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Jolt
10-20-2009, 13:37
With the blunder of Victoria (I shall see the forthcoming weekend if I'm able to get a multiplayer game started)

I was wondering what would be the availability of people to start a Play by E-mail game of vanilla Civ 4: BtS (3.19?) I never played a PBEM before, but supposedly, we no longer need to congregate at the same time to play, which would make the availability much easier for all involved.

I do not understand the mechanics involved behind such a game (I suppose it would need for each player to put a password to protect their game, and mail to the next player or host the save game file in a place where every player could download it when it was their turn. Unfortunately, due to the secret nature of these turn-based PBEM games, AAR's would be lacking, and probably only public events could be listed (Wars, Wonder construction, etc.)

EDIT: It would also make for a nice diplomacy game here in the forums, as our civilizations meet and begin forging alliances and backstabbing each others. :P

TinCow
10-20-2009, 13:50
Sure, I'll play. PBEM games should be done on smaller sized maps though, as they take a VERY long time to play. We're talking many months to finish one.

Jolt
10-20-2009, 14:01
Yeah? I have absolutely no idea. Small map means how many players? 5? We'll do it in Quick Speed setting to ensure a quicker game.

TinCow
10-20-2009, 14:12
Dunno how long it would take exactly, only time I've ever played Civ via PBEM was with a single game of Alpha Centauri many years ago. That one took about a month to go 10 turns. I would pick whatever map size is optimal based on the number of players we get. I also recommend that we use the advanced start option, where everyone gets a certain number of points at the start of the game to place some basic roads and build a building or two. That portion of the game usually involves a LOT of hitting end turn and not a whole lot else... using the advanced start option will let us get to the more entertaining bit a lot faster.

Vladimir
10-20-2009, 18:25
So no online multiplayer? Or are you accounting for time zone differences.

Krauser
10-22-2009, 03:58
I do not understand the mechanics involved behind such a game (I suppose it would need for each player to put a password to protect their game, and mail to the next player or host the save game file in a place where every player could download it when it was their turn. Unfortunately, due to the secret nature of these turn-based PBEM games, AAR's would be lacking, and probably only public events could be listed (Wars, Wonder construction, etc.)

If you want to talk about strategies, you can just do a regular single player game but take turns making moves. Say you make the game, you can start the first turn. Then the computer goes and you save the game when your turn starts again. You send this save file to the next person in line to play a turn. They play a turn, discuss strategies, etc. and send it to the next person in line. Eventually, you finish the game and each of you cooperatively played the same civilization.


So no online multiplayer? Or are you accounting for time zone differences.

It has online multiplayer but no one wants to wait 30 minutes for their turn to come around again. I mean some turns are pretty fast, but towards the end of the game one player's turn could take 10 minutes just looking at the possibilities and deciding how to move.

Beefy187
10-24-2009, 12:31
You turn on the simultaneous turn option.
That way, all players will take their turns simultaneously and next turn begins when everyone finished it.

While email will grant me more free time, I would suggest playing online till Medieval or something then switch to email as ancient goes very fast.

Beskar
10-24-2009, 20:07
Yeah, I been playing online with Beefy recently.

I suck in the military department, because I am always building and never have an opportunity to have free building time to produce units. (The thing I dislike about Civ4)

Hax
10-24-2009, 21:42
I'd join. Beskar, Beefy, would you like another guy to play with? ^^

Jolt
10-24-2009, 21:47
Yeah, I been playing online with Beefy recently.

I suck in the military department, because I am always building and never have an opportunity to have free building time to produce units. (The thing I dislike about Civ4)

Curiously, I originally suffered exactly from the same thing. Do this. Build one/two buildings then build a unit, always. You'll find out soon enough that you're keeping a large enough amount of units to have your cities well garrisoned.

Beskar
10-24-2009, 21:49
I'd join. Beskar, Beefy, would you like another guy to play with? ^^

I have no problems. Do you have MSN or similar? We usually hook up using that. (Also, we play using Japanese time, which is pretty much Twilight/Morning hours for us Europeans)


Curiously, I originally suffered exactly from the same thing. Do this. Build one/two buildings then build a unit, always. You'll find out soon enough that you're keeping a large enough amount of units to have your cities well garrisoned.

Yeah, I will need to learn how to manage my workers better as well. I originally just stuck them on "auto" and what they keep doing is building things then rebuilding things on-top of them, etc.

Hax
10-24-2009, 22:03
I have no problems. Do you have MSN or similar? We usually hook up using that.usually

Yep yep! It should be on my profile, but I'll pm it anyways.

Jolt
10-24-2009, 22:07
You turn on the simultaneous turn option.
That way, all players will take their turns simultaneously and next turn begins when everyone finished it.

While email will grant me more free time, I would suggest playing online till Medieval or something then switch to email as ancient goes very fast.

This is an awesome idea.

Hax
10-24-2009, 22:10
Yes, I agree. A very good idea.

Ibn-Khaldun
10-24-2009, 23:08
I wish I would have bought that CivIV:Complete when I had the chance. :wall:
I always wanted to play it against human players. ~:(

Beefy187
10-25-2009, 00:25
Last time I saw the price in Australia, BtS was fairly cheep.
Just buy Civ4 and BtS. You won't need anything else.... Maybe Colony or what ever the new one is called.

And Hax. Today would be the last time I can play until in 3 weeks time.

Ituralde
10-29-2009, 08:27
I would be up to it. I agree with TinCows observations though. The initial phase is just a lot of hitting "End Turn". Even if some quite important choices are made during those initial turns.

I would usually play these with my brother during holidays and we would get through one game in about two to three days. That is with simultaneous turns though. We usually play together against the AI though and stop once we've reached that point where the challenge is gone and it's just a matter of conquering everything that remains.

So yeah, count me in!

FactionHeir
10-29-2009, 10:07
Hmm might tive this one a try, not that great at it though.