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CountArach
10-22-2009, 08:19
Alright, I suppose this is best put back here given that some may (apparently) be offended by its content.
What I have a concern with is the apparent suggestion that the word "Damn" is considered swearing. It is about the most low-level profanity I can think of, and yet there is an insistence on removing it from all the posts. I would just like to hear the justification for it, because honestly I just don't see the point and the word "Darn" just doesn't have the same effect.
So yes... could someone explain what the official position is on "Damn", and why?
pevergreen
10-22-2009, 08:45
Where?
Gameroom, thats now not accepted, as per the new rules. I believe hell is not either.
CountArach
10-22-2009, 10:08
Where?
Gameroom, thats now not accepted, as per the new rules. I believe hell is not either.
Gameroom, yeah. Though I think the same may have happened in the Backroom at some point.
pevergreen
10-22-2009, 10:12
As of 25/7/09
The Gameroom mods have recently decided to, in order to help foster the spirit of friendly play, adopt a strict anti-swearing policy. We are stopping short of saying that it's zero-tolerance, but the policy can be summed up in one word: don't.
Along with the major curse words, we also frown upon the minor ones that may slip by in some of the other sections of the .Org. In addition, certain words that are acceptable in the US but are regarded as curses in other areas such as the UK are also not allowed, and vice versa.
If you feel that alternatives such as "heck" and "darn" don't cut it, then feel free to replace the entire word (emphasis on entire) with asterisks, other colorful symbols such as *#%!, or the ever-popular :daisy: smiley.
Thank you for your cooperation, and if you have any questions, don't hesitate to contact one of us.
GeneralHankerchief
10-22-2009, 17:33
Not every word has the same level of intensity in every country. Take "damn", for instance, the word you cited. I agree that it's rather low-level as compared to some of the others out there (and I do share your feelings about "darn" having little effect). However, I am only familiar with its intensity in the USA. When we were originally mapping this policy out, Sigurd informed us that "damn" was one of the strongest profanities in Norway.
After having a back-and-forth conversation about what nationalities were better to cater to in terms of language editing, we decided to adopt the current policy as an all-inclusive way around this problem. It may be annoying to someone who doesn't view it as a profanity, but there may be other people who view it as an equivalent to our "F***" or something similar.
I heard democracy was a strong profanity in China. I think we should ban that too.
(I am not kidding, the Chinese government and Chinese Google filters it.)
Vladimir
10-22-2009, 18:18
Wanker.
"Damn" and "crap" are not really even considered swearing among most people as I've experienced throughout life.
"Hell" isn't swearing at all, calling it as such is utterly ridiculous.
johnhughthom
10-22-2009, 20:09
Some people may think your username is swearing. :smartass2:
Craps is a game of dice. :book2:
Vladimir
10-22-2009, 20:36
The F word is a TV show.
When I was a moderator, I decided to go for a zero-tolerance type policy much like the gameroom is doing. It doesn't mean that people using soft swearwords necessarily get warning points or even warnings - a PM or a moderator edit might be appropriate in some cases. With potentially intense and competitive inter-personal exchanges like the gameroom, I can see the logic in the policy as way of helping to keep things cool.
One reason for a zero-tolerance stance is precisely the difficulty of drawing a line and how that line will vary by culture. Better to kill them all and let God sort them out, sort of thing.
As a non-moderator, I know really appreciate the Org's lack of swearing. I think it does help maintain a respectful and friendly atmosphere. I have no problem with swearing in movies or swearing in real life with friends, but when it comes to reading cold hard print written by impersonal strangers over the internet, swearing is a potential minefield.
Louis VI the Fat
10-22-2009, 23:41
Swearing, swearing...
It is most often not the words themselves that matter. It is not even blanketing words out or not, partly or wholly, that matters. What matters is use and intent, and perceived intent.
Case in point:
Wanker
Oh yeah? Well, you're a lovely person who likes pett ing his father's tiny kitten and giv ing his mother gifts in the month of May, specifically on the second Sunday thereof. And while I'm talking about your mom, she's a kind, considerate individual who's help ed so many people it's a wonder she doesn't explode from ingesting all of their cookies, which they bought her in thanks.
Hooahguy
10-22-2009, 23:42
what if the curse word is in a name of something? like, for instance, there is a Metallica live album called "Live :daisy: : binge and purge."
johnhughthom
10-23-2009, 00:04
Thats a bit like saying all the words to "So what?" are OK to use as they are written on an album sleeve...
Hooahguy
10-23-2009, 00:06
Thats a bit like saying all the words to "So what?" are OK to use as they are written on an album sleeve...
true, didnt think about that.
I think Im the one who said that word. I would like to apologize if it is a swear word.
CountArach
10-23-2009, 00:24
Not every word has the same level of intensity in every country. Take "damn", for instance, the word you cited. I agree that it's rather low-level as compared to some of the others out there (and I do share your feelings about "darn" having little effect). However, I am only familiar with its intensity in the USA. When we were originally mapping this policy out, Sigurd informed us that "damn" was one of the strongest profanities in Norway.
After having a back-and-forth conversation about what nationalities were better to cater to in terms of language editing, we decided to adopt the current policy as an all-inclusive way around this problem. It may be annoying to someone who doesn't view it as a profanity, but there may be other people who view it as an equivalent to our "F***" or something similar.
I still think its a little ridiculous, but ah well, I can at least see the rationalisation for it now.
"Damn" and "crap" are not really even considered swearing among most people as I've experienced throughout life.
"Hell" isn't swearing at all, calling it as such is utterly ridiculous.
That's been my experience as well, and my yardstick is that I say them in front of my mother.
On a more serious note, there is two big points.
1) I support the ban on the more serious "swear words" in the sense that it stops people using them. On a personal level, I don't mind swear words when they are actually used correctly, but overusaged just says more about their character then anything.
2) I think GeneralHankerchief handles it very well. He is very relaxed and doesn't do infractions on the really minor things. He deserves a gold-star as he could handle it in a way where it upsets people, but if anything, people usually facepalm and scream "Silly me!" and take it light hearted.
Strike For The South
10-23-2009, 03:46
That's been my experience as well, and my yardstick is that I say them in front of my mother.
Not a good yardstick for me.
Tratorix
10-23-2009, 04:57
Not a good yardstick for me.
Zing. :laugh4:
Beefy187
10-23-2009, 05:52
In Japanese, Kuso which means S*** is the most aggressive word. Baka (Idiot) is next up. As for F words, B words and so on... we just use English because we don't have a word for it.
In childrens cartoons, they say "Baka" all the time. Is it really that bad?
Beefy187
10-23-2009, 07:10
In childrens cartoons, they say "Baka" all the time. Is it really that bad?
Not at all.. Except all the other "swearing" is so innocent that Baka comes on the top.
Banquo's Ghost
10-23-2009, 07:32
Swearing, swearing...
It is most often not the words themselves that matter. It is not even blanketing words out or not, partly or wholly, that matters. What matters is use and intent, and perceived intent.
:bow:
Since the Backroom is mentioned, Louis has explained the policy for "harmless" swearing very well. I would be surprised if we had ever censored "damn" but we may well have done based on intent, context and overall temperature of the forum at the time.
A strict policy is applied in the Backroom because of the strong emotions often expressed during discussions. Whilst in one thread the use of damn might be innocuous, in another it will be the spark that sets off a flame-war and consequent infractions.
I wonder from time to time whether we are too strict at the Org, but a visit to almost any other forum convinces me that the pleasant atmosphere is always preferable. As can be demonstrated perfectly by this thread, some members will push the boundaries at any opportunity. We therefore keep the boundaries tight and secure so that most transgression are minor and result in an edit rather than a ban-stick.
It's also rather hard to be respectful when one is swearing.
Tribesman
10-23-2009, 08:09
Bollox
Louis VI the Fat
10-23-2009, 12:09
Gah! Nobody has quoted my post yet. There is a surprise hidden in there. Quote it to find out...:book:
CountArach
10-23-2009, 12:12
Gah! Nobody has quoted my post yet. There is a surprise hidden in there. Quote it to find out...:book:
:laugh4:
johnhughthom
10-23-2009, 12:17
Oh yeah? Well, you're a lovely person who likes pett ing his father's tiny kitten and giv ing his mother gifts in the month of May, specifically on the second Sunday thereof. And while I'm talking about your mom, she's a kind, considerate individual who's help ed so many people it's a wonder she doesn't explode from ingesting all of their cookies, which they bought her in thanks.
Aww.
johnhughthom
10-23-2009, 12:20
Oh yeah? Well, you're a lovely person who likes petting his father's tiny kitten and giving his mother gifts in the month of May, specifically on the second Sunday thereof. And while I'm talking about your mom, she's a kind, considerateindividual who's helped so many people it's a wonder she doesn't explode from ingesting all of their cookies, which they bought her in thanks.
How nice.
Pannonian
10-23-2009, 12:25
Gah! Nobody has quoted my post yet. There is a surprise hidden in there. Quote it to find out...:book:
The censor tag? We didn't want to draw the mods' attention to a warning-worthy post.
Oh yeah? Well, you're a lovely person who likes pett ing his father's tiny kitten and giv ing his mother gifts in the month of May, specifically on the second Sunday thereof. And while I'm talking about your mom, she's a kind, considerate individual who's help ed so many people it's a wonder she doesn't explode from ingesting all of their cookies, which they bought her in thanks.
:bow:
I would be surprised if we had ever censored "damn" but we may well have done based on intent, context and overall temperature of the forum at the time.
Really BG? That is funny, because I remember getting in trouble for using that one innocently on a number of occasions.
SURPRISE!!
pevergreen
10-26-2009, 23:36
I think we should make pever a swear word.
Then Vuk would have to change everything or be banned. :grin2:
I think we should make pever a swear word.
Then Vuk would have to change everything or be banned. :grin2:
Then you would be too though! lol, or at least have to change your name. :P
Really BG? That is funny, because I remember getting in trouble for using that one innocently on a number of occasions.
SURPRISE!!
Nice recall. You're right. You did get warned for using 'damn' three years ago.
Nice recall. You're right. You did get warned for using 'damn' three years ago.
Hard to forget when I talked to other people who used the same language a lot more and didn't get warnings. Things like that is how I developed such great love for BG. :yes:
Hard to forget when I talked to other people who used the same language a lot more and didn't get warnings. Things like that are why I developed such great love for BG. :yes:
:P Sorry, forgot to pluralized it! :P No way to edit your drrned posts in this part of the forum. :P
I like the fact that the backroom is somewhat censored and controlled, because it is an area of great discussion. Conflicts arise, and the cursing would just make it worse.
Hard to forget when I talked to other people who used the same language a lot more and didn't get warnings. Things like that is how I developed such great love for BG. :yes:
I am a dataminer at work and I like a challenge when I see one.
I have to correct Monk in his claim that you were warned for using "damn" in a post by BG. You did however capitalise the word in a post about three years ago, but the warning was for a different word in that same post. A word involving a hat and a backside. :beam: A word which this particular moderator had warned you for before and resulted in you getting a 2 pointer for this one.
Here is the post in question:
Look whos talking! Funny, you haven't said a DAMN (o, there i go again) thing about my arguement ***hat!
I am a dataminer at work and I like a challenge when I see one.
I have to correct Monk in his claim that you were warned for using "damn" in a post by BG. You did however capitalise the word in a post about three years ago, but the warning was for a different word in that same post. A word involving a hat and a backside. :beam: A word which this particular moderator had warned you for before and resulted in you getting a 2 pointer for this one.
Here is the post in question:
Maybe you should look a little harder, because I have too been warned for saying damn. I am not talking about that post.
Ser Clegane
10-29-2009, 15:22
I suppose you have something more tangible to substantiate your allegation?
Quite frankly, I did not find this warning either - of course I cannot entirely rule out that I overlooked something, but considering some past claims from your side I remain somewhat sceptical.
The alleged warning eluded me as well.
The only one I found in relation to you, Vuk, and the word 'damn' was the one mentioned by Sigurd - but I guess I didn't read the explanation carefully and there was more to the post than I noticed.
Maybe you should look a little harder, because I have too been warned for saying damn. I am not talking about that post.
When you receive a warning or infraction you will have a notification PM of the incident in question.
Didn't find it either, Vuk :shrug:
you haven't said a DAMN (o, there i go again)
Why would I say "There I go again" if I did not already get in trouble for saying it?
As far as PMs go, I have ran out of space so many times, I have had to delete all my PMs but the most recent ones.
Why would I say "There I go again" if I did not already get in trouble for saying it?
As far as PMs go, I have ran out of space so many times, I have had to delete all my PMs but the most recent ones.
Sorry, but several moderators have been searching the database. None of your accounts received such a warning/alert/infraction.
I don't get what you're trying to achieve here :inquisitive:
Why would I say "There I go again" if I did not already get in trouble for saying it?
As far as PMs go, I have ran out of space so many times, I have had to delete all my PMs but the most recent ones.
If keeping track of every warning and infraction is of importance to you, as it obviously is, then please keep the "receipts" in future.
If keeping track of every warning and infraction is of importance to you, as it obviously is, then please keep the "receipts" in future.
He doesn't need to keep them in an inbox, he remembers each and every word of each and every one of them and stores the information in a memory that is superior to any existing software database :rolleyes:
Ser Clegane
10-29-2009, 16:44
Why would I say "There I go again" if I did not already get in trouble for saying it?
As far as PMs go, I have ran out of space so many times, I have had to delete all my PMs but the most recent ones.
This is getting somewhat tiresome now.
I have no idea why you said "there I go again" - perhaps somebody in the thread already called you on your very hostile posting style in that particular thread.
I can say with certainty that you did not receive a warning for saying "damn" before the warning that has been mentioned above.
I can also say with certainty that Banquo's Ghost joined the Backroom staff ~6 weeks after you received the warning above, making it quite impossible for him to have issued a warning to you before the quoted case.
I would like to point out that this is not the first time that you make such accusations without being able to back anything up (a certain other Watchtower thread comes to mind).
:no:
This is getting somewhat tiresome now.
I have no idea why you said "there I go again" - perhaps somebody in the thread already called you on your very hostile posting style in that particular thread.
I can say with certainty that you did not receive a warning for saying "damn" before the warning that has been mentioned above.
I can also say with certainty that Banquo's Ghost joined the Backroom staff ~6 weeks after you received the warning above, making it quite impossible for him to have issued a warning to you before the quoted case.
I would like to point out that this is not the first time that you make such accusations without being able to back anything up (a certain other Watchtower thread comes to mind).
:no:
It was not me, but one of the moderators who quoted me with that message (without my permission I may add). I never said that was the one I was talking about. I don't even remember where that came from. I do however being pissed off for receiving a BS warning for saying damn.
And pardon me for not keeping my inbox so full of messages that I cannot send any PMs.
Ser Clegane
10-29-2009, 17:11
It was not me, but one of the moderators who quoted me with that message (without my permission I may add). I never said that was the one I was talking about.
Yet you jumped on it and eagerly used it to support your allegation.
BTW, why should you need to give your permission when a statement you publicly made on this forum is quoted? Especially when you make a public stink about having been warned?
I do however being pissed off
I am sure you remember that - seems to be the case quite often. Problem is that that your memory for the actual trigger usually does not seem to be very reliable.
EDIT: Just FYI - you can save/archive your PMs before you delete them to clear up your PM box.
Yet you jumped on it and eagerly used it to support your allegation.
BTW, why should you need to give your permission when a statement you publicly made on this forum is quoted? Especially when you make a public stink about having been warned?
I am sure you remember that - seems to be the case quite often. Problem is that that your memory for the actual trigger usually does not seem to be very reliable.
EDIT: Just FYI - you can save/archive your PMs before you delete them to clear up your PM box.
You don't like me very much, do you Ser Clegane? :P
Ser Clegane
10-29-2009, 17:24
You don't like me very much, do you Ser Clegane? :P
Let's just say, when baseless accusations are made just to get some attention or to express a personal grudge, I like to clear things up a little.
GeneralHankerchief automatically edits the word "Damn" into "Darn" due to Sigurd mentioning that "Damn" is actually quite offensive in Norway(?).
However, other than that, I have found Banquo's Ghost to be a very good moderator. He doesn't post much (which is a shame, as there is a lot he could share, from what I have where he has posted), but he does have an eagle eye and an attention to detail, and thus quick on the mark.
Louis VI the Fat
10-29-2009, 18:34
:soapbox:
In 2001 Andres gave me warning points for using the word 'damn'!!
This was a clear revenge of his for me beating him in Capo II earlier that year.
As a non-native speaker, Andres obviously doesn't understand the many variations of the word damn.
:soapbox:
Hello Moros.
I hear there is a place called Damme in Belgium. The medieval port of Bruges, until the dam broke. Apparantly, it still has a beautiful Notre-Dame church. Should I visit it someday?
Cher Louis,
You are using swear words three times. This is against forum rules. You receive an infraction for all three instances.
I am very disappointed that you of all people should've used this sort of language. :no:
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infractions:
'Damme' = 2 points
'dam' = 2 points
'Dame' = 2 points
Being a superior mafia player = 3 points
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GeneralHankerchief automatically edits the word "Damn" into "Darn" due to Sigurd mentioning that "Damn" is actually quite offensive in Norway(?).
It's not in the vocabulary; so I don't understand that conclusion. In comparison, the 's word' is in fact a commonly used word and is not considered swearing.
:soapbox:
In 2001 Andres gave me warning points for using the word 'damn'!!
This was a clear revenge of his for me beating him in Capo II earlier that year.
As a non-native speaker, Andres obviously doesn't understand the many variations of the word damn.
:soapbox:
:thumbsdown:
That is clearly a lie :no:
I never warned you for being a superior mafia player :smash:
I love you, Louis :laugh4:
pevergreen
10-29-2009, 23:28
Quiet Andres...your words carry far on these winds...far to the south...
It's not in the vocabulary; so I don't understand that conclusion. In comparison, the 's word' is in fact a commonly used word and is not considered swearing.
How would you translate: "Forbanna faen i Helvete" ?
pevergreen
10-30-2009, 04:46
"For banning fun, I having?"
:grin2:
Meneldil
10-30-2009, 09:19
How would you translate: "Forbanna faen i Helvete" ?
Yeah, well that's nice and dandy, but what you find offensive is apparently the translation of the word "damn", not "damn" itself.
I don't see how that's relevant to a majorly english-speaking forum. People are using damn in english, and in english, it's probably the less offensive swearing one could think of.
Why should we care about how the translation of "damn" in norwegian, german, spanish, french or russian is perceived?
If people start using "forbanna faen i helvete", yes, then you can give them a warning because it's apparently a quite offensive swearing. But "damn" is not.
Yeah, well that's nice and dandy, but what you find offensive is apparently the translation of the word "damn", not "damn" itself.
If I were to take offence to every word which are literally swearing in Norwegian but just words in English or any of the other languages spoken on this forum - I would have been in trouble.
The word "Damn" is a religious expletive in English and its translation to many of the languages on this board is also a religious expletive, all though significantly stronger in my language.
Viking might not think so, but then he is a young bloke which might think it is ok to swear around his grandmother or children in general. I don't know.
Besides, it is not you who decides what goes and what does not. It is the Moderators responsibility to keep things in the spirit that TosaInu has set. Due to the nature of this board with many nationalities, cultures and world views - we have in the gameroom set a standard.
If you don't like it - there are many other places on this board where you can express your need to use religious expletives and mild profanity. In the gameroom, at least, it is frowned upon.
InsaneApache
10-30-2009, 11:28
I got a detention for using the word 'damn' in an English essay back in school. It was pointed out that it is a profanity and blasphemous. Mind you that was back in 1971. :embarassed:
I took my punishment like a boy. (I was only 11 :wink:) It wasn't too bad as for my dentention we all got to share an hour with Miss Boulanger, our 21 year old French mistress with legs up to her neck. Happy days!
Louis VI the Fat
10-30-2009, 11:50
If I were to take offence to every word which are literally swearing in Norwegian but just words in English or any of the other languages spoken on this forum - I would have been in trouble.
The word "Damn" is a religious expletive in English and its translation to many of the languages on this board is also a religious expletive, all though significantly stronger in my language.
Viking might not think so, but then he is a young bloke which might think it is ok to swear around his grandmother or children in general. I don't know.
Besides, it is not you who decides what goes and what does not. It is the Moderators responsibility to keep things in the spirit that TosaInu has set. Due to the nature of this board with many nationalities, cultures and world views - we have in the gameroom set a standard.
If you don't like it - there are many other places on this board where you can express your need to use religious expletives and mild profanity. In the gameroom, at least, it is frowned upon.Is it .org policy to be tougher on religious expletives than on profane expletives?
Do the other moderators agree with this? I mean, I am not going to be discriminated against, be a member of a board that protects religious sensitivities more than my sensitivities.
Is it .org policy to be tougher on religious expletives than on profane expletives?
No.
The moderators are however human and unpaid. If you think they have overlooked something, feel free to use the report button which is found on every post.
I think it's good to keep in mind that the somehow strict policy is for the Gameroom.
Playing games is fun and even more if you're involved and really going for it. But people sometimes lose control when playing games. It happens to everybody and for several reasons, usually because one is losing or because one thinks his team members are making a big mistake.
Expletives, no matter how mild in common usage, have the potential to make posts sound more aggressive. If one responds in kind, threads become inflammatory rapidly.
That's probably why my colleagues at the Gameroom decided to have a zero-tolerance policy on "strong language".
The Gameroom is an environment where one can have lots of fun, but because of its' nature, threads can go ugly very quick.
With that in mind, the zero tolerance in the Gameroom is perfectly understandable.
Just like the Gameroom, the BR, because of the nature of its' topics, also has the potential to have threads going from interesting to really ugly in no time and sometimes it just takes nothing more than one post which could be perceived as aggressive.
Also, don't forget that when you post on an internet forum, there's no body language and it's impossible for a moderator to know if you're joking, serious or deliberately trying to derail a thread in a flame war when you post something that sounds a bit aggressive or "stronger than usual".
As a member, when writing on an internetforum, you have all the time to think about your post, write it, review it, change it and then finally decide to post or not to post it.
The only thing we ask is that you do exactly that before posting: take your time and make sure the post says what you want to say without having the potential to offend or to make a thread going "downhill". Don't get personal. Don't post in an "I know it all" condescending or patronising way. And don't post aggressive. Adding a word like "damn" (which, as a word, in itself may not be so bad on its' own), can make a post just that extra bit aggressive which can be enough to ruin a thread.
I know it's not exact science, but being a bit careful when you post, makes the lifes of your moderators, who have to read all your posts and have to take into account all this stuff while doing so, easier.
So please, respect etiquette at all times. I know that probably means that you'll have to be more civilised, friendly and polite than you ever are in RL, but so be it. This is an internetforum where we communicate with written text and written text alone, this is not real life.
You don't like me very much, do you Ser Clegane? :P
That's a really unfair statement, Vuk.
How would you translate: "Forbanna faen i Helvete" ?
If you start with swear words in language A, you should end up with swear words in language B, IMO. If 'damn' is not considered a swear word in English, I probably wouldn't use it when translating your sentence; since the translated sentence would be weaker than the original one.
While the first of your words might indeed be translated into 'damn', it would loose its true meaning otherwise used in a religous context. It is though even in Norwegian among the weaker swear words, as far as I know the word.
Hosakawa Tito
10-30-2009, 14:47
I got a detention for using the word 'damn' in an English essay back in school. It was pointed out that it is a profanity and blasphemous. Mind you that was back in 1971. :embarassed:
I took my punishment like a boy. (I was only 11 :wink:) It wasn't too bad as for my dentention we all got to share an hour with Miss Boulanger, our 21 year old French mistress with legs up to her neck. Happy days!
My grandma used to wash my mouth out with soap for saying damn or Jebus Christ. All y'all are getting off easy. Lava soap with pumice was the worst.
Veho Nex
10-30-2009, 15:16
Wanker.
I don't know about you guys but I am incredibly offended by this mans words! I demand action and retribution!:smash:
I don't know about you guys but I am incredibly offended by this mans words! I demand action and retribution!:smash:
*** Reports Veho Nex for quoting explicit material ***
Not so funny now, eh, Mister Comedian?! :smash:
I don't know about you guys but I am incredibly offended by this mans words! I demand action and retribution!:smash:
I actually reported it, but nothing was done. Curse those moderators. :smash: :clown:
That's a really unfair statement, Vuk.
You don't like me, do you Andres? :(
Sasaki Kojiro
10-31-2009, 06:09
The Gameroom is an environment where one can have lots of fun, but because of its' nature, threads can go ugly very quick.
With that in mind, the zero tolerance in the Gameroom is perfectly understandable.
Well, some of the confusion comes from the fact that I very rarely edited out swearing in the gameroom. I don't think there were more arguments back then though. Telling people to cool it stifles the arguing. Generally the game mod can handle that.
I noticed though that the general forum members idea of what kind of swearing is acceptable is about the same as the current moderator crew, just a bit more lax. The only words there's a real difference on are the ones being talked about here. And **** (as in "take a ****").
Well, some of the confusion comes from the fact that I very rarely edited out swearing in the gameroom. I don't think there were more arguments back then though. Telling people to cool it stifles the arguing. Generally the game mod can handle that.
I noticed though that the general forum members idea of what kind of swearing is acceptable is about the same as the current moderator crew, just a bit more lax. The only words there's a real difference on are the ones being talked about here. And **** (as in "take a ****").
Well, you could always use "Go and take a dump." or "I really don't give a smelly backside" or "this tastes' like Sasaki's cooking".
Tons of alternatives which aren't using certain words.
Sasaki Kojiro
10-31-2009, 19:08
Well, you could always use "Go and take a dump." or "I really don't give a smelly backside" or "this tastes' like Sasaki's cooking".
Tons of alternatives which aren't using certain words.
Sure, and that's the reason we have the rules on swearing and why almost everyone supports them to some extent. It's nice to not read offensive things, and the moderator crew is looking out for the minority who are more sensitive to words like hell and damn.
I do feel like they are overjustifying it in response to some of the criticism lately though. With the rules being eased up, there would be more "lite" swearing, it's not like the org would become a cesspool and war would break out in the gameroom.
Meneldil
11-01-2009, 00:34
The word "Damn" is a religious expletive in English and its translation to many of the languages on this board is also a religious expletive, all though significantly stronger in my language.
Viking might not think so, but then he is a young bloke which might think it is ok to swear around his grandmother or children in general. I don't know.
Are you going to ban the use of the word "Satan" because Vittu Satana Perkele is quite offensive in finnish? Because that's exactly what you're doing here with damn.
I still don't see how one word is used in a language could be used as a reason to ban said word in english. Last I know we speak english here
I perfectly understand that my opinion doesn't matter, as I'm not a moderator, but I'm still allowed to express it, thank you.
a completely inoffensive name
11-02-2009, 08:25
I agree with the side with the argument which will result in less infraction points for me if such argument is turned into policy and implemented.
Strike For The South
11-03-2009, 04:05
Oh dear how is this thread still alive?
Profanity is the crutch of the conversational cripple.
-David Keuck
Profanity is the attempt of a small mind to utter something profound.
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