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LeftEyeNine
10-12-2009, 12:00
In addition to the title question, one more thing: Is DX11 hardware-dependent as well ?

Will I miss too much by buying a GTX275 as soon as possible ? Should I wait DX11 to land ? And will DX11 land with Win7's release or what ?

Thanks in advance.
Tellos Athenaios
10-12-2009, 15:28
Depends on whether or not you expect to be using lots of DX11 stuff. If not: who cares about DX11 anyways?
LeftEyeNine
10-12-2009, 17:13
Depends on whether or not you expect to be using lots of DX11 stuff. If not: who cares about DX11 anyways?

Gamers ? :smash:
Tellos Athenaios
10-12-2009, 18:44
Well that is the point: how much programs are actually exclusively DX10 (i.e.: they cannot run on XP) these days? There are plenty of cards that do not (even) support DX10 fully and although not a lot of them are exactly useful for hardcore gaming anymore, it will still take quite a bit of time before all that DX 9 and old DX 10 hardware is fully phased out (as in: you cannot play if you still have that kit) -- and then we have not touched on the proper DX 10 hardware itself.

So currently just about any application you might care for will run just fine on appropriate current hardware and most likely on XP-age stuff as well; and this will probably remain so for as long as software has to support legacy DX 9 or DX 10 hardware. Proper DX 10 drivers are much like DX 11 drivers (the big thing about DX 11 is that it now requires the DX 10 driver model to be used; instead of the legacy DX 9 and older implementations) so even though you may miss out on DX 11 specific features you will likely still be able to play/use things which simply expects a ‘DX 10/11 compatible card’...
Husar
10-13-2009, 00:28
DX 11 is in Windows 7 and IIRC someone here said it's likely to become available for Vista as well.
The new ATI 5xxx cards already support DX 11 (yes, it needs new hardware) and I'm not aware of any game available now that uses DX 11, I think the Pc version of DIRT 2 will have it (might be wrong though) and that's about all that comes to mind, it has some improvements but will probably take time to become anywhere near widespread, as has been said, not all games take advantage of 10 yet and those that do, often just use a few of the many new features it seems. (Venetica and Risen have god-rays which are DX10 only afaik but that's the only DX 10 feature I recognized in both games)
Veho Nex
10-13-2009, 02:14
There's a DX 11? Im still using 9.0c... I feel so far behind in the times :/
Lemur
10-13-2009, 05:50
DX11 will be a superset of DX10, not a ground-up rewrite like the transition from 9 to 10. So DX10 hardware should make you quite happy for a long time. Here's a brief overview (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/white_paper_directx_11) of the changes.
Husar
10-13-2009, 10:46
Hmm, apparently battleforge is the only DX 11 game out so far but you get a considerable performance increase when you enable it, german page but look at the graphs: http://www.computerbase.de/news/hardware/grafikkarten/ati/2009/oktober/directx-11-spiele_sooner/
AggonyDuck
10-13-2009, 15:12
In addition to the title question, one more thing: Is DX11 hardware-dependent as well ?

Will I miss too much by buying a GTX275 as soon as possible ? Should I wait DX11 to land ? And will DX11 land with Win7's release or what ?

Thanks in advance.

Why would you want to buy a GTX275 when the Radeon 5850 is superior and is in the same price range? And it also supports DX11.
Lemur
10-13-2009, 16:34
Mmmm ... Radeon 5850 ... [lemur drools on himself]
Beskar
10-13-2009, 17:47
Mmmm ... Radeon 5850 ... [lemur drools on himself]

You are such an animal.
naut
10-14-2009, 18:31
Why would you want to buy a GTX275 when the Radeon 5850 is superior and is in the same price range? And it also supports DX11.
Plus ATI cards are more likely to be able to run MTW. :beam:

Plus the 5850 looks awesome.
al Roumi
10-15-2009, 17:41
Plus the 5850 looks awesome.

Pff, in your PC case? Or are going to own up to neons and a transparent panel??? :beam: