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Teng Fuh
06-08-2001, 06:51
What does everybody else think is the most valuable province in the game. Yeah Koku is a factor, but what about defensibility, or honor bonus for troops produced there? Any sand for armouries?

Personally I like Shinano. Since I usually play as the Hojo, Uesugi, or Takeda (especially Takeda) I like the honor bonus and the fact I have never lost when defending that province. Its 340 (?) is nice in Koku, but you can also attack ten (?) provinces from it, making a very nice selection to hit from there.

Any others?

Anjin-san
06-08-2001, 07:36
Shinano. Yes, if I was Hojo or Uesagi and was pusing west, then this is a key province. You can hold here, while you advance. Any province in the Kwanto is worthwhile for it's koku alone.

The Black Ship
06-08-2001, 08:29
Got to vote for Yamashiro...EVERYTHING is an automatic honor 1, and the rest of Japan get's their noses rubbed into it that YOU are the Emperors favorite http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif

Dark Phoenix
06-08-2001, 10:07
Well I dont know if this the most important province but Owari is important I think. It is high defendable as a river province and has a high koku yield. I dont know if it offers any bonuses or has mines been to long since I have played a campaign. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

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Anssi Hakkinen
06-08-2001, 20:45
Shinano would be the best but it's surrounded by *everyone*, which means that anyone holding it is a target of everyone else.

Owari is really good, I concur. Defensible, high koku yield, with improved ashigaru *and* teppĂ´. If I wanted to be cornered in a single province, it would be this... (But I don't.)

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Hiroshi-O'Duff
06-09-2001, 01:05
I like Hitachi. Not only does it have the name of a major Manufacturer, but it has a HUGE income (620), sand for an armory, and it's on the SEA. Being on the sea is worth at least a few hundred koku in mid-game and end-game.

Being able to transport honor-3 monkeys with legendary armor and swords in a to the front lines in a single turn is worth a LOT of effort to attack and maintain.

Duff

Hosakawa Tito
06-09-2001, 01:23
Quote Originally posted by The Black Ship:
Got to vote for Yamashiro...EVERYTHING is an automatic honor 1, and the rest of Japan get's their noses rubbed into it that YOU are the Emperors favorite http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif[/QUOTE]
I have to agree with you there Black Ship.It is especially appealing to us Americans because of our obvious and well deserved superiority complex http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gifIn fact I think we should demand that it be renamed the United States of Amerishiro to reflect this dominance http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tongue.gif
Not to mention the fact that you can get high honor teppo(guns),is that poetic justice or what? http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif

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Kraellin
06-09-2001, 01:45
the most valuable province is the one with your taisho in it ;)

K.

06-09-2001, 02:41
Owari has the highest koku yield.

But I think that Shinano is v.imp because it is a real stepping stone for many other clans and provinces. Also, it produces better cavalry... http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

As for Yamashiro, its good for the +1 honour on all men trained there but the emporer's presence is not important in the game because he has little influence on you and your enemies.

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Shuko
06-09-2001, 09:52
Shinano

Key position and when you upgrade it x3 the units of YC and HC are almost unstoppable.

solypsist
06-09-2001, 12:13
shinano for most clans (mori and shimazu are too far to get to it easily).
armory availability plus the cav mods are very useful, and the ai seems to do its best to get it and keep it. campaign-wise, anything the ai wants, i want even worse.