Official 2009-10 NFL thread

[GeneralHankerchief]

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Now then, onto the good stuff. The 2008-09 season ended in exciting fashion with the Steelers defeating the Cardinals in Super Bowl XLIII. Since then, we've had a very interesting offseason, featuring draft picks, Brett Favre losing what was left of his credibility, and Michael Vick *cringe*. The new season will officially start Thursday when the Steelers play the Titans, with the rest of Week One to follow on Sunday. Here are my divisional predictions, plus comments:

NFC East: This is my home division, and thus I will be a little biased towards its inhabitants. A lot of pundits see this division as a dead heat between my Eagles and the New York Giants, and I agree with them. At the start of the preseason, I had to give the edge to the Eagles because they had the advantage in receivers, but now I'm not so sure. They've had a ton of injuries, more so than the Giants. Add in the fact that Vick will only serve to cause a ton of controversy (including screwing with McNabb's already-fragile ego), and I pick the Giants to win the division. Also, there is the matter of the Redskins, with Jim Zorn and Jason Campbell playing for a job. I think their desperation, plus the fact that this is an odd-numbered year, means that they will slightly beat out the T.O.-less Cowboys for third place.

Giants
Eagles (wild card)
Redskins
Cowboys

NFC North: Last year, I memorably picked the Lions to win the division, and they rewarded my faith by having the first 0-16 year in league history. :oops: So what am I going to do this time? Make another surprise pick and go with the Green Bay Packers to win it. My reasons for this are simple: Brett Favre is officially a cancer, and will find a way to singlehandedly lose games for the team, unfortunately for Adrian Peterson. In Chicago, Jay Cutler is in place and better than Kyle Orton, but the fact remains that he still has nobody to throw to. Add in an aging defense and Cutler's immaturity when he realizes that things won't be going his way, and you will have a quickly-fading Bears, leaving Green Bay the winner by process of elimination. In Detriot, Stafford and Calvin Johnson will do enough to win three games.

Packers
Vikings
Bears
Lions

NFC South: The kookiest division in the league, by far. I'm going to take the easy way out of this one and pick the Saints, following the "last place makes a big jump" rule, even though New Orleans has burned me before. Their offense is simply too good to be kept down for long. N.O.'s only real competition is Atlanta, who look to continue their startling progress in Year 2 of the Matt Ryan era. As a matter of fact, Atlanta could win the division, but they could also miss out by one game (or even a tiebreaker) and not even make the playoffs. Farther down the list, the Panthers simply cannot trust Jake Delhomme, and the Bucs are rebuilding.

Saints
Falcons (wild card)
Panthers
Buccaneers

NFC West: There's simply no way that the Seattle Seahawks will have as many injuries as they did last year, and as such, I expect them to make a big rebound in 2009 under new coach Jim Mora. They need a better running back situation, but Matt Hasselbeck is a pro and the defense is still good. I think they'll edge out the Cardinals to win the division, as a combination of a loss of coaching staff, Warner's brittleness, and the Super Bowl loser's curse will make Arizona the last team out of the playoffs. In San Francisco, Mike Singletary is leading the 49ers in the right direction, but they're still a year or two away. St. Louis under Steve Spagnuolo is even farther than that.

Seahawks
Cardinals
49ers
Rams

AFC East: The New England Patriots appear ready for another rebound, and considering they won 11 games without Tom Brady last year, they appear ready to challenge for the Super Bowl once again. The Miami Dolphins under Tony Sparano last year surprised everybody with a ten-win turnaround, but they're still not overly-talented and play a meat grinder of a schedule this year, dropping them back to mediocrity, at least for this year. Mark Sanchez of the Jets is exciting everybody with his play, but needs to be surrounded by more weapons before this team can truly challenge New England for supremacy. The Owens signing in Buffalo will turn out to be a huge mistake and I sense a bottoming-out year for the Bills that will (hopefully) clean house afterwards.

Patriots
Dolphins
Jets
Bills

AFC North: One of the three contenders for "best division in football", and the clear winner for "nastiest", the North produced the two entrants in the AFC title game last year and looks to do so again. I'm going to say that Joe Flacco's improved play will edge Baltimore over Pittsburgh in the battle for the division this year, but the Steelers will still grab a wild-card spot. Both teams will leave the Bengals and Browns in the dust. Cincinnati's window of opportunity from 2006 has almost slammed shut, and the Browns need to sort out a lot of offensive issues before they can regain their 2007 form. I'll nudge the Browns over the Bengals for 3rd place because they appear to be less of a circus at this point in time.

Ravens
Steelers (wild card)
Browns
Bengals

AFC South: Pundits have predicted the doom of the Colts for years now, and appear to be doing so again with the departure of Tony Dungy and forced retirements of some of their other coaches. However, as long as they have Peyton Manning, I don't see it happening. The rest of the division is a madhouse, with the powerful Titans, ready-to-break-through Texans, and dangerous Jaguars all ready to unseat Indy. I'll say Houston comes closest, with Matt Schaub finally putting together a healthy season. Jacksonville will finish third at either 9-7 or 8-8 but miss out on the playoffs. In Tennessee, the Titans will feel the loss of Albert Haynesworth and realize that it's probably not a good idea to trust Kerry Collins for two back-to-back seasons. I predict they will slip back into mediocrity.

Colts
Texans (wild card)
Jaguars
Titans

AFC West: This division is a mess, plain and simple. The Chargers are clearly the team to beat, but Norv Turner is still their coach and they may be without Shawne Merriman again if the bizarre Tila Tequila story is to be believed. In one offseason, Josh McDaniels has alienated the Broncos' two best players, Cutler and Marshall, and has everybody questioning his prowess as a coach before the team took one snap. The Raiders are still the Raiders, with Russell still looking unimpressive and their new head coach, Tom Cable, possibly breaking one of his assistant coaches' jaw. The only real team to avoid bad headlines in the West is the Kansas City Chiefs, who are simply not talented enough to contend.

Chargers
Chiefs
Raiders
Broncos

Final predictions:
NFC: Eagles over Giants
AFC: Patriots over Steelers
Super Bowl: Eagles over Patriots

Let's have a good season, everybody. :2thumbsup: If you do decide to take part in the Total War pool, Week One predictions are due by the Thursday game.

-edit- Crap, I forgot to do a poll. Can I get an assist from the mods on this one?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

My reasons for this are simple: Brett Favre is officially a cancer, and will find a way to singlehandedly lose games for the team,

It seems Brad Childress vastly misunderstood the "Cash for Clunkers" program.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Thanks to Hosa for getting the poll in order. :bow:

[Hosakawa Tito]

Not a problem, amazingly I didn't even screw it up on the first try. I must be slipping.

[KukriKhan]

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[Strike For The South]

I like the vikings chances this year. To many weapons, say what you want about Brett but if he doesn't try and wins games singlehandedly the Vikings will roll in the NFC

[GeneralHankerchief]

I like the vikings chances this year. To many weapons, say what you want about Brett but if he doesn't try and wins games singlehandedly the Vikings will roll in the NFC

That, my friend, is a morbidly obese "if".

[Strike For The South]

That, my friend, is a morbidly obese "if".

If he does it will be mind boggling he has a future HOF'er and a guy who is going to be good for at least 4 pro bowls in the backfield.

Brett isn't stupid, Remember in the 90s he went to two super bowls and won one. Remember the NFC was also the harder confrence. In Green Bay he DID have to win single handeldly. Im sure many QBs would kill to have a supporting cast that included Dorsey Levens and Mark Chumura.

Green Bay won games becuase of Farve, that's why he is such a cult hero. He went to New York, tried to do the same thing and it worked for about six weeks until his age started to show.

The Vikings are the most loaded team in the leauge bar New England. There divison is middle of the pack at best (Detriot is horrid and Chicago and Green Bay are on the fence with me)

What I worry about is the locker room chem. No one likes a big shot coming in late and doing what he wants. Thats what you have to worrt about.

[drone]

I can finally root for the Cowboys to win the Superbowl, now that TO is gone (I don't want him to get a ring). Not going to happen, but I can dream. :juggle2:

[seireikhaan]

Oh yeah. Time to defend ma title. :boxing:

Now, as for division picks:

AFC East- I may not terribly like them, but the Patriots are my pick to win this division. They've got the most talent and experience then anyone else by leaps and bounds. I'm calling the Dolphins for a second place spot, but no wild card. The Bills I sense a mediocre year from- their o-line in in bad shape, and I don't get good vibes from the Owens signing. However, I'm calling the Jets for last place. Simply pu, the QB situation is not good, and the team is in a bit of an overhaul year.
1. Pats
2. Dolphins
3. Bills
4. Jets

AFC North- I'm going to call the division for the Steelers. I think they're simply the most well put together of all the teams, with the most different ways of finding ways to win games. They won the super bowl for a reason. The next pick I may regret. I'm going to call a second place finish for the Bengals. There's always weird quirks from year to year, and this is my quirk. With Palmer back, I'm calling an 8-8 rollercoaster for the bengals. Third place I'm picking the Ravens to fall off. I feel they over achieved last year, and I'm not sold on Flacco as a starting QB in the NFL just yet. The defense is getting older, and I think they'll take a dive to 7-9 or so. Lastly, the Browns. Like the Jets, they don't have a very resolved QB situation, and the team as a whole is still very young, with a new head coach.
1. Steelers
2. Bengals
3. Ravens
4. Browns

AFC South- Well, I might be biased, but I think this is the best division in football. The Colts have lost a fair bit over the offseason, but I think we'll find a way to win the division once more, though we might not hit the 12 win mark. The rest is pretty durned tricky, and could realistically be left to coin flip. The Titans I think will be very, very solid once more, given a very strong running game and a good defense, even without Haynseworth. I'm going to pick them for a second place, and a wild card. Third place, I'm going to pick the Texans. They've been hitting a glass ceiling for a few years now, and this year, I think they break through with an over .500 record and grabbing the second wild card spot. As long as Schaub stays on the field, the offense should hum nicely, and the defense is getting better every year. Lastly, the poor Jags get last almost by default. I'm figuring that Del Rio will be fired after this year, when they'll go under .500 once more. The loss of Fred Taylor will hurt more than they realize, I think. The defense, I think, will struggle once more with pass rush, and the team will get frustrated under Del Rio's increasingly harsh locker room demeanor.
1. Colts
2. Titans (Wild Card)
3. Texans (Wild Card)
4. Jaguars

AFC West- Wow, what a mess. Chargers win this division almost by default, with the Chiefs lacking talent, the Broncos lacking cohesiveness of any sort, and the Raiders a complete boondoggle mess on almost every level.
1. Chargers
2. Chiefs
3. Broncos
4. Raiders

NFC East- I'm going to call this for the Eagles. I think they've got plenty of talent on both sides to withstand the loss of Jim Johnson to win this. I don't think the Vick signing will hurt as much in the locker room as people think. Then the Giants, who get a wild card spot thanks to strong running game and defense, with enough air support from Eli to get a solid 10-6 or so record. The 'Skins are a bit of a puzzle for me, so I'll defer to GH and just trust that they'll get third, which leaves the 'Boys for fourth. This is more wishful thinking than anything else, as I don't really care for Jerry Jones.
1. Eagles
2. Giants(wild card)
3. Redskins
4. Cowboys

NFC South- I'm picking the Panthers here. I've been hearing some good things about the progress of their passing game thus far, which, combined with their exceedingly strong offensive line and running game, will make for a very tough to stop team. The defense should be pretty solid as well. Second place, and grabbing the second wild card spot, I'm picking the Falcons. Still a young team, but Ryan should make strong progress his second year with team, and the running game should be very good as well. The main kicker for me is their defense, which is why I'm picking them behind the Panthers. Third, and missing out on the playoffs, will be a Saints team which will be fun to watch, but only about average in terms of winning. I don't see the running game holding up, and I don't see their defense being able to stop the aforementioned two teams. That leaves the Bucs, with the messiest QB situation in the league and a new, young head coach. Definitely a rebuilding year.
1. Panthers
2. Falcons(wild card)
3. Saints
4. Buccaneers.

NFC North- Not quite sure about here, so I'll just go with gut instinct and personal bias. First, the Packers. Most talent across the board, period. Second, the Bears. Defense should be ok, running game ok, passing game might be ok. In this division, that's good enough for second place. Third place, the Lions. Won't be a good third place team, but they'll manage. Last place? The Vikings. Most likely won't happen, but I rather hope it does. Brett Favre's past achievements should not allow him to do whatever he wants, and I hope the locker room revolts as soon as he throws his fifteenth foolish interception simply because he can't gun it like he used to. Plus, he's pushing out two other guys who've been working hard to try and earn a starting QB spot, and he waltzes in having done zero for the vikes and gets the spot. :no:
1. Packers
2. Bears
3. Lions
4. Vikings

NFC West- Probably the division I know least about. I'm going with the Cardinals first, since their starting QB is a UNI grad. Seahawks second, on account of their backup QB being an ISU grad. The Rams will get third place, since their previous starting QB was a UNI grad, and the 49'ers get last for not paying more attention to the state of Iowa. :whip:
1. Cardinals
2. Seahawks
3. Rams
4. 49'ers

NFC- Panthers over Cardinals
AFC- Colts over Patriots
Super Bowl- Colts over Panthers

[Strike For The South]

The Vikings behind the Lions?!?!?!?!?!!? Poppycock I say.

I may as well do one of these division things as I have some time to kill

AFC East: The Pats are quite simply going to run train on this division. Anything less than 7-1 in there divison and it's a dissapointment. None of the other teams really do much for me, the Dolphins are scrappy but nuerotic and injury prone. The Jets just suck and the Bills have more questions than a 49 cent taco. Saying all this I see Buffalo number 2 becuase Lee Evans and TO will give 2ndaries fits

1. Patriots
2. Bills
3. Dolphins
4. Jets

AFC North: I see the Steelers and I see 3 teams who could go 8-8. My favorite darkhorse is always Cincy but I can't bring myself to pick them even with a healthy Palmer. The Browns still have an unresolved suituation at QB and the Ravens keep getting older on D and lost there young all pro but yet I still like them and 4 games against the Ohio teams should help.

1. Steelers
2. Ravens (wild card)
3. Bangels
4. Browns

AFC South: Very tough here as all 4 teams could be contenders. The Colts will get theres but I do sense a drop off, You hate to pick against a guy like Manning but with that hospital ward known as there defense I feel this is the year the Colts finally get knocked off and pass there crown to the TEXANS. That's right I'm picking the HOUSTON TEXANS to win the south. Tennesse and Jacksonville simply don't strike as having the same hunger as Schaub and Kubiak

1. TEXANS
2. Colts (wild card)
3. Titans
4. Jags

AFC West: Worst division in football. Have a happy first round bye San Diego and then be prepared to be knocked out by the Colts

1. Chargers
2. Cheifs
3. Raiders
4. Broncos

NFC East: This divison, while not on everyones radar is still a tough cookie. The Giants, Cowboys, and Eagels all retain a core of guys who are players. I'm picking the Giants to win and the Eagles to snatch the WC. While I think as a personel decison the Vick signing made no sense it did piss off McNab who in my book is still a top 5 QB. The Giants have all the peices, there is no reason to pick agianst them. The Cowboys strike me as eh, we need a new QB Romo just doesn't cut it. **** the Redskins

1. Giants
2. Eagels (wild card)
3. Cowboys



4. Redskins

NFC South: I want to like Atlanta...I really really do but I don't know how they won 11 games last year and I sure don't know how they could do it again this year. Carolina is the safe choice solid everywhere around but no WOW factor (save D'angelo maybe) The Saints have Pierre whom I love but outside of him there isn't much...Eh I'm picking Hotlanta

1. Falcons
2. Panthers
3. Saints
4. Buccs

NFC North: I love the Vikings..this is the most excited I've been about a team in a whie. A HOF QB and HB!!!! They simply have all the peices in place and they know it. Now if Childress can just stay out of the way...The Bears have Cutler but the Pack has Rodgers and he's better therefore Green Bay gets the nod and the WC. The Lions have a Texan starting for them (Then again who doesn't?) but other than that there still the Lions.

1. Vikes
2. Pack (wild card)
3. Da'Bears
4. Lions

NFC West: What a crapshoot. Some much upside, so much downside. Seattle's good but Hassleback is old and decript. Frisco is young and firery but there also young and firery. Zona seems like the safe pick but I'm pretty sure that if you choose the Cardinals to win there division back to back years the apocolypse reigns down upon you. As for the Rams I like Stephen Jackson but there just bad.

1. Seahawks
2. Cards
3. 49'ers
4. Rams

AFC Champ: Patriots over Steelers
NFC Champ: Vikings over Giants
Super Bowl: Pats over Vikes

I don't pick agianst Brady in the playoffs.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I like the vikings chances this year. To many weapons, say what you want about Brett but if he doesn't try and wins games singlehandedly the Vikings will roll in the NFC

Joking aside, I agree. The only Jets game I saw last year was when favre cut the previously undefeated Titans to pieces, so maybe that distorted my view. But it seems like with peterson all the vikings need is a qb who can manage the game well and be decent.

AFC North is the only division I'll make predictions for...I would say it's a toss up between the ravens and the steelers. It depends on how flacco improves.

I predict the bengals will hit 9-7, a solid 3rd place.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Picks made. I really don't have much of a clue about the teams this year, so a lot was guesswork. :sweatdrop:

CR

[Ice]

Steelers as always!

[GeneralHankerchief]

First game tonight, anyone else excited? I'll probably be switching back between Steelers/Titans, the Phillies game on local TV, and actually doing work for school surfing the interwebs.

[seireikhaan]

First game tonight, anyone else excited? I'll probably be switching back between Steelers/Titans, the Phillies game on local TV, and actually doing work for school surfing the interwebs.
I, for one, and exceedingly glad my night class was wednesday and not tonight. :yes:

Gotta see how the Titans look this season.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Looking forward to it. Didn't the titans beat the steelers last year? Was looking forward to a rematch in the playoffs, but then chris johnson got injured in the ravens game and they ended up losing.

Bengals home opener will probably be blacked out :(

Hopefully I can watch the vikings destroy the browns instead, maybe put something over the bottom of the screen so the scores don't get spoiled.

[drone]

Bengals home opener will probably be blacked out :(

There's going to be a lot of that going around. :embarassed: The NFL is going to have to change that rule this year or the next, the TV contracts are too expensive for the networks to lose that ad revenue.

[GeneralHankerchief]

There's going to be a lot of that going around. :embarassed: The NFL is going to have to change that rule this year or the next, the TV contracts are too expensive for the networks to lose that ad revenue.

A crappy substitute, but at least it's something (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4462104).

[Sasaki Kojiro]

A crappy substitute, but at least it's something (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4462104).

They showed the blacked out preseason games on tape delay at 11:30 here. Assume they'll do the same with the regular season games.

-edit-

Apparently not...I guess I'll have to go with the nfl.com thing. At least the vikings are my 2nd favorite team...

[drone]

A crappy substitute, but at least it's something (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4462104).

That's all well and good with the fans (actually, no it's not, but it's something), but it does not help the networks any. CBS paid $3.7 billion to broadcast AFC games through 2011. If they lose significant airtime in markets like Oakland, Cincy, and Jax, they lose ad money and the contract value will be less when they renegotiate (probably some time next year). The TV contract is huge for the NFL, especially since the fan experience at games is pretty craptacular these days. Overpriced tickets/parking/concessions, PSLs, and other general shafting ruins the gameday experience, it's better to watch on TV now anyways. We may be at a tipping point where the fans can actually fight back, costing owners both at the gate and at the negotiating table.

Combine the increasing blackouts, the upcoming TV contract talks, and the potential lockout/strike in 2011, we have some interesting times coming.

[Hosakawa Tito]

I used to go to a couple of Bills games a year, but not lately. The concessions are outrageously expensive. The pre-poured beer sold in cups is poured hours before game time and stored on cooler racks. No beer sales after half-time.

The tail-gate party before the game was the best part about the day. No matter how bad the team was or how crappy the weather, the barbeque & beers with friends and family made it fun.

Now, the cost of the tickets & the shakedown by concessions, security, crazy traffic....I'd rather not bother. I usually don't even watch the games on tv any more and we do usually something else on Sunday. Especially since the Bills appear to have thrown in the towel for 2009 before the first game.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Wow, a lot of consensus for this week's picks.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Hmm. My only against the grain pick is Miami over Atlanta.


The concessions are outrageously expensive.

So true. Maybe this'll be the year they realize they can't keep shafting fans forever. :juggle2:

CR

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Hmm. My only against the grain pick is Miami over Atlanta.

Mine was Tennessee. Bironas :furious3:

-edit-

Great game though.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Great start to the year. Can't get much better than overtime.

and Sasaki already falling behind :grin:

[seireikhaan]

All in all, a pretty good way to open the season. A fun-to-watch game, and a Titans loss. :beam:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Great start to the year. Can't get much better than overtime.

and Sasaki already falling behind :grin:

It was the right pick :wall:

If bironas hadn't missed two kicks and if the titans had let chris collinsworth be their defensive coordinator in the second half the would have won.


*******

It seems like polomolu is out 3-6 weeks :no:

The madden curse I guess.

[Hosakawa Tito]

It was the right pick :wall:

If bironas hadn't missed two kicks and if the titans had let chris collinsworth be their defensive coordinator in the second half the would have won.


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It seems like polomolu is out 3-6 weeks :no:

The madden curse I guess.

The fickle Football Gods strike again. And the dog woulda caught the rabbit if he hadn't stopped to :daisy:.
I'm looking to make hay with my CHI over GB & NYJ over HOU.:sweatdrop: I'll probably be singing the refrain to your chorus.

Watch DET come out and bite us all in the butt. Kukri love that!:yes:

[Strike For The South]

Wow. Jacksonville better beat Indy or else I'll be behind the seven guys in 1st!:laugh4:

[GeneralHankerchief]

I think khaan and I are the only ones who don't have any upset picks.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

No blackout in cincy! Thank you Kroger!

If you want to see what games are showing you in your area you can check at this guys website:

http://the506.com/nflmaps/index.html

[KukriKhan]

Watch DET come out and bite us all in the butt. Kukri love that!

Heh. Small chance (most online sports books have it Nawlins by 13.5; Ha! Therefore, I took them as a long-shot in my workplace pool). The Lions' best shot this year is early in the season, before anybody else gets hurt, against teams that prepare poorly, thinking DET is a push-over.

That said, I'll count a 5-11 season for them as an "epic win" on the comeback trail. :)

[GeneralHankerchief]

Wow, Chiefs-Ravens has proven to be interesting. KC just took the lead 14-10. Their offense has been nonexistent but Baltimore's made a ton of mistakes.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Well, this one of those defeats you can laugh at. With a bengal lead and 20 seconds left, orton's pass is deflected and hits stokely in stride, 87 yard touchdown.

:dizzy2:

[Crazed Rabbit]

GO PACKERS!

Wow, what a great finish! :beam: I tell ya, after the field goal by Chicago, I was really worried.

CR

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Cutler's receivers really let him down.

Looks like we all did pretty good this week, hosa is the winner though, congrats.

[Martok]

Well thank goodness for AP. He bailed out an all-too-obviously still-rusty Favre (although Brett did seem to loosen up a bit in the second half). Still, he's going to have to a lot better than he did today if the Vikings are going to get anywhere this season.



GO PACKERS!

Wow, what a great finish! :beam: I tell ya, after the field goal by Chicago, I was really worried.

CR
In truth, we had quite a few good games this weekend; a lot of them came down to the final minutes. Still, congratulations are definitely in order for Green Bay -- they played some gutsy ball tonight. ~:cheers:

[seireikhaan]

Hmm... Indeed some good games. Could've gotten a better start on my trek to defending my championship belt, tough. :juggle2:

[Strike For The South]

Well, I got burned with Cincy and Jacksonville. It really is a game of inches

[Martok]

Well, I got burned with Cincy and Jacksonville. It really is a game of inches
I concur. Of all the games this weekend, those were probably the two I had the hardest time making my picks.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Heh, I go look at the pool site, see we were all wrong on the Patriots game, get concerned, go to the television and see that the Pats have scored. And then I see a wacky play to end it all from the Bills.
:2thumbsup:
CR

[Sasaki Kojiro]

The bills blew that game...

[Martok]

....And yet *another* crazy, down-to-the-wire game tonight! I was worried the Chargers were going to lose after all, but they pulled it out in the end. :2thumbsup:



The bills blew that game...
To some extent, perhaps, but not entirely; at least some credit has to go to the Pats' offense. Brady was looking pretty sharp from what I saw, and he's long since proved he's hard to defend against once he's found his groove.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

....And yet *another* crazy, down-to-the-wire game tonight! I was worried the Chargers were going to lose after all, but they pulled it out in the end. :2thumbsup:



To some extent, perhaps, but not entirely; at least some credit has to go to the Pats' offense. Brady was looking pretty sharp from what I saw, and he's long since proved he's hard to defend against once he's found his groove.

I was thinking of the "why take a knee in the endzone when you can run it back and fumble it?" play...

Well, he didn't have to take a knee necessarily but he could have gone down without trying to fight for yards.

Chargers defense is looking very suspect.

[drone]

Two supposedly lousy teams had two supposedly great teams on the ropes, and then reverted to form. :yes: I'm surprised we didn't get at least one coach meltdown in the post-game interviews. :furious3:

On the Bills late return/fumble: the kickoff was at 2:05 IIRC, if he had taken a knee in the endzone they would have had to kill an extra play due to the two minute warning. So running it out and taking up time was the right move. But he should have just charged out with both arms around the ball and gone down as soon as he was wrapped up.

[Strike For The South]

Tom Brady just puts it into another gear. Playing bad all night and BOOM. The Pats somehow win the game. The Bills killed themselves with mistakes and penalties. I'm impressed with them.

[Hosakawa Tito]

Well, I got burned with Cincy and Jacksonville. It really is a game of inches


Denver's win was about as fluky as it gets, sometimes I think this game is rigged.

The Bills will break your heart as they prove time after time. Except for the J. Kelly/B. Polian era it's the same old same old. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.


Cutler's receivers really let him down.

Looks like we all did pretty good this week, hosa is the winner though, congrats.

When your #1 receiver is everyone elses #3 or #4 it's going to be a long season if you have to play catch up.
Everyone picked very well, especially for week 1 when it's toughest to gauge between the hype, hope, and reality.

Biggest let down of Week 1: Arizona playing at home after their amazing SuperBowl run last year comes out flat and goes splat against the Niners. Bookies everywhere made a killing on that game.

Biggest surprise of Week 1: The Jets punching an up & coming Houston squad in the mouth with a rookie QB showing a supposedly superior offense in Texas how it's done. Bookies everywhere are salivating over the upcoming Jets hype and are going to have plenty of suckers to skin for the inevitable rookie let down.

[Csargo]

How's McNabb doing?

[Hosakawa Tito]

Cracked rib. He probably can't even cough let alone breath easily. And since a QB needs his core/intercoastal muscles to throw I doubt he can play this week. Looks like Jeff Garcia will be handing off to Westbrook a lot.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Cracked rib. He probably can't even cough let alone breath easily. And since a QB needs his core/intercoastal muscles to throw I doubt he can play this week. Looks like Jeff Garcia will be handing off to Westbrook a lot.

Nope, it's the least-promising 2nd round draft choice of all time, Kevin Kolb. Garcia's a backup.

In other words, I have much fear.

[GeneralHankerchief]

CR and Kukri, don't forget to make your picks. :yes:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

We had problems last year with people not realizing that the page had timed out I remember.

I think we'll see more variety this week, there were 5 pretty tough matchups.

[Martok]

I think we'll see more variety this week, there were 5 pretty tough matchups.
For this weekend, there were 6 games that I had a hard time deciding on. I strongly suspect I'm not going to do so well this time around....

[coalition]

AFL is better :2thumbsup:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Man, I hate the NFL's stupid TV rules. Because I live in DC the only game available to me is Redskins-Rams while I have to rely on ESPN's GameCast and the occasional game break to keep up with Eagles-Saints.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Man, I hate the NFL's stupid TV rules. Because I live in DC the only game available to me is Redskins-Rams while I have to rely on ESPN's GameCast and the occasional game break to keep up with Eagles-Saints.

Heh, for some reason I'm getting the Green Bay game, which is great. But switching to other channels and seeing Women's bowling on espn and Nascar (in the pacific NW!) on some other local channel is odd.

CR

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Booyeah!!!!!!!

Antwan Odom is my new favorite bengal. 5 sacks, two of which knocked the packers out of fieldgoal range.

Defense looks great, the packers only had 1 real offensive touchdown.

Carson Palmer is awfully rusty though.

[Crazed Rabbit]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....*gasps*....nooooo...argh...*collapses*

Odom is a force unto himself. :shame:

CR

[Martok]

Ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh.


Of all the "iffy" games so far, the Atlanta/Carolina match-up is the only one that I've called correctly. In every other case, I wound up picking the loser. :wall: Not an auspicious start to the weekend.

The real shockers so far (at least for me) have been Green Bay, Jacksonville, and New England. I wouldn't have given any of their opponents a snowball's chance in hell of winning today. :no:

Don't get wrong: Personally, I'm delighted that the Packers and Patriots lost. I never would've predicted that that would actually *happen*, however. :dizzy2:


In other news, my Vikings managed to beat a still-poor (albeit rapidly improving) Lions team by a relatively modest margin. Given all the talent Minnesota has on its roster, it's disturbing we beat them by "only" 14 points. If Favre and the offense don't start gelling on a more consistent basis in the next week or two -- we cannot rely exclusively on Adrian Petersen and Percy Harvin to pull our butts out of the fire all the time -- it's going to be a rough season. We're lucky in that we have a soft schedule this first month; after that, however, things are going to get much harder.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Houston :2thumbsup:

Philly :wall:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I got to watch the bengals win and then the steelers lose :beam:

Unfortunately the ravens pulled out a victory.

Bengals beating the packers wasn't a big surprise to me, I saw both teams play last week. Bengals got killed by penalties and dropped balls last week. Only one drop this week, of course 13 penalties and two interceptions :no: but our offense moved well.

I really didn't see houston, chicago or san francisco winning though. I guess hasselbecks injury helped that.

Congrats on the win this week GH :yes:

Jets beating NE is not a huge surprise either, I had trouble picking in that game. NE looked shaky vs buffalo, and are missing mayo and welker.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Well, Jerry can't be too happy about his new stadium's debut. Last-second loss to your archrival on prime-time TV.

Was a really good game though.

[Csargo]

Terrible game. T-E-R-R-I-B-L-E

[Martok]

Bleh. Need to drink more beer....

[Strike For The South]

The 'Boys gave that one away! I'm so dissapointed!

As for my picks, it looks like I'm racing towards the bottom!

[drone]

The 'Boys gave that one away! I'm so dissapointed!

Yup. Same as last year, plenty of talent, but mental hiccups and no discipline. 9-7, here we go! :no:

[seireikhaan]

:dizzy2:

:2thumbsup:

Pheww...

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Miami has to learn how to not drop balls...colts are giving me a scare though, I picked them both weeks as a sure thing but they barely pull out a win.


VV A slow two minute drill too...

[Crazed Rabbit]

That was one slow offense by Miami.

CR

[Martok]

Well that makes it official: I SUUUUCKED this week! Seriously, I'm pretty certain this is the fewest wins I've had since we started this last year (the two weeks where my picks didn't get entered at all notwithstanding). :embarassed:



Miami has to learn how to not drop balls...colts are giving me a scare though, I picked them both weeks as a sure thing but they barely pull out a win.


VV A slow two minute drill too...
There's a reason the Dolphins were my upset pick of the week. If they're to continue winning, the Colts need to get their act together quickly (not unlike the Vikings....).

[GeneralHankerchief]

We all have our bad weeks, Martok. I'm pretty sure I'll lay a 3-win egg somewhere down the stretch. You just got yours out of the way early, that's all.

As for the game, that was an... interesting... two-minute drill, to say the least. Odd, because usually Sparano is more on top of things than that.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

There's 5 tough picks again next week...hmm.

I wonder if this year picking cincy every game will actually help me ~D

[KukriKhan]

Heh. Poking through the various comparison stats on poolHost.com, it turns out that we, as a group, run a 53.37% chance of picking a winner of any particular game, ranking us 1,474th among over 4,000 pools (the top-scoring pool picks correctly 78.75% of the time - but they've only got 3 guys making picks).

Overall, we're doing well; considerably better than my workplace pool (with 40 players, running 39% accurate as a group; this week's top picker (and winner of $200) got 12 picks correct, and tied with 2 other players - the tie broken by MNF total points scored).

[Sasaki Kojiro]

https://i37.tinypic.com/28v7tyw.gif

I do feel for the cowboys...although at least this didn't happen with 20 seconds left in the game.

[drone]

Finally, the beleaguered people of Detroit catch a break: the Skins-Lions game will be blacked out (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4500240) in local markets. We in the DC area, however, will still be subjected to this atrocity. :no:

Hope the Lions win for 2 reasons. As a Dallas fan, this would help sooth what looks to be a mediocre season ahead. And as a DC-area resident, the latest sport-talk radio has been absolute gold. :clown:

[Martok]

I must be out of my mind: I actually picked Detroit to beat Washington, and Cincy to beat Pittsburgh.

May the gods have mercy on me. :sweatdrop:

[KukriKhan]

I must be out of my mind: I actually picked Detroit to beat Washington, and Cincy to beat Pittsburgh.

May the gods have mercy on me. :sweatdrop:

If its any consolation, you're not alone on the road to insanity. :)

At least on the Lions pick.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I have a terrible feeling that this week is going to be like the last one for me :sweatdrop:

CR

[GeneralHankerchief]

I have a terrible feeling that this week is going to be like the last one for me :sweatdrop:

CR

Yeah, I don't particularly have a good feeling about this week either.

-edit- Woohoo! Eagles-Chiefs is on CBS in DC! :cheerleader:

[Crazed Rabbit]

A last minute change to a Chicago victory for me. I just read Hasselback isn't playing, one of many injuries for Seattle. Even the 12th man won't give them the win.

CR

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Heh, looks like most people picked detroit.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Congrats to the Lions. :2thumbsup:

-edit- DC sports talk radio should be really fun to listen to this week. :laugh4:

[Crazed Rabbit]

I guess on the plus side, Minnesota lost ...

Oh, wait. I guess I get a point instead. Hmm, which would have been better...:juggle2:

I'll be interested to see if Seattle can win. Oh, and be sure to share any golden moments from DC radio. :clown:

CR

[Martok]

HOW ABOUT 'DEM VIKINGS

[GeneralHankerchief]

Is that... enthusiasm and... *gasp* optimism I detect, Martok? :laugh4:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Palmer is still looking very rusty...at least he isn't throwing interceptions. And our defenders keep whiffing on sacks, but then again it's roethlisburger.

[Hosakawa Tito]

If its any consolation, you're not alone on the road to insanity. :)

At least on the Lions pick.

The Lions were a good pick this week. Odds were they were going to break that winless streak sooner than later, and the Skin's haven't been playing very well lately. Congrats to the long suffering Lions and their fans.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Bengals win!!!

I'm not even angry at our long snapper for his 2nd botched snap this year, seeing as we would never have completed that 4th and 10 to the 5 yard line if a field goal would have tied it.

-edit-

The steelers have the same record as the lions.

[Ice]

Bengals win!!!

I'm not even angry at our long snapper for his 2nd botched snap this year, seeing as we would never have completed that 4th and 10 to the 5 yard line if a field goal would have tied it.

-edit-

The steelers have the same record as the lions.

:embarassed:

[seireikhaan]

Well, Colts gave up quite a few more yards than I would have liked, but overall, a good win. Nice to see Pierre get another td.

[Martok]

Is that... enthusiasm and... *gasp* optimism I detect, Martok? :laugh4:
I have no comment at this time....

[Ramses II CP]

What can I say about the Raiders? Russell looks like a fat Ryan Leaf. The O-line should just quit and let him get his head beaten in for awhile so he at least earns that fat contract and entertain us all.

Supposedly he still plays great in practice, he's just got nothing in the game. No leadership, no timing, no sense. Some people blame the franchise attitude, and maybe that's a factor, but part of a QB's job is to lead his team out of that kind of funk.

Thank goodness KC is on the schedule again. :thumbsdown:

:egypt:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Found on a concrete column in the visitors locker room at the new cowboys stadium...

https://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1663/manningagain.jpg

******************


Looking forward to seeing chad score a touchdown with his all-pink accessories.

[GeneralHankerchief]

That is amazing. :laugh4:

[GeneralHankerchief]

CBS: Ravens-Patriots.
Fox: Redskins-Bucs.

:laugh4:

[Crazed Rabbit]

What is going on in Chicago?! :dizzy2:

CR

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Man, cribbs is killing us :no:

[seireikhaan]

On the one hand- GAH! Missed the picks this week. :furious3:

On the other hand- w00t! Colts looking strong thus far. :2thumbsup:

[KukriKhan]

What is going on in Chicago?! :dizzy2:

CR

That's what I wanna know, too. Looks like Detroit struck early, Chicago fought back, Detroit pushed harder, then Ch-town ran up the score. (All that speculation coming from the changing scores).

Any injuries? Turnovers?

Guess I'll have to wait for ESPN to fill me in. Neither Fox nor CBS are enlightening.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

We officially have the worst long snapper in the history of football...2 field goals and 2 extra points missed this year because of bad snaps. Lost the broncos game and almost lost the steelers and browns games because of that #$%^& :furious3:

edit: also, we may have had 3 players hurt in the OT we would never have gone too if he hadn't made us miss the FG and point after...

[Crazed Rabbit]

That's serious trouble there, Sasaki.

Also, the Titans supposedly get more desperate with every game, and keep losing. Lousy nogoodniks. Indy's going to play them next week, right? Gee, wonder who I'll pick for that game.

CR

[GeneralHankerchief]

TOUCHDOWN BRONCOS. Wow.

Does this mean Denver is for real?

-edit- Wow, nice 2-minute drill by Romo. We'll see if he finishes it off.

-edit- nope.

[Csargo]

Well that was terrible...

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Looks like the Colts and the Saints are the teams to beat this year.

-edit-

Wow, martok is perfect this week.

And san diego's defense and run game are terrible.

[Martok]

Wow, martok is perfect this week.
Believe me, no one is more surprised by this than I. :dizzy2: In truth, I was very uncomfortable with at least half my picks this week; I think it's safe to say I definitely got lucky in a couple of those games.

Of course, my "streak" this weekend will be all for naught unless the Vikings beat the Packers tomorrow night.... :sweatdrop:



And san diego's defense and run game are terrible.
I was surprised by that. I figured Pitt had the edge tonight, but I didn't anticipate them winning as handily as they did. (That game wasn't nearly as close as the final score makes it out to be; the Chargers were pretty much finished by halftime, despite everything they could do.)

[GeneralHankerchief]

I got really excited for nothing at the end. I had San Diego.

Afraid to look at the scores but I think I'm in last this week. So much for my early season lead. :laugh4:

And congrats on the perfect week (so far) Martok! :medievalcheers:

[Hosakawa Tito]

Nice job Martok. :2thumbsup: Faith restored.... till next week.:laugh4:

[KukriKhan]

see below

[KukriKhan]

ESPN explained the Detroit loss: turnovers and a hurt QB. At least they gave it a decent fight and so far haven't just rolled over and died. Maybe they'll win another one this year. :laugh4:

On the night game, I gave the Chargers up for dead by halftime, and started watching rugby. On a commercial break, I checked back and they were in striking distance! QB Rivers and the O-team have it together, and Sproles is the sparkplug on Special teams, too. Too bad he doesn't play Defense as well - that D-team could sure use the help.

Congrats, Martok. Nice pix.

[woad&fangs]

I live on the border between Wisconsin and Minnesota. This may as well be the superbowl.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vikings are kicking ass.

[Ramses II CP]

Farve is tuned up tonight. I gotta say, I doubt he'll have this much left when they go to Green Bay later in the season though.

:egypt:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Matt Forte vs the packers: 25 rush, 55 yards
Adrian Peterson vs the packers: 25 rush, 55 yards
Cedric Benson vs the packers: 29 rush, 141 yards

:smug:

[Martok]

Thanks guys, although I still firmly believe luck had more to do my success this week than skill. Now I just have to hope Fortune smiles on me another 13 times.... ~D



I live on the border between Wisconsin and Minnesota. This may as well be the superbowl.
Heh; indeed. It's been absolutely insane here in the Cities the past few days.

Where on the border are you? Hudson? Menomonie? New Richmond? Stillwater?

[Veho Nex]

What? No 49ers? We're going all the way this year baby!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Easiest week to pick so far...

[KukriKhan]

Easiest week to pick so far...

How do you feel about JAX at Seattle? Bookies can't decide. I'm thinking "home field advantage" for a 3-point Seahawks squeaker.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Oh, I don't know. JAX is one of the teams I get wrong every week. Seahawks have a lot of injuries I think.

[woad&fangs]

Heh; indeed. It's been absolutely insane here in the Cities the past few days.

Where on the border are you? Hudson? Menomonie? New Richmond? Stillwater?

La Crosse

[Martok]

How do you feel about JAX at Seattle? Bookies can't decide. I'm thinking "home field advantage" for a 3-point Seahawks squeaker.
I'm sticking with the Jaguars. The Seahawks have been missing some key people, and Hasselback is at best questionable for tomorrow's game. Even if he plays, he's not going to be anywhere near 100%.



La Crosse
Heh; that's funny. You're about a half-hour (or less) from most my mom's family (Winona, Rushford, Houston, and Caledonia). I often drive to La Crosse when I visit them. :beam:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Jesus christ, I'm sure it's good tv for every game to come down to the final minute but I'd really like to see us win comfortably for once.

Our long snapper messed up another 2 snaps. Kill me. Actually I don't really care anymore since we won. But either fire him or go for it on 4th down, we're 8/9 on 4th down this year and 3/6 on field goals.

I could have told you baltimore was overrated :yes:

[Strike For The South]

I'm getting throttled. Looks like two weeks off didn't help.

A bit OT but would anyone be up for The CFB bowl pool? I just saw you could do that and I'm 1000,0000 bigger college than pro fan.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Anyone else think the announcer for the Bengals-Ravens game got a bit overly excited? Anytime there was a long pass or a close play or a turnover or something he seemed to wet his pants.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I'm sticking with the Jaguars. The Seahawks have been missing some key people, and Hasselback is at best questionable for tomorrow's game. Even if he plays, he's not going to be anywhere near 100%.

Correction: Hasselback is at best excellent for the game. :beam:

The Seahawks put a serious beat down on the Jags. The best part was when they went from 6-0 to 20-0 in less than 3 minutes.

CR

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Correction: Hasselback is at best excellent for the game. :beam:

The Seahawks put a serious beat down on the Jags. The best part was when they went from 6-0 to 20-0 in less than 3 minutes.

CR

:laugh4:

Boy was I wrong...I thought hasselbeck was out, and didn't JAX beat houston and tennessee and only lose to the colts by 2?


Good weekend though, houston and the patriots lost, the titans are going to lose, bengals beat ravens, steelers have trouble with the lions...of course, I'm hopeful that we won't need to care about the wild card race :juggle2: but we still have the bears, the ravens, the steelers, the vikings, and the jets.

[Martok]

Correction: Hasselback is at best excellent for the game. :beam:

The Seahawks put a serious beat down on the Jags. The best part was when they went from 6-0 to 20-0 in less than 3 minutes.

CR
*clears throat* Yeah, I'm definitely feeling a little sheepish about how I called that one.... :blush:


I was also fairly surprised by Atlanta beating the 49ers (although I can't claim to be completely surprised). I'm even more taken aback at how lop-sided the game turned out. Did not see that coming. :dizzy2:

[OverKnight]

Argghhhhh! What a big bowl of suck for fans in New England today. :no:

Does McDaniels have incriminating photos of Tom Brady? He gave the game away today. Of course no matter who's coaching the Broncos, the Patriots never seem to do well in Denver.

[Owen Glyndwr]

*clears throat* Yeah, I'm definitely feeling a little sheepish about how I called that one.... :blush:


I was also fairly surprised by Atlanta beating the 49ers (although I can't claim to be completely surprised). I'm even more taken aback at how lop-sided the game turned out. Did not see that coming. :dizzy2:

That game was absolutely infuriating. I'd hate to be one of the niners in the locker room at the halftime of that game haha.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Congrats Kukri :yes:

My MNF score and prediction were both way off :sweatdrop:

I will be rooting so hard for the vikings next couple weeks.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Fun MNF. And I got to watch a replay of the UW-Arizona game. What a game winning interception!

CR

[Hosakawa Tito]

Easiest week to pick so far...

Yeah, sure it was...that's why they play the games.:laugh4:

I picked as well as the Bills & Browns played this week and still only dropped 2 games off the best.

[Martok]

With apologies to Decker and all other Raiders fans here, this article (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/raiders_achieve_first_down) from the Onion yesterday cracked me up:


EAST RUTHERFORD, NJ—In an improbable display of competence and a basic execution of football fundamentals, the Oakland Raiders stunned the football world Sunday when running back Michael Bush miraculously rushed for three yards against the Giants and succeeded in converting a first down.

The Raiders, who fearlessly faced a third-and-one situation on their own 22-yard-line, somehow gained the 36 inches needed for an elusive first down, despite numerous obstacles that included a professional NFL defense, owner Al Davis' incompetent personnel decisions, mediocre play-calling, and general ineptitude.

"I cannot believe what I just saw," said CBS commentator Greg Gumbel, adding that he was amazed the Raiders advanced the ball beyond the line of scrimmage, let alone gained a full 10 yards. "The fact that they were out on the field for three consecutive plays without turning the ball over is incredible. But a first down? An actual first down from the Oakland Raiders? You…I mean—I just, I can't…"

"I'm speechless," Gumbel added.

According to eyewitnesses, Raiders fans were equally astonished, reportedly shaking their heads in disbelief at the team's lack of incomplete passes, false starts, and holding penalties during the four-down series. Chuck Walker, a lifelong Raiders fan, said he was "proud" of his hometown team for defying the odds and avoiding mental errors for nearly 120 seconds.

"I've never seen them go that long without totally screwing up," said Walker, who believed the first down may have even slightly changed the game's momentum. "I was certain that with a yard to go they would send five receivers deep and [quarterback] JaMarcus [Russell] would chuck the ball to one of the Giants' defensive backs."

Continued Walker, "This will surely go down as the highlight of the Raiders' season."

NFL analyst Tom Jackson also registered his incredulity, saying that after he saw the Raiders gain nine yards on the first two plays of the series—a "miraculous achievement" in and of itself—he never could have imagined they'd gain the one yard necessary to begin another set of offensive downs. The fact that they actually gained two extra yards beyond the first-down marker, Jackson said, left everyone in ESPN studios beside themselves.

"On any given play there is so much potential for the Raiders to lose a significant number of yards that you never expect them to actually gain anything," Jackson said. "But they did it. They made a first down. And on three tries, like a normal pro football team."

Jackson went on to credit the accomplishment to the much-maligned offensive line, saying that not only did they show a full understanding of their blocking assignments, but they also ran the correct play when the ball was snapped.

"Looking at that play, you wonder how a team like the Raiders are 1-4," Jackson said. "Not for too long, of course, but you do wonder for a split second."

According to referee John Parry, the first down also caught members of the officiating crew off guard. Parry said that when Bush moved the chains, his instinct was to throw an unsportsmanlike behavior flag for taunting.

"Michael just got up off the ground and handed me the ball without trying to provoke anyone," Parry said. "Usually you'll find the Oakland guys are jumping back on the pile trying to jam a finger into someone's eye or just kicking wildly with their cleats."

"At first I thought we definitely missed something," Parry added. "But we reviewed the play and the league didn't find anything illegal. They got a first down fair and square."

The Raiders lost the game 44-7.

:laugh4:

[Hosakawa Tito]

The Raiders & Bills need new ownership. The game has passed them by.

[Ramses II CP]

That fat punk we have at QB, the new Ryan Leaf, is not just a symptom of the problem either. There's no leadership on the field, none. A well motivated High School squad could whip those lazy jerks, and maybe that's what it will take to get some Raider Nation pride back. Makes me sick.

There are worse teams in the league right now, but none that have been as consistently horrible in every aspect of the game (Except special teams; our kicking game is actually pretty good) for as long. :thumbsdown:

:egypt:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

This weeks bengals game was going to be blacked out, but Ocho Cinco and motorola bought the last 1,200 tickets and are giving them away. Crazy awesome.

Now let's see if we can shut down Andre Johnson :sweatdrop:

[drone]

This weeks bengals game was going to be blacked out, but Ocho Cinco and motorola bought the last 1,200 tickets and are giving them away. Crazy awesome.

The Bengals are actually pretty good this year, so it would be a shame to have a blackout. Good for 85.

I guess it would too much to ask for a black out of the Chiefs@Skins trainwreck (in the rain, no less) this weekend. "There are some things that you see, and you can't unsee them." :ahh:

[Decker]

With apologies to Decker and all other Raiders fans here, this article (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/raiders_achieve_first_down) from the Onion yesterday cracked me up:



:laugh4:
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4: That gave me a good laugh. Sadly I haven't been able to follow the season much as I'm at a uni without a TV and end up doing HW over the weekends mostly anyways :book:


That fat punk we have at QB, the new Ryan Leaf, is not just a symptom of the problem either. There's no leadership on the field, none. A well motivated High School squad could whip those lazy jerks, and maybe that's what it will take to get some Raider Nation pride back. Makes me sick.

There are worse teams in the league right now, but none that have been as consistently horrible in every aspect of the game (Except special teams; our kicking game is actually pretty good) for as long. :thumbsdown:

:egypt:I don't think our QB has brains. That's my guess anyway :idea2:

Well... our special teams have actually been the only thing that has ever improved over the past... however many years after being the worst aspect. :2thumbsup: Which is incredibly sad.

I just wonder when we get demoted to NCAA II Division football :sweatdrop:

And yes, Al needs to just... croak or give it up finally. And my grandpa who has followed them from the beginning said he has never seen them play so terribly in all his life. Sad days indeed. I'm just glad I have a great excuse not to go to the games now, as they were (and even worse, are) incredibly depressing.

[Martok]

Games this weekend I feel could all too easily go either way:

Giants-Saints
Panthers-Buccaneers
Ravens-Vikings
Chiefs-Redskins
Battle of the Birds (Cardinals-Seahawks)


Gah! Why must I pick winners for these?? I fear this won't end well for me....



:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4: That gave me a good laugh.
Heh. Well I'm glad you enjoyed it at least. :beam:

[Decker]

Heh. Well I'm glad you enjoyed it at least. :beam:

Lol I would be a fool to be offended by that :laugh4: But in all honesty... we just kinda suck :no:

[KukriKhan]

Games this weekend I feel could all too easily go either way:

Giants-Saints
Panthers-Buccaneers
Ravens-Vikings
Chiefs-Redskins
Battle of the Birds (Cardinals-Seahawks)

The Chargers v Broncos match is no picking picnic either. Tough week.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I just realized that the Raiders were playing the Eagles this week. Let's hope all of this Oakland-bashing doesn't cause a reverse jinx. :sweatdrop:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Gah, I switched my nyg/n.o. pick at the last minute, hope that wasn't wrong...

Andre johnson is a beast, losing our two best d-linemen doesn't help though. At least we have a new snapper.

[Martok]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[GeneralHankerchief]

Raiders look sharp today. Uh-oh.

[seireikhaan]

Titans look absolutely terrible.

[Csargo]

GH what's going on? Raiders winning?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Odom out for season :wall:

[Proletariat]

This weeks bengals game was going to be blacked out, but Ocho Cinco and motorola bought the last 1,200 tickets and are giving them away. Crazy awesome.

Now let's see if we can shut down Andre Johnson :sweatdrop:

That's really awesome. Ocho is a great player and really a cool guy. Lumping him in with the TO's of the world at this point is way unfair. I'd love it if the Skins had anyone this likeable, talented and entertaining :(

[GeneralHankerchief]

Luckily, I had a train to catch and got to miss the second half of that embarrassment. :wall:

In hindsight though, this really isn't too surprising. The Eagles always give a couple of these games away every year. It sucks when it happens again, and then they look good just long enough for you to forget that they give games away. Then it happens again. Argh.

[Decker]

In hindsight though, this really isn't too surprising. The Eagles always give a couple of these games away every year. It sucks when it happens again, and then they look good just long enough for you to forget that they give games away. Then it happens again. Argh.I guess you deserve a hardy thanks :shame:

[Ramses II CP]

You know the Raiders D really showed up to play, and the Eagles D really didn't, but Russell didn't exactly have a great game. Take away those two big plays, which were really sloppy give aways by Philly (How many guys that could've caught Zach just gave up and watched on his long TD?) more than great Raiders O, and Russell looked like his usual joke self behind a lazy offensive line. I guess he didn't make quite as many mistakes as previously, but the Eagles D looked completely uninterested in the game and we weren't exactly exploiting it.

I am glad our D woke up. Maybe it was having Vick come to town? Doesn't everyone want a shot at him? He was barely in the game though.

A W is a W.

:egypt:

[drone]

I think Seymour has been a huge boost to the Raiders' D. Not just his skill (being traded definitely woke him up though), but his attitude and leadership look like they have really started to turn things around, at least defensively.

The Chiefs/Skins game was dreadful, as expected. CBS had technical difficulties in the third quarter, so we got to see some of the Vikings/Ravens game, a much better option. I was so bummed when they switched back. :no:

[Crazed Rabbit]

I just realized that the Raiders were playing the Eagles this week. Let's hope all of this Oakland-bashing doesn't cause a reverse jinx. :sweatdrop:

:dizzy2:

CR

[Csargo]

Can't ever seem to get to the number 1 spot. Always in second or third:wall:

[Martok]

May the gods forgive me: I've picked my beloved Steelers to defeat my (even more) beloved Vikings. :embarassed:


I hate to say it, but with Winfield out this week, Big Ben will be able to throw the ball all over the place tomorrow. Favre and AP will do their best, but I don't think it'll be enough.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Yeah, that was a tough won to pick. Both teams are somewhat overrated (but then in the NFL most teams are either over or under rated). I picked the vikings because I'll be watching the game and rooting for them :beam:

[Hosakawa Tito]

Can't ever seem to get to the number 1 spot. Always in second or third:wall:

Hehehe, it's a marathon not a sprint, Ichigo. There's a lot of weeks left so just try and stay within striking distance.

I also picked the Steelers, just gotta feeling that the Vikings are due to stumble.

[seireikhaan]

Man, the Bengals are taking the bears out to the woodshed. 31-0 at half. :dizzy:

edit: ok, spoke too soon, Chicago got a field goal at the last second.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Great game :beam:

The vikings got robbed though imo. 14 point swing on that tripping call.

[Crazed Rabbit]

What the heck is going on with New Orleans?


The vikings got robbed though imo. 14 point swing on that tripping call.
*grumbles*
Just like the steelers to win on a blown call.

CR

[Centurion1]

packers won. That is all :bow:

[Crazed Rabbit]

Wow, what a comeback from the Saints!

Also, isn't Chicago supposed to be decent, er, non Oakland level team?

CR

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Wow, what a comeback from the Saints!

Also, isn't Chicago supposed to be decent, er, non Oakland level team?

CR

They are a good team...but if you can't stop benson (189 yards...), you can't stop palmer. We just ran with 6 offensive lineman time after time. And if they stack the box they can't stop chad.

They got behind real quick and had to go for broke, 4 turnovers I think. Cutler had 250 yards, but they only got 30 on the ground.

Most fun I've had this season :yes:

[Ice]

What the heck is going on with New Orleans?

*grumbles*
Just like the steelers to win on a blown call.

CR

Cry Some more :bigcry::bigcry::bigcry:

:beam:

That call that robbed the Steelers of a TD which turned into a field goal where the one guy literally set a pick in the middle of a field wasn't exactly on the up and up.

I'm also sure Favre's fumble and interception which were returned for touchdowns didn't help either.

[seireikhaan]

Digging this back from the 2nd page for tomorrow. Should be some fun games tomorrow. Finally going to get around to getting back to the local sports pub of choice to watch the Colts/Texans game.

Also interested on who will win the Baltimore/Denver game. I'm beyond stunned the Broncos are loss-less by this point, and the Ravens badly need a win.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

It will be interesting. I just changed by pick on that one actually.

I get to watch that game and then packers/vikings. Excellent.

[KukriKhan]

So: does anybody like Detroit over St Louis today? Unbelievably, Vegas grants them a 3.5 point win. Maybe miracles do happen.

[Vuk]

So who are the Vikings playing today? I am a Vikings fan from here on in I decided. Unfortunately I know nothing about football. :P Tell me, how are the Vikings doing this season?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

So: does anybody like Detroit over St Louis today? Unbelievably, Vegas grants them a 3.5 point win. Maybe miracles do happen.

:laugh4:

We all picked detroit. Never thought I'd see the day.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Nice start to the Philly/NY doubleheader. Let's keep it going for the nightcap. :yes:

[Martok]

Good gods; I've been getting killed today! It seems like I've picked the loser in just about every game so far.

At least the Vikings are beating the Packers at the moment. We'll see how long that lasts, though; given my streak today, my having picked Minnesota to win suddenly seems like an ominous portent....

[Vuk]

Good gods; I've been getting killed today! It seems like I've picked the loser in just about every game so far.

At least the Vikings are beating the Packers at the moment. We'll see how long that lasts, though; given my streak today, my having picked Minnesota to win suddenly seems like an ominous portent....

Don't worry, the Vikings will whoop them. It is already the second inning quarter, and it is 14-3.
EDIT: Favre made 4 home runs!

[KarlXII]

Vikings beat Packers!

I think I'm safe to quote,

HOW ABOUT 'DEM VIKINGS

[Owen Glyndwr]

Oh, the Vikings did end up winning that game? I'm still annoyed that the '9ers couldn't pull out the win against the Colts. They just died in the 4th! :furious3:

[woad&fangs]

There's always next year...

Who else thinks that Favre has a shot at the MVP award?

[Ramses II CP]

There's always next year...

Who else thinks that Favre has a shot at the MVP award?

He ran out of arm late in the season last year. Word is he's having a hard time getting ready for gameday already, and he's gotten his revenge well and truly at this point so motivation might begin to slacken. If I were Childress I'd be finding a way to work Tavaris Jackson into the gameplan 8-10 plays a game, and I'd start yanking Farve early in blowouts. Adrian Peterson can win some of these games for them no matter who is handing him the ball.

If Farve has some arm left for a playoff run he will be MVP.

:egypt:

[Owen Glyndwr]

There's always next year...

Who else thinks that Favre has a shot at the MVP award?


San Francisco fans have been saying that for the last 7 years (For both Baseball AND Football)

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Well, for any team with a franchise quarterback, next year always is a possibility. Besides, the packers are only a game back in the wild card race. They just need to quit giving up 6 sacks a game.

Bengals play the ravens and then the steelers. Big, big games. Win both and we're in the playoffs, win one and we still have a good chance. Lose both and we're going to have to win almost all the rest of our games. Let's hope the offense keeps clicking. I wanna see andre smith play...

This play was the best of the game imo:

https://i35.tinypic.com/152fj94.gif

[KukriKhan]

He ran out of arm late in the season last year. Word is he's having a hard time getting ready for gameday already, and he's gotten his revenge well and truly at this point so motivation might begin to slacken. If I were Childress I'd be finding a way to work Tavaris Jackson into the gameplan 8-10 plays a game, and I'd start yanking Farve early in blowouts. Adrian Peterson can win some of these games for them no matter who is handing him the ball.

If Farve has some arm left for a playoff run he will be MVP.

:egypt:

Likewise, New Orleans kicker John Carney seems to have "run out of leg", at age 45. I remember when he was with the SD Chargers in the 90's - there were many games where he was the only player who could score; QB Stan Humpries would get the team down to the 25, and hit a "wall", then they'd bring on Carney for the sure 3-pointer.

Last night v Atlanta, he missed a couple of gimmies. He's had 20 pretty good NFL years. I hadn't realized it had been that long. Time to collect that pension and maybe do color commentary for CBS. :laugh4:

[Vuk]

Likewise, New Orleans kicker John Carney seems to have "run out of leg", at age 45. I remember when he was with the SD Chargers in the 90's - there were many games where he was the only player who could score; QB Stan Humpries would get the team down to the 25, and hit a "wall", then they'd bring on Carney for the sure 3-pointer.

Last night v Atlanta, he missed a couple of gimmies. He's had 20 pretty good NFL years. I hadn't realized it had been that long. Time to collect that pension and maybe do color commentary for CBS. :laugh4:

lol, don't you worry your pretty head about it Kukri ~;), Favre is gonna play this season out, and hopefully win the SuperBowl! He ain't running out of no arm any time soon.

[KukriKhan]

lol, don't you worry your pretty head about it Kukri ~;), Favre is gonna play this season out, and hopefully win the SuperBowl! He ain't running out of no arm any time soon.

Little. You forgot "little".


don't you worry your pretty little head about it Kukri

like that. If yer gonna condescend, do it right. Dude.

[Vuk]

Little. You forgot "little".



like that. If yer gonna condescend, do it right. Dude.

I am above condescending, sir! ~;)

[Ramses II CP]

Quoting Tuesday Morning Quarterback:


By Saying This, We Do Not Mean to Insult Ryan Leaf: San Diego has won 13 straight against Oakland. JaMarcus Russell's career stats: 17 touchdown passes, 21 interceptions, 36 fumbles, 60 sacks. Isn't it time to accept that Russell is the new Ryan Leaf?

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/091103&sportCat=nfl

:smash: :wall: :furious3: :thumbsdown:

:egypt:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

To be fair, this is what he's throwing to:

https://i34.tinypic.com/1taq3d.gif


Also, this is from last week but it's awesome, so:

https://i33.tinypic.com/257myrs.gif

[Crazed Rabbit]

Quoting Tuesday Morning Quarterback:


By Saying This, We Do Not Mean to Insult Ryan Leaf: San Diego has won 13 straight against Oakland. JaMarcus Russell's career stats: 17 touchdown passes, 21 interceptions, 36 fumbles, 60 sacks. Isn't it time to accept that Russell is the new Ryan Leaf?

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/091103&sportCat=nfl

:smash: :wall: :furious3: :thumbsdown:

:egypt:

Huzzah! No longer will the biggest bust in sports history have come from my school!
:beam::barrel::clown::barrel::dizzy2:
CR

[Sasaki Kojiro]

17-0 at the half, benson has 80 yards. Good game :beam:

[Crazed Rabbit]

Dang, forgot to pick this week.

CR

[Csargo]

Arizona :wall:

[KukriKhan]

Dang, forgot to pick this week.

CR

Reminder to all: we have Thursday games this week and next. Consider making your picks on Tuesday or Wednesday.

[Strike For The South]

HOW BOUT DEM' COWBOYS

[drone]

HOW BOUT DEM' COWBOYS
:yes:

I think that was the first game this year that I have been truly impressed by Dallas. Pressure situation, in a hostile crowd, against a tough D, I seen them collapse like a house of cards too many times. They managed to keep the stupid penalties to a minimum (so around 5 then :beam:), and fought back for a hard win against a division opponent. :2thumbsup:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Reminder to all: we have Thursday games this week and next. Consider making your picks on Tuesday or Wednesday.

Already? Gah, Thursday games should be reserved for Thanksgiving only.

Also, congrats to Dallas for their big win. :wall:

[Hosakawa Tito]

The Bills never looked so good this week...

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Bump, remember to pick by tomorrow night.

[Vuk]

hmmm...just tell me when the Vikings play again. I don't care who they play, my money is on them. ~;)

[Martok]

*sigh* Let's see if I can improve on my whopping 6 wins from last week.... :gah2:



hmmm...just tell me when the Vikings play again. I don't care who they play, my money is on them. ~;)
Well the Vikings play the Lions *at home*, so I'd daresay everyone's money is on them. ~;p

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Cutler is still better than Orton.

[Strike For The South]

Cutler is still better than Orton.

True but not by much. Cutler has always been overrated.

On the other hand you have my boy Crabtree who is proving that Oakland made a blunder (what else is new?)

[GeneralHankerchief]

Nicely done to the Bengals. :yes: Too bad I picked Pittsburgh. :laugh4:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Bengals are in the playoffs :beam:

I hope Benson's injury isn't serious though.

But trent, michael johnson, and B. Scott (rookies) all stepped up.

[Hosakawa Tito]

Break up the Bengals. :beam: They haven't played this well for 20 years, good for them and their fans.

[Csargo]

HOW BOUT THEM cowboys:sweatdrop:

[Crazed Rabbit]

They really stank today.
:beam:
CR

[Ice]

Break up the Bengals. :beam: They haven't played this well for 20 years, good for them and their fans.

Yeah really, first time in ten years they beat the Steelers twice in one season.

They are good, but not great overall though. I'm thinking first/second round playoffs will be the furthest they go.

[KukriKhan]

Well done Cincy. :thumbsup:

And how about St Louie daring to threaten N'awlins? Mr Drew Breeze had best not try to rest on his laurels prematurely. The season isn't over yet.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Well done Cincy. :thumbsup:

And how about St Louie daring to threaten N'awlins? Mr Drew Breeze had best not try to rest on his laurels prematurely. The season isn't over yet.

NO has a bunch of injuries on defense right?

That's going to start taking its toll on teams.

We seem OK without odom or our tight ends. Benson just has a hip flexor strain apparently.


Randy moss:
4 catches
144 yards
1 TD

11:18 to go in the 2nd?

:eek:

[seireikhaan]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

:2thumbsup: :2thumbsup: :2thumbsup:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Excellent game, probably the best of the year so far. Great job by the Colts but I wonder how badly Belichick's going to get skewered tomorrow.

-edit- Ahahaha, Rodney Harrison is crying in the postgame now. :laugh4:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Great game, amazing job by the colts.

I agree with going for it on 4th and 2 personally. 30-40 yards extra isn't much to the colts offense.

[Hosakawa Tito]

A great game that I couldn't stay awake long enough to watch. Old man disease strikes again! :shame:

Nice to see Belichick blow it, and diss his defensive players too.

[Ramses II CP]

I respect the heck out of Belichick but IMHO that call comes down to one thing; he wanted to be able to say 'I won that game with coaching.' And it was an okay risk in my book, look at the Colt's previous drive and ask yourself if you really think the Pats D had gotten better in the minute or so their offense held the ball.

The real blown call, however, was wasting the last time out to call that play. Those dinky little passes to Faulk were working all night, his hands were solid, and he looked like he had that first down... but they couldn't challenge it. If you've been calling it all night and it's working, just call it and let it roll.

I dunno though, they called passes instead of working the clock there at the end of the 4th as well.

Football really is a game of inches. Spectacular game. It's a great time to be a fan of football.

:egypt:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Looks like the bengals might sign Larry Johnson :beam:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Rodney Harrison engaging in an unbiased discussion of the Patriots' failure to hold onto their lead last night:

https://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n231/GeneralHankerchief/ohrodney1.jpg

[Centurion1]

Packers are going to make a comeback just everyone wait. first the cowboys, then the world.

[Strike For The South]

Looks like the bengals might sign Larry Johnson :beam:

NOOOO NOOO NOOO. Johnson is a cancer, he'll tear that locker room apart!

[GeneralHankerchief]

Heads-up to all, there's another Thursday game tomorrow, so your picks need to be in early.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Carolina keeps screwing up my picks...along with jax and dallas.

Remarkable amount of consensus this week.

[Martok]

Carolina keeps screwing up my picks...along with jax and dallas.
Eh. I knew the game tonight was going to be a toss-up -- one of many this week.


Games that I can easily see going either way:

Colts-Ravens
Browns-Lions
49ers-Packers
Falcons-Giants
Chargers-Broncos
Eagles-Bears


In all, I was forced to make uncomfortable choices in fully 7 of this weekend's 16 games (including the Miami-Carolina contest). I just don't like any of these at all. :no: :sweatdrop:




Remarkable amount of consensus this week.
I'd noticed this as well. Tonight's Dolphins-Panthers game is about the only one where there was any real split on the picks. Just about every other match-up this weekend is either unanimous or has only 1-2 dissenters/daredevils.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

http://i48.tinypic.com/mtt5rm.jpg

[GeneralHankerchief]

Please tell me that this is real. :laugh4:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Gradgowski is a lot better than russel. The turnovers and missed field goal is what killed us today though.

The entire AFC north lost today :laugh4:

The announcers were the worst I've had this year (Kevin Harlan and Solomon Wilcots).

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Short week again remember.

Chris johnson is a beast, and the best back in the nfl imo.

[KukriKhan]

Today is Detroit's last real chance at an upset win this season. Looks like wunderkind Stafford is out as QB, so oldman-Dante has to avoid getting intercepted, and has to march downfield with short-ish passes and 5-yard runs.

If the Detroit D can sack Rogers a few times, that might slow GB's momentum.

If all the above happens, the Lion's have a chance. Vegas doesn't think so, holding to a 13-point win for the Packers.

I like both teams, generally, but have to go with my original homeboys: Detroit. Hey, ya can't brag in a couple years, if ya didn't support 'em in the bad times. :)

[Samurai Waki]

Oaklands comin' out strong, which is a real surprise. Still think the cowboys got it.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Oaklands comin' out strong, which is a real surprise. Still think the cowboys got it.

Agggh, I can't believe we lost to oakland. They could have at least put up a good showing in dallas to make themselves look better.


Big weekend. Patriots and steelers losing would be fantastic.

[seireikhaan]

Man, I almost felt bad for Houston there today... once more, an epic collapse.

[Hosakawa Tito]

Martok is making his move this week, good job! :2thumbsup:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I hate jacksonville, houston, and carolina :laugh4:

-edit-

But I love tennessee :beam:

[KarlXII]

Is it me or does it smell like 10-1 in here?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Brady quinn was the browns 2nd leading receiver for the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wvUIVu_6U8

********

Ravens v Steelers game was great. Steelers are really hurting without ben and polomalu though.

Oddly enough I haven't seen any criticism of harbaugh for going for it on 4th and 5 :laugh4:

[Owen Glyndwr]

I'm so excited the niners actually managed to pull off a win on Sunday. Finally broke that losing streak!!:2thumbsup:

[Martok]

Reminder: Picks have be made in the next ~18 hours. Don't forget!


By the by, what the heck is with all these Thursday night games lately? I always thought the only Thursday match-ups were on Thanksgiving. :inquisitive: Is it a new thing, or has this been going on for several seasons now and I'm just now noticing?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Reminder: Picks have be made in the next ~18 hours. Don't forget!


By the by, what the heck is with all these Thursday night games lately? I always thought the only Thursday match-ups were on Thanksgiving. :inquisitive: Is it a new thing, or has this been going on for several seasons now and I'm just now noticing?

They had them last season...nfl trying to get people to subscribe to their network.

[Csargo]

They had them last season...nfl trying to get people to subscribe to their network.

The NO-Dallas game is on NFL Network as well. :furious3:

[Martok]

They had them last season...nfl trying to get people to subscribe to their network.
Thanks, Sasaki. I suspected as much, although not the reason for it. Personally, I find it bloody annoying, but that's probably because I'm just a stick-in-the-mud. :wall:


On a lighter note, I must admit amusement that in our pool, the four top scorers so far (including myself) all picked the loser in tonight's Bills-Jets match-up. Yes, the universe truly loves irony.... :laugh4:

[seireikhaan]

Raiders are gonna beat the Steelers. :dizzy2: Who'da thunk?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Raiders are gonna beat the Steelers. :dizzy2: Who'da thunk?

Steelers lose :beam: patriots lose :beam:

The browns beating the chargers would complete the trifecta. The Cin-SD game will be big for us.

Is it just me or is the fox coverage a lot worse than the CBS coverage?


Was hoping the titans would win. I saw the ticker (chris johnson 113 yards) and thought, wow, he had a bad game :laugh4:

[Martok]

My Viqueens lost to the spastic Cards?!! Oh the shame, the ignominy.... :wall: :shame:

[Sasaki Kojiro]

My Viqueens lost to the spastic Cards?!! Oh the shame, the ignominy.... :wall: :shame:

Yes, the vikings really aren't as good as their record suggests. They beat a bunch of bad teams, baltimore and the 49ers were the best that they played and they barely won those. Injuries have also hampered them.

I hope we can beat them next week...but I'm much more worried about the chargers game, since we'll be playing for the #2 seed and I don't know if we can cover gates. Sproles could do really well against us too.

Of course, it would have been nice to realize this before picking them to beat arizona...

[drone]

And the annual Dallas Cowboys December collapse begins... :no:


Watched the Saints-Skins game. Skins should have won it, Saints pulled it out in OT. After all the breaks, I can only think that the Redskins are suffering from bad karma. Case for:

After stuffing the Saints and forcing a punt, the Saints' punter shanks it so badly that it comes down on top of a Skins blocker, recovered by the Saints and the drive continues.
The interception/return/fumble/return for TD combo platter of the day for another Saints touchdown. Reviewed for about 5 minutes. Complete stomach punch for the Skins.
A missed field goal from 23 yards by the Skins that would have sealed it.
The fumble in OT. Maybe I'm not clear on the rules, but no one can challenge in OT, booth review only. So Payton calls the TO to get a review. Fine, no problem there. But look back at the play: balls comes out, Saints' player pick it up, and then ....? Official call on the field was down by contact, but the Saints player that recovered it was never down. How can the review give the ball to the Saints, when that scenario would result in an unfinished play?

It's obvious that the football gods have it in for the Redskins this year. Maybe it's the team name, maybe it's the sign-banning, maybe it's just the accumulation of crap that the owner has pulled over the years. But it's apparent that Snyder needs to sacrifice Vinny Cerrato. Preferably in a slow and painful manner.

[Strike For The South]

And the annual Dallas Cowboys December collapse begins... :no:

.


https://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8983/ihasasad.jpg

[Martok]

Yes, the vikings really aren't as good as their record suggests. They beat a bunch of bad teams, baltimore and the 49ers were the best that they played and they barely won those. Injuries have also hampered them.
It just got worse -- much worse. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4720974) :no:

With the possible exception of Jared Allen, I can't imagine another player injury leaving as huge a gap in our defense as Henderson. This is going to hurt us badly....

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Jared allen is my favorite viking, because of the way he makes up bogus schools during the introduction.

"Jared allen--culinary academy"

"Jared allen--Home schooled. Thanks, mom."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdnuBoNd0WI&feature=related

[Crazed Rabbit]

My Viqueens lost to the spastic Cards?!! Oh the shame, the ignominy.... :wall: :shame:

:evil:

It seems like Farve may be returning to last year's late season fade. Two interceptions! Let me tell you, I recognized it as the old "Farve trying to force things" when his team was down. Some sad times for the packers. But now you have him! BWAHAHAHAHA!

CR

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Pittsburgh Steelers:

Sunday, Nov. 15 vs. Bengals L 18-12 (6-3)
Sunday, Nov. 22 @ Chiefs * L 27-24 (6-4)
Sunday, Nov. 29 @ Ravens * L 20-17 (6-5)
Sunday, Dec. 6 vs. Raiders * L 27-24 (6-6)
Thursday, Dec. 10 @ Browns L 13-6 (6-7)


:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

[GeneralHankerchief]

Holy...

So "Jersey Shore" wasn't the biggest train wreck of the night then?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

It was actually a really fun game. Just didn't expect the steelers to get into a "battle of field position" with the browns.

8 sacks by the browns.

[Csargo]

:wall:

[seireikhaan]

Grr, forgot to pick again.:wall: