (though I obviously don't intend for West Brom to be relegated... currently sitting on fifteen points with six games played, which is nice) with a large database, as it were, and it's fine for the most part.

The thing that annoys me most is when it's a week or two of international matches and it simulates each and every single one.... with my laptop, those international qualifier/friendly time periods can take an hour or so depending on length and number of matches. Pain in the bottom. :<

Secura

04-26-2010, 16:16

Wow, sounds like you found a right beast. Do you know what happened in the premier league in the first season? City always seem to do really well on mine, whether or not I'm managing them, they might even win it with this new guy :beam:

It's a shame I had to sell him, but £31m was just too good to turn down; it's completely stabilised West Brom's finances (I was making a loss in every month when in the Championship, except the month I won the Carling Cup and reached the FA Cup semis) and I was able to buy two potentially world-class fullbacks. Start my way from the back and work forward!

The first season in general:

Premier League winners: Chelsea
Champion's League qualifiers: Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal
Europa League Qualifiers: Everton, Stoke, West Brom
FA Cup winners: Man City
Carling Cup winners: West Brom
Champion's League winners: Real Madrid
Europa League winners: Stuttgart
World Cup 2010 winners: England

Relegated to Championship: Wigan, Fulham, Portsmouth
Promoted from Championship: West Brom, Newcastle, Notts Forest

Top Premier League Scorer: Gabriel Agbonlahor, 21
Ballon D'Or winner: Cesc Fabregas
Player's Player of the Year: Luka Modric
Manager of the Year: Carlo Ancelotti

Craterus

04-26-2010, 19:57

What's the AMC's name?

AggonyDuck

04-27-2010, 12:40

My guess is that the AMC in question is Jonjo Shelvey. Not too many others fit the bill of being willing to join WBA at a cost of £3.5 million and being able to make the 2010 World Cup.

Secura

04-27-2010, 16:37

That's a fantastic guess! I think Charlton took me to the cleaners for him, they really didn't want to let him go, hot prospect and all that, and apparantly Man City, Liverpool and Valencia wanted to buy him.

He was a late call-up to the England squad by Fabio, made it to the World Cup and multiplied his own value tenfold... and now he's sat on Man City's bench unlikely to get a game over Tevez, and I'm £31m (well, £7m after buying Rafael and Bale) better off!

Has anyone noticed that clubs tend to buy the same players each game, or at least try to? I've noticed that Chelsea always buy some Suarez guy and Landon Donovan, in every game I've played. o_o'

Craterus

04-27-2010, 22:34

Man City signed Denilson and Lucas in the first transfer window on both my FM10 games so far. That's the only trend I've noticed (apparently it's fairly common). Only 2 games though, and the first was a quick mess about on the demo with Torquay playing for just 6 months.

Chelsea just signed a 32 year old Robbie Keane on my current game and there was another strange bit of transfer activity - Premier League's gone mad :mad:

Ferret

04-28-2010, 21:47

Yeah City signed those two in my chelsea game as well, couldn't stop me winning the treble though :beam:

And oh right I thought the AMC was one of the game's generated players, didn't realise Shelvey was that good. I'm sure you'll be very pleased to hear Liverpool have signed him in real life, Secura :clown:

Secura

04-28-2010, 23:36

And oh right I thought the AMC was one of the game's generated players, didn't realise Shelvey was that good.

He isn't, the player's only as good as the team he's playing with... you could have a player with every stat maxed at 20, and he'd still need the rest of his team in order to win. :P

I believe it was probably a glitch or something, but I'm not complaining, got Bale and Rafael out of it.

I'm sure you'll be very pleased to hear Liverpool have signed him in real life, Secura :clown:

:laugh4:

He isn't a player I'd rate in real life or say "Fergie, sign him up!" about, just an average kid. But we'll see, I suppose.

naut

04-29-2010, 03:14

Chelsea just signed a 32 year old Robbie Keane on my current game and there was another strange bit of transfer activity - Premier League's gone mad :mad:
!!!!!

And oh right I thought the AMC was one of the game's generated players, didn't realise Shelvey was that good. I'm sure you'll be very pleased to hear Liverpool have signed him in real life, Secura :clown:
We all know the main reason they've done it. To meet the home-grown quota coming into ruling next season.

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Does anyone else find that most of the good regens in the game are central defenders?

Craterus

04-30-2010, 17:28

We all know the main reason they've done it. To meet the home-grown quota coming into ruling next season.

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Does anyone else find that most of the good regens in the game are central defenders?

Actually, as Shelvey is under 21, he doesn't need to be registered in the 25-man squad so I'm not sure the home-grown rule applies to him. But I'm not really clear on these new rules yet :huh:

And, I think quality defenders are most prevalent because they need to be good at fewer stats to be world-class. (Marking and Tackling are the only technical attributes that are essential, and you can even get away with Tackling <15)

naut

05-01-2010, 09:28

New game as Valladolid. Decent staff, average players, no money, no fitness at all. I keep drawing and losing right at the end of games. Strikers with 13 or less finishing means no goals. Going to be a long and arduous season.

Ferret

05-01-2010, 12:37

Actually, as Shelvey is under 21, he doesn't need to be registered in the 25-man squad so I'm not sure the home-grown rule applies to him. But I'm not really clear on these new rules yet :huh:

They have to have 4 players registered for the club that trained there for three years when younger than 21 or something like that. So he's being signed with the future in mind.

Secura

05-03-2010, 20:51

So, I'm coming up to the end of my second season in charge of West Bromich Albion, and the whole "lulz, female manager" thing still hasn't worn off for the press; yes, I have boobs, and yes, I'm playing a football simulation game, and yes, I've just beaten Liverpool 7-1, do we have to keep mentioning it?!

After promotion to the Premier League, I had been asked to avoid relegation and to reach the Fifth Round of the FA Cup, Group Stage of the Europa League and the Fourth Round of the Carling Cup. No real miracles expected, so no pressure, right? Well, no pressure except players demanding higher Premier League level wages, my best players asking to move to Manchester City or Real Madrid and the rest demanding first-team football in the middle of a congested fixture list!

There's been a shake-up of League managers, which is nice to see for the most part.; Henning Berg has taken over at Blackburn, Henrik Larsson is at the helm of Bolton Wanderers ad Liverpool hired Marco van Basten. However, the biggest heartbreaker for me had to be whenJosé Mourinho walked out of Inter Milan in November and joined the blue half of Manchester two months later... cue major fangirl tears.

There's been alot of arguing between the FA, managers (I got a match ban, Fergie style, was quite chuffed by that!), players (City sign some Angel Di Mario dude only for him to ask for a transfer request six months later) and the media (Furious Ferguson and Wretched Williams, for example), but it's been a nice season for the most part.

Anyways, I won the Carling Cup again, although I'd argue that this year's run of Liverpool (4th Rnd), Arsenal (Quarters), Chelsea (Semis) and Man Utd (Final) was much harder than the previous year. There was alot of bus-parking and counterattacking involved, but I'm chuffed with keeping the cup. The same cannot be said for the Europa League, where Celtic utterly annihilated me 6-2 on aggregate at the Quarter Final stage... but there's always next year, I guess. As for the FA Cup, currently waiting to play Stoke in the final.

And the Premier League? Well... pictures speak a thousand words, so take a look for yourself:
https://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/Secura87/PremierLeagueCrunchTime.jpg

One game remaining, against Manchester United themselves at Old Trafford... need I say more?

AggonyDuck

05-04-2010, 00:53

Whoah, what a way to decide the league.

Secura

05-04-2010, 02:35

Whoah, what a way to decide the league.

Oh, it was glorious. An utterly fantastic match, had me on the edge of my seat... you can see the outcome for yourself:
https://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/Secura87/FinalStandings.jpg

The best part is that the media quoted Alan Hanson, back when he said that Manchester United wouldn't win the Premier League with a young squad... managed to capture a screenie of it and my response:
https://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/Secura87/CantWinWithKids.jpg

I also managed to overcome Stoke 0-4, though I believe they just rolled over and let me win to be honest... so I also managed to add the FA Cup to West Brom's trophy cabinet... not a bad haul for my first season in the Premier League and second in-charge!

A nice message to end on from the newspapers:
https://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/Secura87/TrebleWinners.jpg

Hopefully the chairman will put all the prize money to good use and upgrade the stadium; I can't imagine teams like Barcelona coming to The Hawthornes when it can only seat 28,000 people. xD

drone

05-04-2010, 03:15

I don't know which would bring more ink in the press, a female manager winning the Treble, or an American manager winning the Treble. :laugh4: If you can get the FA to hire you for Euro 2012, bravo! :bow:

Secura

05-04-2010, 03:34

I don't know which would bring more ink in the press, a female manager winning the Treble, or an American manager winning the Treble. :laugh4:

You know, it's funny that the game never mentions my nationality whatsoever; I chose American solely because the inspiration for the name was from an American vocalist, but still... would've been nice to see my attachment to the dollar and mentioned or something. The game does mention me being female on-and-off, which is nice.

If you can get the FA to hire you for Euro 2012, bravo! :bow:

I had considered taking over from Fabio Capello, but considering he won the World Cup in 2010, I adopted a mantra of "if it's not broken...". I'll be rooting for the English contingent in my team all the way though. ^_^

King Flambard I

05-13-2010, 18:00

I have recently staerted a game as Man City. My first task was to sell the foreign players (apart from Tevez) and replaced them with young British and Irish players such as Shelvey, Delfonz, Mattock and Fleck. 3 games into the season, won two drawn one and sit in 4th spot. Safely through the second round of the cup. Arsenal up next. I can't wait for the youngsters to develop and gel!

Secura

05-14-2010, 12:48

I have recently staerted a game as Man City. My first task was to sell the foreign players (apart from Tevez) and replaced them with young British and Irish players such as Shelvey, Delfonz, Mattock and Fleck.

Wow, that's a pretty brave strategy... so you sold Toure, Adebayor, Kompany and such? I'm not surprised you kept Tevez, you'll need him to carry things while everyone else gets used to your tactics and such.

Mattock's great, by the way; he's only backup to Bale for me at the moment, but when the latter is injured... well, Mattock always plays like he'll never play again. As for Shelvey... sold him for £31m to Man City, so he's a good buy... :laugh4:

I can't wait for the youngsters to develop and gel!

It takes time, but the results are fantastic when you get to that point; it's the mainstays of the squad that become a pain in the bottom when they start saying they want to move clubs.

Currently, I'm in my third season at West Brom and my two best players are consistently requesting transfers to 'bigger clubs' such as Chelsea; the humourous thing is that West Brom are currently fifteen points clear in the Premier League, in the final of the Carling Cup for the third year in a row, fifth round of the FA Cup and in the knockout stages of the Champion's League... Chelsea are out of all competitions and currently 19th in the league! I just don't get it... -_-'

naut

05-14-2010, 13:45

I just don't get it... -_-'
Teams have a "reputation" stat. Plus the home city. Plus manager reputation. Plus player personality. All four go into the willingness of a player to stick around or request a move. A player with a loyal personality won't request a move, but an "ambitious" player will.

Secura

05-14-2010, 14:32

Teams have a "reputation" stat. Plus the home city. Plus manager reputation. Plus player personality. All four go into the willingness of a player to stick around or request a move. A player with a loyal personality won't request a move, but an "ambitious" player will.

Well, I downloaded the Real-Time Editor to check my stats and see what was wrong with the players; since winning the Premier League and FA Cup last season, West Brom's rep is now 7600-ish, which I believe will increase further if I manage to retain the Premiership and clinch the Champion's League... my own reputation is 'World Class' and the players are apparantly loyal AND ambitious.

Will winning the Champion's League keep them around? Or will I be resigned to sell them? They're both 24-ish, the CB/CDM is worth around £26.5m and the AMC/ST is worth about £36m... both are earning £60,000 p.w, my highest earners. My AMC managed to beat Andy Cole's 1995-set 34 goal record last season (he got 35 goals, ha) and looks set to smash his own record this season (23 league games played so far, 35 goals, only needs one more!), and my CB is the heart of the defensive line.

I could cash in, but I'd rather keep them to be honest. :<

Craterus

05-15-2010, 21:42

This 'journeyman' lark is starting to get tiresome. There aren't that many job opportunities in Europe - I refuse to apply lower than CCC, and I've only got the top divisions loaded for the other European nations. When there is a vacant , it's been filled within hours, before I've even had a chance to e-mail them a CV. And when I do manage to get an application in, they insist on picking terrible managers.

Now, I haven't technically achieved anything in Argentina yet, mid-table obscurity and the one heroic win against River Plate (haven't managed to get a win against Boca, San Lorenzo, Estudiantes or Banfield yet) but with the resources given, I'm not doing too badly. I know a lot of it is decided on this manager reputation stat but...it's frustrating to lose out to a manager with a Tactical Knowledge stat of 1.

I also apply for every international job going. It's probably the best way to raise my profile in Europe but I'm not always able to apply for the jobs, even when they're vacant. I'm told in my news feed/messages that the Jamaica manager has been fired. I go to the team screen and there's no 'apply for job' button in the top-right corner but when I check the staff, there's just an assistant manager and sometimes not even one of those. Guess they'd rather have nobody in control than me :cry:

~;)
Rather realistic really. Pellegrini/Scolari etc. spent a long time managing at club level in South America before wide-spread fame. Just losing patience and looking for a quick fix. Might move clubs within Argentina. Got offered the Newell's Old Boys job not long ago but they were on the verge of relegation.

AggonyDuck

05-16-2010, 00:55

In terms of keeping players around, generally just keep the asking price very high and when a manager claims interest in a player of yours instead of telling them to keep their hands off, just don't say anything. For some reason it is the comments you make that end up unsettling the player. If a player however does get unsettled, I usually use two methods. Either I just wait it out until he is happy enough to accept a new contract or I transfer list the player for say 100 million and let him be transfer listed for say a month or two. Usually after that time I can take him off the transfer list and he is willing to sign a new contract.

naut

05-16-2010, 06:09

Secura

05-16-2010, 09:38

My AMC has an asking price of £100m and my CB/CDM is £65m; I get the odd team taking a crack at the latter with apparant bids of £50m or so, but nobody actively pursues an interest in them... hopefully they'll both back down.

As for wages, I was trying to follow the Arsene wage structure; I don't want to get to the point where I'm paying a player £250,000 p.w like Eto'o, Ibrahimovic or Messi... I don't have all the sponsorship deals and stuff that the Barcas and Man Utds have. :<

Craterus

05-16-2010, 16:36

If players want to leave, I generally just let them go. You can usually get an equally capable replacement for half the transfer fee and a third of the wages. This is at the lower level though, mind.
Admittedly, with a top-tier team, the best players are harder and more expensive to replace. With Fiorentina, I just kept the asking prices high and renewed contracts before they were in their last year. Very occasionally, a team will match your inflated AP and the board might intervene. But you make enough money from the transfer that it's not usually a problem.

King Flambard I

05-16-2010, 20:41

Wow, that's a pretty brave strategy... so you sold Toure, Adebayor, Kompany and such? I'm not surprised you kept Tevez, you'll need him to carry things while everyone else gets used to your tactics and such.

Mattock's great, by the way; he's only backup to Bale for me at the moment, but when the latter is injured... well, Mattock always plays like he'll never play again. As for Shelvey... sold him for £31m to Man City, so he's a good buy... :laugh4:

It takes time, but the results are fantastic when you get to that point; it's the mainstays of the squad that become a pain in the bottom when they start saying they want to move clubs.

Currently, I'm in my third season at West Brom and my two best players are consistently requesting transfers to 'bigger clubs' such as Chelsea; the humourous thing is that West Brom are currently fifteen points clear in the Premier League, in the final of the Carling Cup for the third year in a row, fifth round of the FA Cup and in the knockout stages of the Champion's League... Chelsea are out of all competitions and currently 19th in the league! I just don't get it... -_-'

Yeah, I haven't gotten far into it yet but I really cannot wait for this. The first XI is still more than less made up of the current Man City side - Given, Richards, Bridge, Lescott, SWP, Johnson, Barry, Ireland, Bellamy and Tevez. The full squad then includes Taylor (waiting for Hart to come back) Ryan Taylor (Newc.) Mattock (Brom) Onouha Wilson (Rangers) Curtis Davies (Villa) Fleck (Rangers) Albrighton (Villa) Shelvey Rodwell (Everton) Baxter (Everton and Delfonz (West Ham).

Quite a nice little team I reckon. Currently filling my reserves with scouted players, British and Irish ofc.