Aes Uxorium and Family Members "production"

[NIKOMAHOS]

After conquerring the world with Koinon Hellenon, and creating huge empires with Macedonia, Arche Seleucia and Baktria(in my opinion the best recruitment options...) all in Very Hard/Medium options, i desided to try as Romani, just to see Augustan reforms. I wanted to make it quick so M/M was my selection.
Here we are in 129BC ready for the reforms, my Sextus Africanus in his 50 in Tolosa waiting to be faction Heir and then Leader so i get the new troops.
All the world from Uspe-Kabalaka-Zadrakata-Gabai line to Ivernis(Ireland in the west)is painted red, a mighty Saka in the north, a strong Baktria in the east a poor 1 region AS and 3 regions for Sauromates in the NW. My treasury has 70,000,000 Mnai (yes it is seventy millions- i have a surplus of 400-500,000 Mnai for many turns now because the only army i have is in the eastern provinces and allmost everything ment to be built was built in the west...).
I face a problem with my FM "production". Most of my girls (counted 50 just in three last years 132-129BC)just past their childbreading age without even a suitable husband to accept or decline and the only suitable husbands are over 60 years old and they marry just to die...
Furthermore all my Client rulers until now had a trait called Aes Uxorium for their refusal to get married and provide citizens to the state. Just after 135Bc my client rulers are herbalists/doctors/physicians that gives them a greater chance to make childrens.
Does anybody knows if they will make it because it is a little dificult to hold this 165 regions empire without FM...

[Macilrille]

Roman client rulers never produce children. At least not that I have seen in 4-5 Roman campaigns.

What I do is that I demolish the Lvl IV MIC and build a new Lvl IV, voila, new client king.

[A Terribly Harmful Name]

That solution doesn't work anymore in 1.2.

[bigmilt16]

So long as you keep the Type IV govt., you can simply recruit a new client ruler when the old one dies out. This is the only way to get around the problem of Roman clients kings being infertile.

[Finn MacCumhail]

Hm. I have EB 1.2 , and client rulers easily produced in 4th gov type. I had 2 client rulers in the same time in Massilia, also when they die, it is possible to recruit a new ones. May be in 1.1 it is different some how?

[NIKOMAHOS]

I have EB 1.2
When a client ruler-governor of a city is 55 years old i create a new one so in the next 5-10 until the death of the old one he gets enough traits to govern the city.
The newly arrived doctor or herbalist or physisian trait of the client rulers don't give children -FM?
As far as i am conserned in my old KH campaign client rulers gave children.

[ziegenpeter]

client rulers can have children :stunned:

[Cute Wolf]

client rulers can have children :stunned:

They can, but they are illegitimate ones :laugh:

Just accept every marriage proposal when you become a really large empire, that's the quickest solution... but watch out for idiots that want to take your girls..... :laugh4: :wall:

[Ludens]

The game limits the number of family members to the number of cities you own, although I don't know the exact formula. Unless you have a small empire, you will generally have less FMs than cities. IIRC client rulers also count as family members, so if you go wild with type IV governments your family may stop producing children, no matter how many temples of Ceres you build.

[Belisarius II]

Not true Ludens, in a Baktria campagin I'm doing right now, I have 4 cities, yet I have 7 FMs.

[DaciaJC]

Unless you have a small empire, you will generally have less FMs than cities.

I would consider an empire with four settlements to be relatively small.

[Trivmphator]

I would consider an empire with four settlements to be relatively small.

I wouldn't even consider that an Empire!

[GMT]

I wouldn't even consider that an Empire!

If you own 4 steppe provinces you own practically 25% of the map :beam:

About the FM, in my current Romani campaign i have about 25 regions and have more than 10 surplus FMs. In most of my campaigns i have a FM surplus.