Saladin?

[Xer0]

Was saladins name in arabic Nur al-din? Becuase I think i just got him. I built a saharan cavalry in Arabia and the year was 1135 I think. He has 6 stars and good vices.

[The Scourge]

I believe it might well have been.Got in a book somewhere only I can't seem to find it at the moment,and no luck on the web so far.
All the sites I've found just refer to him as Saladin.

[blackfire83]

I don't believe that is his Arabic name, but I really am not sure. I know that it says his name in the back of the manual (you did read the manual, right? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ) where they talk about all the different historical campaigns and stuff. Sorry I can't be of more help. I'd look it up if I had the manual with me, but I'm at work right now. Pooey. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

-blackfire83

[Xer0]

In which part of the manual?

[Ulug Beg]

If memory serves me correctly, his Arabic name was Salah al-Din (hence Saladin). What is more, his family were from Takrit in Iraq, the hometown of good old Saddam. The fact that Saddam never mentions this scourge of the Crusaders is because Saladin was also a Kurd

I think Nur al-Din was, historically, one of his relatives. All my uni books are at home. Will check tonight.

I've seen Saladin in the game, but can't remember the name they gave him. He had a huge number of stars

[Xer0]

Saldins arabic name was Salah al-Din Yusuf bin Ayub
but now I know who Nur Al-Din was. He was the one who beated the second crusade and fought against the crusaders before Saladin. It would be more fun with Saladin but atleast I got someone who can be compared to him.

[Pachinko]

Ulug Beg Your right. I found a web for him.

[Pachinko]

I forgot..

Here it is...Saladin (http://www.angelfire.com/realm/shades/demons/biblic/saladin.htm)

[Xer0]

I put him in Egypt and gave him titles and then He got the vices often drunk and when I putted him in Sinai he got the vices educated. Then I sent him with my army that mostly consist of cavalry to Cyprus and he died in battle against the spearmans. Well luckly I saved before he died.

[Jo_Beare]

I got him when I was the English. The Egyptian king died with no heirs and Nur al-Din was the leader of the Egyptian army in Antioch. Since I had once held Antioch for a brief time(one turn) about fifty years earlier, Antioch and and Nur al-Din joined the English. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif I married him to one of my daughters and he changed his name to Sir al-Din. Kind of funny I thought. It was kind of hard to replenish his Bedouin camel unit though.

JoBeare

[Kraxis]

Yeah I have noticed the great Nur al Din several times, he seems to have Skilled Attacker as his Vice.
I have faced him several times and a great efforts to kill him fast... No need to recreate the 2nd Crusade.

[econ21]

If anyone gets the chance, it would be useful to post the stats and date acquired of this historical leader in the "building historical leaders" thread. I'm going to do this with any I encounter in future and hopefully one day, we'll have a nice list of historical leaders to peruse.

I guess being aware of leaders will only matter for gameplay if you can lose out on a leader by not building within a historical window. Anyone know if this is true? As England on early, I always get Sir Tancred, Strongbow, Simon de Montfort, Thomas Becket and Guy of Gisbourne so I am a little relaxed about it - I do make a point of buying the odd assassin towards the end of the 1100s just to be sure of getting Guy, however.

[Xer0]

Dammit I should have wrote down his stats when I got him. Sorry

[insolent1]

Nur al Din is rank 6 & comes with the vice expert attacker, his piety & acumen are all around 6. Saladin appears later in the game around very late 1200's or early 1300's I think, i've only played one egyptian campaign & I took the lesser victory in 1262

[dancho]

Quote[/b] (Jo_Beare @ Nov. 13 2002,20:19)]I got him when I was the English. The Egyptian king died with no heirs and Nur al-Din was the leader of the Egyptian army in Antioch. Since I had once held Antioch for a brief time(one turn) about fifty years earlier, Antioch and and Nur al-Din joined the English. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif I married him to one of my daughters and he changed his name to Sir al-Din. Kind of funny I thought. It was kind of hard to replenish his Bedouin camel unit though.

JoBeare
Not as weird as it sounds. Richard Lionheart actually planned to have Saladin marry his sister and ally with the English king. But she nixed the deal...

[solypsist]

moved to history forum, er...whatever it's being called now. Monastary, I think.

[Muneyoshi]

Quote[/b] (blackfire83 @ Nov. 13 2002,02:56)]I don't believe that is his Arabic name, but I really am not sure. I know that it says his name in the back of the manual (you did read the manual, right? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ) where they talk about all the different historical campaigns and stuff. Sorry I can't be of more help. I'd look it up if I had the manual with me, but I'm at work right now. Pooey. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

-blackfire83
Its in the what? Manual...what the hell is that? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/tongue.gif

[Mr Frost]

Though I have seen a few Baybers I have yet to encounter THE Baybers {yes , I know I probebly misspelled it} .

Saladin was a truely great leader {he was also very chivalrous , everything a christian knight was supposed to be but never really was} but was merely good as a general {I would say 5 or 6 stars perhaps ...} .
Baybers was the Arabic answer to the likes of Richard and Baldwin . In Arabic society , he is the great hero {Saladin is respected , but Baybers is held in awe} .

Where is this great warmaster ?

And where are my slate grey silk socks now that I think of it ?

[Zauba'a]

OK, sorry to dig this up from the grave, but I felt I should respond to this seeing as I have the information available.

Nur ad-Din was Saladin's sovreign when he was younger. He was the one who ordered Saladin to accompany his uncle Shirkuh to see his first battle against the Christians. Nur ad-Din was an OK guy but he kind of tried to keep Saladin from gaining too much power (even though pretty much everyone called Saladin the king when he was in his twenties).

[ICantSpellDawg]

yea - watch Terry Jones' (of Monty Python) history of the crusades. Pretty well done - i believe that is where some of these people got their info

[PFJ_bejazuz]

for some reason his name always reminds me of vegetarians

[Shahed]

From the Diary of Saladin

1261 I have always resented the way the other sultans and amirs of my time have become too caught up in glory, pride and wealth to realize where the true forgiveness of the Almighty falls. Upon those, who in turn forgive and are merciful to innocents, not those who kill without pity. Thus, have I tried with every fiber of my being to help and forgive those in need, and to relate that to my followers, for instance;

Once as I was leading my faithful fighters against the Franj, a scout approached with a distraught sobbing woman behind him. The scout explained that she came from the Franj camp, and wanted to see me, the master. I asked my interpreter to question her. She stopped wailing long enough to reply,"Yesterday, some Muslim thieves entered my tent, and stole my little child. I lamented all night, and our leaders told me that the Muslim leader was merciful, and they would allow me to go to him and ask him for the return of my daughter. Thus, have I approached you, and I put all of my faith in you." I sent one of my men to the slave market, and in less than an hour he returned with the child on his shoulders. The woman threw herself in the sand, and smeared it one her face. Everyone present shed tears of happiness at the sight of such a happy reunion. The woman and her daughter were escorted back to the Franj camp.

It gladdened my heart to help such a stricken soul, and to reunite her with her obviously beloved offspring. So many of the high ranking about me have discarded mercy as a weakness. In this small tale I have shown that even a king must always be merciful, and I hope in the name of the Almighty that any of my men would have done the same were he in my place.

[Leet Eriksson]

Saladins real name is Yusuf Bin Ayoob,his title is Saladin(much like Lionheart was richards title).

also nice story Sinan http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Ithaskar Fëarindel]

"Lionheart" wasn't a title, but a nickname. Like "Edward The Confessor", "John The Pretender" etc. to name some of the more famous ones. Richard's title was of course King.

[Leet Eriksson]

ahh well whatever,it was much like a nick name.